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08-16-12  07:42pm - 4511 days Original Post - #1
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In real time: Do women actually wank in this position?

She's comfortably lying on her back; her arms and hands, unfettered, are completely free.
And she can move about her entire frontal region with ease.

Things begin as her hand and fingers are now busily at work between her legs getting herself off. The scene is getting hot, and so am I.
But wait! Just as things are going swimmingly: (her writhing, moaning, and rhythmically thrusting her pelvis in ecstatic delight) her motion suddenly stops as she abandons this ideal situation, and while cameramen are repositioning their equipment, gets on her hands and knees (doggie style) and commences to awkwardly stretch her arm behind her back, and with some effort finds her pussy whereon she laboriously continues her masturbation in the style of a constipated gal mounted on her toilet in the throes of trying to get a big one out. One can readily see this position is sexually unorthodox; but somebody must like it because it's got to be in every solo scene being shot.

So I ask you, does this make any sense at all? I can only conclude that it is added in order to give Mr. Anal his share of the clip. Fine! I’m good with that. But why the hell does it have to cut short my candy just when I’m getting stoked on the way things are going?

Wouldn’t you agree it would be better to designate full clips to each fetish that's out there, and to quit jumping around and frequently changing scenes.

In closing: A Case in point:
I flat quit watching anything from one of my favorite models: Aria Giovanni.
Because she jus’ wouldn’t leave her tits alone during scenes, Never seen anybody so obsessed with her jugs as this woman.

And lastly: Realistically: do you know, or have you ever known of any woman who actually uses that technique to get herself off?

08-16-12  10:41pm - 4511 days #2
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Nor does Chow Yun-fat order a coffee while flying through the air in slow motion so he can twist mid jump and shoot 103 men with two nickel-plated pistols while a flock of doves flies off in the background. And yet, I'd still go see a new John Woo movie entitled "Office Target" featuring such a scene. I've enjoyed many a ridiculous extravaganza like most of John Woo's films. I also enjoyed "Italian for Beginners" (2000) which follows the tenets of Dogme 95, i.e. no special effects, even non-environmental background music.

So in regards to awkward poses in porn, simply put:

It. Is. Porn.

Some porn will be closer to reality but most will be a bit ridiculous because people are expecting a bit of spectacle. In that way porn is no different than the normal movie biz. "Italian for Beginners" grossed $4.4 million in the US market, while Woo's "Face/Off" (1997) grossed $112.2 million in the US market. Spectacle tends to be more profitable.

Plus, it can sometimes be really entertaining.

Not always though, "Paycheck" (2003) really sucked. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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08-17-12  03:34am - 4510 days #3
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Nor does Chow Yun-fat order a coffee while flying through the air in slow motion so he can twist mid jump and shoot 103 men with two nickel-plated pistols while a flock of doves flies off in the background. And yet, I'd still go see a new John Woo movie entitled "Office Target" featuring such a scene. I've enjoyed many a ridiculous extravaganza like most of John Woo's films. I also enjoyed "Italian for Beginners" (2000) which follows the tenets of Dogme 95, i.e. no special effects, even non-environmental background music.

So in regards to awkward poses in porn, simply put:

It. Is. Porn.

Some porn will be closer to reality but most will be a bit ridiculous because people are expecting a bit of spectacle. In that way porn is no different than the normal movie biz. "Italian for Beginners" grossed $4.4 million in the US market, while Woo's "Face/Off" (1997) grossed $112.2 million in the US market. Spectacle tends to be more profitable.




As always,Toadsith, I'm still amazed at your illustrious prose and confidant ease of expounding on worldly matters that are bought to the forum. They're always laced with such enlightened and downright interesting stuff.

I'll venture further out for a moment by saying your writing demeanor -- commendable as it is -- has the class of a James Bond character.... as he sets across the table at a bar sipping on his (shaken, not stirred) specialty, whilest on a mission, through his smooth dilivery, is inch by inch seducing this lady to end up in bed.
sort'a In the manner of a cat's control over a bird it's about to pounce upon.
That belately concludes the superlatives.

So in our case, dealing with an odd wanking maneuver, I think Toadsith just ain't gettin' my drift.
I mean, how can we associate a John Woo movie with a porn star who's doing wanking accobacics.

What we have here is one movie star titillating his viewers adventure lust with a superhuman guy wiping out bad guys as he flies through the air, and the other with simply a woman acting a solo part designed to appease a horney man's sexual appetite by getting him off.

Nice try Toadsith, but no cigar.

08-17-12  06:56am - 4510 days #4
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" Realistically: do you know, or have you ever known of any woman who actually uses that technique to get herself off? "

The position you describe as being unbelievable sounds as if she is fisting herself. That is an awkward act unless you're a contortionist. But then I've never been an in person voyeur to a female masturbation - go figure.

More realistic is Liv Wilder fisting Czech Republic beauty Nella, thus having an alien fist seems more realistic than fisting yourself. And she did get off I believe. It was adorable. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

08-17-12  04:35pm - 4510 days #5
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


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The position you describe as being unbelievable sounds as if she is fisting herself. .



Thanks for your reply, Jberry. Always a bonus getting your input. The way things are starting out, though, it looks like this thin thread might simply dry up and blow away.
Anyway, maybe I didn't explain it right about my contortionist-wanking. Its not "fisting" although that too needs to take a hike .... damned, the sheer crap those studio assholes throw at us anymore.
No, this is doggie style geared towards anal preference.
So, I'm saying, what she does is get down on her hands and knees, extend her arm under her abdomen, up between her legs, and after she's able to reach her clit, she raises her ass and remains in that position either using her fingers or a vibrator to feign orgasm ...... UNLESS, there's enough film left to again change position in mid-stream and go on to yet another technique, which is now pissing off the anal-lovers ... likely leaving their cocks also at half-mast.

I'd like to again honor and extend a reverant salute to one of PU's notable assets: Toadsith

08-17-12  09:50pm - 4510 days #6
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Originally Posted by graymane:


I'll venture further out for a moment by saying your writing demeanor -- commendable as it is -- has the class of a James Bond character.... as he sets across the table at a bar sipping on his (shaken, not stirred) specialty, whilest on a mission, through his smooth dilivery, is inch by inch seducing this lady to end up in bed.
sort'a In the manner of a cat's control over a bird it's about to pounce upon.


haha, I think that is the first time I've been likened to a Bond villain, but I'll take it


Originally Posted by graymane:


So in our case, dealing with an odd wanking maneuver, I think Toadsith just ain't gettin' my drift.
I mean, how can we associate a John Woo movie with a porn star who's doing wanking accobacics.

What we have here is one movie star titillating his viewers adventure lust with a superhuman guy wiping out bad guys as he flies through the air, and the other with simply a woman acting a solo part designed to appease a horney man's sexual appetite by getting him off.

Nice try Toadsith, but no cigar.


I may have gotten carried away with the Hollywood similes, but my point was simply this:

Expecting realistic and natural behavior in porn is going to leave one with dreams torn asunder by the tastes and desires of the teeming masses.

Most porn is designed to make it easy for the viewer to see genitalia and the positions that shed light on areas where the sun doesn't typically shine tend to be a might bit uncomfortable. I suppose that's why the performers are being paid.

A few sites have given female porn stars a camera and asked them to masturbate in private. The results are very different from mainstream porn, mainly, there is a lot less moving around and certainly no instances of the position you described, at least not in what I have seen. Two sites that I know have this product are Her Bedroom Window and abbywinters (the latter puts this content in their "Intimate Moments" category). The videos tend to consist of women sitting or lying on their back masturbating by hand or with a vibrating implement and that position is held for about 10 to 20 minutes with occasional breaks to adjust a pillow or other cushioning devices. Most viewers want more acrobatics in their porn than that and hence it is pretty damn rare.

If I were a betting man, and I'm decidedly not as the house always wins, I would bet that porn will always tend toward the spectacle even when we get life-size interactive holographic images projected into our living rooms. Oh yes, I believe the "Holodeck" will one day become a reality.

So, still no cigar? Eh? Eh?

In other news, ever run across the Freud's unedited quote?

Originally Posted by Sigmund Freud:

A cigar is sometimes just a cigar. However, in this case it is definitely a penis. The question is whose?


Also:
Originally Posted by graymane:

I'd like to again honor and extend a reverant salute to one of PU's notable assets: Toadsith


Aww, thanks! No need for the nice comments, but I can't say they aren't appreciated And props back to you for bringing up a variation on the topic that I haven't seen discussed before. Granted my commentary more falls into the meta topic addressed in your original post, but anything that acts as a catalyst for discussion is very appreciated! "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Edited on Aug 17, 2012, 09:54pm (Toadsith: Added the "Also" and following commentary.)

08-19-12  02:55am - 4508 days #7
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Yeah in reality women wouldn't go into this position to awkwardly pleasure herself but have to say I'm glad they choose to nothing really interests me much in a porn movie to watch a girl with a vibrator or fingers just in the same position, I like her to move around and see her from different angles to be honest.

but I'm really not into masturbation scenes, just doesn't do much for me. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE

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