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08-06-13  06:40pm - 4118 days Original Post - #1
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Another syphilis outbreak.

A story broke a couple of days of another syphilis outbreak in the porn industry. The info is coming down in trickles so if you are curious then check the below link for more info.

http://www.mikesouth.com/ Long live the Brown Coats.

08-06-13  09:56pm - 4117 days #2
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I don't care how "inside" he is, I don't trust Mike South to present any news in a way that is unbiased.

08-06-13  10:06pm - 4117 days #3
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Hmmm Since 2007

08-12-13  05:19pm - 4112 days #4
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When you thought it couldn't get any worse for the porn industry. There's a high probability that a male performer tested positive for an STD in June of this year. The news is quite fresh so you have to take the following info with a grain of salt but it would appear that he tested positive for Hep C but that the info was never shared with his agent or any of the producers and that he might have worked after the test was done. The original lab simply tagged him as unavailable which can mean many things. I recommend you read the story on the below link as it explains everything. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-13-13  06:27am - 4111 days #5
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I think this is why ( was recently asked) but porn and condoms are the wave. HepC is no joke people can even die from it and have irreversible liver damage.
It is transmitted by blood which in its self makes you wonder how they got it. There is treatment but no cure for HEPC.
Ironically your body can cure C on its own, even B has this ability in the bodies ability.

Vaginal tearing, or anus tearing can make a person open to infection of the liver.
Blood in semen can also as well as open sores.
And of course sharing sharps, (needles, razors etc.)

Sex is dangerous in Porn and dating. I am glad I don't date anymore, you get all hot and and the mind forgets to protect yourself. I lost friends back in the 80's to Aids and its not fun to see others die. The industry needs to protect its stars and the industry from the STD stigma of the 1970,s and 80's Since 2007

08-13-13  04:19pm - 4111 days #6
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I will never understand the big problem people have with condoms in porn.

If you want porn to have a future, I think it's time for condoms in all porn.

08-13-13  05:46pm - 4111 days #7
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Originally Posted by gaypornolover:


I will never understand the big problem people have with condoms in porn.

If you want porn to have a future, I think it's time for condoms in all porn.


Ya I agree GPL, seem its going to be the wave of the future as dying and STDs are not good for a struggling industry. Since 2007

08-13-13  06:35pm - 4111 days #8
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^&^^ I really don't know why people don't like condoms in porn but I also think that it's the future of porn. Now if there is anyone that would prefer that there be no condoms in porn then you better get used to the idea that it's that or no porn at all.

This is 2013 when Government can't keep secret projects secret anymore so imagine how hard it's going to be for the porn industry to keep secret the fact that maybe 90% of all the current performers have had at least one STD in their career and that many of them have herpes(something that is still incurable). Most girls will refuse to work with anyone unless there is a condom or they will do like many have recently done and leave the industry. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-14-13  12:24am - 4110 days #9
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"...I don't trust Mike South to present any news in a way that is unbiased."

He doesn't work for Fox news, does he? Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

08-14-13  06:46am - 4110 days #10
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I think MSNBC is were was last paid same anyways media sources now days are a joke, they report only what their biased friends tell them to.
It seems Liberals pick on Fox and Conservatives pick on CNN.
To me doing my own research on stories if you use CNN, MSMBC, or FOX as a reliable new source. You will get straight up biased or in other words what you want to hear news not the truth.
I have been alive long enough to see the main stream media make up where they were, what occurred and who did what.
and CNN, MSMBC & FOX are all guilty as sin. I love to watch as they switch, one month they are for this and six months later they are against it. The news stations should report the news. Now all it is are opinions of the story designed to state their producers political adgenda.
I miss when it was the news and I decided what I felt.
Now its they tell you what to feel. Since 2007

08-14-13  09:33am - 4110 days #11
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08-14-13  08:09pm - 4109 days #12
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


"...I don't trust Mike South to present any news in a way that is unbiased."

He doesn't work for Fox news, does he?


He does get legitimate inside news, but he will always present it with his own little spin, making sure that it furthers his ideas of what is going on, or what needs to happen.

And Hepatitis C is not an STD. It can be passed by sex in some instances, and you probably shouldn't be performing with, but it is not, by definition, a sexually transmitted disease. To me, calling it an STD would be like calling the flu an STD.

08-15-13  05:04am - 4109 days #13
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Actually I thought, that syphilis was one one the eradicated diseases - or extremely rare - at least in the western part of the world.
But ok, not good.... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

08-15-13  03:52pm - 4109 days #14
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Originally Posted by hodayathink:


And Hepatitis C is not an STD. It can be passed by sex in some instances, and you probably shouldn't be performing with, but it is not, by definition, a sexually transmitted disease. To me, calling it an STD would be like calling the flu an STD.


Although you are correct on all front. You are basing your info on your average person who does not have sex with strangers on a regular basis and more importantly has not contacted multiple std's in their life. This last part is why Hep C is more dangerous for porn performers because this is the dark secret that is never spoken about. Most of them have had more than one std in their career and they are therefore more susceptible to catching something like Hep C. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-15-13  06:43pm - 4108 days #15
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Although you are correct on all front. You are basing your info on your average person who does not have sex with strangers on a regular basis and more importantly has not contacted multiple std's in their life. This last part is why Hep C is more dangerous for porn performers because this is the dark secret that is never spoken about. Most of them have had more than one std in their career and they are therefore more susceptible to catching something like Hep C.


Actually, I would argue that a performer is more likely to catch something like Hep C because tearing (vaginal or anal) is much more likely to happen during a porn scene than it is during regular sex due to various things like the size of the average porn penis, the length of the sex, and the style of sex being had (generally speaking, as deep and as fast as possible). Though previous STD might increase the likelihood somewhat, it wouldn't be as much as those factors.

08-16-13  07:44am - 4108 days #16
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Originally Posted by hodayathink:


Actually, I would argue that a performer is more likely to catch something like Hep C because tearing (vaginal or anal) is much more likely to happen during a porn scene than it is during regular sex due to various things like the size of the average porn penis, the length of the sex, and the style of sex being had (generally speaking, as deep and as fast as possible). Though previous STD might increase the likelihood somewhat, it wouldn't be as much as those factors.


I would agree completely with this. Good Statement. Since 2007

08-16-13  06:27pm - 4108 days #17
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^&^^ That goes without saying that the type of penetration these women are subjected to is so intense that tearing is all too common. The one that keeps coming to mind is Amee Donovan who left the industry because one her scenes went so bad that she there was some major tearing.

http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=Am...r=f/amee-donavan.htm Long live the Brown Coats.

08-17-13  02:53pm - 4107 days #18
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same here ,,, so true....................

08-21-13  06:16pm - 4103 days #19
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Man I was really not expecting to read this today but we have now gone from Hep C to full on HIV and I don't think we are talking about possible but actual verified infected
performers (that's 2 for those curious). The info is new so I'm sure details are going to be added as the days go by but this may finally be the nail in the industries coffin.

If not then it will put a complete stop on production for the immediate future.

http://www.mikesouth.com/

P.S: This one is not exactly related but I know that she was a popular performer with many of our members. Lexi Belle is now retired. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-21-13  07:43pm - 4102 days #20
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Originally Posted by pat362:


P.S: This one is not exactly related but I know that she was a popular performer with many of our members. Lexi Belle is now retired.


Say it isn't so!!!!!!! Warning Will Robinson

08-22-13  03:36am - 4102 days #21
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^Yes she tweeted that she was glad that she quit before the most recent HIV scare happened and the HIV story is also true because they now have a name attached to the story. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-22-13  07:36am - 4102 days #22
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There is risk with such activity that I think it is sad that in some aspects these are paid slaves with little care to their wellbeing. The reality is 18 year old girls barely know what sex is let alone HEP-C and HIV and what causes it. The producers should teach these ladies how to take care and limit risk., men as well. There are accident each year in porn that never makes then new much cause its porn.
In contrast you never see TV and Movie actor ever put at risk in less risky exposure. That alone should raise red flags for the industry to wake up and help out or the industry may drop out from them. Since 2007

08-22-13  08:08am - 4102 days #23
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18 year old girls know what sex is...they just generally don't acknowledge its more dire consequences, like their own mortality. You know, at that age we were all indestructible.

That Mike South site had an article about financial advice (from a 27-year old performer, mind you) that had a suggestion that was probably more pertinent to the lives of performers than all the recent HIV scaremongering; get health insurance. This is probably an overall bigger risk to young performers because they just don't think about it--or do and come up with the wrong conclusion--but they actually spend the majority of their time not having sex/spreading STDs. And considering they're in a job that is dependent on them not having an injured body (outside of some fetish I'm not interested in) or simply vanishing for a few months to recover, then they're risking their careers as well as their lives.

Of course the fact that people in the US have to purchase private health insurance out of pocket is the real political elephant in the room, not the manufactured controversy that is the legality of porn. But that's perhaps a different topic for another time... "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-22-13  10:13am - 4102 days #24
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


18 year old girls know what sex is...they just generally don't acknowledge its more dire consequences, like their own mortality. You know, at that age we were all indestructible.
Of course the fact that people in the US have to purchase private health insurance out of pocket is the real political elephant in the room, not the manufactured controversy that is the legality of porn. But that's perhaps a different topic for another time...


I recall going to parties in the late 70's and 80's and the girls would take on anyone. I often turned that type of girl down because I knew what VD was and how you got it so those women who gave it up to easy were not my taste ( lol and here I say that on a porn site lolol ). Since 2007

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And you didn't just use condoms and take them up on their offers? Or are you one of those fastidiously anti-condom dudes who just won't risk the loss of feeling for protected sex?

Just asking because I've heard a lot of guys over the years (but probably more from the Internets) who adamantly refuse to use them, or at least claim they do, because they "don't feel good." Yeah, but you're still having sex--it ain't exactly painful--and parenthood or certain STD tests hurt a lot more! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-22-13  06:08pm - 4102 days #26
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


The reality is 18 year old girls barely know what sex is let alone HEP-C and HIV and what causes it.


I agree with you about girls that are 18 and I'd even say that you can go as far as 20 but Cameron is by no means an 18 year old girl. We are talking about a woman that is at the very least 26 years old since she spent a year and a half in jail in 2007 so she had to be at least 18 at the time. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-23-13  05:53pm - 4101 days #27
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It's official. Cameron Bay is HIV+. I hope that she is the only one because she might very not be. My prayers go with her on what is now a life altering event. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-23-13  06:27pm - 4101 days #28
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Originally Posted by pat362:


It's official. Cameron Bay is HIV+. I hope that she is the only one because she might very not be. My prayers go with her on what is now a life altering event.


Sad very sad indeed. Since 2007

08-24-13  11:00am - 4100 days #29
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^This of course means that many sites that were borderline on their shooting schedule may run out of content before they start to shoot more porn since there's now a moratorium
on new porn being shot.

The porn industry in America is so fucked up that I don't know where it's going to wind up. You have had two male performers that worked when they should not have in the last 18 months and now you have at least one HIV+ performer.
Crossover male performers are rampant so that what was once a gay only performer is now a gay and hetero performer and no one and I mean no one as a problem with that. Girls shoot porn one day and then spend a few days escorting and then they start the process all over. All the while having a test that is not valid anymore since the test was never meant to be used except by people that only did porn. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-25-13  02:23am - 4099 days #30
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Girls shoot porn one day and then spend a few days escorting and then they start the process all over. All the while having a test that is not valid anymore since the test was never meant to be used except by people that only did porn.


Part of the problem seems to be that no one in the industry just has sex exclusively on camera, they have it in their personal lives as well (or extended professional life if you're counting the extracurricular escorting) and this makes the tests a lot more useless.

In theory, I could only see a test being valid if the performer has sex with someone who is just as freshly tested--no partners since their last tests! In other words, a basically impossible standard that would only work if every performer was tested before every single scene. Add in all the false positives, or more scarily the false negatives, and you have an insanely inefficient way to make porn. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-25-13  08:36am - 4099 days #31
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The other issues in this is HIV and HEP test are not always definitive. Often times a person can test today fro Hep-C and it wont show up for a few weeks to a month.
HIV is one of those viruses that can not show its ugly head either. The test are only 90% affective and people forget that. Condoms are also only 90% affective in preventing transfer of and infection.

Of course using a condom is way better then not.
But for safety without condom use testing is hit and miss and the more risky your live style like IV drug use and unprotected sex in your private life and business live is asking for trouble.

Anyone ever have an STD ?( don't answer that its rhetorical ). But if you have you know you might have been safe and got it anyways. HIV and HEP are just as easy to transmit.
People are under the misconception they can be risky use a condom and be safe. NO! That is not true. And the industry needs to look at this very carefully as whom ever is telling all its safe are severely uneducated in how HIV and Heps work. Since 2007

08-25-13  05:46pm - 4099 days #32
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The only solution, and it's by no means a foolproof one, is condoms for all penetration porn and a test done every two weeks for every known STD as well as HEP A, B & C. The industry should also ban all crossover performers as this is adding an unsafe element to what is already a dangerous situation. Otherwise the industry is simply going to shutdown from lack of new performers and the loss of all the established ones.

In case some of you don't visit the ADT forum then here is what an established director had to say about the current state of the porn industry. He answered a question another posted asked him in regards to spikers. These are the guys who can't get hard without using an injection in their penis.

[i]"Tim, what percentage of males in the industry would you guess are spikers?"[/i]

nowadays I'd say 50%... at least 30%. and that as everything to do w/who's casting/producing the content. you no longer have that many actual pornographers making the scenes/movies anymore, and female production/casting managers don't care if the guys are spiking or crossovers because they were never in the trenches next to these dudes.

it all starts at the top of EACH company, so much of the current idiocy in XXX could be done away with if there were still dyed in the wool/blue-blooded xxx people calling the shots. but, most/almost all have been put out by the rise of the online companies and how they do business. and I'm not even talking about the Tube-sites, just the brand(s) of online porno that destroyed the 'star machine'. w/less dvd work to go around, and online producers only using gals once/twice at most, you have entire crops of female talent that show up and have NOTHING to do after 3-5 weeks in. plus, the handful of gigs they got were at 1k-$1200 just for some vanilla 1 on 1, so now they don't want to put their shoes on for less than a 1000 dollars. expectations are set way too high and then the phone stops ringing. escorting starts paying the rent and now you have the hooker brigade in full force taking the odd xxx scene here and there to stay/feel current.
once someone commits to sex work they ain't gonna give it up. the era of porn 'stars' is pretty much dead and gone. the websites don't need stars to make their $$$, they just need updates for their branded web page, regardless of who fits the bill/slot. the spikers get NO scrutiny anymore because of these loser shooters working for corporate on a daily sched that gets met, or they get replaced by some dude off of craigslist w/a 5d mark III... etc, etc, etc,...

sorry about the rant, maybe I'm being a bit too open about what's going on here in xxx,...but I don't have an agenda other than wanting to keep me & Mike in the game for as long as we wanna be here. still, the fans should have a more honest/gritty perspective of what's actually happening these days,... thanks for the fanfare everyone, we totally appreciate it. lates, Von S.
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08-25-13  07:19pm - 4098 days #33
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The other issues in this is HIV and HEP test are not always definitive. Often times a person can test today fro Hep-C and it wont show up for a few weeks to a month.
HIV is one of those viruses that can not show its ugly head either. The test are only 90% affective and people forget that. Condoms are also only 90% affective in preventing transfer of and infection.


To add to this and to partially refute what I posted above, the test for HIV and AIDS can apparently generate false negatives--i.e., it does not detect that you have it when you actually do--for up to three months after exposure. This is what a Gawker article summed up from the CDC (instead of some performer's latest brain fart-via-Twitter). Yikes!

What's additionally sad is this Gawker article is about Sydney Leather, who you may have heard of from the most recent Anthony Weiner scandal--hint, she's not his wife. She may have been exposed to HIV in her debut scene from a co-performer who had also recently worked with Cameron Bay. Aurora Snow had written an article for her Daily Beast column urging Sydney not to take her fifteen minutes to the porn industry, and she didn't even mention the risks to her health.

And condoms definitely have their limitations in porn, considering how they are only used for penetrative vaginal and anal sex, rarely oral (whether giving or receiving) or when using toys (which are freely swapped between multiple partners within a scene). Though Kink.com, where Cameron suffered a less deadly if still ugly injury, does use condoms all the time...on their toys. Without getting too technical, condoms literally don't cover what porn has come up with in terms of girl-girl content, or even all the fluids that are let loose in the other genres of porn. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


To add to this and to partially refute what I posted above, the test for HIV and AIDS can apparently generate false negatives--i.e., it does not detect that you have it when you actually do--for up to three months after exposure. This is what a Gawker article summed up from the CDC (instead of some performer's latest brain fart-via-Twitter). Yikes!

What's additionally sad is this Gawker article is about Sydney Leather, who you may have heard of from the most recent Anthony Weiner scandal--hint, she's not his wife. She may have been exposed to HIV in her debut scene from a co-performer who had also recently worked with Cameron Bay. Aurora Snow had written an article for her Daily Beast column urging Sydney not to take her fifteen minutes to the porn industry, and she didn't even mention the risks to her health.

And condoms definitely have their limitations in porn, considering how they are only used for penetrative vaginal and anal sex, rarely oral (whether giving or receiving) or when using toys (which are freely swapped between multiple partners within a scene). Though Kink.com, where Cameron suffered a less deadly if still ugly injury, does use condoms all the time...on their toys. Without getting too technical, condoms literally don't cover what porn has come up with in terms of girl-girl content, or even all the fluids that are let loose in the other genres of porn.



Yep, oddly I took my education and used it to be a Drug and HIV/HEP counselor for 5 years in my past. Got burn out and left. I know sounds made up but was something I did and also oddly enough I found people had sex in ways I never even heard of. It was a interesting job to say the least. But 5 years felt like 25. I am sure stats etc have changed they always do. But for the most part I think what I learned is still pretty accurate. Since 2007

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And condoms definitely have their limitations in porn,


For sure but no condom as no limitation when it comes to infection. I'm pro-condom for one single reason and it's that I don't want to read about all the rampant std's in the industry that might have been prevented if condoms had been used. Of course accidents will happen after condoms are made mandatory and people will still get infected but at least the number of new cases should drop. Long live the Brown Coats.

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Videos and Photos are really in this website


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08-31-13  09:52am - 4093 days #39
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Yep, oddly I took my education and used it to be a Drug and HIV/HEP counselor for 5 years in my past. Got burn out and left. I know sounds made up but was something I did and also oddly enough I found people had sex in ways I never even heard of. It was a interesting job to say the least. But 5 years felt like 25.


I'm sure it did, and I'm also sure you heard of enough stuff that would probably surprise all of us in one way or another. Like how people who have worked in emergency rooms talk, almost in a boasting way, about all the crazy stories and situations they encounter. Granted, I could probably come up with about a million reasons to hate a private hospital worker over a drug counselor but I don't begin to pretend I understand how stressful it can be.

Reading and hearing porn performers talk about their craft they frequently refer to it as athletic sex or something similar. It's intense, physically demanding and damaging work that normal people shouldn't interpret as a guide for everyday sex (especially since they are rarely doing these insane scenes every single day). And it's fun to watch--I would choose it over sports any day--but not necessarily always as much fun as it looks. But considering what they do, the STDs, at least the ones we hear about, seem nowhere near as rampant as you would think. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-06-13  05:53pm - 4087 days #41
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You know sometime you believe that you have reached rock bottom and then you discover that there are levels that go even deeper than you ever imagined. Sad news in the porn world. There is now a third person who has tested positive to HIV. The news is quite new so no name and no other info beside what I wrote.

This is a gigantic clusterfuck mess for the FSC, that's the(Free Speech Coalition) for those that didn't know, it's president Diane Duke as well as APHSS/PASS (Performers Availability Screening Services) is that they gave the go ahead to resume shooting before this latest patient was discovered and way before it was medically safe to do so.
These are the people and organisations that are suppose to make sure that no one infects another person but as you can see they are beyond incompetent.

I don't know if anybody ever wonder why I sound less tha thrilled with the future of porn well now you have proof of why I do. Long live the Brown Coats.

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