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| 09-14-13 10:39am - 4117 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
My problem with mixed sites! With that I mean picture sites that were mostly solo originally but have gradually given in to demands to add more hardcore material like b/g or g/g. Here is my problem: I looked at all the solo girls as "models," maybe they were exhibitionists at heart, maybe they did it as a one time thing to help them get through college. Maybe they were mature women who decided "Man, I am bored with being a vanilla person .. I want to do something different, shocking, for a change" ... well, you know what I mean. Who knows the reason why a girl/woman ends up doing a photo set or two? In any case, bottom line: they were basically daring and teasing amateurs in my eyes. Now this same "amateur" model does a b/g set and all of a sudden this bold girl/woman next door reveals herself to be nothing but a sex worker. And her value diminishes dramatically in my eyes because it brings home an inescapable (but mostly denied by me) fact: that she is prostituting herself for some cash. I am not knocking prostitutes, I have downloaded their scenes at VideoBox and Videosz, but to see my lovely solo models clearly revealing what they really are all about, that is a huge disappointment ... and that is why I hate b/g material creeping into formerly straight solo sites. And wish that those who like hardcore would stop clamoring for b/g and simply stick to the thousands of sites that already give them what they want. End of rant, m. | |
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| 09-14-13 11:21am - 4117 days | #2 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
nice rant, It always seems to me as soon as they start HC the downward slide of their looks/trampiness is pretty much exponential. Although I will admit to a thrill at finding a hot woman I thought only did solo stuff having done a few harder scenes. I do prefer sites stick to what they are good at, not sure why everyone tries to do everything these days. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 09-14-13 12:06pm - 4117 days | #3 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Wot M sed!  +1  Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 09-14-13 01:22pm - 4117 days | #4 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
In my experience lots of sites have at least tried going more hardcore because the market was rough (and still isn't that much better) and they feel they have to to make sales. Some of the other webmasters I've spoken to about it have said they had to do that or go bust. It wasn't an artistic decision, they felt they were forced into it by the market. Personally I won't take my sites that way. If I don't enjoy the content, my customers will soon realise it. It would just ruin the experience for everyone. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 09-14-13 02:16pm - 4117 days | #5 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks for the view from the other side, Ed. I've always wondered how much these sites really gain, though, and would love to see some statistics on that. For every hardcore lover they gain they must be losing people like the cap'n or myself. And thanks for sticking to your guns, that's really refreshing to see. | |
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| 09-14-13 02:58pm - 4117 days | #6 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Thanks for the awesome insight Ed. Since 2007 | |
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| 09-14-13 04:31pm - 4117 days | #7 | |
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biker (0)
Active User  Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
We all have some bubble pop in our faces from time to time. This is just one of those times. Remember this. For a while it was there. Some miss out on moments like you had, because they are looking in the wrong places or for something that is not there. Warning Will Robinson | |
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| 09-14-13 05:21pm - 4117 days | #8 | ||||
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I can't speak for every one of them but when it comes to semi-nude to all nude models then the simple is answer that it's a paycheck. That's it, thats' all.
I think it's purely a case of perception on the part of the viewer because she was always a sex worker. At least in as much as she used her body to sell a product.
I'm different because I much prefer midcore to hardcore content so her value can increase but it doesn't always because I find that the transition from innocent looking girl to wanton hardcore porn girl is often too drastic and therefore the qualities that she had as a softcore model get lost in her new persona.
I again see it differently because seeing them do hardcore stuff makes me a little sad because I realise that they probably had no choice in the decision because the softcore offers started to dry up and they had to go hardcore or else find another kind of job. It's even worse now because new girls looking to start in the adult entertainmanet/porn industry don't even have the softcore options most of their predecessors did. You either go HC or you stick to other jobs. Long live the Brown Coats. | ||||
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| 09-14-13 07:45pm - 4117 days | #9 | ||
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
It's certainly the number one reason I can think of why anyone gets into the business. So until the haters can figure out how to give all these "victimized" young women free jobs that pay as much for the same amount of work with as little education then they don't have much to offer to the discussion. Even the supposed sex addicts still have bills to pay and don't necessarily like doing these things on camera or all the prep work involved. And if they actually enjoy doing nude/solo work that doesn't mean the hardcore stuff is equally as satisfying (despite the usually higher paycheck). "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | ||
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| 09-14-13 08:16pm - 4117 days | #10 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
My first thought after reading this was fucking ALSScan. I understand they have expanded over the years, been taken over by the MetArt octopus, and are generally a better site than they were ten or fifteen years ago, but I'm a girls-only man at heart. Yes, I still watch plenty of hardcore, but when I develop a liking for a certain format over the years then I don't want it to be tainted by an invasion of boners and literal man taint. And "but it's only a little hardcore" is not a defense for me. I'm not even tolerant of BTS guys so on camera XY chromosomes are even less desirable. That being said there's something about a performer, rather than a site, that does a little something different outside her usual repertoire of debauchery. Watch a girl do nothing but solo or girl-girl scenes for long enough and then one day find that she's performed a crazy boy-girl anal scene and you'll feel like you've uncovered cold fusion. I guess there's something to be said for that moment when you realize your favorite actress, who always held a special, somewhat innocent place in your heart, actually knows her way around a big hard cock.  However, if she turns that hardcore stuff into her usual routine I'll be bored to tears pretty quickly. The best is when it's something you know they'll do, just not very often. It's like a precious commodity and if she does it in every scene you run out of desire for it. A lot of sites could learn something from this; keep the content a little unique and don't think hardcore will simply equal bigger bucks because it gets fucking boring when everyone is doing it. Hell, AbbyWinters is still around (if relocated) and has continued to do business without suffering a tidal wave of testosterone. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Sep 14, 2013, 08:20pm | |
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| 09-15-13 11:16am - 4116 days | #11 | |||
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
That's how I feel about those ladies who I thought were only softcore models to lesbian only. I can honestly say that seeing them go hardcore was quite thrilling. There are quite a few performers who worked for Girlfriends Films and I believed nowhere else and then they I found some of their b/g shoots. Those are the best treasures the net brings me.
I'm with you to the point that I want to see a girl who only shoots hardcore to do more softcore or midcore stuff.
I think the best sites are those that offer variety but for that to work well then all the content must be of similar quality an quantity. If one type of content is superior to the rest then entire site suffers for the difference. I think that's where many of the more softcore to midcore sites make their biggest mistake. Adding hardcore to your repertoire is fine but only if it's going to be of equal quality as the softcore stuff. Long live the Brown Coats. | |||
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| 09-15-13 01:43pm - 4116 days | #12 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
I do agree that that a lot of sites are becoming more "mixed" now in terms of soft / hardcore. For me, I actually like it since I do like hardcore and it adds more variety to a site and from my perspective too many of the softcore sites get repetitive in terms of the way they shoot their material. I sort of equate Messmer's problem of being in the minority ("minority" in terms of taste for quality softcore as opposed to rest of the hardcore driven crowds of the web in general) to my interest in photo sets over video. I can't count the number of times I've seen a great photo set or model and had my interest squashed by a lousy video of the same shoot (endless monolithic moaning, asshole male actor, director giving verbal cues, etc.). Yet, far too many sites are just now just using pics as "filler" material with little regard to size, lighting, using screen captures from less than stellar video quality, cropping and selection of shots. I bitch about this all the time but there isn't a lot I can do short of limiting my memberships to a few sites because I know the economics of the biz call for video ... followed by more video and everything else be damned. It's sort of damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. Without more revenue sources the sites I like might not make it yet in order for them to make it make they don't put as much effort into what should be an easy fix. Majority rules. | |
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| 09-15-13 03:28pm - 4116 days | #13 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Turboshaft wrote: "That being said there's something about a performer, rather than a site, that does a little something different outside her usual repertoire of debauchery. Watch a girl do nothing but solo or girl-girl scenes for long enough and then one day find that she's performed a crazy boy-girl anal scene and you'll feel like you've uncovered cold fusion. I guess there's something to be said for that moment when you realize your favorite actress, who always held a special, somewhat innocent place in your heart, actually knows her way around a big hard cock." For me it is just the opposite, turbo. I have deleted many sets of favorite models just because they eventually decided to go hardcore (b/g.) It was my idealized image of them that took a hit and I could never look at them in the same way again. That's because, in my mind, there is a class system when it comes to commercial sex, even though I know that in many cases the lines are blurred. The number one spot is taken by: Models (softcore, amateur pro), followed by Escorts / Strippers, then by porn hardcore performers, and finally by Streetwalkers, and if my model tumbles from top spot on the ladder into number three spot .. that's a degrading demotion! Since I frequently look at the "degrading" stuff myself, please don't consider my arbitrary status ladder to be an insult to your favorite porn star. It's just that in formerly softcore solo picture sites the b/g now present is wildly out of place. Let me stress, as always, that my opinion is highly subjective and that I am not necessarily right!  It's just the way I feel about the whole thing. | |
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| 09-15-13 06:40pm - 4116 days | #14 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^I think you would be much happier if your perception was in someway altered so that you could still actually enjoy those models you clearly did before you discovered certain things about them. After all they're still the same person you first fell in love with but with more facets of their personality revealed. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 09-16-13 03:56pm - 4115 days | #15 | ||
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
All angels fall eventually, messmer. At least I hope!  Your class system sounds kind of odd but it explains why you don't want your favorite model to cross over to the dark side that is hardcore performer. Fall in love with the girl in a solo scene and you'll declare treason the instant she makes naughty, nasty love to some male costar. If there's some kind of innocence in a solo scene--and there wouldn't be if I was directing!--there's certainly going to a lot less when a lucky Lothario comes along to bury himself balls-deep in her. It's like you just had a piece of your heart chipped away.
Don't worry; I know I'm not necessarily right either, just angrier. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | ||
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| 09-16-13 10:34pm - 4115 days | #16 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
If I come across a known favourite performer & she is doing something I don't care for, I stop looking & put it out of my mind. That way I can still enjoy the good on topic material of her. After all it is all fantasy for us end-users!  Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 09-17-13 11:24am - 4114 days | #17 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Wish I could do that Cap'n.  The fantasy is destroyed for me the moment she moves on to hardcore. This definitely influences my enjoyment of all her previous sets. | |
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| 09-17-13 01:10pm - 4114 days | #18 | |
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Thedebilman666 (0)
Suspended  Posts: 144 Registered: Dec 08, '10 Location: NYC |
Know what I say? Get the fuck over it, the world of porn doesn't revolve around you. Don't like certain content, don't look at it, plain and simple, and just enjoy the content you do like. My biggest pet peeve is porn whiners, you join a site with content you don't like, or a site starts adding content you don't "approve of" and then you bitch, piss cry and moan about it, pisses me off to no end. No offense sir, but you are suffering from retard logic. End of rant. 6 pack bitches, deal with it Edited on Sep 17, 2013, 01:36pm | |
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| 09-17-13 01:41pm - 4114 days | #19 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
I'm in your corner, mess ....always have been. I esp. say that because I feel in many ways we're so much alike in our general views on internet's behavior amidst how and what they're serving up regarding what we want to see. You make your points rather simple to understand, and because in my mind you're a formidable writer it's sort'a easier than for most to deifier what's going on in your thoughts. I equate your dilemma here with thoughts of yesteryear, when as youths we fought tooth-an-nails to get into our girlfriend's laundry. The more she resisted the more we wanted her. Then one night heaven's gate opened, her hard fought struggles turned to limp surrender as she lowered her body as a positive signal that she was ready. Almost invariably, as it seems nature works, having seen and sampled the goods, her usual appeal starts its journey downhill. I think you get my drift, 'ol buddy | |
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| 09-17-13 01:51pm - 4114 days | #20 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Hey TD666, There is no need to jump all over one of our senior members just cause he is sharing his opinion. He is just as entitled to his as you are to yours. Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 09-17-13 03:59pm - 4114 days | #21 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Eh .... let me say, Tb666, I've really enjoyed most of your posts ever since you landed here. I even have to commend this recent one for it's extraordinary choice of words making your point. And for all practical purposes, (omitting, of course the gentleman who's the object of this rant) I would have to say your's is a damned good one, HAD IT BEEN directed where it would have done the most good ... and that would be exactly amongst where one of our most respected producing member (messmer) put it. This to me begs the question of how in the world do you think you're gonna fit in here . For crying out loud, man, guy's who "bitch, piss cry and moan" about the insane practices and content spewing from these dumbass websites are all we have here at PU. If this bothers you, all I can say is that your future here will be anything but the likes of being a walk on the beach. | |
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| 09-17-13 05:25pm - 4114 days | #22 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Everyone is entitled to and opinion  .But In a slight rebuttal, my credit card pays for it, I bitch up a storm. I don't like a site I wont go back. They change venue and mislead customers thats wrong. I think you see whining and bitching where people want what they pay for. Imagine you go to Burger King and they give you a veggy pizza thats not on the menu and charge you ? Doesn't matter if you like the Pizza or not  this is Burger King, and such it is with Porn if you are providing a service stay true to your customer base,if not then their will be a wrath. Since 2007 | |
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| 09-17-13 08:08pm - 4114 days | #23 | |
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Thedebilman666 (0)
Suspended Posts: 144 Registered: Dec 08, '10 Location: NYC |
But on the BK menu there's a big, giant picture of that veggie pizza...and you already knew walking in there they are now offering veggie pizzas  .I know I come off quite rude but like I said, I hate people who think they're the Dali Lama and that PORN sites must abide by their precious wishes, and how dare a PORN site put, I don't know, PORN on it. Take the tour before joining, don't like it, don't join it. And if you do join that site, with content you despise, that you KNEW was there, shut your little whiney pie hole about it and enjoy the content you joined up to see. I haven't come across ONE site that lied about what content lies inside, not one. This is the land of porn, not fairy tale land. You will run across content you don't like on every site on the web so just deal with it. Join Netflix if 2013 porn is too much to handle. Or better yet, don't look at the content you despise so much, you paid for it knowing it was already there...and then have the audacity to bitch about it...retard logic  6 pack bitches, deal with it Edited on Sep 17, 2013, 08:52pm | |
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| 09-17-13 09:47pm - 4114 days | #24 | |
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Thedebilman666 (0)
Suspended Posts: 144 Registered: Dec 08, '10 Location: NYC |
I never fit in anywhere so why should it matter here? This is an adult site, where adults come to talk, mostly about porn, and express opinions. Yours are rosey and mine are, what, smelly? If you want, I can be the big boil on your ass that hurts like hell every time you sit. The only reason I "attacked" the original poster is for the audacity he had to come under my review for Nubiles and then criticize my high score 'cause he don't like hardcore. How's he like people fucking up his mojo? I'm a tit for tat kind of guy. People need to be Whack-a-Moled into reality sometimes to snap them out of the delusional fantasy realm they live in  6 pack bitches, deal with it Edited on Sep 17, 2013, 09:53pm | |
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| 09-17-13 10:00pm - 4114 days | #25 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I would like every fair minded person to go to the latest review of "Nubiles" to read my comments. There is a misunderstanding of some sort here. If the above poster felt slighted by them, then my sincere apologies. His was an excellent review. | |
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| 09-18-13 07:49am - 4113 days | #26 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Just by way of a friendly reminder .... From our Forum Rules: Treat others with respect. The forum is intended to be a friendly and non-intimidating community. Users who consistently go against this and act disrespectful to others will be warned and possibly suspended. From our General Terms & Conditions: Users should conduct themselves as adults. Upon entry into this site, each user certified that they were an adult, therefore, we ask that you conduct yourself as an adult at all times. It is natural for different people with different tastes from different backgrounds to disagree. However, even when you disagree you should conduct yourself as a responsible adult and refrain from personal attacks and put-downs of fellow users. 'nuff said Former PornUsers Senior AdministratorNow at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 09-18-13 08:45am - 4113 days | #27 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I think you missed my analogy, the point is if you DID NOT know you were going to get Pizza when you ordered, but I think you knew where I was coming from my friend. I pay, I have rights. I contribute in a monetary way its my funds not anyone else. I will do what ever is necessary to make sure "if" I feel wronged or cheated in a site that the owners are aware of my displeasure. I won't be rude to a site, but I will speak my mind and share why it was I am unhappy. I don't think you are aggressive as much as you enjoy poking the bear .  .But you will find the any members here will still respond in a friendly open way whether they agree with you or not and is why this site ROCKS because its a classy place for porn ( my opinion) Since 2007 | |
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| 09-18-13 10:39am - 4113 days | #28 | |
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Thedebilman666 (0)
Suspended Posts: 144 Registered: Dec 08, '10 Location: NYC |
Conduct themselves like adults? Gee, you'd think an adult would understand the concept of a porn site and that the world doesn't revolve around they're precious needs. Don't like my blunt style, ban me, 'nuff said. 6 pack bitches, deal with it | |
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| 09-18-13 10:48am - 4113 days | #29 | |
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Thedebilman666 (0)
Suspended Posts: 144 Registered: Dec 08, '10 Location: NYC |
You're the one who missed my entire analogy. Name some sites where they lied about what kind of content lies inside? If there's hardcore, by all means the tour will tell you that. If there's anal, by all means the tour will tell you that. Lesbian content? Same. So what's all this whining, hypocritical, double standard bs about? That's my question. 6 pack bitches, deal with it | |
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| 09-18-13 10:50am - 4113 days | #30 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Hmmmm a concept of a porn site ? You mean your concept of a porn site? In all fairness to those you insult, you are voicing your opinion yet wishing to suppress those of others. You appear to be knocking what you yourself are presenting ? | |
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| 09-18-13 10:53am - 4113 days | #31 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
ROFL..... you my friend are one funny guy. It was my analogy , how can I miss my own point.  Ok enough playing, obviously you will oppose anything said by anyone. I'm done have a nice day. Maybe poke the bear elsewhere. Wont get any more responses from me.  Since 2007 | |
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| 09-18-13 11:03am - 4113 days | #32 | |
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Thedebilman666 (0)
Suspended Posts: 144 Registered: Dec 08, '10 Location: NYC |
Sorry for being so "rude" as people put it, cause I used the word fuck and retard to make my points hit even harder, on an "adult" site as you guys so eloquently put it, where we share opinions but god forbid if you say fuck or retard on an adult site. People hate hearing the truth, especially when it's cold and hard and 100% accurate. My question to you is why in the heck did you come under my review and argue with me about the hardcore on the site? There's 83.6% solo content - I did the math - and hardcore has been on the site since 2005, 8 years ago. You're still complaining about something that happened 8 years ago? Really? There's way more than enough solo content on that site to make anyone more than happy. And not to be even ruder, but nobody cares that you resent hardcore, nobody. Not me, the webmaster, anybody reading the review, we don't care. So why whine about it in the first place? 99% of the people who join sites run across content they don't like, so they just pass right by it and look at the stuff they do prefer, your collection will never even know it was there if you don't download any of it. Porn sites are a business, supply and demand, understand how it works? If a webmaster is getting requests from 90% of his members for hardcore, by all means, the man is gonna put hardcore on the site, cause ultimately it equals more money and a bigger customer base, supply and demand. Money talks and bullshit walks. 6 pack bitches, deal with it Edited on Sep 18, 2013, 11:09am | |
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| 09-18-13 02:21pm - 4113 days | #34 | |
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Thedebilman666 (0)
Suspended Posts: 144 Registered: Dec 08, '10 Location: NYC |
One more hoo-rah for yas: por·nog·ra·phy noun \-fē\ : movies, pictures, magazines, etc., that show or describe naked people or sex in a very open and direct way in order to cause sexual excitement Full Definition of PORNOGRAPHY 1 : the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement 2 : material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement 3 : the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction --------- hyp·o·crite noun \ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit\ : a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs Full Definition of HYPOCRITE 1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion 2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings ---------- double standard noun : a situation in which two people, groups, etc., are treated very differently from each other in a way that is unfair to one of them Full Definition of DOUBLE STANDARD 1 : bimetallism 2 : a set of principles that applies differently and usually more rigorously to one group of people or circumstances than to another; especially : a code of morals that applies more severe standards of sexual behavior to women than to men When all you "adults" around here finally comprehend these three things it'll already be way too late. 6 pack bitches, deal with it | |
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| 09-18-13 02:39pm - 4113 days | #35 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Well Thedebilman666, you don't have to be a nice guy and you're welcome to disagree with anyone here, however, you will not continue personal attacks and put-downs of fellow users. Those are a violation of our terms and go against everything that keep this place civil even though the topics of discussion concern porn and some pretty extreme tastes. You might consider that you've had your say on this one now and let it drop. Else, learn to argue issues without putting down people. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 09-18-13 03:01pm - 4113 days | #36 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
It's not about the words you use, but the fact that they're directed towards specific members in order to insult them. Outside of spammers there's no reason to put down members simply because you disagree with them, that's the adult thing to do. Plus, didn't messmer originally comment that you did a great review of Nubiles?  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 09-18-13 05:32pm - 4113 days | #37 | |
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Thedebilman666 (0)
Suspended Posts: 144 Registered: Dec 08, '10 Location: NYC |
Being honest is a personal attack huh? My first message to messmer was an attack, which I apologized for. My last message to messmer was the furthest thing from a personal attack. I speak and write PROPER English and I see no personal attack whatsoever. Brutal honesty yes, personal attack, hell no. What I said to the toad, again, brutal honesty, I seriously meant he needs reading comprehension lessons because he completely didn't get the my analogy vs. his analogy thing. And to graymane? Yes, that was rude about the boil thing but I clearly answered his question, again, no personal attack. You know what, I'll stay out of your precious forums and continue to let you guys live in the fantasy realm of what you think porn has to be, cause, you know, the Dali Lama complex living in denial thing? I will never post another word on this ridiculous forum. I will still stay a member, just for the discounts and cast a vote in the polls, maybe comment here and there on them. Wanna ban me for giving people reality checks and grounding them back to Earth? Go right ahead, this ain't the only site like this around. 6 pack bitches, deal with it Edited on Sep 18, 2013, 06:24pm | |
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| 09-18-13 06:26pm - 4113 days | #38 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Bye !! Since 2007 | |
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| 09-18-13 06:36pm - 4113 days | #39 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I didn't want to add fuel to the fire because anything I would have said would only have made things worse so I kept out of the nonsense but I had to add one little thing which is in regards to the above statement. This is in fact a one of a kind site. Anyone who thinks otherwise has never been on any other forum because here we may not agree with each other but we do not resort to insults. I've been on enough of them or have read the comments on others to know that name calling is common. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 09-18-13 06:42pm - 4113 days | #40 | |
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Thedebilman666 (0)
Suspended Posts: 144 Registered: Dec 08, '10 Location: NYC |
Keep living in denial man, it's bad for your health. Now I'm done posting and you can all  now. 6 pack bitches, deal with it | |
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| 09-18-13 06:45pm - 4113 days | #41 | |
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Thedebilman666 (0)
Suspended Posts: 144 Registered: Dec 08, '10 Location: NYC |
Here's ONE of THOUSANDS! http://www.forumophilia.com/ 6 pack bitches, deal with it | |
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| 09-18-13 06:54pm - 4113 days | #42 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I know I like to radically change the subject of a thread but, man, how did this one get so out of whack? I must be missing something here.  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 09-18-13 07:08pm - 4113 days | #43 | |
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Thedebilman666 (0)
Suspended Posts: 144 Registered: Dec 08, '10 Location: NYC |
If you guys really want me to stay away, quit quoting me, 'cause if you do I WILL respond. Shit got out of whack on this site a looooooooooong time ago, well before I stirred up the shit pot. Specifically with people who think that porn should be one way: THEIR WAY! You're probably wondering why I called people around here hypocrites? This is why, I read this crapola all day long on porn sites, tons of it on here: my porn is okay, yours isn't. Hypocrite. I joined a website that I KNEW had hardcore on it, and now I'm gonna cry about it 'cause I'm offended, 'cause I don't like hardcore. Hypocrite. The double standard thing? I love watching a girl use a dildo on herself but her riding a dick offends me. Double standard. If nothing I've said registered with anyone here, I wouldn't be surprised one damn bit. No offense. I can definitely forsee someone crying that this was also a "personal attack." 6 pack bitches, deal with it | |
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| 09-18-13 08:21pm - 4113 days | #44 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
People seem to agree with the first part of your point, "my porn is okay," but not necessarily with the second, "yours isn't." I thought PU members always made it clear what they like, and just because they don't like something else doesn't mean you have to think the same way they do. It's more like "My porn is okay with me, yours is okay with you." That's pretty much it. Messmer's original rant in this thread was about sites changing to a genre that members either like less or not at all--"I hate b/g material creeping into formerly straight solo sites"--not that they joined a site they knew to currently be one thing but were expecting something different. I've stated my tastes and preferences plenty of times here in the forum and certainly don't expect people to agree with them or even understand them (there are times when I barely understand them  ). But that doesn't mean other members' tastes are wrong, just that they are their own. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 09-18-13 09:26pm - 4113 days | #45 | |
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Thedebilman666 (0)
Suspended Posts: 144 Registered: Dec 08, '10 Location: NYC |
People on this site remind me of born again Christians, same logic. MY WHOLE POINT that just can't be drilled through some Neanderthal skulls is if you resent hardcore or certain content so much don't join the sites that have it. And if you do, you have NO right to bitch, piss, cry and moan about it, you're a double standard living hypocrite if you do and sound like a complete jackass suffering from dementia. Webmasters would LOVE to come in here and tell certain people the same thing, 'cause people like them are bad for business, but they dare not for obvious reasons. Don't need to specifically point out names but just dig around a little bit to figure out who the MASS hypocrites are. Bow to the Dali Lamas  6 pack bitches, deal with it Edited on Sep 18, 2013, 09:48pm | |
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| 09-19-13 01:35am - 4112 days | #46 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Ya'know Debil, you seem like a bright fellow, and assuming you don't have a thesaurus sutured to your nose, I’d say you have a pretty good command of the language. -- although I think you'd fare better with a good course in “anger-management.” And like my good friend, cybertoad says, You’re a hell’va funny guy. And that, among other things, are reasons I hate to see you in pout-mode abandoning our happy little family. Cuz despite your hair-trigger temperament, I figure you’d be one hell’va tough warrior on our front lines with those snappy reviews, as well as putting more life in our forum with that sharpened wit. I mean, can’t you sort’a lower your rage down to at least a roar! Before my wrap on this subject, I jus’ gotta throw in my two-cent about your associating of this bunch with “born-again-Christians.” if ever there was an assortment anywhere who would be the antithesis to born-again status, its gotta be this flock of porn-lovin’ guys here at PU....whom, I hasten to add, probably wouldn't tell you the difference between a pew and a pulpit. So chill, man ……and dance with those what brung you. | |
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| 09-19-13 08:39am - 4112 days | #47 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Thedebilman666, ok so I lied sue me, I agree with others you do some good reviews. But man you got take a chill pill as no one has said you cant have an opinion, but back the fuck off telling everyone else they have to think like you. Know that not one person has said that and everyone danced around it. But I said it bluntly. Its my porn I pay for its how I feel about end of story, it your porn you write how you like or don't end of story. You have a been a member around here long enough to know how this forum works. If your plan is to piss off people thats neither nice or acceptable. Because you are not trying to educate or give insight to anything, you like I said want to poke the bear. And it is so clear you don't want a discussion as much as to place innuendos of stupidity of other you want to advertise and then insult as you dance around hinting at names playing some game to get a rise outta people. Thedebilman666 just imagine if you took all that anger energy and worked to make friends in the forum, instead of playing games and just talked, don't have to agree with anyone. But had a civil conversation. Hey ask everyone I am not always the favorite either. But I am sensitive to others rights granted on this forum whether I agree or not. I know in many aspect fellow members do not agree with what I believe. Yet their is mutual respect, something you would have if you treated members as people and not a play thing. Thats just how I feel about it. Since 2007 | |
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| 09-19-13 09:36am - 4112 days | #48 | |
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Thedebilman666 (0)
Suspended Posts: 144 Registered: Dec 08, '10 Location: NYC |
I'm sorry for unleashing my pyroclastic flows, "gangsta rap made me do it" I recommend all you people who disagree with me to listen to that song, it's on youtube by Ice Cube. If you guys can comprehend the message of the tune, you're on the right track to freeing your minds and once that happens, your ass will eventually follow! One more thing, if you want me gone, don't quote me anymore. I understand we all have our opinions, but when someone doesn't jive with yours you all freak out about it.  6 pack bitches, deal with it Edited on Sep 19, 2013, 01:10pm | |
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