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09-09-08 09:07am - 5948 days | Original Post - #1 | |
Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Are some models getting too old ? Are some models getting too old ? I was a member over at video box and was surprised at some of the models, that were not milf's just getting a tad ratty compred to their hay day. Jill Kelly hold her own well ( wish shed hold mine) and seem the exception of the aging porn queeen. SO.. who do you think should hang up the Dildo and get a day job? Cybertoad Since 2007 | |
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09-09-08 09:43am - 5948 days | #2 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I wish more of the models in the videos offered by Video Box were turning a "tad ratty." I am not looking for older porn stars because once they've been in the business about 20 years I tend to get tired looking at them. I'm looking for more older women, closer to my age and that is a niche that's almost empty. I wish I could give you a name as to who should hang up the Dildo, but I never had a thing for "stars" so I don't know too many by their names. There's an older blonde that seems to be in half of the MILF movies, I know I'd be happy to see her retire .. nothing personal, some faces just become too familiar. Added later: just remembered the name: Nina Hartley (sp?) Edited on Sep 09, 2008, 11:06am | |
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04-21-10 09:24am - 5359 days | #3 | |
Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Inquiring minds still want to know Since 2007 | |
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04-21-10 05:31pm - 5359 days | #4 | |
pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
There has been a resurgence of past porn stars making a comeback of sorts. I can think of Raylene, JR Carrington, Jewel Jade and Dyanna lauren as some good example. I find their comeback somewhat bitter sweet. On the one part I'm happy to see them again but on the other. I would hope that after doing porn for many years that you'd have moved on and would not need to do porn again. Some can say that they love what they are doing but I'm more on the team that believes they need the money and this is the only way they know how to make quick cash. Another problem is that many of them have gone the route of implants and tattoos. Two thing that I don't really like. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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04-21-10 06:45pm - 5359 days | #5 | |
slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
I would say the porn industry in general puts a lot of wear and tear on the ladies. It doesn't seem to take very long for the wheels to come off the bus in some cases (at least in my opinion). Look at the transformation of some newer euro stars from looking great to looking like a drug addled freak in just a few years. As far as who should hang it up, I think as long as people are interested in the performer and buying their movies, even if they look ratty to some, they can go ahead and keep doing what they are doing - although I probably wont be watching. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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04-21-10 07:22pm - 5359 days | #6 | |
Goldfish (0)
Active User Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
I agree though I think a lot of it has to do with plastic surgery gone a rye. I tend to like the young teen models because they are natural. Sure, older models will show their age without the surgery but I bet many of them would look good sans the plastic surgery into their late 20's or early 30's if they took care of themselves with diet and exercise. I'm not a milf kind of guy but that natural looking 28 year old is a rarity I wouldn't mind seeing more of. | |
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04-21-10 10:43pm - 5358 days | #7 | |
Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Goldfish who is your avatar a picture of ?? Since 2007 | |
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04-21-10 10:55pm - 5358 days | #8 | |
turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Since when did 28 qualify as MILF model material? Maybe you meant Model I'd Like to Fuck? I am kind of picky about titles such as MILF and so forth and technically an 18 year old girl with a kid could qualify as one but generally we think it applies to age, but 28?! Really? If she's been running the "bus" for ten years straight that might be different but even so... Your first comment about plastic surgery makes a great point though; I think a lot of women (i.e., basically all of them) would look far less freaky if they just made sure to lay off the Taco Bell and alcohol instead of calling up their local scalpel-wielding surgeon and getting an upgrade. That and maybe staying out the sun a little more, as that seems to be the worst thing to happen to women as they age. Okay, before I get a by a defensive member or two I'm just saying that aging gracefully can happen pretty naturally on its own without the need for general anesthesia and some appointments to remind you that you're beautiful but there's always room for improvement. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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04-21-10 11:08pm - 5358 days | #9 | |
WeeWillyWinky (0)
Active User Posts: 243 Registered: Jun 03, '07 Location: Havasu City, AZ USA |
Saw some pics of Nina Hartley recently that I thought were awful. You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! | |
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04-22-10 12:50am - 5358 days | #10 | |
turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Really? I looked up some of her most recent images--clothed, but late 2009, early 2010--and I thought she looked pretty damn good for a lady of her age and career length. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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04-22-10 06:58pm - 5358 days | #11 | |
pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I have to agree with turboshaft on Nina's looks. I think that she still looks amazingly hot for a 51 yrs old woman who's been doing porn for 16yrs and not the tame stuff either. As far as I can tell the only surgery that she has had are breast implants and I can't complain too much because they don't look like volleyballs stuck to her chest. Of course I'm in my 40's so that could have a lot to do with why I still find her beautiful. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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04-22-10 08:07pm - 5358 days | #12 | |
Goldfish (0)
Active User Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
I'm not really sure. I just liked the orange because it goes with the screen name. Edited on Apr 22, 2010, 08:19pm | |
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04-22-10 08:17pm - 5358 days | #13 | |
Goldfish (0)
Active User Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
No, no, no. My meaning was I'm not a MILF guy, meaning I don't go for the 40's/50's thing "BUT" I'd like to see more attractive, natural looking 28 year old's in porn. I find models tend to start going heavy on the plastic surgery by their late 20s/30s. I'd probably prefer mid to late 20's porn stars, even over the teen stars, if they kept their factory model bodies was my point. | |
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04-23-10 12:07am - 5357 days | #14 | |
turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Oh, whoops... I honestly can't tell much of a difference between a lot of girls in their late teens and those in their late 20s, but it has quite a bit to do with upkeep, drug use, surgery, and the fact that I'm 27 and I like to think I'm not as old as I really am. Unfortunately in porn late 20s is nearly ancient and too frequently considered a post retirement age. And plastic surgery at that age is just premature and unnecessary if you ask me. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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04-25-10 03:33am - 5355 days | #15 | |
Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I think it largely depends on your perspective. If you are a teenager people in their twenties are old. If you are a pensioner someone in their fifties is a youngster. A few ladies who have taken care of themselves are very presentable in their 40's & 50's & I enjoy seeing them strip naked. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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04-25-10 07:12pm - 5355 days | #16 | |
Goldfish (0)
Active User Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
Yeah, well after I passed a certain age my sliding scale of what I considered a beautiful woman came to a screeching halt in the late 20's despite my continued aging. lol. | |
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04-25-10 11:04pm - 5354 days | #17 | |
turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Absolutely! Now that's what I would call a Gold(fish) standard! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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04-26-10 08:11am - 5354 days | #18 | |
PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Debi Diamond came back out of retirement a year or two ago. Having been a big fan of her first 2 runs, I can't say that I was excited to see her 3rd. But, hey, if she wanted to do it and some porn fans wanted to see her, then I can't tell her to quit just because my tastes run to younger, tighter babes. | |
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04-26-10 06:57pm - 5354 days | #19 | |
pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I was surprised when I first heard that she was doing a comeback. I saw a couple of her scenes and she still looks good. She's still wild when it comes to her sex. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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04-26-10 09:58pm - 5353 days | #20 | |
GCode (0)
Active User Posts: 386 Registered: Feb 23, '09 Location: USA |
I have mixed feelings on the topic. #1: I am a fan of mature content and I'm kind of in the ball park that sites with 'true' mature content are the best. However, I can clearly say that some age groups of extremely old are just not for me. #2: That brings me to this other part, that I am a bit torn as to what to say. I find a certain age limit to be a bit too old for porn but can I say any models that are considred 'vets' getting too old? No because they are just transforming themselves into a different niche that many will still love. #3: It is what it is, can I really hate on any stars that stay in the industry for a long time? While many may see them as taking an 'easy' way in to getting money by just screwing for cash and not trying to get a 'day job' but I disagree in a way. From what I'm kinda getting from some opinions is that porn is kind of a 'immature' thing to do and staying in the business for a long time keeps them this way. But, I'd say as the model matures in age and stays in the business the whole time or making a comeback as maybe they have really come to terms with themselves. I'd probably say most models that are older and go in to 'mature' porn are probably a lot more comfortable with doing porn because of their 'maturity' level. In all honesty, I'd probably say it's healthier for older models to do porn than it is for a 18 year old. I, for one, personally can say I was a complete idiot at the age 18. When I turned 21, I thought the same as I do now, "wow, I was an idiot when I was 18". Funny thing is, I can say I was even an idiot when I was 21 lol. For all you older folk, I bet you even think the same way as a 40+ old about being 30. You just get smarter and have greater self realization as you get older. However, with everything I said above I will comment that the industry has definintly taken a toll on some models and this can be seen as them 'getting too old'. Like all entertainment, many lives become a lot faster paced which can include lots of partying and so on. So, I have to agree that many models may have been in the industry living this chosen lifestyle (I'm sure many pornstars do not do excessive partying and so on) are probably getting too old to keep being in the business. However, maybe a break and getting healthier can result in a come back looking as good as ever; giving me some new mature content to download lol Sexted From My iPad | |
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04-30-10 10:39pm - 5349 days | #21 | |
Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Shes hot Since 2007 | |
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05-02-10 07:16pm - 5348 days | #22 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I still find Nina very handsome. As a matter of fact I watched her in a scene yesterday where she was hot! What prompted my "getting tired of her" remarks were all those videos she's been making lately where she is playing the instructor on how to do every facet of porn to younger models. | |
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05-03-10 02:25pm - 5347 days | #23 | |
turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
"Handsome"? I'm not a fan of models her age, but I think she's a pretty hot exception to the rule, though the whole typecasting thing does get a little tired after a while. It seems like any woman past thirty-five--roughly MILF age, I guess--is automatically put into the mother role with a costar who is sometimes only fifteen years younger, stretching the role even more. There are countless videos out there with mother-daughter-team stories and the mother role is always has them 'instructing' the younger, naiver innocent in the ways of hardcore sex. Fun the first couple of dozen times but eventually it gets old. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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05-03-10 02:28pm - 5347 days | #24 | |
turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Comebacks don't always work but I prefer models come out of retirement rather than 'find religion' or something similar and spend the rest of their lives attacking the industry. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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05-03-10 02:52pm - 5347 days | #25 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Handsome .. must be a Canadian expression. I hear it often: she's a handsome woman. Usually applied to women over a certain age. And I agree with the rest of what you are writing. | |
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05-03-10 03:21pm - 5347 days | #26 | |
Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Brits have it too. In a similar context. BTW From those photos linked, I can barely recognise Faye as the same woman. She does look really gaunt. What a shame. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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05-03-10 03:56pm - 5347 days | #27 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Yep, it is sad. And in those pictures she looks absolutely chubby compared to the interview at the AVN Awards. | |
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05-29-10 11:29pm - 5320 days | #29 | |
malikstarks (0)
Active User Posts: 108 Registered: Nov 19, '07 Location: Florida |
There is actually a grossly under served market for mature North American models. Granted the demand for older women is not hug, however it is significant and most sites that have attempted to cater to this niche have established a Loyal fanbase. Take for instance The Score Group; they have some 30-40 sites that they run including some very good quality mainstream sites like Naughtymag,18eighteen, christymarks etc. Plus they already have a mature site with 40somethingmag.com. Nonetheless, they must have seen the unmet demand for EVEN OLDER North American models, and decided to launch 50plusmilfs.com last year. Lo and behold, if you look at the list of their top selling sites http://www.score-cash.com/ number three on the list (right after their two flagship sites scoreland and xlgirls) is 50plusmilfs.com. In the current climate where mainstream porn is so freely traded and as accessible as a Google search. The real money being made is in niche and fetish. (That is unless you are one of the massive sites like Brazzers, Realitykings etc.) So I say bring on the older models and sites catering those of us who like them. Edited on May 29, 2010, 11:47pm | |
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05-30-10 08:45am - 5320 days | #30 | |
pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I'd say that the available talent pool for women willing to do porn and hardcore porn is even smaller must be very small. I could be wrong but unless you've been in the biz for many years then starting porn at 40 let alone 50 is not likely to be very high on your choice of possible careers. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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05-30-10 10:01am - 5320 days | #31 | |
malikstarks (0)
Active User Posts: 108 Registered: Nov 19, '07 Location: Florida |
You make a good point, there certainly are not enough of these women to 'flood the industry'(at least not yet). However there are far more enough to fill up a few networks with constant updates. A great deal of them would come from the swinging community, which makes up a good portion of the models on 50plusmilfs.com. Also there are tons of these types of models on other more soft core sites like Southern Charms, which has hundreds of models. (and most of the models on SC do hardcore videos as well for a separate purchase). Part of it may be a matter of logistics, certainly there are more than enough models willing to do this type of thing, but they are spread out across the country (like the southern charms models). The models for instance from 50plusmilfs mostly come from Florida where The Score Group is based. Still I have no doubt that it could be done. I'm certain there is a market for it, and that's usually all that is needed. Edited on May 30, 2010, 10:05am | |
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05-30-10 02:11pm - 5320 days | #32 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
My dream: a site like Southern Charms except that you don't have to subscribe to each individual model but rather get about thirty or more regular models with steady updates and ZIPPED picture sets! They've had some hot amateurs over the years and I find most a lot more appealing than the pro-ams. They also seem to be more aware of the fine art of a good tease than most mature sites out there! And thanks for the tip re. 50plusmilfs, I must have another look to study some of the swingers more closely! | |
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