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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Restores my faith in human nature. Restores my faith in human nature. One of the paramedics who treated James Gandolfini when Gandolfini suffered a fatal heart attack in 2013 has been accused of stealing the actor's Rolex Submariner watch. The watch is worth thousands of dollars. But I think the paramedic might have just wanted a keepsake of Gandolfini. Maybe the paramedic was a fan of the actor. I know I was a fan of the Sopranos, and I enjoyed some of the movies that Gandolfini appeared in. What do PU members think? Did the paramedic have the right to keep Gandolini's watch as a keepsake? That might depend on the way it happened. Assuming the paramedic did take the watch: 1. Did he take it before or after Gandolfini was dead? 2. If he took it after Gandolfini died, did the paramedic take it off Gandolfini's wrist, or find it in the actor's hotel room? 3. If the paramedic took it off Gandolfini's wrist, was the paramedic trying to make Gandolfini more comfortable, by removing a constricting band from the actor's wrist? This can be an amazingly complicated event, that will be difficult to unravel. So: If you were one of the attending paramedics, what would you have done? Assuming you were a fan of Gandolfini. Would you have taken the watch, and told yourself, after Gandolfini died, that Gandolfini no longer needed the watch? Enquiring minds want to know. =================== =================== Paramedic Who Treated James Gandolfini Allegedly Stole Actor's Watch PEOPLE.com By Naja Rayne @najarayne 05/17/2016 AT 08:00 PM EDT A paramedic who treated James Gandolfini in Rome shortly before his death is on trial for allegedly stealing from the actor. According to NBC News, Claudio Bevilacqua, who was one of the attending paramedics when the actor suffered a fatal heart attack in 2013, is being accused of swiping the Sopranos star's Rolex Submariner, which is worth $3,000. Bevilacqua, 43, went on trial on Monday, but the judge decided to push the start of the trial back to November. It has not been confirmed if the watch taken from Gandolfini's hotel room or if it was still on his wrist we he collapsed, NBC reports. Gandolfini was 51 when he died while traveling in Rome as he was scheduled to take part in the Taromina Film Fest in Sicily. "He was a genius," Sopranos creator David Chase said at the time of his death. "Anyone who saw him even in the smallest of his performances knows that. He is one of the greatest actors of this or any time. A great dal of that genius resided in those sad eyes." | |
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| 05-18-16 03:18pm - 3140 days | #2 | |
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merc77 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 291 Registered: Apr 17, '16 |
The EMT had no right to take anything that was not his if that is the case. If it was offered to him, he should of refused it as it is his job to save lives. It seems everyone thinks they are owed something in life. That's my take from all of this. "Dogs think people are Gods. Cats don't as they know better." - Kedi (2016) Dogs have masters; Cats have staff. | |
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| 05-18-16 04:44pm - 3140 days | #3 | |
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Pyrenees (0)
Active User  Posts: 153 Registered: Feb 25, '15 Location: USA |
Of course its wrong to steal. Now if the guy simply wanted a keep sake I can understand that. If he tried to sell it them throw the book at him. It is typical of human behavior to revere certain people and objects. I could argue the watch could have a much better home with the paramedic if he just wanted to keep it forever in memorial of his Hero. Honestly what is 3,000 to his family? The dude was loaded, I highly doubt the family would have cared. I mean he JUST died and they noticed a watch was missing that fast. It just reeks of greed to me. At the end of the day none of us, not even his family can take anything with us to the great beyond. Greed is as fleeting as human lives. Lives which this paramedic saved plenty of. But hey that is just my opinion. Maybe his millionaire family was REALLY attached to that watch *sarcasm*. 1Ti 6:17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy; | |
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| 05-18-16 05:58pm - 3140 days | #4 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I hope that it was obvious that I was being ironic when I posted my thoughts about the "missing" Rolex. It's wrong to steal. Nobody will argue that. I wasn't there when Gandolfini died, but it seems highly unlikely he willingly gave the expensive watch to the paramedic. So if the paramedic had Gandolfini's watch, it seems obvious that the watch was stolen. When I wrote that "Restores my faith in human nature", I was trying to be cute. Based on the following ideas: Gandolfini died. Who will notice that his watch is missing? So if the paramedic took the watch, an expensive item that many people who know watches or recognize the Rolex trademark would realize it was an expensive piece of jewelry, the paramedic probably thought the risk was small that he would be caught. Why was the paramedic accused of the theft? The People article does not give details. But the paramedic probably did something stupid: either he wore the watch, and someone recognized it was an expensive piece of jewelry. Or the paramedic tried to pawn or sell the watch. And the pawnshop or the prospective buyer reported this to the police. As far as greed: I assume that Gandolfini was a wealthy man. He starred in the Sopranos, which was a huge hit for HBO. So he should have made a ton of money. His estate was estimated at $70 million at the time of his death. But no matter how much money his heirs will get (after paying taxes), I know very few people, wealthy or otherwise, who would be willing to turn a blind eye to a watch that is worth thousands. Whether the heirs claim it is a sentimental item or otherwise, it's only natural (natural human nature, as I understand it) for the heirs to want that watch, and to want the paramedic prosecuted. I don't call that greed. I call that natural human nature. Just because a person might have millions of dollars, they can still be as generous or as cheap as someone else who only has a net worth of hundreds or thousands of dollars. It depends on the person. I've read a story years ago, about an actress who was a leading lady in a hit TV series. The actress said she didn't leave tips when eating at restaurants because "She worked too hard for her money." I have no evidence that the story is true, but it seems logical to me, not fantasy, based on the ways people can think and behave. I've read other news stories about actresses that demand--and get--massive discounts if they buy expensive clothes--because they are "stars". On the other hand, actresses can be paid thousands of dollars (or more), if they wear designer clothes to celebrity events. So maybe it's natural for the actresses to wake up and realize that as celebrities they are entitled to discounts when they buy clothes or other items. Or not entitled. Depending on who is buying-who is selling. I doubt that the paramedic who took Gandolfini's watch was taking it as a keepsake. But maybe he will try to use that as part of his defense. Because if you read enough about criminal trials, the accused (or their lawyers) can come up with amazing stories about why they are innocent. And sometimes the fantastic stories will get the accused off or with a very reduced sentence. Edited on May 18, 2016, 06:41pm | |
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| 05-19-16 09:16am - 3139 days | #5 | |
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iknowwazzup (0)
Active User  Posts: 132 Registered: Jan 06, '16 Location: United States |
Of course, it is wrong to steal, but... I wonder what kind of money a paramedic makes in Italy. I find more and more these days that people are underpaid, even in high pressure positions. And then surprise, surprise, some individuals will feel that taking things while on the job is merely their way of evening the score. And you have to think that someone would only pull this kind of stunt as an act of total desperation. I means short of the person being very, very stupid. After all, anyone with any common sense isn't really going to think that a famous person's family or friends aren't going to notice when his pricey Rolex goes missing. Even if the guy had a lot of watches - it's just not something that's going to pass unnoticed - once the dust has settled. Of course, stealing from a dying or already dead person is a pretty disgusting thing to do, even if you are feeling a bit desperate about money. Unfortunately, people who feel shortchanged can have an incredible sense of self-righteous entitlement when it comes to them trying to equal things out by taking what isn't really theirs to take. | |
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