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11-23-11  06:44am - 4740 days Original Post - #1
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Best debuts/newcomers in 2011

Was 2011 a good year for porn?
And specified in new models on the scene making their debut some great girls sweetened the life of a PU - (some of) my favorites:

1) Avina/Masha/Netu ect.
NOT the glamorous or stunning beauty, but a very cute and above all sexy redhead who really looks like she's enjoying herself and a simply great performance.
And for hairy lovers she did a lot of that in the start - before shaving.
And she must have "hit the fan" according to the number of her productions.
http://www.pornteengirl.com/model/netu.html

2)Francheska/Zoey ect.
Another natural and with a special beauty - a girl next door.
Also she has made a lot in 2011...
http://www.pornteengirl.com/model/zoey.html

3)Ivy
Not a vast production till now - hope to see more of this blond beauty...
http://www.pornteengirl.com/model/ivy.html "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Nov 23, 2011, 06:51am

11-23-11  07:06am - 4740 days #2
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Hmm not something I usually follow, so not sure who is new for this year or last year Since 2007

11-23-11  07:59am - 4740 days #3
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Hmm not something I usually follow, so not sure who is new for this year or last year


A PU is always looking for new models/debuts - and guess we've had this kind of thread for years....every year..
And it's not very hard to find out "when" - the main thing here is a focus on newcomers - and we (PUs) have a lot of help at these links when it comes to time/year of debut (if you do not know it by heart):

http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandomain.html

http://www.pornteengirl.com/model-update/update-model.html

http://www.indexxx.com/

http://www.thenude.eu/model_index_a.htm "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Nov 23, 2011, 08:18am

11-23-11  10:46am - 4740 days #4
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Well in the softcore niche I was rather smitten with a model named Nika who debuted on Watch 4 Beauty this year

http://www.watch4beauty.com/model-nika.html

Hoping to find a lot more of her in the coming year.

11-23-11  11:23am - 4740 days #5
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Here's a link for EBi's page oh girls and their debut year.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/appendix_3.html

Here are a couple of girls.

Hailey: Cute teen with blond hair and gorgeous little breasts who went the HC route rather than the glamorous one.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/hailey.html

Heddie: Cute teen with redish brown hair and gorgeous little breats who went the HC route.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/heddie.html

Jessy: Cute teen with light brown hair and cute little breasts who went the HC route.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/nikea.html

Lara: cute teen with auburn hair with nice medium sized breasts who went the HC route.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/lara_5.html

Laighton: Cute teen with auburn hair and beautiful small breasts who went the HC route.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/leighton.html

Neta: She's pretty new but I hope she decides to stick with it bewcause she's a really cute teen with dark hair and amazing little breasts who's also going the HC route.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/netta.html

Nike: Cute teen with auburn hair and some beautiful breasts and she has really cute pink puffy nipples on top of that. She has also chosen the HC route.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/nike.html

Zuzanna: Cute teen with redish brown hair and nice breasts who went the Hc route.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/zuzanna.html

Now here is a list of American pewrformers.

Jessie Rogers: Now that is a hot blond teen with amazing small breasts. She doesn't have that much yet but hopefully she's able to do more or chooses to do more.
http://www.freeones.com/html/j_links/Jessie_Rogers/

Holly Michaels: cute teen with brown hair and some nice breasts who's going the HC route.
http://www.freeones.com/html/h_links/Holly_Michaels/

Kara Price: Cute teen with blond hair and some really nice little breasts who's going for the more HC route than most newbies normally go.
http://www.freeones.com/html/k_links/Kara_Price/

Skin Diamond: Beautiful black teen with nice breasts and she's an alt porn model so he hair style is not always in the norm and she has tattoos. Somehow I can overlook them on her. SZhe's also going the more HC route than most newbies.
http://www.freeones.com/html/s_links/Skin_Diamond/

I'm sure more will come to me but it's much harder for American performers because most of them do a cxouple of scenes and then disapear so is it really worth mentioning them since their barely a flash in the pan. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-23-11  11:35am - 4740 days #6
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Pat / Denner
very nice to know this information.
I knew it happened, but not how.

Now I do, see even being a member here for a few
years yea learn something.

COOL! Since 2007

11-23-11  12:50pm - 4740 days #7
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Here's a link for EBi's page oh girls and their debut year.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/appendix_3.html

Here are a couple of girls.

Hailey: Cute teen with blond hair and gorgeous little breasts who went the HC route rather than the glamorous one.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/hailey.html

Heddie: Cute teen with redish brown hair and gorgeous little breats who went the HC route.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/heddie.html

Jessy: Cute teen with light brown hair and cute little breasts who went the HC route.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/nikea.html

Lara: cute teen with auburn hair with nice medium sized breasts who went the HC route.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/lara_5.html

Laighton: Cute teen with auburn hair and beautiful small breasts who went the HC route.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/leighton.html

Neta: She's pretty new but I hope she decides to stick with it bewcause she's a really cute teen with dark hair and amazing little breasts who's also going the HC route.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/netta.html

Nike: Cute teen with auburn hair and some beautiful breasts and she has really cute pink puffy nipples on top of that. She has also chosen the HC route.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/nike.html

Zuzanna: Cute teen with redish brown hair and nice breasts who went the Hc route.
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/zuzanna.html

Now here is a list of American pewrformers.

Jessie Rogers: Now that is a hot blond teen with amazing small breasts. She doesn't have that much yet but hopefully she's able to do more or chooses to do more.
http://www.freeones.com/html/j_links/Jessie_Rogers/

Holly Michaels: cute teen with brown hair and some nice breasts who's going the HC route.
http://www.freeones.com/html/h_links/Holly_Michaels/

Kara Price: Cute teen with blond hair and some really nice little breasts who's going for the more HC route than most newbies normally go.
http://www.freeones.com/html/k_links/Kara_Price/

Skin Diamond: Beautiful black teen with nice breasts and she's an alt porn model so he hair style is not always in the norm and she has tattoos. Somehow I can overlook them on her. SZhe's also going the more HC route than most newbies.
http://www.freeones.com/html/s_links/Skin_Diamond/

I'm sure more will come to me but it's much harder for American performers because most of them do a cxouple of scenes and then disapear so is it really worth mentioning them since their barely a flash in the pan.


Good finds, Pat!!!
All ready looking forward to a further search of some of these models. "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

11-23-11  01:45pm - 4740 days #8
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With them all having so many aliases, it is near impossible to keep tabs on who is who.

Once again I shan't bother chasing, I'll just take what I come across.

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11-23-11  03:19pm - 4740 days #9
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Angel Hott, Bernice, Tess Lyndon, Hayden Hawkins, Jessica Lynn (of ATK Petites, etc.), Kiki (of Hegre) Malvina (of FemJoy), Chanel Rae, Sensi Pearl, Rilee Marks, and Carina of MC-Nudes are among my personal favorites coming out in 2011.

Tess Lyndon's face is similar to a former girlfriend's, and it's a plus, fortunately.

And special mention goes to Divina A at Met-Art, one of the sexiest models ever!

Yet certainly, imho, the awesomest new model in 2011 is Tiffany Thompson! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Nov 23, 2011, 03:48pm

11-24-11  06:13am - 4739 days #10
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Angel Hott, Bernice, Tess Lyndon, Hayden Hawkins, Jessica Lynn (of ATK Petites, etc.), Kiki (of Hegre) Malvina (of FemJoy), Chanel Rae, Sensi Pearl, Rilee Marks, and Carina of MC-Nudes are among my personal favorites coming out in 2011.

Yet certainly, imho, the awesomest new model in 2011 is Tiffany Thompson!


I really like your choices. I was tempted to nominate some of these myself but I stayed away from any performer who's status is uncertain or simply doesn't have enough content yet. Angel Hott is well named but I need more HC stuff before she makes it to my list. I really wish Sensi does more porn and certainly more HC stuff but her status is so uncertain just like Rilee Marks. There are so many US performers that are amaqzingly hot but they come in to the industry and leave before we have a chance to really see them. Tiffant Thompson is one of those performers that could have made a killing but I don't think porn was for her. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-24-11  10:47am - 4739 days #11
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Did you see the conditions for entering the new contest: Name your favorite new model. How about those of us who don't know the names of most models? I'll have to sit that one out! I do know the names of SOME established pornstars but the scenes they are in and what they wear has always been more important to me than their names.

11-24-11  04:37pm - 4739 days #12
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I hesitate to add my opinion because as someone who only gets stuff from the 'net I'm at least a year behind reality. And I'm not just talking porn...

My vote goes to an American model who hasn't done much work and won't win any beauty contests though she is very attractive. Her attractiveness, for me, is a mix of a playful attitide and just the right amount of skankiness. You could bring her home to meet mom, and mom might like her, but mom would still know that she sucks dick like a vacuum cleaner.

Gentlement, I give you Ms. Taylor Dare.

11-24-11  04:51pm - 4739 days #13
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Did you see the conditions for entering the new contest: Name your favorite new model. How about those of us who don't know the names of most models? I'll have to sit that one out! I do know the names of SOME established pornstars but the scenes they are in and what they wear has always been more important to me than their names.


Hey Messmer,
Just pick a name from this thread and use that.

Simple! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

11-24-11  06:22pm - 4738 days #14
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


My vote goes to an American model who hasn't done much work and won't win any beauty contests

Gentlement, I give you Ms. Taylor Dare.


I think she is really cute but she actually started doing porn in 2010. Of course she was still new to me because I had never heard of her until now and I'll never get to see her do porn since she has chosen to do only cam work.

Ah well! Another US performer bites the dust. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-25-11  07:26am - 4738 days #15
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I think she is really cute but she actually started doing porn in 2010. Of course she was still new to me because I had never heard of her until now and I'll never get to see her do porn since she has chosen to do only cam work.

Ah well! Another US performer bites the dust.


She is cute, and I'm glad you agree. What I find particularly attractive is her attitude though. She's very playful and seems to enjoy her work.

11-25-11  07:59am - 4738 days #16
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You are allowed to discuss new models to your hearts content.

You are allowed to mention what site(s) you saw them on.

You are even allowed to post pictures of the models (see the Image Rules section of our Forum Rules)

However, you should *not* be posting links to free content or pages listing free content. As has been stressed before, PU is not a place for sharing free porn.

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11-25-11  08:03am - 4738 days #17
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In a thread like this I feel old, I check out some on the newbie links and they are like 20+ years younger then me.
Id feel like the 40 year old guy who cruises by the highschools or something. The newbies are cute.
But by no means getting a rise out me.

I like them late mid-late 20's at a minimum.
So these barely 18 don't do it for me. Since 2007

11-25-11  08:55am - 4738 days #18
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I kind of lost track of all the russian and east EU models, mostly because they usually have a gazillion of different stage names. In addition, most of them quit doing porn after a couple of months and those who decide to stay usually morph into what appears to be a completely different person via bottox, make-up and plastic.

Of the US models, Kara Price is definitely the most promising newcomer of the year IMO. This girl knows how to perform. Fingers crosse that she won't burn out too soon.

11-25-11  09:44am - 4738 days #19
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Hey Messmer,
Just pick a name from this thread and use that.

Simple!


I know, Drooler. I was tempted to do that but then thought that might be cheating.

11-25-11  09:48am - 4738 days #20
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


In a thread like this I feel old, I check out some on the newbie links and they are like 20+ years younger then me.
Id feel like the 40 year old guy who cruises by the highschools or something. The newbies are cute.
But by no means getting a rise out me.

I like them late mid-late 20's at a minimum.
So these barely 18 don't do it for me.


How do you think *I* feel CB. Most new models are a quarter my age. I do look at some of them but feel like a creep when I do. That's why I am much more comfortable in the company of mature women.

11-25-11  10:15am - 4738 days #21
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My favorite new one is easily Veronica Rodriguez, sometimes goes as "Barbie". Sites that I know have samples of her, X-Art, Nubiles, Bang Bros, Reality Kings and freeones has her profile, little tiny Venezuelan model.

Another though she may be a little rough around the edges, also says she started in 2010, but she only has 4 links on freeones and 2 are to Bang Bros, just released recently in the last few weeks is Liv Aguilera. She first caught my eye because she reminds me of a young Zafira.

And don't feel too bad messmer, most of them are half my age, that's why I picked two! My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

11-25-11  01:49pm - 4738 days #22
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I know, Drooler. I was tempted to do that but then thought that might be cheating.


Here: Tiffany Thompson

Just look her up and if you don't go "OMG!" it will be considered cheating. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

11-25-11  02:07pm - 4738 days #23
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At one point during this year I would have said Tiffany Thompson. But looking around the net for some of her work apart from X-Art I came across several public complaints from people in the industry on her (lack of) professionalism.

Her behavior on My Free Cams (she goes by TlffanyT - yes, for some reason, the second letter is an L-) made me realize she doesn't care much about fans either.

Despite her absolutely gorgeous looks, her personality and attitude made me lose all interest in her work and her alleged official site Tiffany Love.

11-25-11  03:31pm - 4738 days #24
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Here: Tiffany Thompson

Just look her up and if you don't go "OMG!" it will be considered cheating.


Hey, good answer, Drooler but after what Pat wrote I can't vote for Tiffany. I did find one, however, in Denner's list that made me go OMG! So, I'm all set!

11-25-11  03:39pm - 4738 days #25
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Oops, I forgot I deleted the newsletter containing the details because I didn't think I would qualify. Any chance of sending me another one, Ken ... if you're looking in!

11-25-11  10:16pm - 4737 days #26
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From what Atrapat was saying above about Tiffany Thompson, maybe she needs to deal with "first fame syndrome" and, you know, examine the relationship.

Hey, though, what about Mae Meyers? She's new, she's cute, and she's adorable! I've got a nice pile of stuff of her nude posing from the ATK sites.

Plus she's done like 29 porn scenes so far at least, including blow jobs, GGB, double-team (BBG), and interracial (one black, one Japanese). She's certainly one of the best newco ...

Well, wait. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself. You know, I'd like to see her do more porn before I make up my mind. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

11-26-11  08:04am - 4737 days #27
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Oops, I forgot I deleted the newsletter containing the details because I didn't think I would qualify. Any chance of sending me another one, Ken ... if you're looking in!


I still do not get a newsletter and it is not in my spam either weird. In fact I get updates on everything but never get a newsletter, my profile is set right too, no biggy so I just gave up. Since 2007

11-26-11  10:10am - 4737 days #28
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


From what Atrapat was saying above about Tiffany Thompson, maybe she needs to deal with "first fame syndrome" and, you know, examine the relationship.

Hey, though, what about Mae Meyers? She's new, she's cute, and she's adorable! I've got a nice pile of stuff of her nude posing from the ATK sites.


I think Tiffany's problem is that she never really wanted to do porn but her pimp (sorry) her boyfriend thought that would be a great thing for him oops I meant to say them because her doing porn would be a great way to make a shitload of money and he doesn't have to work. She only shot a few scenes and they were all with him, lesbian or solo.

I think Mae is really cute and she has potential but she posted that she was quitting porn a couple of months back and then changed her mind so it's hard to tell if she'll really stick with porn long term. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-26-11  03:15pm - 4737 days #29
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I think Mae is really cute and she has potential but she posted that she was quitting porn a couple of months back and then changed her mind so it's hard to tell if she'll really stick with porn long term.


Well, seems that Mae and I are on the same wavelength, be it sine, sawtooth, or otherwise. We're undecided!

But for different reasons, probably. Hers: The old "I might quit (PAY ME MORE MONEY!)" bit, perhaps. Mine: Well, actually I HAVE decided: She can quit for sure now if she wants to and still get the vote. Fuckin' eh, she's done enough to earn a "Best Newcomer Attagirl" badge, after all.

Then she can use that to tweak up her fees. See how it's all working out?

Thanks for the scoops on Mae and also Tiffany, who should drop that turd, btw. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Nov 26, 2011, 03:52pm

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I have to say my fav newcomer goes to Kitty, that's what she goes by on EBI anyway, she is smoking hot and does pretty much everything and is has the sweetest cute body too, hope she remains around for a long time and we get to see lots more great work from her. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE

11-28-11  10:11am - 4735 days #31
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Oops, I forgot I deleted the newsletter containing the details ...


Kevin has resent the newsletter to you.

Hope that helps. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator
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11-28-11  12:35pm - 4735 days #32
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Originally Posted by Khan:


Kevin has resent the newsletter to you.

Hope that helps.


It sure did, Khan. I managed to pick my favorite from Denner's list above .. and it wasn't arbitrary either. She really is my favorite of the ones he mentioned! My entry has already been submitted. Please, thank Kevin for me!

11-28-11  01:59pm - 4735 days #33
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How do you think *I* feel CB. Most new models are a quarter my age. I do look at some of them but feel like a creep when I do. That's why I am much more comfortable in the company of mature women.

I've just turned 40 and I'm beginning to feel the same way, messmer. My daughter has just started highschool (11) so by the time I am fifty, a twenty year old model will literally be younger than my daughter. I don't feel at ease with that, and that's a turn off in itself. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

11-28-11  04:22pm - 4735 days #34
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I've just turned 40 and I'm beginning to feel the same way, messmer. My daughter has just started highschool (11) so by the time I am fifty, a twenty year old model will literally be younger than my daughter. I don't feel at ease with that, and that's a turn off in itself.


Yep! That's why I wish the young 'uns would stop making derogatory remarks (not here .. on the various sites) every time they come across a model who is older than forty! The site owners, VideoBox for one, get frightened by the general derision and therefore update as little "mature" material as possible.

So in most sites I am faced with material that is not really my cup of tea. Still erotic at times, still exciting, just not what I am really looking for and it can definitely be guilt inducing because of the wide age difference. For Pete's sake, I have a daughter who will be a SENIOR next year.

I often think my lingerie fetish is not really a fetish at all, but simply the desire to see women start out fully clothed, complete with all undies and other erotic accessories .. the way they used to dress back when!

12-28-11  10:24am - 4705 days #35
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It has been a dreary year for newcummers for sure, with the Russians in the lead. As for American girls,Veronica Rodriguez is a top contender and already mentioned.

A couple of others I can remember are:

Sensi Pearl

Sensi reminds me of Kasey Chase, but with more passion. She started earlier this year, I believe. A real sweetie.

Sheena Shaw

Sheena's a hot petite 26 yr old from Florida. So far, the only scenes I've found of her are at OnlyTeenBlowjobs.com, Amateur Allure & FuckedHard18.com with the latter showing off her perfect ass and passionate nature. Started late this year. She's one to watch in 2012.

12-28-11  10:50am - 4705 days #36
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Originally Posted by t9chome:


Sensi Pearl

Sensi reminds me of Kasey Chase, but with more passion. She started earlier this year, I believe. A real sweetie.



I really wish we would see more from Sensi because she is really cute but she's one of those new age performers that only shoots from time to time so there's not a lot of places where you can see her or many movies that she's in either. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-28-11  02:33pm - 4705 days #37
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Originally Posted by t9chome:


Sheena Shaw

Sheena's a hot petite 26 yr old from Florida. So far, the only scenes I've found of her are at OnlyTeenBlowjobs.com, Amateur Allure & FuckedHard18.com with the latter showing off her perfect ass and passionate nature. Started late this year. She's one to watch in 2012.


FYI, Sheena Shaw just started appearing at FootFetishDaily, and I agree that she's really hot! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

12-29-11  06:53am - 4704 days #38
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Oh, oh, oh....Sheena Shaw is a gift to pornlovers...
Still an ongoing member of Fuckedhard18.com - and that scene is just top... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

12-29-11  07:55am - 4704 days #39
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Really forgot one - a rising 2011 star - with magnificent tits and - believe me or not - very similar in looks/tits to a danish girl I knew at a period when around (give or take) 30 years of age..(so about 30 years ago), still remember the last time with her - and in public - nighttime, though, in a Copenhagen park-area....LOL (which I could show you some old B/W photos - and you would see the resemblance)....

http://www.pornteengirl.com/model/linet.html "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Dec 29, 2011, 08:01am

12-29-11  10:17am - 4704 days #40
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Well okay, the person who is working it hard right now and started about three weeks ago is Jayden Lee and while there are no links cause none of it's published yet, she has a hot and heavy thread on ADT and her twitter - @JaydenLeexxx

All natural, immediately into anal and loves it, 19 years old.... well just go check it out. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

12-31-11  01:40am - 4702 days #41
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One girl who I've only just recently discovered but I am very impressed with and she seems to be doing lots of scenes, a very busy girl with huge potential and looks like she could of been a professional model, certainly has the looks and the body.

She is Abby at EBI, done some good scenes on the Teenmegaworld network, hope to see lots more of her in 2012

Oh yeah with you on the Sensi Pearl one, she is very to my taste, some good stuff of her can be found at Littlemutt. I'd also like to add Zoey Kush who is also doing it for me lately. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE Edited on Dec 31, 2011, 01:43am

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