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| 03-10-10 10:14am - 5401 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Pros VS Joes Ok Really this is Pro's VS Amateurs. Why Is it the reviews are always low on Amateurs, yet ppl keep buying in on the sites. Pro's get higher ratings most of the time, unless its off center niche. Seems straight Amateurs sex get low ratings . I have only signed up once in the years for a Amateurs, and I found it raw and boring. Id probably find more of a turn on at the zoo with to primates going at it. It doesn't seem like fantasy, it seems like sex. Almost like a documentary to Amateurs. Like something from the discovery channel : Here we are in the jungle, where the white bellied pecker upper, is about to nibble on what appear to be the soft inner thigh of the rare but often sot after White bild, horny sucker. Lets take a look at this rare mating ritual. Ok thats how Amateurs feel to me, What do you think ? Toad. Since 2007 | |
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| 03-10-10 10:51am - 5401 days | #2 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I don't have much of an opinion, because I'm much more into softcore pix than hardcore vids. So I don't have a lot of experience with hardcore vids compared to most of the PU members. I would guess, based on little real knowledge, that people get bored with the same old pro vids, so they try the amateur sites hoping for a fresh experience, and then get disappointed by what they find: the pros do it better, because there's more experience, better production values, etc. It does take more than a hand-held video camera to make a decent porn video. I went to the local zoo many years ago, and watched 2 sea lions going at it. They made a lot of noise, but there was very little actual movement that I could see. But the mating session lasted for over 30 minutes, so I guess the sea lions were enjoying themselves, even if I couldn't get very excited about what they were doing. Edited on Mar 10, 2010, 10:55am | |
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| 03-10-10 11:14am - 5401 days | #3 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
I'm from the opposite camp on this one. I really like it when, as you say, it seems like sex. To me, most of the professional stuff looks overly scripted and fake. Am I in the minority? Judging from the popularity of sites like my seriously despised Brazzer's, I'm sure I am, but I've never been one to walk a mainstream line. I think that site is the epitome of bad sites but still a good representation of what most people seem to be attracted to - mass produced, repetitive content with make-up encrusted women (with the oft-mentioned fake tits). Amateurs, on the other hand, are... for lack of a better phrase... just more real to me. I guess my idea of a fantasy isn't a well-known face, but rather watching a girl or couple who look like they could live down the street from me. You're right - amateur sites aren't popular and I lose out because of it. It's why I've been here three years and sitting at 39 points. There just aren't enough sites out there for me to review. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 03-10-10 12:19pm - 5401 days | #4 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
I think that the reason amateur sites score low is because they just don't have the overall quality that makes up most of the score for a review. For whatever reason, most amateur sites post small sized pictures, have poor lighting (amateur), and don't have good video quality (one angle or the shakey camera going on). Amateurs can make up the difference by regularly blogging and interacting with members on live cams but this isn't the reason most people join porn sites and it doesn't score many review points. Also, most amateur sites tend to be single model sites which tend not to score real well either unless they have a number of guest models going in and out or are sponsored and run by a high end production company (Club Sandy for example). It also takes a lot of time and effort to run a good website though technology is helping out on that one. You could do a really good amateur site in terms of quality but it's hard to do or at least hard for most people to do well it seems. I've only joined a few amateur sites in the last few years and I've never been overly impressed. It's good if you want to see real people having real sex or want to interact with the people you see. For me, I'd rather have decent camera work, respectable vid and pic sizes and an assortment of hotties to fuel my imaginary lusts rather than seeing what my neighbors might be doing with their camcorder. | |
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| 03-10-10 05:36pm - 5400 days | #5 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I think Witty is right on the money about all the reasons why most amateur sites score so low compared to the pros. I'd only add that most amateur sites are of a single model who does stuff mostly with herself. You are lucky if she does anything with her only boyfriend or maybe a girlfriend or two. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 03-10-10 06:04pm - 5400 days | #6 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
There's a certain charm to watching amateurs go at it - but it's rarely a turn-on. Hot amateur babes with pro guys that can make the scene good - yeah, that's hot - but the other way around - man, I've seen a couple of scenes where hot pro babes fucked amateur guys - and they were grueling - the girl spending 15 minutes trying to get a semblance of a hard-on from the limp-dick out-of-shape guys - not sexy!! And I am on record of stating that as part of my Beautification of the World campaign, I would NEVER knowingly allow myself to be filmed having sex - so I'm not saying "those guys suck but I'm cool". | |
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| 03-10-10 09:24pm - 5400 days | #7 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Professional stuff with professional actors can be well done but ho-hum after a while--the same beautiful people doing the same moves with machine like precision isn't that exciting. Amateur girls can be hit or miss; hot and inexperienced but open minded, or hot, inexperienced, and just not that into the whole porn thing, or any combination of these things. Pro girls can be good but again predictable and over exposed if they are really popular and you cannot realistically expect any surprises from them. Guys are a whole other ballgame; the amateurs in general can really suck in terms of performance, douchebaggeyness, and just plain being out of shape, while the pros are reliable but can also can be overly aggressive and abusive and seem to get away with it because they're pros. And then there's Ron Jeremy... "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 03-10-10 09:30pm - 5400 days | #8 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Yes, those scenes can really suck for us as the audience and the poor girl as the performer. You wonder if she's doing a favor for somebody (besides her beer-gutted, limp-noodled costar). It's a hard job, I guess somebody has to do it! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 03-10-10 11:05pm - 5400 days | #9 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
It's the same as with any other thing. Amateur musicians don't get paid as much as professionals, and their "chops" aren't usually as good. So yeah, they rate lower. And getting back to porno, as WG pointed out, the production values of amateur sites suck (well, I'm paraphrasing). But some folks like to see "real" people doin' it, so there it is. One thing that I haven't seen lately is a pro site doing faux-amateur content. Maybe Matrix Nudes still does, but Danni doesn't I don't think. Anyway, I'm glad that crap has been on the wane. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 03-11-10 02:17pm - 5400 days | #10 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Raging Buddhist wrote: "Amateurs, on the other hand, are... for lack of a better phrase... just more real to me. I guess my idea of a fantasy isn't a well-known face, but rather watching a girl or couple who look like they could live down the street from me." You are so right on that one, RB, that's my fantasy too. But sites like that are almost impossible to find. I don't like it but I can put up with smaller pictures and movies that aren't quite professional but what gets me every time when it comes to the real amateur sites is that, a) many of the models keep their faces hidden or have them blurred. I understand the reason behind this but I like to see the whole person, and b) when the face isn't hidden there's usually only one or two pictures. I have yet to see a set. Unless they are in the paying members section. I have yet to spend any money on sites like that because they are so poorly laid out and, well, amateurish! :-) | |
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| 03-11-10 02:20pm - 5400 days | #11 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
This is where I get confused, Pat. The moment an amateur decides to build herself a site doesn't that mean she is now a pro? To me an amateur site is one where various people like to upload pictures and videos of themselves or their partners. | |
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| 03-11-10 04:28pm - 5399 days | #12 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Well my definition would be, if it is your main source of income you are a pro. If it is just a hobby, you are still an amateur, even if it does earn you a little money. I prefer to see fresh faces, so I like amateur content,even if it is not of the best quality. Sure I like to see return visit material of models, but I am not really that interested in the ubiquitous big name pros. Cap'n. :0/ Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 03-11-10 06:00pm - 5399 days | #13 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
It cracked me up when I was a member of Kate's Playground, one of the most successful of the early solo-girl sites - even after the site had been operating for several years and Kate clearly knew what she was doing as a model and Spunky had gotten quite good as a photographer, whenever anybody had any criticism of the photography, the answer would always be "well, what do you want? We're amateurs!" Yeah, right - they were making more money than 99% of their members - that's a profession at that point. | |
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| 03-11-10 06:53pm - 5399 days | #14 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
My idea of an amateur's site may differ from other people but I think that any site that is owned and operated by the star herself and where the girl has never done porn for other sites or in movies is an amateur. I agree that calling her an amateur after she has been doing porn for 3 yrs may be stretching it but I guess we can re-classify her site semi-pro. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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