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02-22-10  07:06am - 5417 days Original Post - #1
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Olympics - hockey

CONGRATS to the US hockey team with the 5-3 against Canada - Now, who had expected that?
But: What a GREAT hockey match! And what a keeper, Miller for the US....

Hope for another one - A final: Canada-USA. "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

02-22-10  11:06am - 5417 days #2
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Very surprising result to me, I thought Canada was vastly superior to the US this year. Though the US and Canada men's teams might not play in the final - Russia has looked pretty good in the games I've seen, at least you can count on the Canada/US women's teams playing in the final! Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars.
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02-22-10  03:27pm - 5417 days #3
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I honestly don't see why this is such a surprise. Granted Canada does have the better lineup but both teams are nothing but NHL players. I even heard some commentators trying to compare it to the Miracle on Ice, which I don't even see at all possible. Then it was a USA team full of college players versus pros.

Not saying I expected it or anything but when your goalie stands on his head like that, it's hard to lose. LOL

02-23-10  04:24am - 5416 days #4
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Miracle on Ice it was not.
It was a big win for team USA and they beat a superior team, but they will have to play better than they did to medal.

02-23-10  05:37am - 5416 days #5
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Originally Posted by james4096:


Miracle on Ice it was not.
It was a big win for team USA and they beat a superior team, but they will have to play better than they did to medal.


Agree: The canadians were superior and USA can thank Ryan Miller - but like the fine swedish commentators at Swedish national TV said: It was a fantastic game to watch - great hockey! (Danish TV does not have pro commentators - I mean calling a puck a ball, jeeez - so here in Scandinavia we go to swedish television - just a curiosity). "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

02-23-10  12:42pm - 5416 days #6
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Actually, we already got the Canada vs. US hockey final ... in womens hockey. Should be a good game with the only real power houses in that sport matching up. Heaven would be a US vs. Canada mens final too although I'm thinking the outcome would probably be reversed from the first meeting.

02-28-10  12:02pm - 5411 days #7
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Well, despite the fact that I said I wouldn't watch the Olympics I think I'll watch the U.S. - Canada game coming on in a few minutes! :-)

Nothing to do with hockey but can someone enlighten me when it comes to the overall standings. In my youth 1st Place was established by how many gold medals a country won. I see in some places it's still done that way:

http://www.olympiade-infos.de/olympische...t-page-1/#comment-20

while on this continent our media just take a total count of all the medals and determine first place by that. I kept telling my wife this was wrong and that a gold medal had to count for more than a bronze, that's why I went to a German site to see how other countries do it.

So what will be entered into the official Olympic record?

Is Canada first, Germany, second and the U.S. third or will this Olympics end up with U.S. first, Germany second and Canada third? I'm not being nationalistic about this, simply curious.

02-28-10  06:20pm - 5411 days #8
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There was a big controversy last week in the Canadian Newspapers and on TV because of our "Own the podium" program this year. We were way below what we expected to have at that time. If they gave medals for 4th place then we would be way ahead of most Countries. Final count after today's win over the US is 26 medals, 14 of which are Gold. I guess we could change the program to "Own the Golden podium". Thank God for women because the bulk of our medlas is from Canadian females athletes. I'm probably in a minority but I tend to look at the Olympics as the best athletes of one Country competing against the best of another. Win or lose you are still the best your Country has produced. Yes losing isn't fun, but than again not particiapting can't be high either. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-01-10  01:15am - 5410 days #9
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well, I guess the game came on too early to not conflict with my sunday nap so I missed it.

Too bad. Seems like it was a good game.

03-01-10  09:12am - 5410 days #10
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Originally Posted by pat362:


There was a big controversy last week in the Canadian Newspapers and on TV because of our "Own the podium" program this year. We were way below what we expected to have at that time. If they gave medals for 4th place then we would be way ahead of most Countries. Final count after today's win over the US is 26 medals, 14 of which are Gold. I guess we could change the program to "Own the Golden podium". Thank God for women because the bulk of our medlas is from Canadian females athletes. I'm probably in a minority but I tend to look at the Olympics as the best athletes of one Country competing against the best of another. Win or lose you are still the best your Country has produced. Yes losing isn't fun, but than again not particiapting can't be high either.


Naming the program "Own The Podium" was a stupid move. The British, and possibly other countries' media as well, had a field day with it. Why didn't they name it: "Strive for excellence" or something like that? In any case, we ended up watching more than we had planned and had a good time.

Thank God for CTV because NBC did its usual lousy job of covering the Olympics. And no one has answered my question yet: what's the proper way of determining the standings. :-)

03-01-10  06:06pm - 5410 days #11
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Hi messmer, pretty obviously it's golds first. That's how we do it in the UK and I think it's the same for Europe. Of course we don't win any golds in this country, unless they manage to sneak in an event that no one competes in, so it's a moot point for us. But as an objective observer the country that wins the most golds should be at the top of the table. On the BBC they were remarking how well the Canadians had done. Kerrin Lee-Gartner was a big part of the commentary team, and I enjoyed her contributions. The Ice Hockey was rivetting and it was nice to see the Canadians win. Maybe it's some compensation for not winning the Stanley Cup 999 times out of the last 1000. Anyway in answer to the question - yes, it's a no brainer, position on the table is determined by most golds. Well done Canada, I hated the comments from the British press, and thought it was one of the most entertaining Winter Olympics. I had no real reason to leave my chair apart from the obvious ones - eating and sleeping. Apart from that it was Olympics Olympics Olympics. What am I going to do now it's over? Porn seems so boring in comparison. The one drawback was my partner. Had to get her tucked up in bed early so I could get my six to eight hours in - of watching Olympics. Edited on Mar 01, 2010, 06:13pm

03-01-10  06:36pm - 5410 days #12
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The local sports news station was commenting on the excellence of CTV's broadcast. I agree with you that they did an excellent job. I can't say how well NBC did because I didn't watch a minute of it.

I don't really care if we stay in third position because it will be at least 4 more years before anyone has a chance to get more than 14 gold medals and since it's so rare than Canada might have that hnnor for many years to come. That should give us some bragging rights in future Olympics. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-02-10  09:01am - 5409 days #13
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Hi messmer, pretty obviously it's golds first. That's how we do it in the UK and I think it's the same for Europe. Of course we don't win any golds in this country, unless they manage to sneak in an event that no one competes in, so it's a moot point for us. But as an objective observer the country that wins the most golds should be at the top of the table. On the BBC they were remarking how well the Canadians had done. Kerrin Lee-Gartner was a big part of the commentary team, and I enjoyed her contributions. The Ice Hockey was rivetting and it was nice to see the Canadians win. Maybe it's some compensation for not winning the Stanley Cup 999 times out of the last 1000. Anyway in answer to the question - yes, it's a no brainer, position on the table is determined by most golds. Well done Canada, I hated the comments from the British press, and thought it was one of the most entertaining Winter Olympics. I had no real reason to leave my chair apart from the obvious ones - eating and sleeping. Apart from that it was Olympics Olympics Olympics. What am I going to do now it's over? Porn seems so boring in comparison. The one drawback was my partner. Had to get her tucked up in bed early so I could get my six to eight hours in - of watching Olympics.


Hi Squirrel, thanks for agreeing with me. I am a transplanted European and I simply felt that it devalues a gold medal if all medals are treated equal (as the media do in this country when it comes to the standings). A country with a mitt full of bronze medals and not a single gold could theoretically end up in first place in the U.S. and Canada.

03-02-10  09:16am - 5409 days #14
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Originally Posted by pat362:


The local sports news station was commenting on the excellence of CTV's broadcast. I agree with you that they did an excellent job. I can't say how well NBC did because I didn't watch a minute of it.

I don't really care if we stay in third position because it will be at least 4 more years before anyone has a chance to get more than 14 gold medals and since it's so rare than Canada might have that hnnor for many years to come. That should give us some bragging rights in future Olympics.


Hi Pat, someone might look at my reaction as a bit of overblown nationalism, but as I wrote earlier (and Squirrel confirmed it), Gold HAS to count for more than silver and bronze and most other countries rate the standings accordingly, giving Gold so and so many points, silver so and so many points, bronze so and so many points and then add the whole thing up. Lumping all medals together devalues a Gold medal. That's why Canada ended up in first place everywhere but in NA.

I am not crowing about it, as a matter of fact I hate patriotic crowing it goes against my grain, but it is a fact recognized by pretty well everyone and I am embarrassed for the North American media that they are so dumb when it comes to something as important in sports as establishing Olympic standings.

And CTV did do an outstanding job and really drew us into watching, way more than we had planned on doing when I first wrote my dejected post about not wanting to watch the Olympics any more.

03-02-10  09:17am - 5409 days #15
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Apart from a lot of speculations, the final was still one of the best hockey-games, I've seen for years....
Two top-pro teams in a match that made us all forget everything else - it was a pleasure.
It would be a shame if NHL will keep their players from joining the next Olympics OR the next WM... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

03-02-10  09:23am - 5409 days #16
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Apart from a lot of speculations, the final was still one of the best hockey-games, I've seen for years....
Two top-pro teams in a match that made us all forget everything else - it was a pleasure.
It would be a shame if NHL will keep their players from joining the next Olympics OR the next WM...


I was afraid of either suffering a stroke or a heart attack, the game was so good, Denner. Please, support me in this (if you read my posts): How did your media rank Canada's final standing in the Olympics. Nr. 1 or Nr. 3? This is not about bragging rights, I simply feel that our media use the wrong criteria when it comes to determining the standings.

03-02-10  07:49pm - 5409 days #17
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Hi Pat, someone might look at my reaction as a bit of overblown nationalism, but as I wrote earlier (and Squirrel confirmed it), Gold HAS to count for more than silver and bronze and most other countries rate the standings accordingly, giving Gold so and so many points, silver so and so many points, bronze so and so many points and then add the whole thing up. Lumping all medals together devalues a Gold medal. That's why Canada ended up in first place everywhere but in NA.

I am not crowing about it, as a matter of fact I hate patriotic crowing it goes against my grain, but it is a fact recognized by pretty well everyone and I am embarrassed for the North American media that they are so dumb when it comes to something as important in sports as establishing Olympic standings.

And CTV did do an outstanding job and really drew us into watching, way more than we had planned on doing when I first wrote my dejected post about not wanting to watch the Olympics any more.


I don't think your reaction was overblown. We should feel enormous amount of pride in how our athletes performed before, during and after each of their performances.

You often hear people say that it's not whether you win or lose but how you play the game. Well we can be proud that our Athletes proved that theory.

It is pretty Canadian of us not to make a fuss about the medal standing. Of course, since we are, for the next 4 years, the Country to beat then we can be magnanimous with our Neighbors all over the world. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-03-10  06:12am - 5408 days #18
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I was afraid of either suffering a stroke or a heart attack, the game was so good, Denner. Please, support me in this (if you read my posts): How did your media rank Canada's final standing in the Olympics. Nr. 1 or Nr. 3? This is not about bragging rights, I simply feel that our media use the wrong criteria when it comes to determining the standings.


Yes, messmer - me to - jumped up and down from the couch - it was wild! (and that crazy goal 3-2 by Crosby, wauw!!) Been staying up for nights - because of time-difference most game here was on middle of the night/early mornings - but do not mind missing my sleep when hockey like this is on...

At first our so called experts at national TV in Denmark said: Oh, do not think the canadians can handle the russians - bullocks - that 7-3 game was maybe even more entertaining - I went crazy and shouted around the house, so much, that my wife got out of bed to see what was happening...man, I loved that game. And want to see rerun after rerun...

After that victory our media said about the final: 'This is going to be close' - first right thing they said about the OL-hockey.
BUT I always turn to swedish TV when watching hockey - they are MUCH more professional - and they said, too: 'It's going to be close, but Canada will win this final'

And oh, yes: Great Congrats to Canada - the best team...still US put up a hell of a fight and great hockey - we'll really look out for that Patrick Kane...man, can he play the game! (bully or not....)

Raise hell in Canada and USA - and get the NHL to put up players for the next WM! - and, of course for the next OL in Russia.
BTW: Was not entirely wrong with my first input here: Final: Canada-USA -- brag, brag, brag....(ho, ho, ho). "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Mar 03, 2010, 07:47am

03-03-10  11:07am - 5408 days #19
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Yes, messmer - me to - jumped up and down from the couch - it was wild! (and that crazy goal 3-2 by Crosby, wauw!!) Been staying up for nights - because of time-difference most game here was on middle of the night/early mornings - but do not mind missing my sleep when hockey like this is on...


You'd make a good Canadian, Denner! :-) BTW, Crosby's family lives only 10 Kilometers from my place. They had a great time celebrating in Cole Harbour, NS.

Originally Posted by Denner:

BTW: Was not entirely wrong with my first input here: Final: Canada-USA -- brag, brag, brag....(ho, ho, ho).


Congratulations, you were indeed right! I am ashamed to admit it but I had my doubts at the end of the third period. Edited by Staff on Mar 04, 2010, 12:16pm

03-04-10  08:08am - 5407 days #20
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You'd make a good Canadian, Denner! :-) BTW, Crosby's family lives only 10 Kilometers from my place. They had a great time celebrating in Cole Harbour, NS.




Your're too kind, messmer - but well, we people used to living in a cold, northern climate - what's an Atlantic Ocean between our people...? "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited by Staff on Mar 04, 2010, 12:15pm (Khan: fixed quote-back)

03-04-10  08:34pm - 5407 days #21
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Your're too kind, messmer - but well, we people used to living in a cold, northern climate - what's an Atlantic Ocean between our people...?


I'll second messmer's thought and say that you'd make a good Canadian. The cold climate tends to bring people together. There is nothing like sharing a nice warm fire with people after you froze your ass off at minus 30° C Long live the Brown Coats.

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