|
|||||
|
| Porn Users Forum » Why The Aversion To Music? |
| 1-21 of 21 Posts | Page 1 |
| Thread Nav : Refresh Page | First Post | Last Post | Porn Forum Home |
| 06-21-10 01:00pm - 5298 days | Original Post - #1 | |
|
messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Why The Aversion To Music? When reading some of the reviews I get the impression that many of our members dislike hearing music in a video. As a matter of fact, some even list it as a negative. I agree that it can be annoying when it comes to a hot scene where you want to hear every moan and grunt, but it seems that sites have taken our complaints too seriously and have applied a cone of silence to all of their videos. I looked at three separate solo videos downloaded from 21Sextury yesterday where models slowly undressed as they did their swaying moves, not quite dancing but close, and music would have really enhanced those scenes. Instead they were giving off those fake moans and heavy breathing before they even touched themselves, not exactly a turn on. There's also the fact that in too many of the solo scenes you can hear the photographer's equipment as he adjusts it etc. etc. It would be nice to see those noises covered up through some low background music. Rant over!  | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 01:20pm - 5298 days | #2 | |
|
Advent (0)
Active Webmaster  Posts: 103 Registered: Aug 13, '09 Location: Tampa, FL |
I know that we do not put music in the background of our scenes because of copyrighting issues. If you play you got to pay!! Owner Kick Ass PicturesCumEatingCuckolds, FootFetishDaily and Kick Ass Pictures Please feel free to contact me with concerns or comments, I would love to hear from you. | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 01:44pm - 5298 days | #3 | |
|
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Yes, a photographer at AO30 told me the same thing, advent! I had forgotten. This leaves one option: compose a "one tune fits all" for your site and give the royalties to yourself!  And if your models moan before they even touch themselves then tell them to cut it out! | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 01:46pm - 5298 days | #4 | |
|
RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
The aversion to music and the aversion to overplayed sexuality are two separate issues. And both suck! To me, if you're gonna make a porn flick, make it realistic. In any sexual encounter I've had, even if there was music playing, I still got to hear my partner - and she wasn't acting like she was having an orgasm before I even touched her. Playing music over live sound only seems like a coverup to me. Either the actors couldn't pull off a realistic scene, or the people directing the shot were giving directions during the shoot - or both. This is yet another reason why I prefer amateur porn to gonzo. There's a lot more realism when John and Jane buy a video camera at Best Buy and go at it. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 01:53pm - 5298 days | #5 | |
|
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Don't have a single argument against yours, RB! I agree with you completely. So, ignoring the copyright issues mentioned by Advent, how do you feel about solo models doing a dance or sway without accompanying music? Does it look awkward to you? Or not? | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 04:16pm - 5298 days | #6 | |
|
graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Well, esteemed fellow member, you, of course, already know my views on the fake moaning an' groaning farce-a-mania......and now that you've brought up a new wrinkle --namely the Keystone Cops behind the action working the equipment and giving directions -- from which I'll add my There's a dire need for these guys to have overseers overseering the overseers. Can you imagine, seated in a local theater, watching an intimantly poignant love scene between two of your favorite popular stars when...(rumble, screech, crackle -- among other distracting noises) appear out of nowhere. Then watch the patrons heading for the ticket booth demanding back their money. I know these porn sets ain't Hollywood....but we're paying good money and they're takin' it...And for that we deserve a decent return. About the music:..no complaints here...it even adds character to the scene. But don't expect music to cover up the apparantly oblivious insensitivities of the noise-makers behind the cameras. Edited on Jun 21, 2010, 04:21pm | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 04:35pm - 5298 days | #7 | |
|
RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
Dancing to music is a whole 'nother story. Dancing isn't a sex scene. I have some clips of girls dancing in various states of undress and... well... I must like 'em 'cuz they're backed up in duplicate on my drives. :cheesy grin: Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 04:42pm - 5298 days | #8 | |
|
Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I'm a big fan of music, and my tastes are, IMHO, pretty broad. And music during sex can be very nice, too. You can even sync together with it and it can be quite potent. But I've found out that outside of music-sharing friends, it's hard to know what music people will like. There's stuff that I just love and have loved for decades that other people care nothing at all for. And I'm hard to figure out the same way. Softcore (spell checker doesn't recognize!) or hardcore (does!) videos that employ music are backgrounding sex in some form, but it's a visual enjoyment mostly -- not tactile unless you're tuning up the "flute." The people who choose the music might go to some pains to pick out something very fitting, they believe, but I almost never like it. It's either this techno stuff that's best for actual dancing (not watching a naked girl in a video do it) or "soft" muzak that goes best with the pressing of and staring at elevator buttons. Tastes are fickle. Music is for moving, not watching (to me). Volume off. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 06:50pm - 5298 days | #9 | |
|
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
To Drooler: I'm not particularly keen on techno stuff either when it comes to background music but would find even that preferable to no sound at all, or the pathetic sound of phoniness, or the creaking of the camera .. or whatever does the creaking in those silent movies! A tripod, maybe? What brought on the subject specifically was that I had downloaded three solo scenes from 21Sextury (I forget the site now because I don't normally visit their glamor section) and all three models were sort of swaying from side to side as they undressed, making gasping noises before their hands were near anything gasp-worthy and I was thinking, God, what I wouldn't give for some music to cover up that fake heavy breathing and gasping. Then ten seconds later the crackling and creaking of the photographer's equipment broke into the girls' efforts and really ruined the clips. They could have been nice otherwise but I didn't stick around to find out. All three got deleted. | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 06:56pm - 5298 days | #10 | |
|
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Exactly, dancing isn't a sex scene except in the sense that the girls in this case eventually stripped and probably masturbated. They actually didn't even dance but did more of a side to side sway. I found it deadly without some sort of music accompanying it. The girls you saved .. did they have music in their scene? And, yes, I like 'em, too. | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 07:01pm - 5298 days | #11 | |
|
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
LOL. "Rumble, Screech, Crackle" describes it well, graymane! That or deadly silence, except for the inexplicable gasps of the models who weren't even touching anything at that particular point! Just as you can't have a party without some sort of music so you can't have a silent solo. Once the gasps turn sincere, okay, but not from the first frame. | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 07:02pm - 5298 days | #12 | |
|
pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
The music can enhance a scene but it has to be the correct one and more importantly should not be too loud to drown out the action. I've seen a few duds in the last few days where the music is annoying and very loud. Needless to say those scenes are ruined. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 07:06pm - 5298 days | #13 | |
|
exotics4me (0)
Active User  Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
I think my problem with music, especially licensed music, I have visual memories to a lot of songs. One of the songs in a Party Hardcore video was "Big Girls Don't Cry". I have a little female cousin who is 7 or 8 who used to sing that song all the time when she was 2 or 3. Other songs would make me think of my mom singing them. Then the worst of all, if it has a catchy enough hook or chorus, I may just burst into singing it  I also think different styles of music put people in different moods. There is an Eve Angel video on Babelicious that has violin music in it. Completely ruins the video for me. I like to hear violin music when resting or taking a nap. However, if you're ever a member of Twistys, download the 2 part video of Eve Angel with Puma Black. These two were two of my top 5 models. It was even a full video. Both started fully dressed, stripped each other, kissing, touching and this annoying as hell 8 second techno loop playing in the background. The worst part, it isn't the only Twistys older video with that same loop in it. A bunch of the older videos there have it. It was almost like it was their trademark song so you knew you were watching a Twistys video. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 07:36pm - 5298 days | #14 | |
|
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
You are right, of course, there are times when music is totally inappropriate, there are times when the music itself is inappropriate to what's being portrayed in a scene. And there is music that will bring back memories you don't want to associate with porn. However, I'm not talking generalities, exotics, I just want some music when it comes to a solo strip / masturbation scene because it simply seems unnatural and awkward to see a girl standing there swaying in complete silence ... except for manifestations of great excitement by her, something that is totally out of place because she has just started her sway and isn't even undressing or touching herself yet. Something is needed to cover up this embarrassing awkwardness. Not only that but as I have mentioned, the silence is made worse by the occasional interruption by the crackle and creaking of the photographer's adjustment of his equipment. Horrible .. eroticism goes totally out the window. | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 08:16pm - 5298 days | #15 | |
|
WeeWillyWinky (0)
Active User  Posts: 243 Registered: Jun 03, '07 Location: Havasu City, AZ USA |
I hereby confess to being one reviewer who considers music a negative when it comes to video, although I also admit that my tastes are strange to begin with and objectively I can appreciate that some folks would prefer music to heighten an erotic mood. In actual sex scenes, music never bothered me, back when I used to watch hardcore porn. In fact, it was usually a cue that something naughty was about to happen, so if anything it caused a positive reaction. I remember those funky bass lines and the steady rhythms, which mimicked the rhythms of copulation. In solo videos, however, I like the way In The Crack does things: just give me the girl and a nice clean environment, and all I want to hear are the sounds she makes: her shoes on the floor, the rustle of her clothes, the clink and tinkle of her jewelry, and various ambient sounds. I don't mind the sound of the equipment. It's usually just clicks and creaks here and there, though too much noise is a bother, I agree. My theory, which I put forth on another thread, is simply this: we have only two senses with which to interact with a woman on film: sight and sound. Smell, taste, and touch are not available (at least not yet  ). A music track interferes considerably with one of those senses, even when it's at low volume. A music track which completely obscures all other sound is the quickest way to get me to turn the video off. If there is music and you can still hear the model and the sounds she is generating, then I suppose that would be acceptable, though I still prefer no music. The silence promotes a sense of intimacy and proximity with the model, at least for me. I do concede that if a model is actually dancing, then there should be some soft music playing; but if she's just teasing and stripping, I prefer silence. It also comes down to the fact that while I'm a music lover and a lover of women, I see these pleasures as being quite distinct. I don't like background music of any kind. I don't like music as wallpaper. When I listen to music it receives my full attention, and I cannot tolerate any outside interruptions. If someone was to put the first movement of Mahler's Ninth Symphony as a track on some video featuring a beautiful girl undressing, I would end up ignoring the girl.  I never liked music playing whenever I was in bed with a woman. I love a good steak and I love chocolate ice-cream, but I don't want chocolate ice-cream on my steak. I guess that's how I feel about it. Let's not mention that the typical music track is not exactly chocolate ice-cream, but more like a stale Tootsie Roll.  You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! | |
|
||
| 06-21-10 10:34pm - 5297 days | #16 | |
|
graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
You suppose they're on something we don't know about? Edited on Jun 22, 2010, 01:47pm Edited by Staff on Jun 22, 2010, 05:48am (Khan: fixed quoteback) | |
|
||
| 06-22-10 12:17am - 5297 days | #17 | |
|
BadMrFrosty (0)
Active User Posts: 124 Registered: Mar 05, '10 Location: Prague (Czech Republic) |
I dont have a problem with music in a scene per se, it's just that every porn movie I have seen with music, the music has been complete trash. I guess it's the licensing issue, they dont want to pay out royalty fees and they also dont want to pay a half decent composer to come up with the tunes. The result is the utterly crap music usually done on a cheap synthesizer that instantly makes anyone with any appreciation of music instantly reach for the mute button. The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa | |
|
||
| 06-22-10 10:08am - 5297 days | #18 | |
|
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
LOL. I guess, just like me, you're not a multi-tasker, www. I have no quarrel whatever with your argument and agree with you in most points. Just want to point out that I was specifically referring to scenes that come suspiciously close to dancing and that is models standing while swaying from side to side while they prepare to undress. If a masturbation scene takes place on a bed or if the stripping is done gracefully without the swaying then music is not necessary or even desired. It would help cover up the creaks made by the photographer's equipment but that's not my biggest problem. So, in those cases, no music .. no big deal. | |
|
||
| 06-22-10 01:52pm - 5297 days | #19 | |
|
RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
The scenes I saved were all dancing, so the music was there and actually appropriate. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
|
||
| 06-22-10 05:54pm - 5297 days | #20 | |
|
PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Music when someone is dancing - yes Music when someone is fucking - no One of the best things about InFocusGirls is the sound quality they have - in their outdoor scenes, you have the wind, you have leaves stirring in the trees, you have birds, insects, and the model making all her little noises. To put some canned crap on top to cover up those sounds is the aural equivalent of doing Twisty-like photo treatment so you can see what the model really looks like. For a short time, ALS Scan was putting music in their vids and they'd paid significant money to get better than run-of-the-mill stuff, but the members hated it, being smart porn fans, and ALS Scan quickly ended the practice, being a smart porn site. | |
|
||
| 06-23-10 09:33am - 5296 days | #21 | |
|
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Agreed! | |
|
||
| 1-21 of 21 Posts | Page 1 |
| Thread Nav : Refresh Page | First Post | Last Post | Porn Forum Home |
|
