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| 02-11-12 05:02pm - 4697 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Hacker claims porn site users compromised "LONDON (AP) — A hacker claims to have compromised the personal information of more than 350,000 users after breaking into a disused website operated by pornography provider Brazzers. Kate Miller, director of communications for site owner Manwin Holding SARL, said Saturday it was "currently investigating the issue" but that no credit card information has been leaked. Miller said it appeared that the hacker had gained access to an inactive forum to help enter other, linked websites. She said people who were potentially affected were being notified of the security breach by the company. In an email, she said that security was "a priority at all times" and that the company would do all it could to safeguard its users' information. The email went on to blame the hacker for "illegal and prohibited cyber criminal activities." The breach is a potential embarrassment for Luxembourg-based Manwin, which runs some of the world's best-known pornography websites. A small sample of the hundreds of thousands of pieces of user data allegedly compromised were posted to the Internet earlier this week. Emails, usernames, and encrypted passwords were divulged, and in some cases it was possible to infer porn users' full names and country of origin. The hacker claiming responsibility for the breach told The Associated Press that he carried out the attack to draw attention to the site's vulnerability. "I didn't do that for any money," he said in an email. He identified himself only as a 17-year-old living in Morocco and claimed allegiance to Anonymous, the global movement of cyber-mischief-makers who have carried out embarrassing attacks on record companies, the Church of Scientology, and the FBI." Just thought you might find this of interest. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 02-11-12 07:15pm - 4697 days | #2 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I joined them once, several years ago, but used Epoch for billing. Thanks for the post. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 02-11-12 07:21pm - 4697 days | #3 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User  Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
Ouch. Obviously, this will hurt new subscriptions and renewals, not just for Brazzers but for the paid industry in general. Unlike other online business ventures, privacy is an extra-sensitive issue for many user--me included. Nothing will scare away users from paid porn sites more than the idea of someone getting hold of their name, location, and email info and making it public on the net. The silver lining for consumers in this scenarios is that it's a safe bet that other sites will now scramble to make sure they have their bases covered. In other words, they will do what should have done to begin with--proper due diligence in relation to security measures. Sounds like they just got lazy and left too many loopholes hanging out there. Unfortunately, like Sony, they will learn the hard way that you can't skimp on security and need to always be on guard and take appropriate measures to always know what the latest threats are and where you are vulnerable. I do like the quote, however: "The hacker claiming responsibility for the breach told The Associated Press that he carried out the attack to draw attention to the site's vulnerability." mmmm..OK. You mean you really did it just to make a name for yourself and gain some street cred among your fellow sociopaths and delinquents at Anonymous. Spare us the story about being the noble knight coming to the rescue. Anonymous always puts out this line to try to obscure the obvious fact thay they are just a bunch of antisocial delinquents and vandals running amok.  Edited on Feb 11, 2012, 08:00pm | |
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| 02-11-12 09:56pm - 4697 days | #4 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Yes, it's a bit much, isn't it? Kind of like saying, "We broke down your front door by repeatedly smashing it with a battering ram just to make it clear to you that you have a weak spot in your home security." I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 02-12-12 04:02am - 4697 days | #5 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
That's one big advantage of using a company like CCBill for billing. If anyone hacks my server I don't have anyone's creditcard information or even their names and addresses. They can't steal the information from me if I don't have it in the first place! Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 02-13-12 01:14pm - 4696 days | #6 | |
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atrapat (0)
Active User  Posts: 182 Registered: Apr 19, '08 Location: Non-USA |
I've been receiving spam that contained my real name for so long that I wonder if there's any site that isn't already hacked. I'd like to know how much personal information apart from real name and email a website owner has access to. Ed2009 says that ccbill doesn't provide that info to webmasters but I've just checked my spam folder and there are several spam emails from the last month with my real name and an email address of mine that was only used to join a particular site and it was via ccbill. I doubt that site is the one spamming but, whether they sold my personal data or someone hacked into their system, it's pretty obvious ccbill offered them access to my real name at some point whether they knew it or not. | |
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| 02-13-12 04:06pm - 4695 days | #7 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
The Spam you get probably isn't from hacked info. All those discount cards you sign up for at the grocery store, pharmacy, gas station, etc..all that stuff makes it's way into a marketing database eventually. The providers claim they don't sell or give away the information but that is only a half-truth. If you read the fine print, you will usually see that there is an asterik which says something to the effect of: * We will not sell or supply info to third parties. We will occasionally send you offers...etc.. How third party is defined can be vague. Basically, it usually means non-affiliates or marketing consultants they are in business with. Most consumer banking entities are usually simply affiliates or a subsidiary of a larger entity or corporation. For example, if you sign up for a discount card with a retailer that is partly owned by citigroup, you may find you get spammed with offers for credit cards or home equity lines. I suppose the same thing may be true of CCBill. They haven't given you info a way to a thrid party. If it indeed originated with CCBill, they probably just are affiliated with, or alligned with other business entities that deal with marketing. So they really didn't give it away to a third party. Edited on Feb 13, 2012, 04:13pm | |
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| 02-14-12 01:24am - 4695 days | #8 | |
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tboy (0)
Active User Posts: 14 Registered: Sep 15, '11 |
hahaha, made me chuckle. | |
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| 02-14-12 03:41am - 4695 days | #9 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
If you signed up to my site I can get your name and username from CCBill (after all there are many legitimate reasons why I might need to contact you), but that information is not stored on my server, I have to log into CCBill's database to get the data. I can see reasons why I might want to store the contact details of all my customers on my own computer (although keeping the info up-to-date would be a pain) but there would be no purpose to storing it on my server. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 02-14-12 07:51am - 4695 days | #10 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
It's actually a shame. These are bright kids who could have a very lucrative career in IT if they would put their talents to good use. Unfortunately, instead of doing something productive, they choose to live in their mother's basement, living off of three-day old pizza while trying to gain the attention of their peers. | |
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| 02-14-12 08:41am - 4695 days | #11 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^True but you are assuming that these hackers are teens living in their parents basement and not competitiors who are trying to get back at Brazzer for being such great business. I wouldn't put it pass any business to try and make a buck by attacking another site's security and using the customers insecurities to increase traffic to your own site. I know my idea sounds a little far-fetch but my current view on large corporation in general is rather negative since I heard a story that Sony raised the price on one of Whitney's most popular album by 60% the night she passed away. Now that's what I call corporate greed. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 02-14-12 04:42pm - 4694 days | #12 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
Hi. Yeah, I guess anything is possible but my bet is on the teen living in mother's basement. Incidents like this have negative ramifications for any pay site on the net. Regarding the album price increase, it's just supply and demand. The albums are now going to be in big demand and will command a higher price. The goal of a corporation is to mazimize profits. Yes, it is greed, but I wouldn't call this incident the nefarious and shady kind of greed like Enron. Anyone selling something wants to get the highest price they can. If nobody buys at the price, it will go down. I actually would think the price would be higher than 60%. If they start selling out, the price will go through the roof. | |
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| 02-14-12 04:46pm - 4694 days | #13 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
While hackers do present a clear and present danger, on a bigger scale what I think effects us is info like this: Twelve years ago, of the world's 100 largest economic entities, 51 were corporations and 49 countries. The world's top 200 corporations account for over a quarter of economic activity on the globe while employing less than one percent of its workforce. " Few trends could so thoroughly undermine the very foundations of our free society as the acceptance by corporate officials of a social responsibility other than to make as much money for their stockholders as possible. " Economist Milton Friedman in his 1962 book Capitalism and Freedom For some reason I find this scary. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 02-14-12 05:30pm - 4694 days | #14 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
Well, when I was younger, I was more liberal in regards to my views on economics. Yeah, there is a lot of underhanded activity on the part of some corporations. Greed, however, is a human fault, not a corporate one. The possibiltiy of profit drives the market and makes production possible. We are the ones fueling it. Our instatiable demand for goods and services fuels this and makes it possible. Without a product and consumers to purchase these products, there is no profit and there is nobody willing to invest in the infrastructure to create the manufacturing which produces the goods. We would all be complaining if we didn't have our internet, laptops, ipads, automobiles, and amusement parks. Nobody is going to supply such things as part of a not-for-profit undertaking. You need someone to put up the money to buy the machinery to create the goods. Nobody is going to do this for free without a decent chance of returns on their investment. If you don't get such investment capital, you will have no money to build. The allure of profit is the driver that makes it possible for people to be willing to venture into such an undertaking. Without it, we have no goods to amuse ourselves. | |
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| 02-15-12 11:01am - 4694 days | #15 | |
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atrapat (0)
Active User Posts: 182 Registered: Apr 19, '08 Location: Non-USA |
Thanks a lot Ed2009 for the info on what pay site owners have access to regarding customer info on ccbill. Since, as I said, I've received spam using my real name and a one-time email alias I used only once to sign up for an adult site, I gather not all webmasters think as you and some harvest email addresses from their members. Whether the resulting spam comes from a website hack, a mail list sale or comes from the site themselve is certainly debatable. IMHO, I sincerley doubt a company that has a well-known network of adult sites comparable to Brazzers would send spyware or phishing emails to former members. | |
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| 02-15-12 12:40pm - 4694 days | #16 | |
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Micha (0)
Active User Posts: 321 Registered: Jul 04, '10 Location: san jose ca |
Bubba rote : ......when I was younger, I was more liberal in regards to my views on economics. Para-phrasing Winston Churchill, If you are 18 years old and not a liberal, you have no soul. If you are 40 years old and not conservative, you're just stupid. unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck. | |
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| 02-15-12 04:53pm - 4693 days | #17 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
There was a time I would have agreed with Winston and god knows I've tried but shit like this is what pisses me off. 1980 - The beginning of deregulation and the redistribution of wealth upwards through the disproven farce of Reaganomics, aka voodoo economics or trickle down which laid the ground work for corporate control and 'Citizens United' (or as it should be called 'Corporations First'). Trickle down never worked as they said it would (mainly because wealth doesn't trickle down, it really flows up), it worked as they really expected and intended, to strengthen corporate power, and to merge corporation and state. So I don't see myself as liberal, I just feel like an unwilling participant in a anal porn flick. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! Edited on Feb 15, 2012, 04:57pm | |
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| 02-15-12 05:47pm - 4693 days | #18 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
Well, I don't think it's really about being liberal or conservative. Most people have their views and opinions evolve throughout the course of their life. Very few people start and end life as hardcore liberals or conservatives across the board. In terms of popular labels, I guess I would have been classified as a hardcore liberal in my days of youth. Always voted Dem across the board. Today, I would classify myself as a socially liberal, fiscaly conservative, independant voter.  | |
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| 02-15-12 07:10pm - 4693 days | #19 | |
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hodayathink (0)
Active User Posts: 312 Registered: Mar 27, '09 Location: Illinois |
They wouldn't directly, no. What they would do is give your e-mail address to, for instance, the cam site that they're affiliated with. And that cam site certainly would sell your e-mail information to whomever wanted to buy it. | |
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| 02-16-12 01:18pm - 4693 days | #20 | |
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atrapat (0)
Active User Posts: 182 Registered: Apr 19, '08 Location: Non-USA |
You're very right about sites sharing emails with cam sites. Porn Pros Network has a clone of Streamate.com and they've been spamming me every couple days since I joined Porn Pros. But, in any case, I'm certain the hack into Brazzers Network that originated this thread was not the first nor will it be the last hack into an adult site. | |
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| 02-16-12 05:05pm - 4692 days | #21 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
"Deregulation," as the chart indicates, is a nice code word for "The Increasing Value of Purchasable Members of Congress." So I guess what we need is THIS! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 02-17-12 12:12am - 4692 days | #22 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
But what if corporations are people?  My problem with no-holds-barred capitalism is that it can take on something that is far from what anybody should be able to call "free" with a straight face. How is massive data collecting, litigation protection, and financial muscle beyond what any average citizen could muster, an integral part of a "free society"? I guess if you don't mind being perpetually beholden to corporate interests--profits above everything else--or can simply afford to have them work in your favor, than the concept of unregulated free markets sounds nice. Unfortunately the vast majority of us don't really live in a world where we can simply turn to a private solution for any and every issue we face in living in a complex society. What I'm trying to say is, while its nice to make profits and have private innovation and progress, I don't think a "fuck you, I got mine first" attitude is necessary. We can, for example, have profitable private energy companies exist while also not dumping toxins into our water supplies or turning into Enron-style shitstorms in the process. It's not exactly as if our only two choices are some sort of Soviet police state or an Ayn Rand plutocracy. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 02-17-12 12:27am - 4692 days | #23 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
What's depressing is that people like you (using your current views) don't really have a serious choice among major political candidates. Instead we can only seem to lump everything into very polarized camps of idiocracy. You are probably too fiscally conservative to like Democrats but the Republicans ain't exactly socially liberal. And frankly, neither party really satisfies either of those basic views. Both are responsible for massive amounts of spending, and any socially progressive legislation is only passed at a snail's pace while most citizens wonder why they're represented by out-of-touch dinosaurs (except for the ones from their own districts, of course!  )If we're getting personal here, I would call myself a civil libertarian, since "liberal" is practically a slur now, while "libertarian" alone sounds only slightly less depressing than Jonestown at this point (with nitwits like Ron Paul and his followers reminding me why I hate the label). More specifically I wish Democrats would grow some balls, or at least come up with some principle views, while Republicans need to tone down the rage a little. Yeah, I'll keep dreaming. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 02-17-12 03:47am - 4692 days | #24 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Twelve years ago, of the world's 100 largest economic entities, 51 were corporations and 49 countries. The world's top 200 corporations account for over a quarter of economic activity on the globe while employing less than one percent of its workforce. " Few trends could so thoroughly undermine the very foundations of our free society as the acceptance by corporate officials of a social responsibility other than to make as much money for their stockholders as possible. " Economist Milton Friedman in his 1962 book Capitalism and Freedom I guess Miltie didn't realize how it really wasn't for their stockholders but for themselves. I find it amazing that Wall Street Bankers put together toxic investments to sell to us, then hedge their bets based on insider trading, then teeter on the verge of bankruptcy and have the balls to borrow bailouts from the government so they can pay bonuses to the crooks who set up these scam investments to bilk billions out of their investors. Apparently since there has been NO criminal charges brought there is no crime here, but perhaps since it was only the tears of seeing retirement funds crash and burn instead of oil being spilled we just can't get no satisfaction.  If you were to ask me, I'm apolitical by nature, but watching this stuff just makes me  If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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