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| 04-19-08 11:30am - 6053 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User  Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
One Review Wonders What do you think of people who use PU once to slam a site, and then never come back? This is not to say any criticism is unwarranted, but I have noticed recently quite a few people joining us to express their dissatisfaction with a site they joined, and then you never hear from them again. I know the anti-shill measures are in place to protect the average scores, but personally I would like to see "one review wonders" removed after a time. | |
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| 04-19-08 12:19pm - 6053 days | #2 | |
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Goldfish (0)
Active User  Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
I agree with jd1961 that there are probably those that sign up to give one or two reviews and then disappear. I sometimes wonder if a Webmaster has three or four of his buddies come on to give rave reviews -- but that's what the user rankings are for. If you see three excellent reviews and they're all newbies it's pretty easy to figure out. My stance is there shouldn't be any blocking or adjusting of scores. I think PU is sophisticated enough that we can see the one-hit wonders for what they are. | |
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| 04-19-08 01:11pm - 6053 days | #3 | |
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malikstarks (0)
Active User Posts: 108 Registered: Nov 19, '07 Location: Florida |
They can sometimes provide valuable insight even if their reviews are somewhat incoherent. The key thing is, in many cases, they've been in the site and we have not. That said, I would also say that the negative reviews are much more useful than the positive ones though. The unabashedly positive review of a "one hit review wonder" as you call them is immediately suspect. Which leads me to say that my impression overall is that this site holds quite a bit of influence with web masters. We can't necessarily make or break a site here, but we can certainly turn away business, particularly for a new startup. How many webmasters have you seen immediately respond to a review or comment made about their site here. I get the idea that it is a pretty high priority to make sure they stay in the good graces of the virgining PU community. Edited on Apr 20, 2008, 12:41pm | |
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| 04-19-08 01:16pm - 6053 days | #4 | |
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malikstarks (0)
Active User Posts: 108 Registered: Nov 19, '07 Location: Florida |
Another suggestion that I have had is that the more points one has should provide greater weight in a site's overall score average. This is simply because as you have seen more sites you tend to give more accurate reviews. I would personally change some of the scores I have up now, and I haven't even reviewed that many. | |
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| 04-19-08 03:41pm - 6053 days | #5 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
I agree that a review by someone that has had a bad experience with a site can be valuable, even if the reviewer joined Porn Users expressly to write the bad review and then went on with their life. I feel the same way about legitimate good reviews by people that don't stick around. The spam reviews - "Wow! This site is amazing! I've never seen such hot women! Join - you'll love it!" are not too hard to spot and I believe that moderators are removing those, either on their own or when noted by other members. | |
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| 04-20-08 02:54am - 6052 days | #6 | |
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Colm4 (0)
Active User  Posts: 117 Registered: Sep 22, '07 Location: Holland |
I guess I fit in that 1 review category. You must understand that not everybody joins a multitude of sites as many of you do. I think a lot of people only join 1 or 2 sites and stick to it. Could be a money thing or they just like the certain site. I had 2 bad incidents with a site and wrote about it, but after that, only encountered good ones. I am less inclined to write about good sites since these usually have large amounts of good reviews already. | |
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| 04-20-08 07:48am - 6052 days | #7 | |
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JBDICK (0)
Active User  Posts: 160 Registered: Apr 04, '08 Location: Wales, UK |
for my own guilt...I've only done 13 so far, and want to do more but it is a toss up (PUN intended) between doing the interactive review then writing the results up in PU...and it's a hard one to make a choice coz I have to say doing the review write up in PU is actually good fun, and so are thew polls and the forum area... I have the following on my list to review from this weekend... argentinatriplex.com thirdmovies.com blackicepass.com littlelupe.com I guess what I'm trying to say is for those that I look upto, including the johnny pneumonic of porn, please don't put me in this group. dare I say it, I'll try harder to do my reviews on time...as long as they continue to be well received and my final note...PU & TBP rocks...my new cyberfriends Beautiful Girls Covered in Pearls and No Oysters in Sight | |
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| 04-20-08 09:53am - 6052 days | #8 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I have no problem for those one review wonders as long as their review is for an unknown site or if they want to add something new to an older review. I'd might have issue if their review of a site is all positive. That would smell of a BS review. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 04-20-08 10:34am - 6052 days | #9 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I agree on both counts. Legit PU members who don't do a lot here should be able to express themselves without getting "friendly fire" that would be intended only for negative shills. (Personally, I check the user for the kind of activity on record in addition to the slamming review(s), and if there isn't much, I at least know that I could be taking my chances.) Besides, some sites get quite a range of opinions. Where are the shills? Sometimes it's hard to tell, if there are any to begin with. And some shills are pretty good at covering their tracks. They participate in poll discussions, reply to comments or reviews, etc. I once found out that a user had been dropped once the admin folks at PU discovered that he was using a machine from one of the content provider web sites. That was a surprise. And of course some of them are pretty thin between the ears, or just too damn lazy to work up and keep up a good con. They're easy enough to spot. In any case, there are no guarantees in life, porn included. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Apr 20, 2008, 10:37am | |
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| 04-20-08 12:38pm - 6052 days | #10 | |
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malikstarks (0)
Active User Posts: 108 Registered: Nov 19, '07 Location: Florida |
Guys like yourself are why I believe PU should allow users to gain points on follow up reviews. There would need to be a time restriction like say 6-8 months, but after this you could earn more points on the follow up. This is simply because sites change over time and the follow up review of a devoted fan can provide valuable insight. I myself have only done four, simply out of laziness for lack of a better reason. I wish I had the discipline of an exotics4some or nygiants. I would certainly have alot more points and perhaps even some raffle winnings. | |
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| 04-20-08 08:45pm - 6052 days | #11 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Any review is better than no review. It is easy to disregard a useless review, so I personally have no qualms about sifting through a few shit reviews for the various "one-hit-wonder" reviews that are useful to the community. As mentioned above, many people aren't willing to budget as much money for porn as many of the more hardcore users are. I certainly spend more than what I honestly consider reasonable - but then again, if I was hitting up bars or strip clubs, I'd be dropping a lot more loot than that, so I can rationalize it in some twisted way. Still, if somebody feels like chiming in about a site, I see no problem with that and I don't feel like they should be censored unless there is good reason. After all, this site is "porn reviews by the people." "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 04-20-08 09:59pm - 6052 days | #12 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
To make my self clearer, I am not referring to people who don't have money to spend on sites. I am referring to those who obviously have a gripe about a site, and only join here in attempt to do damage to a site. After we complained about site shills, TBP listened and created a system that removed all these ridiculous sites that dominated "our" top ten list. I think it may only be fair to webmasters to eliminate those who obviously have an agenda against a site. | |
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| 04-21-08 07:24am - 6051 days | #13 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Just as a reminder ... Since last August, the review scores of those who have not yet earned 5 points are not counted towards a site's official PU score/ranking. See the Announcement Major Site Scoring Change for more info. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 04-20-10 10:55pm - 5321 days | #14 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I think it would be very rare a person would have agenda against a site to use so much energy to attack a site by joining forums like PU. Since 2007 | |
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| 04-21-10 05:40am - 5321 days | #15 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Cybertoad ... you are aware you're responding to a thread that has been dead for two years, right?  Former PornUsers Senior AdministratorNow at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 04-21-10 06:42am - 5321 days | #16 | |
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nostromo (0)
Active User Posts: 131 Registered: Sep 22, '07 Location: madrid/spain |
I've only done three reviews: Men in Pain; Hot Legs and Feet, and Whipped ass. I've been a member of this site for some years already, i believe i'm one of the early members. I haven't done more reviews due to the already large number of detailed reviews existing about a lot of sites: another ftv, twistys, videobox, and so forth review... i don't think so. When i thought that it could be of any use to somebody i wrote a comment. But, i'd like to slam an awful lot of sites that have charged me extra money with their GEO TARGETING tactics. What am i to do...? write a 50 words review awarding this sites a low score so that their rankings drop -as they deserve-, and, while i'm at it, throw in some subjective remarks about the looks of the models, perhaps i should do so from now on. One thing is for certain, the staff at porusers when reviewing, even in the V 2.0, don't knock down points on account of this shady practices.  Anyway, i must confess that english being a foreign language to me i have refrain from writing more comments, reviews or posting on this forum, because i can´t be precise, or ellaborate as i do in my mother tongue, and that aggravates me. Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. H.L. Mencken. | |
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| 04-21-10 06:57am - 5321 days | #17 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
nostromo - I know the feeling/the deal - but no matter if english is not your (or my) national/first language: do not give a damn - do your reviews/comments ect. in the way you like - fighting with some translation to english. I think/know most/a vast majority of fellow PUs are aware of those facts - and give us a chance. If a few don't: that's their problem.... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Apr 21, 2010, 07:03am | |
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| 04-21-10 07:19am - 5321 days | #18 | |
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BadMrFrosty (0)
Active User Posts: 124 Registered: Mar 05, '10 Location: Prague (Czech Republic) |
Well your point is definatly not lost in translation, I agree with what you say. Also your English is a hell of a lot better than a lot of Brits / Americans that I know  And dont get me started on the mess that Australians call English  The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?Frank Zappa | |
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| 04-21-10 07:25am - 5321 days | #19 | |
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nostromo (0)
Active User Posts: 131 Registered: Sep 22, '07 Location: madrid/spain |
Denner, i take my hat off to you scandinavians on account of your english command. I have yet to meet an scandinavian who doesn't speak english fluently. In this forum there are germans, scandinavians, italians, dutch, spaniards... this forum should take pride in that fact. Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. H.L. Mencken. Edited on Apr 21, 2010, 08:14am | |
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| 04-21-10 07:31am - 5321 days | #20 | |
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nostromo (0)
Active User Posts: 131 Registered: Sep 22, '07 Location: madrid/spain |
Thanks a bunch BadMrFrosty. I should have added czechs to the list.  Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. H.L. Mencken. | |
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| 04-21-10 07:55am - 5321 days | #21 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I was sifting through some old ones and thought they could be renewed. Is that ok to do ?  Along time ago before I left came back and left and came back LOL Then forum was really hopping.  I peaked at the forum rules to see if that was ok, didnt see anything so thought hmmm how about getting some topics going for the newbies  that may not even know they existed.I wont do it anymore if you guys thinkits not cool. But look like ppl are responding ??  Since 2007 | |
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| 04-21-10 08:14am - 5321 days | #22 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Sure, it's fine ... just weren't sure if you were aware it was an old thread. And ... as there have been several replies addressing the original topic, it looks like maybe it was a timely choice on your part. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 04-21-10 08:23am - 5321 days | #23 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Anything I can help to support the cause  LOL Since 2007 | |
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| 04-21-10 09:25am - 5321 days | #24 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Of course, there's always the other option of starting a new thread on the subject you're interested in. You can reference the original thread but add your new thoughts/questions. In some cases, that might be better as it wouldn't confuse the issue with a lot of posts that *may* contain outdated information. Just mentioning it as another option. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 04-21-10 10:10am - 5321 days | #25 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
That a good idea, I did just that I am going to try and do that over the next week look at some of the old stuff and sift through . Its kinda fun looking at what ppl thought 2 years ago. Since 2007 | |
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