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| 12-02-09 05:07am - 5499 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Less fast and hard hardcore, please.... Almost all hardcore (b/g) video-material I've found lately at different sites, has a lot of the same style. By style I mean: the way the guy fucks a model/girl, the blowjobs and the rest of the deal which also - of course includes - the director/procucer. Most is just going too fast or too rough - why do a lot of these male pornactors fuck the model so fast it's almost like a rabbit-thing. There's too much of that even at sites which do not market the rough stuff... Where is the erotic part - the gentle and sensitive fuck and blow and 69 ect. that most experience in real life - I thought that hc-porn also was supposed to be a mirror/fantasy of real life - Not all like it tough or rough - not even to watch.. Been through those 21Sextury-sites, DDF, Brazzers, NA ect... To find sensitive scenes seems like looking for a needle in a haystack - 1 or 2 in a hundred. There got to be some demand - saw a dvd with Bree Olsen - here were scenes with 'fast' and 'slow' fuck... Anybody got some good sites? (apart from Explicite)... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Dec 02, 2009, 05:52am | |
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| 12-02-09 01:18pm - 5498 days | #2 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
Welcome to 21st Century Gonzo inspired porn. Who's got time for slow loving when there's so much texting, sexting, blogging, facebooking, reality tv and holiday shopping to do? Wham, bam, I'll text you later ma'am and have a nice day ... would you like fries with that too? | |
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| 12-02-09 05:45pm - 5498 days | #3 | |
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BabyGetReal (0)
Active User Posts: 39 Registered: Jul 26, '09 Location: Western Massachusetts USA |
Hear, Hear, Denner! I'm having a hard time finding boy/girl videos that I find erotic. (See my reply to the current poll -- https://www.pornusers.com/replies_view.html?id=41521 ) I think that genuine arousal, chemistry, foreplay, creativity etc. should be factored into the score -- so I wouldn't give TeenDreams a 92 since they have some of the fastest, hardest, most mechanical sex with neither person being aroused. Also it would be REALLY USEFUL if reviewers would evaluate arousal, chemistry, playfulness, foreplay, female orgasms, etc. in their reviews! I've been arguing for this during the 4 months I've been a member here, but I haven't seen other members do this in their reviews (see my reviews; see my comments in Teen Sex Movs, Teen Dreams, Broke Amateurs). | |
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| 12-02-09 06:56pm - 5498 days | #4 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I don't know if it's a general symptom infecting anyone making movies but I don't know how many mainstream movies I've seen in the last few years that jammed packed with only super fast kinetic action that's next to impossible to follow on screen. I think they do it because if they were to slow it down then we'd see how crappy the scene actually is. That mightr be one of the reasons why they do that in porn. Passion requires a certain amount of chemistry between the performers or some actual acting talent. No offense to todays stars but how many of these girls & guys have taken acting classes. For that matter how many of them could actually act their way out of a box. If you have super fast action then we can't see all the erros and defects. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 12-02-09 07:59pm - 5498 days | #5 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User  Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
I notice this myself when comparing it to classic porn. | |
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| 12-02-09 08:40pm - 5498 days | #6 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
What he said. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 12-02-09 08:54pm - 5498 days | #7 | |
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WeeWillyWinky (0)
Active User  Posts: 243 Registered: Jun 03, '07 Location: Havasu City, AZ USA |
What I really think is that most modern porn isn't about sex, it's about power, aggression, degradation, and domination. It's not about desire, passion, or sensual pleasure, it's about scoring. A lot of these male performers don't want to make love to a woman, they want to defile her. If most modern porn was about sex and not all that crude macho stupidity, I'd watch more porn. As it is, I'd rather collect pictures and watch softcore vids. You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! | |
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| 12-02-09 09:39pm - 5498 days | #8 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I am afraid I would have to pretty much agree with this view. :( So much of today's hardcore porn is made up of a pretty gal who starts off posing only to have some steroidal maniac come in and take charge: he yanks her by the hair, slaps, chokes, spits, squeezes, strains, and does pretty much anything else that would get you in trouble with a girlfriend or wife -- and probably even if they requested it. If it's hardcore insertion porn (focusing on big toys where a guy is the inserter) then all bets are off. So many seem to end up with the poor girl in a pile driver position while the dude stands over her forcing too large of an object into too small of a hole as if he was trying to mix concrete. The rare video is where he actually calls her by name or even knows it, rather than insulting her and scowling at her as if was going to kill her (which is where a snuff film would take over). "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 12-02-09 09:50pm - 5498 days | #9 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I think this has been asked before, but are there any sites or companies that make their videos primarily with the oral sex being performed on the female, rather than the retarded blowjob contests that hardcore videos have descended into? A good blowjob scene is fun to watch every once and a while, but really, if it's not actually being experienced I don't see why they are put in nearly every damn hardcore scene ever put to tape or film. With cunnilingus you get to see the girl's fun parts and she's probably having a lot more enjoyment than when she is trying not to vomit or asphyxiate on the guy's hard-on while he calls her names and grabs her by the hair. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 12-02-09 11:32pm - 5498 days | #10 | |
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anyonebutme (0)
Active User  Posts: 294 Registered: Aug 23, '09 |
The discussion of this thread is *exactly* why I switched to only all-girl porn few years ago - best decision I ever made regarding porn! My philosophy is, "keep it simple, and when in doubt go slower" where mainstream porn seems to be "I don't know what to do so let's compensate through speed" Though I will say, my last subscription was to the new site wetandpuffy.com and they surprisingly had some damn good sensual blowjob videos! Something one rarely sees anymore. Edited on Dec 02, 2009, 11:35pm | |
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| 12-02-09 11:45pm - 5498 days | #11 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
There should be a site called "SlowAndSavory" that features just that. I find that FuckedHard18 does pretty well with this, but of course not always. Sometimes there's a "click" and hey! 5th gear. Uh, make that "SlowAndSavoryFuttbucks." I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 12-03-09 01:09am - 5498 days | #12 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
Hi Turboshaft, Two sites to check out are thepussylicker.com and pinklunch.com. I wrote a review of the first one, but have never seen the second. | |
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| 12-03-09 01:10am - 5498 days | #13 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
I would hate that, only because you'd see the stunt cock's face filling up the screen. The stunt cock's face should never be seen. I prefer the BJ vids because you see the girl's face. But these jerks don't know how to make porn. If they did, we wouldn't be having this discussion. | |
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| 12-03-09 01:13am - 5498 days | #14 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
If you want to see porn made properly, join one of the premium Japanese sites. The Japanese are smarter than we are. | |
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| 12-03-09 01:25am - 5498 days | #15 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I guess I'm not so smart. I don't have any problems with visible pubic hair. ;) I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 12-03-09 02:39am - 5498 days | #16 | |
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monty2222 (0)
Active User  Posts: 49 Registered: Feb 20, '09 Location: Denmark |
Like justme, I've also switched to predominantly watching all-girl porn. A big perk is you get to watch pussy licking without a guys mug in the picture, in fact no dudes being there at all is in itself very nice. Also if you go to the dedicated lesbian studios it's easier to find some really passionate stuff without the dildo pounding that often takes place when the studios who creates the subject of this thread wants to throw a girl-girl scene into the mix. The lesbian studio Sweetheart Videos actually has a 'straight' sister company called Sweet Sinner. I haven't watched any of their straight videos, but if their lesbian videos are anything to go by, then Sweet Sinner should be really passionate without the usual porn-talk and stuff like that. As far as I know they're only available as VOD though, so they're expensive compared to all the videos you can get with a membership at Videobox or VideosZ. | |
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| 12-03-09 02:50am - 5498 days | #17 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
If you stick with Japanese sites that produce content only for export to other countries, you don't get the mosaic. I'm not a big asian fan, so I can't give you any names, but I know they're out there. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 12-03-09 07:28am - 5498 days | #18 | |
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BabyGetReal (0)
Active User Posts: 39 Registered: Jul 26, '09 Location: Western Massachusetts USA |
Dear justme, has wetandpuffy improved a lot, then, since it was reviewed in Sept. by ace of aces? Are they really updating multiple times/week? I also like slow sensual blowjobs (where the guy doesn't finish himself off) -- do those videos all closeup or do they have whole body shots? Do the guys lie there like logs, or show some excitement? | |
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| 12-03-09 10:52am - 5498 days | #19 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Out of desperation I am ready to become an Asian fan but just like so many others I can't tolerated the mosaic imposed on the best bits of the models. So I'll add my plaintive cry to to that of others: Are there any GOOD Asian (Japanese) sites that cater to foreigners and therefore uncensored! I'm ready to subscribe! :-) | |
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| 12-03-09 10:59am - 5498 days | #20 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Reason why you don't see your preferences listed in too many reviews, BGR, is because, on most sites, these things don't exist! Sadly! Denners post expresses well the current state of affairs in the porn industry. Edited on Dec 03, 2009, 11:16am | |
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| 12-03-09 11:07am - 5498 days | #21 | |
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BabyGetReal (0)
Active User Posts: 39 Registered: Jul 26, '09 Location: Western Massachusetts USA |
Thanks to justme, Drooler, mbaya for suggesting specific sites that may appeal to participants in this forum. I urge others to do the same! When in Japan, I have seen (in hotels) some really creative and erotic Japanese porn (yes, privates blurred out). I'd love to find some sites without the blurring that have a wide range of creative Japanese porn. Any recommendations? jd1961? | |
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| 12-03-09 12:29pm - 5497 days | #22 | |
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WeeWillyWinky (0)
Active User Posts: 243 Registered: Jun 03, '07 Location: Havasu City, AZ USA |
I've joined two Japanese sites, Idols69 and JSexNet, and pubic hair is vividly-visible in both of them, at least in reference to the pics. In fact, I'd say there is a marked fixation on visible, and delectable, JAV bush. Only the genitals are blurred, not the pubes. I've deleted the videos I took from both places, but I'm pretty sure you could see pubic hair in them, just not the genitals. You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! | |
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| 12-03-09 12:32pm - 5497 days | #23 | |
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WeeWillyWinky (0)
Active User Posts: 243 Registered: Jun 03, '07 Location: Havasu City, AZ USA |
In regards to porn, I'd have to agree with that. Edit: On further reflection, I think they dwell far too much on pawing and groping. It's juvenile. But the sex is more sensual, and the male is decidedly of much lesser interest than the female. I like the way they keep the guys out of shot as much as possible, and keep them quiet. Japanese porn seems MUCH more interested in the woman's arousal and pleasure than the man's. You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! Edited on Dec 03, 2009, 12:38pm | |
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| 12-03-09 12:35pm - 5497 days | #24 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
there are, but the gorgeous Japanese girls don't appear in them (except for Maria Ozawa). | |
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| 12-03-09 01:20pm - 5497 days | #25 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Gorgeous is not a must, jd, as long as they are not ugly. So, could you mention some of those uncensored sites? Please? I am really craving to see a different approach to Porn. | |
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| 12-03-09 03:25pm - 5497 days | #26 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I would recommend you all avoid pinklunch.com. I took a look at what passes for their preview page and the first scene is with Haley Pge who passed away 2 yrs ago. As far as I can tell this is all leased material from the Notorious studio. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 12-04-09 07:11pm - 5496 days | #27 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I didn't care for the preview page of pinklunch much because it seemed like so much of the same old same old as on other sites. The only reason I even mentioned it is that I know of only two sites with a pussy munching focus. A while back I was a member of deluxepass.com. I found a lot of uncensored Japanese videos, as well as many hot censored ones. Deluxepass is a network of a lot of sites with many different focuses. Many are tiny and should not really be called individual sites sites, but overall a membership gives access to a ton of videos. Some are low quality and many are better, but not HD. I would definitely recommend a membership for the Japanese videos alone. Another site I liked was Japanangels.com. Check it out as it has a lot of uncensored videos and includes many by the incomparable Maria Ozawa showing full bush and lips. Japanese performers don't get any better than her. Additionaly many videos have foreplay, some serious arousal and female orgasms. Take note! Edited on Dec 04, 2009, 07:22pm | |
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| 12-04-09 07:14pm - 5496 days | #28 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
Messmer, With all the reviews I have written, it is a rare site that would give me anything positive to say about those things. Unfortunately, I think you are right. | |
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| 12-06-09 04:54pm - 5494 days | #29 | |
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picdude (0)
Active User Posts: 107 Registered: Dec 26, '08 Location: Italy |
I've found some of the best (and also most passionate and slower) scenes I've ever seen were ones in which there were chemitry between the stars. I've seen a couple of scenes where the actress has always wanted to work with the other person and they really seem to enjoy it. The other time I seem to see things taken a little slower are some of these scenes with new girls who've perhaps never done another movie, things seem to be taken slower and the sex seems all that much more hotter for it. | |
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| 12-06-09 06:12pm - 5494 days | #30 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I'm not sure if my favorite scenes involved performers that had the right chemistry or if they were just that good as actors but I don't really care either way. All I care is that they appear that way. It's possible that todays performers don't care or like I said simply can't act. It's true that newer performers sometimes are offered a slower scene but then again. I've seene a few that were treated pretty rough from the start. Most usually don't go very far. A suspect that Max Hardcore shoot was likely to give you second thoughts about a porn career. Sadly he may have been one of the worst but he wasn't alone and those that follow him aren't far in their treatment of the female performers. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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