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12-21-11  11:27am - 4750 days #165
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What's that got to do with giraffes?


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12-21-11  02:58pm - 4750 days #166
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Originally Posted by Capn:


What's that got to do with giraffes?


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What ?? What ??

You never seen a donkey at the zoo, hence where the Giraffes are ?

Gees Capn, do I have to draw a map LOL

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12-21-11  03:11pm - 4750 days #167
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No...You won't get me to take this bag off my head until the Improbability Drive has been shut down & things have returned to what passes for normal.

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12-22-11  03:11am - 4749 days #168
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OK....

I think it is safe now...

To return to topic.

I have recently rejoined All Over 30

I don't know whether the content has been retuned slightly, or if it is just the fact I hadn't visited for quite a while, but there is a lot of on topic material here, as well as the harder material.

I am pleased I went back to take another look.

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12-22-11  10:11am - 4749 days #169
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Originally Posted by Capn:


OK....

I think it is safe now...

To return to topic.

I have recently rejoined All Over 30

I don't know whether the content has been retuned slightly, or if it is just the fact I hadn't visited for quite a while, but there is a lot of on topic material here, as well as the harder material.

I am pleased I went back to take another look.

Cap'n.


Welcome back, Cap'n. I rejoined myself recently and found all kinds of nice material but must confess that I've already mined it all and have quickly reached the stage where I have to depend on the daily updates.

Good thing they are hefty because even then I might only see one or two updates a week that really appeal to me. When it comes to the majority of sets or videos the ladies still forget to bring enough lingerie, or they are hardcore. Still the best mature site around, though!

12-24-11  10:18am - 4747 days #170
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Originally Posted by Capn:


OK....

I think it is safe now...

To return to topic.

I have recently rejoined All Over 30

I don't know whether the content has been retuned slightly, or if it is just the fact I hadn't visited for quite a while, but there is a lot of on topic material here, as well as the harder material.

I am pleased I went back to take another look.

Cap'n.



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12-27-11  05:25am - 4744 days #171
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I wonder what happened with Mistress Kent.

She said she was shooting some on topic stuff.

We haven't seen her around in quite a while.

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01-04-12  12:30am - 4737 days #172
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I am also into this strip tease fetish myself and have came across a great site for it. It is called Just Nips.com lots of exclusive content with tons of models for such a new site! If you have any questions I would be glad to answer.

01-04-12  08:59am - 4736 days #173
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Hmmm...okay.

I took a look at the tour.

What percentage of material goes to full nude, please?

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01-04-12  09:39am - 4736 days #174
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Hmmm...okay.

I took a look at the tour.

What percentage of material goes to full nude, please?

Cap'n.


I am still waiting to join and watching to see what others comment about. Since 2007

01-06-12  01:44am - 4734 days #175
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I still think that a striptease without full nudity at the end is just a con, and very irritating. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

01-06-12  07:40am - 4734 days #176
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How very true!

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01-06-12  09:01am - 4734 days #177
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I know we've spent ages in the past debating the whole softcore/midcore/hardcore thing (and I don't want to reopen that one just yet) but I think non-nude should be very clearly labelled as such - and topless doesn't count as nude. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

01-06-12  09:24am - 4734 days #178
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Yes, I am sure we all know a lot of sites & a few in particular that are very guilty of that.

As an aside, I did once come across a Tease review site.
It hasn't been updated in years, but it covered a wide range of sites, a lot of which are now defunct, but a few really obscure ones remain.
Bizarrely the reviewer seldom, if ever, mentioned whether full nudity was featured.
I would have thought it was a very important point for a tease review site.
When I emailed him about it, he replied it was too much bother to go back & do it.
It is a shame this site lost momentum, as it would be a useful resource if it were kept updated & additional important information put in.
Given that defunct sites are still up on there years after their demise, it obviously isn't going to happen.

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01-09-12  01:30am - 4731 days #179
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Firstly, thanks to all who have replied here and made some very good suggestions. Quite pleased I found a thread like this.

One of the sexiest and wonderful things in the world to see is a beautiful woman seductively dancing to music and stripping in the rhythm to reveal her gorgeous nude figure. You would think something so simple - putting some music on and getting hot models to strip to the music - would be something you could find easily on the interwebs. But man, it is HARD to find quality stuff.

OnlyTease has some pretty high quality, in terms of girls and resolution of their videos. But a few members before have mentioned that many of the girls don't get fully nude.

Some of the big glamour sites - Twistys, Digitaldesire - feature their models stripping but it's often a bit too slow for my taste and they're hardly dancing.

That said, there are two sites I'd suggest with what I consider pretty good striptease content:

Danni.com (to be more specific, hotbox.danni.com):
Featuring some pretty well-known softcore adult models, there's a WHOLE SECTION called "Virtual Lapdance". There's a number of good models in that section but in terms of overall sexiness, dancing motion and stripping allure, Zoe Britton in that section is fantastic.

FTV.com:
While the focus of FTV is to feature solo models in various states of "masturbation orgasm", some of the hotter models actually do strip-tease type dance videos and those are FREAKING hot. A shame it isn't a consistent part of each update for every girl on that site.

Honorable mentions: Cosmid.net has some amateur girls doing pretty nice striptease videos. While she's no longer doing updates for her site, Brittany Bod of Brittanysbod.com has a lot of striptease videos of her dancing and stripping.

Would really like to hear other websites that have a big focus on the art of striptease dancing.

01-09-12  08:59am - 4731 days #180
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I know that it's usually quite a lot cheaper to do a shoot where the models don't get nude. Depends on the models, but in my experience most charge more for nudity and a lot more for hardcore. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

01-09-12  10:18am - 4731 days #181
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I take it you are pretty much exclusively into video then, Nookie?

I much prefer the photosets, that is why the lack of full nudity & zip files currently makes Cosmid a no go for me.

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01-09-12  03:20pm - 4731 days #182
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Originally Posted by Capn:


I take it you are pretty much exclusively into video then, Nookie?

I much prefer the photosets, that is why the lack of full nudity & zip files currently makes Cosmid a no go for me.

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Hoi capn,

I'm also a fan of photo sets as well - but I think when it comes to the art of the "striptease", it's much more seductive to see videos as it allows you to see the natural beauty of those babes in actual motion. A lot of nude models look great in photosets, but often aren't quite as attractive when you see them in motion. But when you see a gorgeous model who knows how to user her sexuality to mesmerize you in her videos, that just makes them all the hotter!

Yeah, about half of Cosmid's stuff is non-nude.. but the other half, pretty tasty my friend.

01-09-12  11:32pm - 4731 days #183
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Just need the 'no zips' issue fixed then, & I might take another look.

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01-10-12  08:24am - 4730 days #184
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Welcome back, Cap'n. I rejoined myself recently and found all kinds of nice material but must confess that I've already mined it all and have quickly reached the stage where I have to depend on the daily updates.

Good thing they are hefty because even then I might only see one or two updates a week that really appeal to me. When it comes to the majority of sets or videos the ladies still forget to bring enough lingerie, or they are hardcore. Still the best mature site around, though!


Is the site worth joining ? was hoping to hear Pat chime in since e did the last review on this site. Fits my niche but how good is it ? Since 2007

01-10-12  09:12am - 4730 days #185
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It still has a tendency for providing a broad range of material, which has its plusses & minuses.
If you have never been a member before, you will probably find a substantial archive of material which appeals, CT.

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01-10-12  10:19am - 4730 days #186
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Originally Posted by Capn:


It still has a tendency for providing a broad range of material, which has its plusses & minuses.
If you have never been a member before, you will probably find a substantial archive of material which appeals, CT.

Cap'n.


Thanks Capn.
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01-13-12  03:56pm - 4727 days #187
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I have just been exchanging emails with a webmaster who has a pretty much on topic site & have invited him to participate here.

By a strange coincidence, he is also an Edd, but with a double d.

Yes, that is true.
No, this is not turning into the Cartoon Network!

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01-15-12  02:27am - 4725 days #188
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I think he must be shy!

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01-19-12  09:01pm - 4721 days #189
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maybe you are right.striptease is suite for live show.

01-22-12  07:14am - 4718 days #190
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There has to be an Eddie out there too! Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

01-22-12  03:14pm - 4718 days #191
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I'm sure there is....

Just have to get them to signup!

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01-24-12  01:28pm - 4716 days #192
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I try to be as clear as possible with the wording on my site - the idea now is to keep the outfits on but the models show everything. The good Capn knows this already

It started off as tease to topless but changed in 2009 to going further with open leg, US mag and continental levels.

Does full no-clothes nude include heels off aswell?

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01-24-12  02:39pm - 4716 days #193
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Well,Mitch, for me yes it does.
As you know, I am very much a purist when it comes to nudity.
Ideally even the jewelery has to be taken off.
I know that doesn't happen very often!

Folk that prefer hose & shoes left on do have a point, but for me, in the fullness of time, they should come off too.
Otherwise a potentially very erotic part of the strip is missed.

I have no objections to a slow strip, in fact I really prefer it, especially when it concludes with plenty of coy & more explicit full body nudity.

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01-24-12  03:17pm - 4716 days #194
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I thought it might Secretease.com - A 100% exclusive site for lovers of Sexy Executive Secretaries hard at flirt in short skirts, stockings, high heels, tight shirts and other sex-ecutive attire. More than a tease...

Secretease operates non-regional pricing.
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03-14-12  03:43pm - 4666 days #195
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I found some older Strip Teases in my old archives .
Its always worth taking a look in the basement LOL Since 2007

03-15-12  11:11am - 4665 days #196
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That is where I tend to spend most of my time.

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03-18-12  04:30am - 4662 days #197
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Honestly!

Over 20,000 views on this thread.

There IS a market out there, if only websites work work towards it!

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03-18-12  07:15am - 4662 days #198
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Its certainly a niche that needs to be covered much more, clothes are cool coming off, I hate them videos when they skip the girl from being clothed to been fully nude, I scream NOOO thats the best bit, the taking off the panties being my fav for obvious reasons but yeah stripping is very sexy when done right. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE

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Well A-M-O-C.com has been running striptease and other undressing themed content for years. If there is a market for that stuff I simply cannot find it. If it wasn't for my other site, A-M-O-C.com would have gone bust long ago. It's a shame, it's a really nice site and I love the theme, but I can't seem to sell it.

Basically if people don't buy memberships, I don't know there is any demand and I can't sensibly commit the budget required to produce new material on that theme.

I tried relaunching it a while back and spent a lot of money on it. That didn't work. I ended up with a much better site, but sales remained at the same slow dribble. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


Well A-M-O-C.com has been running striptease and other undressing themed content for years. If there is a market for that stuff I simply cannot find it. If it wasn't for my other site, A-M-O-C.com would have gone bust long ago. It's a shame, it's a really nice site and I love the theme, but I can't seem to sell it.

Basically if people don't buy memberships, I don't know there is any demand and I can't sensibly commit the budget required to produce new material on that theme.

I tried relaunching it a while back and spent a lot of money on it. That didn't work. I ended up with a much better site, but sales remained at the same slow dribble.


What if the emphasis were a bit more on eroticism and less on fun, Ed? And with that I don't mean hardcore! I just took the tour of AMOC again (love the frontal shot of Siselle in her panties) and for my taste (let me stress) it all seems too playful. I see the strip but not the tease.

I did not see any sultry, smouldering strips done in a bedroom by a lady who is getting ready for love making, as one example!

Neither did I see any nighties ... imagine this scenario (drool) a woman enters her bedroom, gets completely undressed and then puts on a flimsy, diaphanous nightgown ... man, a scene like that now and then and you'd have me! Ladies in camisoles would be nice too, so would ladies clad in garter belts.

But instead the tour presents me with, admittedly very attractive, women who get rid of their everyday clothes in a manner that was not very arousing to me.

At least that's what I got out of the tour.

But, lest you get distressed, let me say that I take the blame for that. I got stuck in the fifties-sixties, something no web owner can correct!

Something that has nothing to do with my personal taste but might stop some from joining is the fact that you mention 30 videos, but, taken together, they only give your subscribers two hours of viewing, according to your statistics. That's an average of four minutes per strip. Hardly enough for video lovers.

I hope you know me well enough by now through this forum that you will take my remarks in the spirit in which they were made.

I am not belittling your site, Ed .. simply once again wishing with a sigh that I could find something that appeals to my left-behind taste and hoping that I might give an aspiring webmaster with deep pockets a little push to take a chance on something a bit more retro, something that would take me back to a time when women still needed an hour to get ready to go out and ten minutes to get undressed.

I do wish you and your sites well.

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As a corrollary to my good friend M's reply, I would like to add the following constructive critique.

For my preferences, there is not enough solo material, both in length of set or numbers of sets for each model.

For me, it needs to be photoset material shot in horizontal format & mostly leaving discarded clothing inshot, which enhances the strip element of the photoset.

I like to see both formal & casual wear.
Say one formal set to every 2 casual.
To a large extent, I don't mind how many times I see a model, given that she is an attractive lady & is featured in a variety of real world outfits.

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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


Well A-M-O-C.com has been running striptease and other undressing themed content for years. If there is a market for that stuff I simply cannot find it. If it wasn't for my other site, A-M-O-C.com would have gone bust long ago. It's a shame, it's a really nice site and I love the theme, but I can't seem to sell it.

Basically if people don't buy memberships, I don't know there is any demand and I can't sensibly commit the budget required to produce new material on that theme.




This.

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Originally Posted by Capn:


For my preferences, there is not enough solo material, both in length of set or numbers of sets for each model.
...
To a large extent, I don't mind how many times I see a model, given that she is an attractive lady & is featured in a variety of real world outfits.


Long experience has repeatedly shown that solo stuff just does not sell. Over and over again a week with a solo set will perform badly against a week with a 2 or 3 girl photostory or similar.

I get far more requests for new models than to see any particular model appear again. I got complaints when Caley and Jasmine made their 4th and 5th appearances.

It seems that it's impossible to please even the majority in the stripping world. I would love it to work as I think it's got so much more potential, even after all this time, than StripGameCentral.com. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. Edited on Mar 19, 2012, 06:18am

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Originally Posted by EricArcher:


This.


Chicken Egg.

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03-18-12  02:02pm - 4662 days #205
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


Basically if people don't buy memberships, I don't know there is any demand and I can't sensibly commit the budget required to produce new material on that theme.


As I said in response to the informative 'This' quote.

It is a chicken & egg situation.

If the material is not there in the right format, memberships will not be bought.

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Let's say you found your ideal site. Can you describe exactly what you'd find there?

03-18-12  02:48pm - 4662 days #207
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Yes, I can.

Sure it is niche & a lot of enthusiasts for the genre do have differing preferences, but that said, there are general guidelines which will satisfy most.
Personally I am a still photo guy, but a lot of folk who prefer video fall into this niche too.

Firstly, it should be a complete, leisurely journey from fully clothed to full body nudity.
There are folk who like stockings & shoes left on & I do not object to that being covered fully, but if there is no progression to full nudity, a potentially very erotic part of the striptease is missed out.
Fully clothed should be covered for about one third of the set. This builds up anticipation nicely. Then the removal of each item should be covered including a tease delay until the next item is removed & so on for the second third of the set / video.
Horizontal format is so much more welcoming than the formal & distancing vertical format. It also fills modern widescreen monitors so much better.
I feel it is a good idea to leave discarded clothing inshot for most of the set as it emphasizes the striptease element.
The final third should be full nude, but coy & teasing at first leading to more explicit 'art nude' level material. I feel that any midcore toy use falls beyond the scope of a softcore striptease.

Thanks for asking.

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Edited on Mar 18, 2012, 02:51pm

03-18-12  03:07pm - 4662 days #208
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Be assured: your voice is heard. Loud and clear.

Question: if a set includes these aspects but then goes beyond them (say more explicit and with toys), does that ruin it for you? If so, why?

03-18-12  03:43pm - 4662 days #209
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Yes, it does really.

Firstly, it introduces a midcore element into what is otherwise an erotic softcore item.
It often destroys the 'tease' mood.

Secondly, where that does occur, often the toy use starts far too early & destroys the mood prior to any 'coy' & more explicit softcore full body nudity.

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03-18-12  03:52pm - 4662 days #210
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Originally Posted by Capn:


For me, it needs to be photoset material shot in horizontal format & mostly leaving discarded clothing inshot, which enhances the strip element of the photoset.
Cap'n.


OOPS .. before you start reading. I made a huge mistake by getting your "horizontal" mixed up with "portrait" style. So please ignore what's below!

Red faced messmer!!!

Capn, we are usually on the same wave length but I don't understand your reasoning when it comes to portrait vs. landscape format? Horizontal will fill a screen from top to bottom, but so will landscape if the model is shown large enough to "extend" from top to bottom. The added benefit with landscape is that the whole screen is filled, it may be with some extraneous scenery, or, if you wish, some discarded clothing. In any case you won't have those ugly black bars on either side of the picture (as in portrait) but instead a whole screen filled with esthetic wonder!

This was one of my earliest battles, getting webmasters and photographers to post more landscape format pictures in a given set because most people have widescreen monitors these days and that format fits their needs perfectly.

However, I've given up on that one in the meantime because most appear to prefer "portrait."

Oh, well, just saying! Edited on Mar 18, 2012, 03:59pm

03-18-12  04:21pm - 4662 days #211
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Yes, it does really.

Firstly, it introduces a midcore element into what is otherwise an erotic softcore item.
It often destroys the 'tease' mood.

Secondly, where that does occur, often the toy use starts far too early & destroys the mood prior to any 'coy' & more explicit softcore full body nudity.

Cap'n.


Like I said, your voice and opinion are heard loud and clear. As our site evolves we are tying new things--some work for some members and some clearly don't work for others. You mentioned that you have already cancelled your subscription to our site and we hate to see you go but I do appreciate your willingness to explain what you're looking for. As I look at the April calendar and beyond, there is a return to the earlier feel of the site on some of the updates--not all.

We have increased our frequency of updates to better accommodate the specific tastes of our members. Some sets will be soft and some will be more, as you say, "midcore". Maybe you'll check us out again in the future and you'll see some things you like.

03-18-12  04:33pm - 4662 days #212
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Thanks for your input, Eric.

What Tony has moved on to is in some ways more in keeping with the 'tease' approach, but like pretty well all of purely 'tease' sites there is no pay-off of clear full body nudity.

As so often happens, fans of this genre are falling down the gap between non-nude & midcore material.

There seems to be little 'art nude' level material that falls into this niche.

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03-18-12  04:54pm - 4662 days #213
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Like I said, I'm trying to incorporate both niches into the site.
There is definitely some new content coming that I think fits into your desired niche and some new content that will definitely not be your thing.

Thanks again for your input. Hearing feedback from members (and non-members for that matter) is really important to me so I can determine what is working and what is not.

03-18-12  04:57pm - 4662 days #214
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Thanks for your attention, Eric.

It is good to know there is somebody listening.

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