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| 02-05-09 08:22pm - 5798 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Timeless Porn I have seen nowhere near the amount of porn that other users here have, and nowhere near the amount of classic porn either. Any of the classic porn I have seen (say, made 20 or more years ago as a rough guide) is sort of out of context since I saw it years after it was shot. So I was wondering: what porn, if any, do users consider timeless? That is, what has aged well, and is still as good, nearly as good, or even better than the first time they saw it? I am asking this as a question of what users think should be preserved for future generations of perverts, a sort of Global Porn Vault (like the Svalbard Global Seed Vault in Norway) in the event of some horrible electronic apocalypse, or a large scale disaster that depleted our current porn stocks. It seems to make sense to start with what classics we should preserve, then work our way up to more contemporary material, but any suggestions on work that could withstand the sands of time is welcome. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 02-05-09 11:27pm - 5798 days | #2 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Three classics from the 70s: Emmanuelle, Part 1 (1974) Emmanuelle, Part 2 (1975) Histoire d'O, aka The Story of O (1975) | |
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| 02-06-09 01:22am - 5798 days | #3 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
As a bit of a film buff I'd say they are all products of their time - besides all of the clothing, cars and hair styles that will place it in a set time, there is the cinematography and lighting, not to mention the story and so on. You get back into the 70's and 80's and you'll find a lot of porn films made by directors that still saw the porn they were making as story driven films with explicit sex. They knew they didn't have the same budget as Hollywood produced films, but they had enough of a budget for many days of on location shooting and took time to film establishing shots. Not mention that they expected their performers to actually memorize a script. Hell, the movie I'd recommend as the best single porn movie I've seen spent enough money for numerous helicopter shots, the rental of multiple high end cars (including a Ferrari) and a quite large mansion. Now the movie in question I would argue to be strictly a porn film and not a traditional film with explicit sex - as there are plenty of those made and still being made; "Lust, Caution" and "Romance" being two relatively recent movies that pop into mind as examples of that. In those the sex is a device of the plot, it moves the plot along - in this, the plot is a device of the sex, it provides opportunity and setting for the sex. What is interesting is that while the plot is really very minimal, they formed interesting dialogue that engages the viewer and allows the director to segue to a new time or location for a different sex scene. The writing makes the film seem a single entity rather than what it really is: a loose grouping of sex scenes. So while the story takes a back seat, it still has a very crucial role in the movie as a method for tying the scenes together. So combine that with reasonably believable actors, descent writing, impressive lighting and cinematography as well and natural, not excessively choreographed sex and you have a classic: "Insatiable" (1980) starring Marilyn Chambers "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 02-06-09 08:48am - 5798 days | #4 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Rabid (1977) Not really a porn film, but a good grade B horror movie with an interesting twist on violent sex (not the same as the abusive sex in current porn). Starring Marilyn Chambers. Written and directed by David Cronenberg. | |
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| 02-06-09 09:08am - 5798 days | #5 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Two porn performers whose stuff holds up incredibly well: Racquel Darrian - just because she was so freaking gorgeous. You can see all the kitchy elements of porn of that time in her stuff, the crazy big hair and ridiculous mullets on the guys, but you don't lose the heat because the woman is so freaking gorgeous. Oh, did I mention that she's freaking gorgeous? Ginger Lynn - One of those girls that is so pretty that it's still surprising that she did porn. She was like the prettiest cheerleader in high school type, she was a great performer, nastier & more enthusiastic than most girls performing at the same time so her stuff holds up remarkably well. Doubt me? Get a copy of Ball-Busters, an early vignette vid she was in, directed by Alex de Renzy. The first seconds of her sex scene, a close-up of her inhaling a cock down the base, is one of the best BJ vid shots of all time. And the whole scene is great, if rather brief. I saw this vid in theaters more times than any other porn vid. It's so good that it was being shown on double bills in Pussycat Theaters years after it's original release and I loved seeing that action on a big screen. | |
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| 02-06-09 10:52am - 5798 days | #6 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Yeah apparently the producer, Ivan Reitman recommended Chambers to provide the character with more sex appeal. At that point she been in both "Behind the Green Door" (1972) and "Resurrection of Eve" (1973) and the whole Ivory Soap debacle had broken already so a large portion of the public knew her name. Pretty savvy way to get people to see a small Canadian horror movie. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 02-06-09 12:38pm - 5798 days | #7 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
Getting away from movies for a second and moving towards websites, Private has a huge collection of older porn but they do a really poor job of displaying it plus there is the DRM issue with them. Rodox just doesn't have the quality although there is/was some interesting stuff there that was good. Colorclimax probably does the best of putting out a decent product with porn from 80's and 70's. As for specifics, I still get a kick out of Debbie Does Dallas and Behind the Green Door because those were probably some of the first porno's I saw. I like the idea of "Porn Seed Vault". Hell, why not put it in Norway ... of course if we did then that might be the first place the aliens would attack in hopes of crushing our moral. | |
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| 02-06-09 12:44pm - 5798 days | #8 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I would not consider any of these strictly porn just because they are pretty soft, but they are classics. I have seen a more recent one, "Emmanuelle's Intimate Encounters," which was made in 2000. It has a terrible plot but it stars Holly Sampson (aka Zoe from ALS Scan) pre-implants, and she looks incredible. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 02-06-09 01:00pm - 5798 days | #9 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I really liked "Romance" -- Caroline Ducey is a beautiful actress! Plus, including Rocco as a character makes for some interesting scenes. How do the French do it? Maybe it's just genetic, but they have made some fine films with explicit sex in them. Tinto Brass makes erotic comedies that I find very entertaining. His focus on the female behind, as well as his characters' constant pursuit of it, is hilarious and not entirely fictional either. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 02-06-09 01:58pm - 5798 days | #10 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
"Lust, Caution" (2007), a film with explicit sex highlighted by Toadsith, is extremely well-done. If you're not looking for porn but want a movie with high erotic content, that is a good choice. The heroine is gorgeous, and the story is interesting. A non-porn movie with some softcore sex, not a real classic, but interesting as an example of French horror/humor/sex, is Frankenstein '90 (1984). I really enjoyed the French take on this updated version of Frankenstein. | |
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| 02-06-09 02:19pm - 5798 days | #11 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Vampyres (1975) Starring: Marianne Morris, Anulka Dziubinska Director: José Ramón Larraz Cult horror classic with sex and blood. Considered porn at the time, but PU members would probably consider this soft-core today (too much story and not enough close-up of the sex, sex only a small part of the actual screen time). If you're into old-style horror, vampires, and lust, blood, this is a good bet. Anulka Dziubinska, one of the two vampires in this movie, was Playboy Playmate of the Month, May 1973. A gorgeous blonde. Great face, fantastic body. There are 2 dvd versions out. If you can get the Blue Underground version, that has a few more extras. I think both the Blue Underground and the Anchor Bay DVDs have a commentary by the director, which is both interesting and funny to hear. But the Blue Underground version also has interviews from several years ago with the two female stars, Anulka Dziubinska and Marianne Morris. Edited on Feb 06, 2009, 02:32pm | |
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| 02-07-09 12:09am - 5797 days | #12 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
I was amused to see Rocco getting a role in a high profile French art-house movie, though I must say it proved rather difficult for me to see him as his character as I kept expecting him to say "Nasty Nasty" or "Don't worry, it's ok, it will fit." Indeed Tinto Brass movies are a blast - totally ridiculous but man the guy knows how to pick 'em, definitely worth checking out for the perfect rears on display. "Monella" (1998) was a ton of fun, my favorite of the batch I've seen. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 02-07-09 04:38pm - 5797 days | #13 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Yeah, it's probably Rocco's gentlest role, and that's saying a lot for him. I loved "Frivolous Lola" (Monella); it is very lighthearted but dirty, and the pacing really makes for a fun viewing. The looks that the male characters -- including Brass in his typical dirty old man role -- give to Lola whenever she's around are priceless. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 02-07-09 06:41pm - 5797 days | #14 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I'll add to the list with David Cronenberg's Shivers. That movies entire premise is sex. There is a scene with Barbara Steele that involves a parasite and a bathtub. There was a kind of similar scene in the movie Tie me up Tie me down involving Victoria Abril a toy submarine and a bathtub. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 02-08-09 02:56am - 5796 days | #15 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Never saw Shivers (1975), but did see most of Cronenberg's other films. He is strong on violence and horror. Crash (1996) was a critically praised film he directed. The idea was that the violence and damage from car crashes unleashes/renews sexual energy. I did not enjoy Crash (1996). I liked the earlier pulp or grade B Cronenberg films much more, such as: Rabid (1977), the first film of Cronenberg I saw in a theater The Brood (1979) Scanners (1981) Videodrome (1983) By the time of The Dead Zone (1983) and The Fly (1986), Cronenberg had moved up to much bigger commercial projects, and his films are now nominated for Oscars and other awards, but they don't have the same impact on me as his early movies. The early films were, at the time, almost like a kick in the head. I saw Marilyn Chambers, star of Rabid (1977) and a bunch of famous porn films at a Glamourcon convention in Los Angeles a few years ago, and she still looks very good. Edited on Feb 08, 2009, 03:05am | |
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| 02-08-09 08:59am - 5796 days | #16 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
You have to see Sivers. You won't be disapionted. I've always thought that the bulk of his work has to do with science gone wrong. There is often an underling sexual theme as well. Let me add two more of Davids movies: Dead Ringer: 1988 Existenz: 1999 Marilyn Chambers is one of those rare stars that has had a porn career that spanned 3 decades. It's pretty amazing when you think about it. I don't think we will see many others with that kind of longevity. Of course by todays pornstars standard, she did very few movies. I counted 34 from 72 to 2007. That number is quite small when you condider that it's less than some pornstars do in a year. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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