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| 11-07-11 08:55am - 4794 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Porn or Prostitution. I just had a very long conversation over Porn or Prostitution. If I film myself or film two stranger having sex and pay them for the time. I can call it adult films and in most jurisdiction its legal. We are talking full out sex, I pay them lets say 1000.00 a piece. Its even legal to have a swinger party and charge entrance for people to have sex with each other and that's legal. ( might be some tax law? ) However I can watch an episode of Cops where a guy will walk up to a girl and proposition her only, and get thrown in jail. He doesn't even have to have sex and he is guilty. If I ask this same girl to have dinner with me and we have sex, and then I give her 50.00 cause she is broke is that Prostitution. What if I filmed myself and a hooker having sex? Is that Porn or Prostitution? At some point both are asked to have sex and get paid? Since 2007 | |
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| 11-07-11 09:18am - 4794 days | #2 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
The Law can be very strange. Maybe because it's made up by people. | |
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| 11-07-11 09:21am - 4794 days | #3 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Like People who take medical Marijuana or wait thats a whole new "why its legal but not legal" thing. Since 2007 | |
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| 11-07-11 10:08am - 4794 days | #4 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
This is an old argument and over the years smarter people than myself have come up with certain distinction to help identify the differences. I don't believe that it's legal to shoot porn in every State. I thought that only california recognize the right of companies to shoot porn. I that know many other States shoot porn. Florida being pretty high on that list but the difference is that it's not illegal to shoot porn. I do believe that it is illegal to shoot porn in some States. I just don;t know which ones. Prostitution is actually illegal in every State and that inculdes Nevada. The main difference with Nevada is that they allow certain district to legally operate whorehouses but it's not rampant. That's why you see so many places advertising escort services because that is legal. Of course if said escort has sex or offers to have sex for money than she and her customer can and will get charged with prostitution. If you decide to pay someone to have sex with you and film it than you will be charged with prostition. If you pay someone for the right to release a movie where you and her were having sex than you won't be charged because you didn't pay for the sex but the right to release the film. Of course you will be asked to produce your 2257 info on the performer(s) and unless you have that then you will be charged with prostitution and might also get charged for producing obscene material. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 11-07-11 10:21am - 4794 days | #5 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Seems that where the law is so close on what illegal and what legal, they would just make up there minds. I get the idea behind the laws.But that does not make them as less stupid and wasted resources. Like Marijuana, there are more people dying from being hooked on opiates they get from their doctor then from smoking a joint. Yet society allows us to legally dope up Americans because its prescribed ? We spend so much money on things just seem stupid enforcing. In my state you can grow weed, just recently a person was buster for drug dealing weed. Not because they were growing illegally, but because the paperwork had expired a month earlier and they did not renew. So now a legal grower becomes a drug dealer . Wow, is it just me, or should I have stayed in the 60's LOL Since 2007 | |
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| 11-07-11 05:28pm - 4794 days | #6 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
This is waaaaay off the topic, but I it gave me a good laugh when you state "if I film myself ..." and that comes up as a website linked here. You never told us you had a voyeur website starring yourself! | |
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| 11-07-11 07:23pm - 4793 days | #7 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I've never used marijuna and I don't ever plan to use it. I don't mind if Goverments want to decriminalise it but I will fight tooth and nail if they ever plan to legalise it. We already have huge problem with drunk drivers, cellphone drivers, texting drivers that we don't need to add pot smoking drivers. I know you can get just as many people claiming that a joint from time to time is no worse than a drink from time to time but the big question becomes what they consider to from time to time. If you have a glass of wine each night with your meal then does that make you an alcoholic? How about if you have 2 glasses each night? I don't know if it's just me but one glass of wine will give me a little buzz but 2 will definetely give me a good buzz. That's why I usually only have one to two glasses of wine on rare occasions because I don't need the buzz. If we use the same analogy then is one joint a day an addict? Is two joints a day an addict? I'm not in a good place to judge because the only example I have is my neighbor who smokes large amounts of pot on a daily basis and has been for many years. I'm affraid he would not be a good example to use when discussing the benefits of smoking pot because it's next to impossible to have an inteligent discussion with the man because his brain is swiss cheese. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 11-08-11 12:20pm - 4793 days | #8 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
Here in the UK the act of prostitution isn't illegal at all (and I don't believe it is across most of Europe either), but soliciting on the street is. Therefore you can be arrested for initiating the transaction if the prostitute is touting for business in a public place, but paying or being paid for sex is absolutely fine otherwise. I don't understand why prostitution would be illegal in the US, seems rather odd. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 11-08-11 10:23pm - 4792 days | #9 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Does me too, many thing including Marijuana make no sense to me at all why they are illegal I get other drugs but really makes no sense to make these things illegal. Since 2007 | |
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| 11-09-11 09:20am - 4792 days | #10 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
I can actually understand why Marijuana is illegal (given the recent research results), but then I don't see why tobacco isn't also illegal. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 11-09-11 10:59am - 4792 days | #11 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I agree, I guess I look at we spend less then 2% of our drug enforcement and healthcare budget on prevention and education. But spend 70% of this same budget on enforcement. And even more locking people up. They tell kids in school just say no, and that's about where they leave it. Then some pretty things ask you to get high with her and you just say hell yes.  We spend far more telling people why they should wear a seat belts or not leave fires burning in the forest then we do preventing drug use and illness. Yet drugs and illness cost us billions and we do nothing to even try and slow down pace. Just seems very backwards to me, prevention would be a far better choice then waiting until people become full blown addicts and dealers to address the issues. Since 2007 | |
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| 11-10-11 09:56am - 4791 days | #12 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Some simple examples of how the law can be strange: Note: these are real laws, not just something I made up by myself: Alabama — it is illegal for a driver to be blindfolded while operating a vehicle. Alaska — it is considered an offense to push a live moose out of a moving airplane. Arizona — any misdemeanor committed while wearing a red mask is considered a felony. Arizona — when being attacked by a criminal or burglar, you may only protect yourself with the same weapon that the other person possesses. Augusta, Maine — to stroll down the street playing a violin is against the law. Baltimore, Maryland — it is illegal to take a lion to the movies. Baltimore, Maryland — it is a violation of city code to sell chicks or ducklings to a minor within one week of the Easter holiday. Barber, North Carolina — fights between cats and dogs are prohibited. Bexley, Ohio — the installation and usage of slot machines in outhouses is prohibited. Boise, Idaho — residents may not fish from a giraffe's back. Chicago, Illinois — it is forbidden to eat in a place that is on fire. Chico, California — detonating a nuclear device within the city limits results in a $500 fine. Everett, Washington — it is illegal to display a hypnotized or allegedly hypnotized person in a store window. Fargo, North Dakota — one may be jailed for wearing a hat while dancing, or even for wearing a hat to a function where dancing is taking place. Georgia — it is illegal to use profanity in front of a dead body which lies in a funeral home or in a coroner's office. Klamath Falls, Oregon — it is illegal to walk down a sidewalk and knock a snakes head off with your cane. La Crosse, Wisconsin — you may not worry a squirrel. Memphis, Tennessee — it is illegal to give any pie to fellow diners. It is also illegal to take unfinished pie home. All pie must be eaten on the premises. Milwaukee, Wisconsin — it is against the law to play a flute and drums on the streets to attract attention. Minnesota — a person may not cross state lines with a duck atop his head. Montana — it is illegal to have a sheep in the cab of your truck without a chaperone. Nebraska — it is illegal for bar owners to sell beer unless they are simultaneously brewing a kettle of soup. New Hampshire — you cannot sell the clothes you are wearing to pay off a gambling debt. Oklahoma — it is illegal to have the hind legs of farm animals in your boots. Pennsylvania — ministers are forbidden from performing marriages when either the bride or groom is drunk. Rhode Island — any marriage where either of the parties is an idiot or lunatic is null and void. San Francisco, California — it is illegal to pile horse manure more than six feet high on a street corner. Seattle, Washington — you may not carry a concealed weapon that is over six feet in length. Tennessee — driving is not to be done while asleep. Trout Creek, Utah — pharmacists may not sell gunpowder to cure headaches. Vermont — women must obtain written permission from their husbands to wear false teeth. Washington — it is mandatory for a motorist with criminal intentions to stop at the city limits and telephone the chief of police as he is entering the town. West Virginia — roadkill may be taken home for supper. Wilbur, Washington — you may not ride an ugly horse. | |
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| 11-10-11 10:43am - 4791 days | #13 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Umm then who is going to impose the fine if a person breaks the law ? CT Since 2007 | |
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| 11-10-11 09:29pm - 4790 days | #14 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Better lobbyists, especially given the fact that they are selling an inferior product.  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 11-11-11 10:20am - 4790 days | #15 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
That and people have been smoking cigarettes for over a 100 years so it's going to be really hard to outlaw it. At least to outlaw it and not have another prohibition. Last time I checked that didn't go so well for the US. The best they can do is what they are trying to do by making it harder to smoke in public and all the messages that smoking is not a healthy thing. I'm a huge fan of old movies but it's sometimes really painfull to look at every actor smoking. Especially when you realise that so many of them died from complications due to smoking. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 11-11-11 07:51pm - 4789 days | #16 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
People have been smoking tobacco in some form for much longer than that. And marijuana leaves have been found in the mummified remains of people from thousands of years ago. The sad part about Prohibition is not just the restrictive idiocy of the law itself but the fact that it empowered organized crime with the immediate demand for bootlegged booze. Simply outlawing something won't change demand, it will just make people work harder or pay more to get what they ultimately want. Adding taxes will overall increase government revenue (which they like) but not dramatically curb demand, though legal demand may drop as illegal sources become more attractive--I guess a sort of Laffer curve for vices.  Worse than Prohibition, the current Drug War has been going on for 40 years since Tricky Dick declared it in 1971! Not only are these organized criminals even more powerful and profitable than our '20s era gangsters but they haven't gotten nearly as dangerous as anyone we've been fighting in the War on Terror.  A rather depressing article I recently read states that the War on Drugs has put more emphasis on the war, with the heavy use of military forces, and little emphasis on the drugs, with virtually no serious consideration of legalization or at least decriminalization. I just hope we don't have to go broke or invade Mexico to understand how wasteful it all has been. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 11-12-11 09:40am - 4789 days | #17 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I know people keep saying to legalise porn and it will take it out of the hands of Organised Crime but cigarettes have been legal for years and there is a huge traffic of cigarettes. Does anyone really think that Organised Crime will stop selling marijuana? At best it will drop the price of the product. At worse it will start a drug war where legal stores will get firebombed. The guy selling pot on the street doesn't need to worry about insurance but the store selling legal pot does. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 11-12-11 10:20am - 4789 days | #18 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Hmmm when they legalized booze, there was no violence or recourse as the organized crimes syndicates stayed in business and so did mom and pops. People still knock over liquor stores today. I can not see the organized crime having enough resources to start taking out other weed sellers. Today there is a huge BLACK market in selling fakes by organized crimes syndicates, selling everything from Fake Nikes to Goochie, car stereos you name it. And yet the crime involved has not changed violence wise. I look at the same thing as if we made guns illegal, then who would have guns? The same bad people that always had them would. Nuclear weapons have been around for half a century, and yet the only people who can get to them are criminals. We spend billions a year on keeping weed out of our country and been spending billions for over 50 years and there is no end and no dent. Just like booze they tried to prevent it, all it did was escalate violence and empower organized crimes syndicates . Just my thoughts Since 2007 | |
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