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12-29-17  05:43pm - 2456 days Original Post - #1
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Jokes can be deadly.

Two points:
1. Police can shoot and kill innocent people, because police carry guns.
2. People can play jokes, that injure other people. Here's a case where a prank caused an innocent man to be killed. I've read recently that some Ohio teens threw a sandbag from an overpass and a passenger in a car was killed.

In October 2017, a different case:
Five teenage boys in Michigan could face life in prison if convicted of second-degree murder for allegedly throwing a rock at a van that went through the windshield and killed a passenger.





Alleged swatting hoax ends in the death of a father of two (updated)
Engadget Mallory Locklear,Engadget 2 hours 43 minutes ago


Yesterday evening, a 28-year-old Kansas man was shot by police after the station received a call about a hostage situation taking place at the man's residence. "It was a shooting call involving hostages," Deputy Police Chief Troy Livingston said during a press conference last night. "The original call, we were told that someone had an argument with their mother and dad was accidentally shot. And that now that person was holding mother, brother and sister hostage. We learned through that call that a father was deceased, and had been shot in the head. That was the information we were working off of." But that information turned out to be wrong and shortly after the incident, reports began to surface online that the call was part of a "swatting" stunt -- a hoax wherein someone makes a false police report in order to fuel a large law enforcement response.

Here's what seems to have gone down. Two individuals were playing Call of Duty and got into an argument online over a game with a $1.50 wager. One of them, a person with the Twitter handle @SWauTistic, threatened to swat user @7aLeNT. The latter then provided an address that wasn't actually their own in response to the threat. Shortly thereafter, @SWauTistic allegedly called in the false report, which led to a police response at the provided address. Andrew Finch, who lived at the address, reportedly went to the front door in response to the commotion and was shot. "As he came to the front door, one of our officers discharged his weapon," said Livingston. The police haven't said whether Finch had a weapon at the time, but his family has said there were no guns in the house. The officer who fired the shot is a seven-year department veteran who will be put on paid administrative leave pending an investigation.

Once the story began attracting media coverage, @SWauTistic tweeted that the house he swatted was on the news, which was then followed by a tweet saying he didn't get anyone killed because he wasn't the person who shot Finch.
(@mattcarries)

KrebsOnSecurity reports that the individual then changed his Twitter handle to @GoredTutor36, but not before KrebsOnSecurity got its hands on weeks' worth of the original account's tweets. The person behind the account has claimed credit for a number of swatting hoaxes and other threats including one that led to the evacuation of the Dallas Convention Center earlier this month, a bomb threat at a Florida high school in November and the threat that caused the FCC to pause its net neutrality vote a couple of weeks ago.

In direct message conversations with KrebsOnSecurity, the person running @GoredTutor36 said that they had remorse over Finch's death but that they would not be turning themselves in. "People will eventually (most likely those who know me) tell me to turn myself in or something. I can't do that; though I know its [sic] morally right. I'm too scared admittedly," they wrote. They also said, "Bomb threats are more fun and cooler than swats in my opinion and I should have just stuck to that. But I began making $ doing some swat requests." The person also noted that the thrill of such hoaxes "comes from having to hide from police via net connections."

Finch was a father of two children -- a two-year-old and a seven-year-old -- and his family said he didn't play video games.

Update: The Wichita Police department has confirmed this is an incident of SWATting, and released material including audio of the phone call that sent officers to Finch's door. Edited on Dec 29, 2017, 05:48pm

12-30-17  01:35am - 2456 days #2
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LA man arrested over 'swatting' incident that led to police killing Kansas man

Good Morning America MARK OSBORNE


Los Angeles police said they have arrested a 25-year-old man over the alleged prank call that led to police killing a man in Kansas on Thursday.

Tyler Barriss from South Los Angeles was arrested Friday, according to Los Angeles ABC station KABC.

The incident took place late Thursday when police were called about a supposed domestic incident at a Kansas man's home, where he had shot his father and was holding his other family members at gunpoint, police said in a press conference Friday. When police arrived, the man who opened the door was told to raise his hands -- a command he obeyed until he moved his hands down to his waist, police said.
Lisa Finch, surrounded by family members reacts to the killing of her son Andrew Finch after he was shot Thursday evening, Dec. 28, 2017, by police, in Wichita, Kan. Authorities are investigating whether the deadly police shooting stemmed from someon (The Associated Press)

The officer fired one round, striking and killing the man. Police entered the home and found four people inside alive.

Police did not identify the Wichita man killed in the incident on Thursday, but his mother identified him as 28-year-old Andrew Finch in an interview with the Wichita Eagle. Police confirmed Finch did not have a weapon on him when he was shot, nor did he make the 911 call.

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"Last evening's officer-involved shooting is a tragic and senseless act," Wichita Deputy Police Chief Troy Livingston said Friday. "The irresponsible actions of a prankster put people and lives at risk. The incident is a nightmare for everyone involved, including the family and our police department.

"Due to the actions of a prankster, we have an innocent victim."

Livingston said that they believe this was a case of "swatting." "Swatting" is a prank where an individual calls police about a serious violent crime at another home with the intent of police -- or a SWAT team -- showing up unannounced.

The Associated Press reported the FBI estimates about 400 cases of "swatting" happen every year.
Wichita police investigate a call of a possible hostage situation near the corner of McCormick and Seneca in Wichita, Ks Thursday night 12/28. A man was fatally shot by a police officer in what is believed to be a gaming prank called 'swatting.' (Fer (The Associated Press)

Wichita police released audio of the 911 call allegedly made by Barriss in which he calmly discusses that he shot his father and is holding his mother and younger brother hostage in a closet. He also says he's poured gasoline all over the house and may burn it down, to which the 911 operator responds, "We don't need that."

Police also released bodycam video of the incident, but it is filmed from across the street by a fellow responding officer and the actions of the officer and Finch are unclear.

The officer involved in the shooting has been placed on leave, which Livingston said was standard protocol.

"As you can imagine, this investigation is dynamic and complex and there's a lot of information to go through," Livingston said.

12-30-17  02:29am - 2456 days #3
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A couple of questions:

How can an unarmed man be shot dead by police for opening his front door?

If a prankster makes a 911 call in Los Angeles, California, and reports his address is in Wichita, Kansas, shouldn't the police be suspicious? Before sending out armed police to the Wichita, Kansas home, ready to shoot to kill any suspects who answer the front door?

Enquiring minds want to know.

Should cops be charged for a possible crime in a shooting with an unarmed victim, to reduce the number of people who are shot by cops?

Or should cops be given a free pass to shoot people, because they feel threatened and live in fear of possible criminals?

12-30-17  02:34am - 2456 days #4
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01-01-18  10:21am - 2454 days #5
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


A couple of questions:

How can an unarmed man be shot dead by police for opening his front door?



1-You realise that this question only gets asked if the man is white. Otherwise the victim and his family are shit out of luck.

2-If white police officers can repeatedly shoot unarmed black men and black children and get away with it than can anyone claim that there is justice for all in the US?

3-Way too many police forces in the US have access to weapons that they should never have had and even more have little if any training to use basic weapons.

Did you know that a police officer can be fired from one police force for incompetence/improper conduct and still get hired by another force elsewhere in the Country. You would think that the people hiring police officers would have a thorough background check made of their officers before they hire them but I guess you don't need it. It's not like they'll kill someone by mistake. Oh that's right they do. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-01-18  11:22am - 2453 days #6
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01-01-18  05:53pm - 2453 days #7
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Originally Posted by Onyx:


Doesn't sound correct to me. Shooting deaths get far more attention if they involve different races. If you are concerned with black citizens being killed, your criticism would be better directed at Chicago's politicians. The people in Chicago wish there were more police around. Would you mind giving the names of all these police officers you say have gotten away with shooting unarmed black citizens please? I'd like to look into it.


Check out this article to start with: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/natio...-20170701-story.html

But, quite honestly, you must have been sleeping the past several years, to not be aware of the huge number of unarmed Black people killed by police. Shit, there was that case in Cleveland where a police car rolled up on a 12-year-old boy who was playing with a toy gun in a playground and shot him to death within seconds - no charges! This country is pretty much as bad now in terms of legal lynching of Black people as it was during Jim Crow.

01-01-18  06:02pm - 2453 days #8
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01-02-18  12:45am - 2453 days #9
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Does a cop's badge give him the right to shoot people?
Does a cop's badge give him the right to break someone's leg?

Fucking right, it does.

How often are cops put in jail, after killing people?
Not very often, as far as I can tell.
I'm not citing statistics.
But most cases I've read in the newspapers, cops claim self-defense, if they shoot people.
Whether the dead person was armed or not.

Here's a case where a cop got angry, and threatened to break a teen's leg.
So the cop was evidently fired, after a 9 month investigation.
The police union will probably fight the firing.
Their position: The cop was only doing his job (apparently).

If the teen had not recorded the incident on his phone, I doubt the cop would have been in any danger of being fired.
Even with the video recording, it took 9 months before the cop was fired.







Minneapolis officer fired after video of him threatening to break teen's leg
By: Jonathan Choe

Posted: Jan 25 2016 05:24PM CST

Updated: Jan 26 2016 08:15AM CST

MINNEAPOLIS (KSMP) - Following a 9-month investigation, a Minneapolis police officer swearing and threatening on camera to break a teen's legs during a traffic stop has been fired. Now, the police union is planning to fight it.

The police department has not confirmed Officer Rod Webber’s termination, but a source close to the investigation said it was related to fallout from the video where he’s heard saying, “plain and simple, if you f*** with me, I'm going to break your leg before you get the chance to run. I'm being honest with you I don't screw around.”

In the video, the teen asks, “Can you tell me why I am being arrested?” -- Webber responds, “Because I feel like it.”


The incident happened in south Minneapolis last March when 17-year-old Hamza Jeylani hit record on his cell phone before being handcuffed. Jeylani, along with three young men, were suspected of grand theft auto but were eventually let go that day. The clip went viral and led to Weber's paid administrative leave and 9-month internal investigation.

Ward 5 councilman Blong Yang chairs the city's public safety committee and said the termination happened over of a code of conduct violation but would not elaborate -- “We can't really talk about much of the details, it's still an open case,” he said.

Minneapolis Police Union president Bob Kroll released a brief statement that said," the board is reviewing the case but I am confident that we will appeal the termination as it's unwarranted."

Charles Samuelson, with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), said he wants to know what motivated the officer to respond this way, and hopes the firing leads to change.

“It is refreshing to see that there are consequences for actions like this. But perhaps it will be a useful lesson for not only other peace officers, but a community as a whole,” Samuelson said.

Minneapolis Police Department has yet to release documents and possibly more videos of the incident. The union said Weber spent nearly 25 years with Minneapolis Police. Weber was unable to be reached for comment Monday.


Statement from Minneapolis Police Chief Janee Harteau:

"I cannot comment on pending matters due to data privacy laws, but speaking in general, the MPD is a professional, values-driven department committed to providing excellent service to our community. Public trust is a vital component to our ability to fully protect and serve the residents of Minneapolis. Officers will be held accountable if their actions are not consistent with our core values or the state's Law Enforcement Code of Ethics."

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