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| 09-28-09 02:13pm - 5470 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended  Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Why do you pay for porn? Need as many replies as possible to this. Would you spend money to join a pay-site that you know has its content posted on surfer forums, bit-torrents, tubes, etc? If so, why? I obviously have my own opinion, but wanted to hear yours. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder Edited by Staff on Sep 28, 2009, 03:22pm | |
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| 09-28-09 03:28pm - 5470 days | #2 | |
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Jeffrey99 (0)
Active User  Posts: 106 Registered: Nov 04, '08 Location: Good Ole Midwest USA |
My mine reason is, because then I know what I'm getting. I know exactly what resolution the images are. Whether I want to keep the whole zip or just certain images. What format/resolution the video is. Whether or not that video/images are the highest resolution available. I've tried the free sites. The tube sites video quality is horrible and not really worth my time. Really not worth actually downloading and keeping. As for forums, normally they are split up into 4-6 parts and normally using the hosting services they do, you can only download 1 part at a time. So to me, it's worth the $20-$30 a month to know exactly what quality content I'm getting and to be able to setup a que in a download manager of multiple files and just let it go. And not have to worry about only downloading 1 file every xx mins. | |
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| 09-28-09 03:36pm - 5470 days | #3 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I am looking for very specific material. Whilst fragments of what I am looking for may appear for free, I would rather have the complete photoset at a higher resolution. That is why I am willing & prepared to pay for it. Cap'n. :0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 09-28-09 03:54pm - 5470 days | #4 | |
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ControllingMind (0)
Suspended  Posts: 52 Registered: Jan 29, '09 Location: Inside An Unseen Force |
The benefits are that I can download whatever I want at my own leisure, having the whole catalogue of content to choose from there and then. Edited on Sep 28, 2009, 06:57pm | |
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| 09-28-09 03:54pm - 5470 days | #5 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
1. Image quality might be better. Sites that post free stuff sometimes have images (jpgs) that have been passed around so much that the quality is degraded. 2. Size selection: I get 1024's to 2000's of most of the pics, then really large sizes of my favorite ones. Can't be done at a free site. 3. New content. Free sites have stuff of all kinds, some of it really old. I'd rather join a site knowing (though certainly not always) that I'm getting new material without having to fish around through endless pages and wonder "Do I already have that?" 4. Accountability and improvements. Thanks to PU, there are pay sites that have improved after taking user input seriously. Could that happen with a free site? I doubt it. 5. Far fewer cyber-annoyances such as pop-ups and blind links. Free sites can do whatever they wish; so I avoid them. 6. Keeping the business going. If everyone just went for free sites, the whole business would dry up and disappear. Then we'd have free site archives, period. You have to to contribute some dough to get all of the above in return. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 09-28-09 05:07pm - 5470 days | #6 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
To the first question, the answer is that the good stuff isn't free. After years of filling drives from P2P and Torrents, I found that getting exactly what I'm looking for, in (usually) better quality, made it worth putting out some cash. As to the second question, if I said that I would rather get the content free from somewhere else, do I get a letter from a bunch of sharks? I mean lawyers? Actually, I handle porn downloading like I do music. With music, if I find something I really like, I buy the CD. If I find some porn outside of a site that I like, I'll go to the site and see what's what. Like Cap'n mentioned, it's about getting full sets or more content in the niche you're looking for. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. Edited on Sep 29, 2009, 12:47am | |
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| 09-28-09 06:32pm - 5470 days | #7 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I think that the main reason why you should pay for porn is that if you don't pay for it and the next guy doesn't pay for it then very soon there won't be any new porn. It's true that some sites charge too much for their content but on the other hand. If you download 1/3 to 1/2 their library for free then it can't have been all that bad in the first place. I don't know if anybody else has noticed it but quite a few sites have slowed their updates and some simply don't update anymore. I'm not talking little mom and pop sites but some big players. Part of the problem is that it cost money to make money so if part of your content is stolen by file sharing sites, and part of your paying customer base is struggling to feed themselves and their family so porn is not really an option then you get what is happening to the industry. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 09-28-09 07:12pm - 5470 days | #8 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I am looking for the better material that you almost never see for free. I also have downloaded videos that were mislabelled. You never know what you get, but it seldom is worth the slow downloads either. Additionally, the quality is far too poor for my taste. | |
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| 09-28-09 08:04pm - 5470 days | #9 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
No one has mentioned the Usenet. Every ISP of importance would also offer a news server at one time that carried the usenet, which contained tons of alt.binaries newsgroups that catered to every taste. The quality of pictures and videos obtained from there was as good as that of the pay sites. Most ISPs have dropped their usenet binaries sections in the meantime lest they or their users get sued by the big boys, but there are some commercial servers left that charge a monthly rate. I can't be bothered to subscribe to something that has become a swamp of spam, with only a few groups left that aren't dysfunctional and still carry decent material. To answer Rick's question: Even though I could get many things free when my ISP still carried binaries I would nevertheless go and subscribe to a pay site because no matter how much "pirated" material was being posted on the Usenet it still acted mostly as a teaser because the posters were selective (their personal taste) in what they posted and the average user always wished he could go to the site itself and look at the whole works at his leisure. I've always seen the material in the Usenet as good propaganda for the pay sites. Just two examples, some picture sets that found their way into one of my then favorite binaries groups led me straight to Abby Winters and ATK, one of the two earliest paysites because I wanted more. Sometimes the much maligned usenet can be great advertisement for the paysites. Sometimes I even wondered if they planted the teaser sets themselves. :-) | |
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| 09-28-09 09:12pm - 5470 days | #10 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Thanks to everyone who has replied so far. Please keep them coming and keep this thread alive as long as possible. This type of information is invaluable to us. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 09-28-09 10:34pm - 5470 days | #11 | |
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hodayathink (0)
Active User Posts: 312 Registered: Mar 27, '09 Location: Illinois |
To support companies that consistently make content that I like. By spending my money on it, I feel like I'm telling that company "Hey, go make more content like this, because I'll buy it." | |
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| 09-29-09 01:01am - 5470 days | #12 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I've noticed this. RookieBabe, Finest Models, Rigin-Studio, TorridArt, ATK Galleria, European Glamour Girls, JustTeenSite, Babelicious, SexyBabes, ... all have either stopped or cut back. Rigin was once a day with zips, but he's now about once every 3-4 days with no zips at all in response to the free sites. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Sep 29, 2009, 12:37pm | |
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| 09-29-09 02:13am - 5470 days | #13 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
TorridArt is still updating regularly. They are not a big player so updates are not as frequent as the norm. They are still going strong though! ;0) I didn't want your post to put folk off joining, because the more folk that do, the better chance of the site growing & updates increasing. Cap'n. :0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 09-29-09 07:05am - 5470 days | #14 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Why pay for porn? Because nothing is free in this world. Even many of the forums that exist through pirating pay materials will ask their members to help pay for the costs of servers or will have crazy intrusive ads that take you away from their site every 15 seconds. It's in my interest to pay for sites that I think are putting up great material in a consistent way and are offering great deals to join. It would not be in my interests to join the "only morons pay for porn" club and let those sites wither and die for lack of membership while I harvest all the pirated material I can find around the internet. On the other hand, I discovered most of my favorite sites through sample sites or Yahoo groups that post porn or forums that post porn. That's a valid reason for these forums' existence - to be advertising for the sites doing great work. Then it's up to the recipients of that material as to whether they want to help the sites survive or just want to feast on the free stuff. | |
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| 09-29-09 08:05am - 5470 days | #15 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
If the pay sites ceased to be profitable & closed, it wouldn't be too long before the free stuff stagnated too. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 09-29-09 08:27am - 5470 days | #16 | |
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monty2222 (0)
Active User  Posts: 49 Registered: Feb 20, '09 Location: Denmark |
Well, a lot of my reasons have already been mentioned by others. First, I don't have an unlimited amount of time to surf for porn. And even if I had I wouldn't want to spend all those hours wading through ads, pop-ups, dead links and other crap just to get some free clips of something that might not be what I was actually looking for. Secondly, I like to support the people who produce the stuff I like, even if my 'support' in the big picture is just a drop in the ocean for them. I essentially feel the same way about porn as I do about music (except my porn collection isn't proudly on display in the living room...) all those 200+ albums I own I've bought legally, having pirated copies just wouldn't be the same in many ways. I'm after all supposed to be some sort of fan of those musicians. Likewise I for instance find most lesbian porn to be boring I-do-you you-do-me dildo fucking with a very phony feel to it, stealing from the few who try to go beyond that and produce something I really enjoy would just seem both stupid and ungrateful. Paying is just easier, I can be (reasonably) sure I get what I'm looking for and I won't feel bad about taking something I'm not entitled to. | |
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| 09-29-09 09:16am - 5470 days | #17 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I think with Porn you get what you pay for is accurate. Free stuff is either crap or is degraded video. Kinda like trying to watch cable porn with squiggly lines. just doesn't cut it. I think the quality at this point for me, not the garbage they turn out in sites like Reality Kings and Bang Bro's my opinion is those sites are just to unrealistic as much as I know they are trying to say its real. So back to what I was saying, is be picky and you will be happy, or just rack up that credit card until you find what you like. Me most of my collection now is high quality pics and vids with stunning video quality. I faded away from the grab all the porn I can. I take time off come back and do that and it works well to renew the interest. When I get bored I tend to settle for cheap porn. So I don''t settle if I can help it. Cybertoad Since 2007 | |
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| 09-29-09 11:22am - 5469 days | #18 | |
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atrapat (0)
Active User  Posts: 182 Registered: Apr 19, '08 Location: Non-USA |
Over the years, I've often felt more inclined to join solo sites of models I've liked. Usually, because you can't get by free means the interaction; even if the site offers little of it, no board or p2p system carries text files with diary entries, forum digests or gets you access to chats and live shows. I rarely stay more than a month and, even if there's no interaction and few content, I rarely feel cheated because, following some twisted logic, I think I am supporting the model a little bit. I believe I'm long past the phase of downloading free porn for the sake of it but I can't help but admit that many pay sites should learn from some free sites in terms of describing the content (keywords, previews and metadata in general) and making it findable. | |
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| 09-29-09 11:47am - 5469 days | #19 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Their archives continue to grow. I think it's a pretty good site overall. But what I said, which is that they've cut back on updates, is true. They used to post three times a week. They've said themselves that the reduction was due to the economy. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 09-29-09 12:40pm - 5469 days | #20 | |
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GCode (0)
Active User  Posts: 386 Registered: Feb 23, '09 Location: USA |
I have a few reasons after downloading from P2P places in my early college days, buying DVD's, renting DVD's, then eventually just buying porn from sites. Here are my reasons: #1: The time issue. Buying at least a one month stay gives me enough time to shift through the whole site and find what content I want, at that given time. At the free places, you get what is posted and that's all. A one month's stay gives enough time with the right amount of content that I want. On a side note, this is why I hate trials. You may save money, but the pressure to find content you like is way too disruptive to the pleasure of the search. #2: As kind of stated in #1, you know what you are getting. The free sites never have ALL the content or maybe even the content you want. Joining a site gives you the chance to get everything a site has to offer. #3: Updates. If you joined the site - you obviously like the content. At the free sites, you don't get every single update like you would be getting as a member. Paying obviously lets you access these and you can get everything the day it comes out. #4: The price actually isn't that bad. Honestly, while I wish the standard $29.95 would become $19.95, this is still not that bad for most sites. Honestly, This usually calculates to less than or about a $1 USD a day. C'mon, that's cheap really. I can drop $100 a night at a bar or just going out in general. #5: Quality. If you know what the highest stats the site has to offer, you know you are getting it. Many of the free sites will offer the low res quality which are almost unbearable to watch. When paying, you know you can get the best the site has to offer. You can get the whole zip (if offered) of the highest res the site has and you know you are getting that exactly. This really makes viewing and downloading porn way more pleasurable. #6: As a porn fan, you get to view what others think of most sites. Usually, there is an active community to discuss or even requests can be made for the site. Such as, bring a certain model back, wanting to see a scene, and so on. Obviously, only a paying member can do this. #7: A huge reason stated by most, is well, if you love the site why not let them know by getting them some money for support. If you want the content to keep coming, they need money to do it. While free content may disrupt this, there are always going to be a bunch of people who will join for the reasons above and more. I have done all sorts of things to get my porn fix but I have found just forking over a small amount of money (in my opinion) for the reasons above is just easier and more gratifying. There will always be scumbags who look for free shit because they think it's easier but I find these people to be casual viewers who would not help a site to begin with. However, I think a lot may start with those free sites, find content they like, want more but cannot get it, and may even eventually pay. As long as they really want the good stuff, they know they have to pay. My 2 cents.... Sexted From My iPad | |
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| 09-29-09 01:12pm - 5469 days | #21 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Yes, I agree, that is true; but your original post may give the impression they had gone static. I just wanted to clarify that they hadn't, as that might put folk off joining. Cap'n :0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 09-29-09 04:33pm - 5469 days | #22 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Almost everyone has already stated what I think but let me reinforce the benefit of a pay site: quality! Quality, quality, quality -- I cannot emphasize this enough! It's bad enough that the thieves (and that's what they are) uploading to these sites are sharing someone else's material, but they frequently break up videos and photo sets. To me this is not only irritating but a clear reflection of the asinine carelessness of these free sites. I am sure almost everyone likes getting something for nothing, but I can't think of a single site that is shooting content pro bono just so it can be ruined by whoever wants to share it. A lot of people put a lot of effort into finding, booking, and shooting models with (we hope) decent lighting, sets, equipment, etc., and the asking price for the vast majority of the end product is, as GCode mentioned, usually less than dollar a day. PU is proof that there are those that care about all this, and when it is done well we let in be known in reviews and comments. I do care whether a site actually cares about not only what but also how it shoots. Even when I disagree with the content or the approach of a site, I can still appreciate the amount of time and effort that went into it, which is all lost in resorting to a free 'tube or torrent site. Yes, there are a lot of sites that just slap together content as quickly and as haphazardly as possible in the hopes that customers will be too horny to care, but they are not worth it. But when a site works to make something worthy of paying customers, it should not be ripped off. Hey, I still hate most of the times a film is broadcast on TV knowing it is going to be censored, panned, scanned, and just flat out degraded. I know there is at least one audiophile PUer who was complaining about how difficult it was to find an mp3 player that could play uncompressed audio files. If something is worth paying for then pay for it, don't steal it. It's not called a business for nothing. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 09-29-09 06:08pm - 5469 days | #23 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User  Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
I answered this a long time ago. I join sites because I like them. I like to be in the site, and explore it, use the search engine for performer, title, etc. I like sites that are interactive where you can leave comments, or chat in a forum. Every site has it's content online for free. The people that use that will never join a site. They want everything for free, software included. I don't download porn for the sake of downloading it. That's boring. | |
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| 09-30-09 09:14am - 5469 days | #24 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Some (many?) do, jd. The free stuff on the usenet made me hungry for more and I ended up subscribing to pay sites. The usenet, as I mentioned above, is now a thing of the past for me because subscribing to a pay site, if it is a good one, is a far superior experience. | |
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| 09-30-09 09:11pm - 5468 days | #25 | |
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kkman112 (0)
Active User Posts: 56 Registered: Mar 31, '07 Location: United States |
First of all, you can't get (at least for most) ALL of a site's content on some free site nor can you continue to get regular updated content. I rarely, if ever, go to those tube sites for content because they degrade the video quality in order to stream them thousands of time without overloading their servers. I use bit-torrent more as an advertising resource. Many sites have really poorly designed previews that rarely ever show the content as it is in the members area. So I do download some stuff. If I like content from a certain site I consider joining then. I continue to do some research (on sites like this) and if I have the spare cash and am in the market for it I will probably join the site. I do have some specific criteria though: I don't join a site month-to-month. If it doesn't have a 6-month or 12-month pay-ahead option I typically do not join. I would rather pay once and not worry about it (plus pay-ahead plans typically give you a decent "loyalty" discount compared month-to-month plans). Also, the video has to be at least DVD quality for me to even consider it. As bandwidth gets cheaper and servers continually get faster I expect at this point that any worthy site have DVD to HD quality video. Anything less is a rip-off to me and something you could surely get on a cheesy free tube site. | |
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| 10-01-09 03:35pm - 5467 days | #26 | |
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ControllingMind (0)
Suspended Posts: 52 Registered: Jan 29, '09 Location: Inside An Unseen Force |
Are filesharing sites etc helping the porn industry more than the porn industry care to admit? I mean judging by the responses on this thread, people have sampled from the darkside first and then ended up joining paysites afterwards. | |
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| 10-01-09 04:11pm - 5467 days | #27 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Ah, interesting. ;) I think the industry is threatened by tubes more than anything else, especially those that allow user posted videos (which are usually illegally posted). More or less, producers feel violated when their content is re-published without their control or permission. For sure the $$ has dried up considerably in 2009. There's much less to go around and the factors are debated all the time. Either way, the economy and tubes seem to be a major contributor to the decline. I also believe the increase in shady/greedy billing practices (sometimes outright fraud) can't be ignored. Producers are quick to blame piracy for the downfall. Nobody can deny they are being ripped off. But piracy has existed ever since the beginning, even during the golden era of porn. Judging the opinions in here so far, maybe it isn't as big of a threat as they perceive. Fact is, real fans will fork over the card! The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 10-01-09 04:22pm - 5467 days | #28 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Perhaps the future lies more in niche marketing. As you inferred tubes are a factor, but they are pretty much mainstream, mainly hardcore content. The mainstream is flooded. Perhaps find yourself a niche, produce good quality content & stick with the formula when it is successful, is the way forward? I hope so ;0) Cap'n. :0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 10-01-09 05:23pm - 5467 days | #29 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
I have to admit, I hate "tube" sites. Most of them are spammed up, and I'm not a big fan of streaming video, at least not for porn. | |
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| 10-01-09 06:22pm - 5467 days | #30 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
This is a very good point because if you like the content that you just downloaded for free and you want more. You may very well pay to see what else is available on the site. The downside is if the content you just downloaded for free is crap then why would you pay to see more. From that perspective. It does make file sharing the enemy of crappy site owners. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 10-03-09 03:34am - 5466 days | #31 | |
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james4096 (0)
Suspended Posts: 132 Registered: Mar 02, '09 |
Why pay for porn? 1. The free stuff just gives you a small taste and it's lower in quality. 2. When it comes to he pirated stuff like newsgroups and torrents, your choices are limited. You can only get the stuff that others have posted and you can manage to find. Porn is not like music where every new CD gets released on a torrent a week before it hits the store. 3. It's just easier to join a website be downloading gigs of porn in no time. In addition to having to hunt for free porn, the downloads aren't as fast. 4. In addition to the "cyber-annoyances" drooler mentioned, it's just riskier surfing free sites than legitimate porn sites. Those free sites have no accountability so you're more likely to encounter scams and malware. 5. I don't see how someone with a porn addiction could resist paying for porn, especially on the internet. You need more and you need it now. Back in the early to mid 90's, before video was common, free was the way to go. There had to only be a few pay porn sites, and most people were still afraid to use their credit card online. You could go on a bbs, chatroom or newsgroup and be bombarded with pics in no time. You had to go through everything and delete the really disgusting stuff or duplicates, but that was part of the fun. Now we have thousands of sites offering HD video through our broadband connections. There's a lot of good stuff out there to be bought and it's cheaper than what people used to pay for VHS tapes. | |
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| 10-03-09 04:43am - 5466 days | #32 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
All valid points there, James. Cap'n. :0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 10-03-09 10:55am - 5465 days | #33 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
This comment really resonated with me. I spent my first few years as an internet user browsing free sites with a sluggish modem connection. I didn't trust credit card billing, though I wasn't as paranoid as the established media of the time was trying to get people to be through their own propaganda. Finally, in 2001, I'd had it with the free sites, with the fucking multitudes of pop-ups and freeze-ups and crappy quality. Joined my first pay site, and once I saw that I could do it without (always) being ripped off, I was on my way. And things are a LOT better now than they were then! One thing that really helped was when Microsoft FINALLY started taking seriously the security holes in their OS's. Funny how the first pay site I ever joined was Mac&Bumble, back before they had the zips they now charge a high premium to access (LOL). And now is the first time in a while I've even thought about that site. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 10-03-09 03:03pm - 5465 days | #34 | |
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OneMan (0)
Active User Posts: 29 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: Europe |
There is also the problem of never being 100% sure, exactly what you're downloading on torrents etc......VERY dodgy and could land you in a heap of trouble. | |
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| 10-04-09 05:53am - 5465 days | #35 | |
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james4096 (0)
Suspended Posts: 132 Registered: Mar 02, '09 |
I was thinking about the exact question again.
So let's say there is a porn website and we know we can get all the current content at the same quality the site offers in some sort of free download elsewhere. That would make it more difficult for me to want to pay. In that case here are only two reasons why I would pay. First, if it were much, much more convenient to download from the original paysite. And second, if I really loved the content and had positive feelings toward the company and felt I should give my support. I wouldn't feel that bad "stealing" porn from a site that grossly overcharged, ripped people off or just provided mediocre content. Admittedly it might not be right to steal something I have some use for, however IMHO some things are not worth one dime no matter how much money or time was put into them. But this is just hypothetical because like I said before the amount of pirated porn you can find on the net is nowhere near the amount of pirated movies and CD out there. The library at Videobox and the like is larger, much easier, quicker and better than the DVD rips you might find on torrents. Sometimes paying is the better deal. | |
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| 10-04-09 09:18am - 5465 days | #36 | |
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ControllingMind (0)
Suspended Posts: 52 Registered: Jan 29, '09 Location: Inside An Unseen Force |
Yes it would, especially if you could download the best quality content from that porn website without the many download restrictions that paysite members now have to endure. | |
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| 10-04-09 09:28am - 5465 days | #37 | |
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ControllingMind (0)
Suspended Posts: 52 Registered: Jan 29, '09 Location: Inside An Unseen Force |
Yes, especially at discounted prices! | |
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| 10-05-09 08:28am - 5464 days | #38 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User  Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
Most of my thoughts have already been covered in the first 37 posts. For me the most important is simplicity. And when I'm ready for a set of big tits, I know I can get my rocks off with DDF Busty, Brazzers, Bang Bros, etc. If I want to explore every detail of female bodies in extreme closeups, I can go to one of the DEV8 sites, etc. I don't have to worry about getting a virus or giving out my IP address to some scumbag out there. I don't have to learn new protocols. And I pay so little compared to what I paid back only 5 to 10 years ago to rent/buy videos and the profitability of the better sites only encourages more creativity and quality. | |
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| 10-08-09 07:10pm - 5460 days | #39 | |
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anyonebutme (0)
Active User  Posts: 294 Registered: Aug 23, '09 |
I pay for porn because I am at a point where 9 times out of 10 I know if I will like or not like a video from the preview. It's not a gamble anymore. And it just seems to make the whole experience more enjoyable when obtaining the works from the site directly. Porn will always cost a lot of money to create and I'm not opposed to throwing a few dollars their way. However as I read this thread, a lot of people are underestimating the changes that have gone on in the piracy world over the past year... | |
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| 10-08-09 11:01pm - 5460 days | #40 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Um, to the person who said that you can't get all of a sites content on free sites or get updates. I can tell you for a fact that I know where I can get every bit of most sites' content for free - and get the updates the same day or the next. It's the internet, my friends - it's all out there. I make the choice to join sites despite all that for all the reasons that I have said. Despite the rantings of the "only morons pay for porn" crowd, I believe that it would be moronic to let great sites go down the tubes because you would rather be an asshole and rip them off than pay for the material that you think is so great. | |
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| 11-01-09 04:04pm - 5436 days | #41 | |
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picdude (0)
Active User Posts: 107 Registered: Dec 26, '08 Location: Italy |
I read this and totally agree with it (it's about music but kinda applies here) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-music-obey-law.html Before p2p I spent probably a tenth of what I do now, the times I've stopped using p2p I've also stopped buying stuff. Generally It's not a case of oh I won't pay for it but that I can check out things I wouldn't normally buy, the fact i've downloaded it doesn't mean it's a lost sale, I wasn't going to buy it, But for the stuff I have checked and thought wow thats awesome I've brought. You may say that without p2p I would of brought stuff but I know as a fact I really would of brought a hell of a lot less on movies,music,porn etc. There are a couple of sites I know for a fact I wouldn't of joined if it wasn't for p2p. How could you keep me interested but yet stop p2p? Much better tours with all updates there and good preview videos for each scene. | |
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| 11-04-09 02:19pm - 5433 days | #42 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User  Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Well, I pay because I know what I am getting up front, I can preview the scene before I download it, it's much easier than depending on others(torrents)to assure you that you will even get the file(seeders who take off), I like to surf pornsites to see what I want, like a chick when they go shopping, and the most important part is, there aren't many torrents out there that cater to the genres of porn that I like(ie. BJ Only, POV, Virtual Sex). I can say that it's getting harder and harder to bring myself to pay for porn these days, with every site on the block wanting to charge you $29.99, even brand new untested sites, I am on the cusp of saying "fuck you" to paying for porn and going back to my old ways because it seems that pornsite webmasters are becoming masters of deception and trickery and the more this happens the more likely I will go back to underhanded tactics of porn collecting. So, in short, I pay for porn because to me, it's the better and more easier way to go. | |
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| 11-04-09 10:54pm - 5433 days | #43 | |
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WeeWillyWinky (0)
Active User  Posts: 243 Registered: Jun 03, '07 Location: Havasu City, AZ USA |
I pay for "porn" (albeit ninety percent softcore) because I value the opportunity to admire beautiful women and I DO NOT mind paying for something I value, nor do I mind that the people who produce something I value should want to be paid for it. I expect them to, and I respect them for it. This includes models, photogs, videographers, and all the people who work to produce a commodity which I enjoy. I still surf TGPs for numerous freebies (which I believe are put out by the major sites themselves, by and large?), and image-hosting sites for amateur stuff. I don't dabble in the file-sharing thing, or torrents (don't even know what they are), or tube. I have seen a few bits and pieces on youtube of various quasi-porn material. Basically, the more money the big guys have the better sites they will be able to produce, and that benefits everyone, from top to bottom. I just joined JSex Network and for a small chunk of change I have a month's access to more porn than I had access to during the entire 1980's. And better quality. Even as late as the ninetees, I would never have believed that 30 bucks plus change would grant me access to truckloads of adult material. Pay the big guys a little, they pay you back in spades. At least the good ones. Of course there are crooks in the mix, but sites like this can sort them out. "The snake has his own way among us." - Robert Duncan, American poet. You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! | |
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| 11-25-09 11:15pm - 5412 days | #45 | |
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Belthazar (0)
Active User Posts: 27 Registered: Jan 13, '07 Location: Prague |
I have a small obssesion nowdays - I look for films and clips of Mocha and her sister Chocolate - and because it is quite old material - it is much more easier to find it on pay sites than on free forums etc. - had a few before - Marie LUV, Gauge or Felecia If You know where to look for "free" porn - it is unbeliveable quantity (even HD), but no qality. I thing that problem is that there are no real pornstars nowadays. Women: Different hardware, same software | |
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| 11-27-09 11:27am - 5410 days | #46 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
For me it's having confidence that I'm getting what I'm paying for. Getting it for free I'd give up some control. Quality is assured, there is less change of a virus, and, as stated before, I prefer to support companies that make porn so they can keep doing what they do best. | |
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| 12-10-09 01:55pm - 5397 days | #47 | |
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davidx (0)
Active User  Posts: 6 Registered: Dec 10, '09 Location: toronto |
Once I find a niche that works for me I commit to it. My niche only lasts a little while then I get bored then I just to another website. After all what is 10 to 15 dollars a month when it comes to porn I have to see everything I hate that side angle crap! | |
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| 12-10-09 02:43pm - 5397 days | #48 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
Just wanted to say "Hi" to Davidx and welcome to the forum. It's always good to have a new voice around here. Look forward to hearing from you more. | |
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| 02-27-10 10:18pm - 5318 days | #49 | |
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pornwatcher (0)
Suspended Posts: 51 Registered: Jun 25, '08 Location: US |
Because it is just too much hassle to download from rapid share or what have you. You don't know what you are going to get exactly and they limit how many you can download in a given day or hour. Tube sites are OK for occasion but not a solution since they tend to be very low quality and saving to a hard drive requires extra work or extra software. | |
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| 02-28-10 08:38pm - 5317 days | #50 | |
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markfx (0)
Active User Posts: 21 Registered: Sep 28, '09 Location: Oakland, Ca |
To me, the more important question is why would you maintain an ongoing membership? I usually join a set group of sites every 7,8 or 9 months or so. I join for just the one month and enjoy all the previous months' updates for the price of only one month membership. I abhor the infrequent updates that some sites determine is their business model: one solo performer site only updated a few times the entire month! I would rather wait a few months and view the updates and then decide to join, hit and run! | |
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| 03-14-10 12:42pm - 5303 days | #51 | |
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xbigvmanx (0)
Active Webmaster  Posts: 3 Registered: Oct 30, '08 Location: Naples, Italy |
No pop ups, No viruses, reliable connection, exclusives, Legitimancy. Thats my reasons for paying. I just think its preferable because your getting the whole thing. Like why do people buy original DVDs compared to something that pirated? | |
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