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01-16-14  01:44pm - 3955 days Original Post - #1
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Is anyone using Windows 8?

I just bought a new computer with Windows 8 as the operating system and am being swamped by pop ups even though Firefox is configured to stop all of them. Anyone have similar problems and how did you get rid of them?

01-16-14  02:37pm - 3955 days #2
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No! I refuse to touch my screen - it's filthy!! If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

01-16-14  03:53pm - 3955 days #3
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No, brother ...... but keep us posted on further problems you might incur so some others of us will stay with what they have.

01-16-14  06:49pm - 3955 days #4
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Originally Posted by graymane:


No, brother ...... but keep us posted on further problems you might incur so some others of us will stay with what they have.


Believe me, I did NOT want Windows 8 but that's all they had in the store. I don't know if it's a new Windows default or not but I am really being bombarded by ads ... and by reputable companies (Amazon etc.) too. It seems that all of them not only by-pass Firefox' attempts to control them but they even pop up on my desk top if it is idle for a few moments. I have tried to find something under the Windows 8 defaults but haven't found it yet. Oh, well, they seem harmless enough, just a nuisance.

01-16-14  06:51pm - 3955 days #5
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


No! I refuse to touch my screen - it's filthy!!


How come? Or dare I ask, JB?

01-16-14  10:31pm - 3955 days #6
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Just occurred to me.... ever thought of purchasing a software that's primarily geared to knock those suckers on their collective asses.
My virus software keeps all of them out. Although I wouldn't recommend them because of some mean issues they've saddled me with.

01-17-14  12:17am - 3955 days #7
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I have Windows 8 too. Absolutely despise it. The first day I used it, I said this at least 30 times, "Where is the damn start button?" I didn't get the touchscreen laptop though, same reasons as JB. Wait until you get the 8.1 update. It leads to more frustration, "Oh there's the start button just when I was getting used to not having a start button".

Really, I'm being a bit hard on it. It is fast though I hate the "apps".

On the ads, I really don't know off the top of my head. I had a lot of HP pop-up crap when I first got it, so I just removed all the HP software from the hard drive and fixed that, but I then started getting more pop-ups that included surveys. Found that problem was caused by a software called "Relevant Knowledge". Which I guess came installed on my laptop. Have you downloaded anything from CNet downloads? I download a lot of software from them and they've for whatever reason (money), decided to put extra software in the package you download and are using porn site level trickery to get you to install those other software programs.

For example, I downloaded a music editing software from CNet, it came with an installer. When I opened it, it said, Basic installation (recommended)
Custom intallation

I clicked custom which let me deselect a box that said, "Allow toolbar and search to be changed" or something like that. So I got around step one of the trickery. Then step 2 popped up, "Would you like to install something something candy". This is where the frustration came in. At the bottom, the only choices are "Accept" and "Decline". Traditionally when you click decline when setting up a new software it means you don't want the software and installation stops. In this case, clicking decline just meant I didn't want this advertised software and let me move on to step 3 which was once again an offer of another software. I believe I had to click decline 4 times before it finally installed the software I had downloaded.

I mention this possibility since you got a new computer and I know when I get a new computer, I have to start putting media players, music editors and so on, on it and thought maybe they had tricked you. I wouldn't think that if it hadn't happened to me 2 times.

I ran malewarebytes (free) and it found several "pup" software programs. Once those were removed the ads stopped. Though it also could be something the maker of the computer put on it at the factory. Check your control panel and see if anything possibly unwanted is installed. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

01-17-14  01:13am - 3955 days #8
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I use Windows 8 (Now on 8.1) and it works great. Popups have nothing to do with Windows, they would be from other software on your PC.

You can upgrade to Windows 8.1 for free and boot directly to the Desktop bypassing the start menu screen entirely if it bothers you.

01-17-14  09:04am - 3954 days #9
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I use Firefox and an addon I found called NoScript. While it really helps in limiting popups, it isn't seamless and takes a bit of managing, it's the best I've found for controlling crap - especially if I go to a squishy site I've not visited before and protects me from them running vicious scripts up my computer's ass.

This is not an unconditional recommendation - you can try it out and see if you are okay with it. Freeware with begging. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

01-17-14  11:39am - 3954 days #10
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


I have Windows 8 too. Absolutely despise it. The first day I used it, I said this at least 30 times, "Where is the damn start button?" I didn't get the touchscreen laptop though, same reasons as JB. Wait until you get the 8.1 update. It leads to more frustration, "Oh there's the start button just when I was getting used to not having a start button".

Really, I'm being a bit hard on it. It is fast though I hate the "apps".

On the ads, I really don't know off the top of my head. I had a lot of HP pop-up crap when I first got it, so I just removed all the HP software from the hard drive and fixed that, but I then started getting more pop-ups that included surveys. Found that problem was caused by a software called "Relevant Knowledge". Which I guess came installed on my laptop. Have you downloaded anything from CNet downloads? I download a lot of software from them and they've for whatever reason (money), decided to put extra software in the package you download and are using porn site level trickery to get you to install those other software programs.

For example, I downloaded a music editing software from CNet, it came with an installer. When I opened it, it said, Basic installation (recommended)
Custom intallation

I clicked custom which let me deselect a box that said, "Allow toolbar and search to be changed" or something like that. So I got around step one of the trickery. Then step 2 popped up, "Would you like to install something something candy". This is where the frustration came in. At the bottom, the only choices are "Accept" and "Decline". Traditionally when you click decline when setting up a new software it means you don't want the software and installation stops. In this case, clicking decline just meant I didn't want this advertised software and let me move on to step 3 which was once again an offer of another software. I believe I had to click decline 4 times before it finally installed the software I had downloaded.

I mention this possibility since you got a new computer and I know when I get a new computer, I have to start putting media players, music editors and so on, on it and thought maybe they had tricked you. I wouldn't think that if it hadn't happened to me 2 times.

I ran malewarebytes (free) and it found several "pup" software programs. Once those were removed the ads stopped. Though it also could be something the maker of the computer put on it at the factory. Check your control panel and see if anything possibly unwanted is installed.


Thanks, exotics. I uninstalled most HP (not needed) software and am getting far fewer pop-ups. I am going to check to see how many more programmes I can find that might contribute to the problem. I have Windows 8.1. It came pre-installed. What a learning curve if you don't believe in reading owners' manuals. There is nothing intuitive about this OS!!

01-17-14  11:45am - 3954 days #11
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Originally Posted by wackyphill:


I use Windows 8 (Now on 8.1) and it works great. Popups have nothing to do with Windows, they would be from other software on your PC.

You can upgrade to Windows 8.1 for free and boot directly to the Desktop bypassing the start menu screen entirely if it bothers you.


How do you boot directly to the Desk top? I do have Windows 8.1, it came pre-installed. Thanks. I have another question directed to you and other knowledgeable PUs: Is "Windows Defender" sufficient when it comes to protection or should I download AVG (or Norton etc.) again.

01-17-14  11:46am - 3954 days #12
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


I use Firefox and an addon I found called NoScript. While it really helps in limiting popups, it isn't seamless and takes a bit of managing, it's the best I've found for controlling crap - especially if I go to a squishy site I've not visited before and protects me from them running vicious scripts up my computer's ass.

This is not an unconditional recommendation - you can try it out and see if you are okay with it. Freeware with begging.


I used "noscript" in my previous computer, JB, but could not get myself to like it. It limited the enjoyment of my browsing too much.

01-17-14  12:10pm - 3954 days #13
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I figure everyone by now knows the Microcrap Rule: Only every other operating system works well. Windows 95 was great / Windows 98 only so-so - XP was awesome / Vista, well we know how that turned out - Windows 7 (which I use) works well / Windows 8 .... you know the rest.

I also don't really understand why HP does all this crap to their computers. I also got an HP laptop and it came loaded with a bunch of worthless programs that just generated popups and demands for updates. If you're completely clueless about computers this software might have some value but if you're just trying to get stuff done with real software then it's pointless. Like Exotics I just deleted the HP stuff or permanently shut it down and made my life easier.

01-17-14  01:00pm - 3954 days #14
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I was getting a lot of popups on my old XP and the final solution was returning to my default settings on my Mazilla Firefox. I don't know why they started and they came from every direction faster then I could close them. I tried everything until changing to default cured it. Warning Will Robinson

01-17-14  01:14pm - 3954 days #15
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


I figure everyone by now knows the Microcrap Rule: Only every other operating system works well. Windows 95 was great / Windows 98 only so-so - XP was awesome / Vista, well we know how that turned out - Windows 7 (which I use) works well / Windows 8 .... you know the rest.

I also don't really understand why HP does all this crap to their computers. I also got an HP laptop and it came loaded with a bunch of worthless programs that just generated popups and demands for updates. If you're completely clueless about computers this software might have some value but if you're just trying to get stuff done with real software then it's pointless. Like Exotics I just deleted the HP stuff or permanently shut it down and made my life easier.


I agree. At the moment I am in the process of removing all unnecessary HP programs and trial ware!

01-17-14  01:18pm - 3954 days #16
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Originally Posted by biker:


I was getting a lot of popups on my old XP and the final solution was returning to my default settings on my Mazilla Firefox. I don't know why they started and they came from every direction faster then I could close them. I tried everything until changing to default cured it.


In the Firefox I downloaded for Windows 8.1 "block pop-ups" was set as the default. I started doing some house cleaning by removing all extraneous stuff that came with my HP desktop. Maybe that will help!

Help! Adult Friend Finder is, all of a sudden, following me from site to site! Even this one! I scanned my computer just a couple of minutes ago and it didn't find any little bots that could give me a hard time. How did I acquire this site? I've never gone there .. ever. Edited on Jan 17, 2014, 01:28pm

01-17-14  01:52pm - 3954 days #17
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You never know what tasty treat is waiting for you on Adult Friend Finder.

Sorry. Couldn't contain myself.

I have been riddled by AFF on and off for years. I'm surprised you have just seen them.

When I was saturated with popups it wasn't just porn. The popups wanted me to buy anything from TV's to toilet paper or the "You're the Lucky Winner". Warning Will Robinson Edited on Jan 17, 2014, 02:04pm

01-17-14  02:26pm - 3954 days #18
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Originally Posted by biker:


You never know what tasty treat is waiting for you on Adult Friend Finder.

Sorry. Couldn't contain myself.

I have been riddled by AFF on and off for years. I'm surprised you have just seen them.

When I was saturated with popups it wasn't just porn. The popups wanted me to buy anything from TV's to toilet paper or the "You're the Lucky Winner".


Oh yeah!! The "lucky winner" is huge at the moment. It seems every time I open an old familiar site I am a lucky winner if only I complete a survey!!! Now if only someone could tell me how to turn the darn things off. It never happened with Windows 7.

01-17-14  03:33pm - 3954 days #19
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I used "noscript" in my previous computer, JB, but could not get myself to like it. It limited the enjoyment of my browsing too much.


I totally understand Messmer - I find it bulky and a pain sometimes. I will disable it sometimes when I want it to STOP.

But I do find it interesting that once you hit the "Temp allow all this page" how many more scripts are available than prior that permission.

The truly difficult part is getting into what permissions you can permanently use or deny (such google analitics) and still get to the point in the page that it will reveal what you actually came for. It seems that so much of scripting is predicated on other permissions. I probably need to force myself so learn more how to make it work a little less painfully, though at the moment my attention span is a little on the "not very long" side. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

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01-17-14  05:14pm - 3954 days #20
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Microsoft is a software company. Software is what they do. The only catch is this: They don't know what they're doing. It's nothing new.

They allowed their OS to be vulnerable to malware (viruses and worms) until the problem got so bad that they HAD to do something about it. That was several years ago.

They refused for years and years to write a web-standards-compliant IE until their share of browser use dropped from 80-something % to 12-16%.

Microsoft Word is still full of pitfalls for the average user who would just like to be able to get work done and not fool around with formatting problems with tables and lists and capital letters and so on.

I could go on, but I believe it's clear that Microsoft is almost as arrogant as it is incompetent. Windows 8 is just another example of their incredibly poor judgement. Its users are paying the price for the company trying to get a into the tablet market -- late in the game, as usual, as was the case with game boxes, web search engines, and smart phones. Bing, anyone? Zune? Maybe Xbox ...

And I would not say that Windows 7 is "good." It's better than Vista, so I hear, as I avoided that one completely. It's better than 8 ... same reason. But "good"? I can't call a system that leads me into frustration on an almost daily basis "good." "Fair" might make it on better days. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jan 17, 2014, 05:24pm

01-18-14  01:00am - 3954 days #21
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


I could go on, but I believe it's clear that Microsoft is almost as arrogant as it is incompetent. Windows 8 is just another example of their incredibly poor judgement. Its users are paying the price for the company trying to get a into the tablet market -- late in the game, as usual, as was the case with game boxes, web search engines, and smart phones. Bing, anyone? Zune? Maybe Xbox ...


Though I agree MS makes a whole pile of terrible products - to me Word is definitely their worst, it continues to seemingly get worse and worse, I just don't understand it - but believe it or not I really like the Zune, it was half the price of a comparable Apple product, is quite reliable (I have had it 5 years), has significantly better sound than an iPod, I just think MS screwed up the rollout - should have tied it into xbox earlier and released it much earlier.

Personally, I couldn't stand Win8 and rolled back to 7, I could see it being handy for those with a touch screen, or who run very few programs, but I found it clunky and annoying, it always took me twice as long to find and run the program I wanted.

All the major computer manufacturers put a lot of crapware on their computers (I have a Dell, and it is just as bad, if not worse than HP), which is why I usually give the OS a fresh install as soon as I get a new computer. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars.
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01-18-14  06:36am - 3953 days #22
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I had 8 went back to 7, have you tried binging your issues.
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01-21-14  08:08pm - 3950 days #23
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I have occasional pop-ups but the pop-unders are the most annoying. I will have a string of sites loaded and will hear voices from my headset sitting on the desk. Several sites down in the stack is a window or three that I never opened, with Ron Jeremy offering to give me a dick just like his, or a lady who can be at my house in 12 minutes to fulfill all my needs, or a notification that the FBI has just locked my browser and needs payment of a fine of several hundreds of dollars in bitcoin, or the pop-ups that ask me if I'm sure I want to leave this page and then refuses to hear my answer.

I'm going to get that typewriter out of the attic unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck.

01-25-14  12:05pm - 3946 days #24
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I run 8 on my laptop. I despise it! If I had wanted an I-Phone I would have bought an I-Phone. I just don't understand why a company with 80% of the market would work so hard to emulate a company with 15% of it.

I am hoping the next installment of Windows is much better, but we shall see. There is never any telling with Microsoft. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

01-25-14  03:27pm - 3946 days #25
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Windows 8.1 Users: Right-click a blank spot on your taskbar & choose properties.

Click the Navigation tab.

Under Start screen check the 1st option: "When I sign in or close all apps on a screen, go to the desktop instead of Start"

Also sometimes people are unaware that you can right-click the "start button" to get a menu of useful commands giving quick access to many of the things you may have done thru the traditional start menu before.

Windows Defender is quite good. You're likely fine with it and its much less taxing on a machine than 3rd party AV software. Edited on Jan 25, 2014, 03:37pm

01-25-14  06:34pm - 3946 days #26
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Originally Posted by Micha:


I have occasional pop-ups but the pop-unders are the most annoying. I will have a string of sites loaded and will hear voices from my headset sitting on the desk. Several sites down in the stack is a window or three that I never opened, with Ron Jeremy offering to give me a dick just like his, or a lady who can be at my house in 12 minutes to fulfill all my needs, or a notification that the FBI has just locked my browser and needs payment of a fine of several hundreds of dollars in bitcoin, or the pop-ups that ask me if I'm sure I want to leave this page and then refuses to hear my answer.

I'm going to get that typewriter out of the attic


This (above) is an example of how good can come from bad. Windows = bad; above post = hilarious! And I can definitely relate.

BTW, you'd have to sneeze on a typewriter for it to get a virus, and it never makes you wait while it downloads and installs updates that will "improve" its overall performance, which with Win-Doze is like decorating the town dump with pink flamingos.

Win-Doze is excellent proof that you need neither socialism nor communism for everyone to wind up having no choice but to use inferior products. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jan 25, 2014, 06:38pm

01-25-14  09:34pm - 3946 days #27
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


This (above) is an example of how good can come from bad. Windows = bad; above post = hilarious! And I can definitely relate.


I'll give some credit to Bill Gates for using his vast, vast wealth to start a decent nonprofit organization that actually does charitable work. So many rich assholes have used their money simply to buy politicians and elections--aka "free speech" --that one of the world's best known billionaires using some of his fortune to actually try and help people almost, almost, makes up for all the stress and frustration his Windows products have caused over the years.

Don't get me wrong; I love my two Apple computers, and they are quite easy to use (including its version of Office ), but Jobs was never the philanthropist of Gates. And no number of Foxconn-installed suicide nets will change that.

Originally Posted by Drooler:


Win-Doze is excellent proof that you need neither socialism nor communism for everyone to wind up having no choice but to use inferior products.


Nope, you only need the tyranny of a corporate overlord!

Still, saying Microsoft constituted a monopoly because of the dominance of its shitty browser still doesn't quite make it the Bond villain we all like to accuse it of being. (Though their red rings and blue screens of death sometimes made me wish I had a license to kill! ) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

01-26-14  11:33pm - 3945 days #28
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If you dont like windows 8, you can try install a 3rd party start menu.

http://startisback.com/

Startisback is what i use at work for our windows 8/8.1 workstations & laptops. Every windows 8 image get's deployed with startisback.

01-27-14  10:59am - 3944 days #29
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And if it makes anyone feel better, here's a quote from Douglas Adams (The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy) that some of you were probably already thinking of:

"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armor to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place."

"It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

02-10-14  04:47pm - 3930 days #30
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Install noscript/adblock addon and you shoudn't have that problem anymore

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