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05-06-18  10:14am - 2422 days Original Post - #1
rearadmiral (0)
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Need help with a dead external drive

I plugged in an external drive on Friday and an issue occurred. I was downloading a scene and it seems like something went wrong. I don’t know if it was the software or the hardware. I tried ejecting the drive and that didn’t work and I couldn’t even reboot the computer so I had to do a hard shutdown. Once I rebooted the computer the drive won’t work at all.

When I plug the drive in it doesn’t read at all even though the sound that Windows makes when a drive gets plugged in says that it knows something was plugged in. I’ve used Device Manager and the tool for partitioning a disk and the drive isn’t visible at all. I’ve searched a few things on the internet and none of them work.

Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this? I should add that the most important thing is that I have not lost any data. I back up my entire collection and data loss isn’t an issue. The external drive isn’t all that old and I assume that if I could reformat it it should work again but I can’t even do that.

I’ve tried different USB ports and even tried it on different computers and nothing works.

Any advice? Is the drive shot or could it be salvaged?

Thanks!

05-06-18  10:37am - 2422 days #2
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Sorry, but I can't offer a solution. It seems like you tried everything I would have tried. The good news is that you have a backup, something I stupidly didn't have when 3 of my 4 drives failed at once.

However, if it's from a major manufacturer, i.e., Western Digital, the warranty is generally 2 years or more. Regardless, I would contact the manufacturer.

05-06-18  07:03pm - 2422 days #3
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If the drive manufacturer requests you send them the drive for a replacement drive:

-The most important consideration: If you have stored porn on the drive (which you seem to have done), it's better to just junk the drive.
Even if the porn was legal when you downloaded it, which it almost certainly was:
Do you want to risk any potential legal problems about shipping your drive to a third party?

I've read where the FBI has paid Best Buy employees to check on whether computers (and computer accessories) have illegal porn.

Even if the porn was deleted from the hard drive, the Best Buy employees were taught to search for deleted porn.

And I read about one case, years ago, where a man was arrested and tried in court for one or more images that had been deleted from his hard drive.

This can be done without a search warrant.
Without any written permission from the owner of the computer/hardware.

You are in Canada.
So the laws are different from US laws.

But I would just destroy/junk the hard drive, rather than risk any potential legal problems about shipping a hard drive that had ever been used for porn to a third party.

Less important:
-Will the drive manufacturer make you pay shipping cost of drive to the manufacturer?
-Your warranty on the replacement drive will be pro-rated for the time you owned the failed drive.

My opinion: junk/destroy the failed drive. Why risk potential legal problems that could mess you up more than you would believe? Edited on May 06, 2018, 07:18pm

05-06-18  07:27pm - 2422 days #4
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New York Post

FBI paid Best Buy ‘informants’ to search customers’ computers for kiddie porn

By Lia Eustachewich

March 7, 2018 | 3:03pm | Updated



The FBI has been bribing employees of Best Buy’s Geek Squad to hack into computers for the past 10 years, according to a stunning new report that raises concerns over Fourth Amendment violations.

Technicians were paid between $500 and $1,000 as “informants” and encouraged to search customers’ computers for any illegal material, a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit found.

The FOIA request was filed by the nonprofit Electronic Frontier Foundation after the FBI’s link to the Geek Squad was uncovered in the child pornography case against California doctor Mark Rettenmaier.

Documents recently released to EFF detail the FBI’s close relationship with Best Buy.

A memo from September 2008 describes how the big-box electronic retailer hosted a meeting of the agency’s “Cyber Working Group” at Best Buy’s Kentucky repair facility and even gave agents a tour of the space.

The memo also said the agency’s Louisville Division “has maintained close liaison with the Geek Squad’s management in an effort to glean case initiations and to support the division’s Computer Intrusion and Cyber Crime programs.”

Geek Squad technicians would flag what they believed to be child porn in calls to FBI’s Louisville field office, EFF said. The feds would show up, review the images in question and determine whether they were illegal. The hard drive or computer would then be seized and sent to another FBI field office closest to where the device’s owner lived, EFF said.

Local agents would investigate further — and sometimes try to obtain a search warrant.

In some of the reports obtained by EFF, FBI agents identified Geek Squad technicians as “CHS” — or confidential human sources. In other instances, agents noted the calls as coming from Best Buy employees.

“The relationship potentially circumvents computer owners’ Fourth Amendment rights,” EFF said.

Rettenmaier was charged after a technician went through the oncologist’s deleted files and called the FBI in 2011, according to CBS.

EFF said at least one tech in Rettenmaier’s case was paid $500 to do the sleuthing. The X-rated material allegedly was found in an unallocated space on the doctor’s hard drive — which would have required forensic software to find.

Charges against Rettenmaier were tossed last year after a judge ruled that an FBI agent made “false and misleading statements” to obtain a search warrant for his home.

Best Buy has denied the claims.

05-07-18  11:19am - 2421 days #5
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Was going to suggest re formatting but you've already tried that. Right click and a re format option usually comes up. Edited on May 07, 2018, 11:23am

05-07-18  03:48pm - 2421 days #6
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Jesus! That's scary about Best Buy employees searching computers. I wouldn't have a huge worry because none of the porn I have is illegal, either from it being of something that isn't legal or because it is pirated. But still, it isn't worth the hassle. The drive is probably three or four years old. I replaced it with a 4TB WD drive and have already restored it so the old drive is just a paperweight now I guess.

05-07-18  03:53pm - 2421 days #7
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Originally Posted by Tree Rodent:


Was going to suggest re formatting but you've already tried that. Right click and a re format option usually comes up.


Actually, I haven't tried that but I'd like to. When I plug the drive in nothing happens. The light comes on in the drive but the drive isn't visible anywhere. I've tried "My Computer," "Disk Manager" and "Device Manager." It's invisible. Looking back on it, I was downloading a scene onto it when that failed and locked everything up. I figured that it was a software glitch but maybe what caused that was the physical drive failing.

On the frustration level this is pretty low because I had everything backed up.

Let this be a lesson to all of us!!!!! Back your stuff up!!!

05-08-18  06:18am - 2420 days #8
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


Actually, I haven't tried that but I'd like to. When I plug the drive in nothing happens. The light comes on in the drive but the drive isn't visible anywhere. I've tried "My Computer," "Disk Manager" and "Device Manager." It's invisible. Looking back on it, I was downloading a scene onto it when that failed and locked everything up. I figured that it was a software glitch but maybe what caused that was the physical drive failing.

On the frustration level this is pretty low because I had everything backed up.

Let this be a lesson to all of us!!!!! Back your stuff up!!!


I have had this sort of trouble a lot with WD drives. It happens when they get close to full, and often the computer appears to mistake one drive for another. Obviously you have tried pretty much everything but on a number of occasions a drive that has looked impossible to revive has been revived. I have used another drive on the same port then plugged the problem one in later. The right click and re format has often worked, but sometimes the old data is still on there without having to re format.

Nowadays I even backup my backups.

If the drive seems to be invisible under devices and drives it will sometimes appear under a different name (like USB Drive B), so look under a name that you don't recognise and try the right click and re format option, or unplug then plug back in while observing your devices and drives list and see if anything appears or disappears. Edited on May 08, 2018, 06:33am

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