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| 01-12-12 05:30pm - 4690 days | #51 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Snort semen.... Ah, now that's a new twist (twist, like in a twisted lust). The ultra-free-thinkers out there can gang-up and pound on me with their barbed-fuddy-duddy sticks all they want, but this geezer  see this as just a further insane innovation cooked up by aggressive porn-pushers as another instrument sating the depraved appetites of a select market of shock-seekers.Hell, whatever will bring in a buck! Of course, this is just my opinion. An opinion I doubt will get much company. | |
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| 01-12-12 06:03pm - 4690 days | #52 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I don't know which genius came up with cum snorting but he might be the same guy that came up with pink eyes. In case some of you are ignorant of this particular fetish then it's basically when a girl gets a deliberate cum shot in her open eyes. That one still has a following with a portion of porn viewers. Where's the interest in that? Then again where's the interest in watching a girtl snort cum with her nose? I don't think this kind of porn could be attibuted to porn addicts because I've been watching porn for avery long time and that kind of stuff has no appeal for me. I think it's far more likely to be because of younger porn viewers that have grown up watching retarded shows like jackass. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-12-12 06:16pm - 4690 days | #53 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User  Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
I think the main attraction for that kind of stuff is simply in the shock-factor and novelty. I doubt many people really get aroused by the idea of watching someone snort semen through a straw or get a nasty load of jizz shot in their eye. Perhaps someone does, but I suspect they are few and far between. People probably want to watch this for the same reason they wanted to see that one-girl-one-cup clip that went viral a while ago. Hardly anyobody would get off on it and most viewers would probably be repusled, but it's like the car accident at the side of the road that makes everyone want to slow down to take a look. This kind of stuff is more like a Ripley's 'Believe It Or Not' version of a Porn flick more than anything else. I cannot believe such depictions actually appeal to individuals in an erotic way. I recently read a news story about a man in new Zealand who was arrested for trying to have sex with a lawn mower on his front yard--seriously. Sometimes, people have a fetish that would be considered bizarre by most. However, these are always the exception, not the norm. | |
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| 01-12-12 06:57pm - 4690 days | #54 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Well, I never gave your theory re. younger viewers a thought but you might be on to something, Pat! Who knows? I just, arbitrarily made a distinction between those who tend to remain content within their particular relatively softer niche and those who need ever increasing "hardness" in their porn. And that reminded me of addicts of harder drugs who have the same urge. | |
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| 01-12-12 08:34pm - 4690 days | #55 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I wish I could believe that but I've read too many people express a wish that their favorite performer do all sort of fucked up things like these: blowbangs, creampies both anal and vaginal, multiple creapies, ATM, PTM, dirty ATM, pink eyes, cum snorting, multiple facials to name but a few. Now the people asking for these aren't asking for a sex scene that might include one or more of these things but a video that only has these things. For me that means that they get turned on and sexually satisfied by watching this type of porn. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-12-12 10:51pm - 4689 days | #56 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
I am not sure if I know what half those terms are. Blow bang? I am not sure I want to know.  I still would think its a minority who really would actually get off on semen in someone's eye or snorting jizz through a straw. I can understand someone getting turned on by multiple facials or things like that but not in the eye. | |
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| 01-12-12 11:36pm - 4689 days | #57 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I think it is more the producers looking for an 'angle' or something 'different.' 'What haven't we done yet?' 'We haven't held her eye open & jizzed in it yet?' 'OK go for that!'  Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-13-12 05:19am - 4689 days | #58 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
I think there have been some sites which deliberately focused on the shock value to get publicity. Remember ShootingBambi, GirlsnCorpses and Stump-o-love? I don't recommend any of those sites, in fact I would definitely avoid the last one. I haven't checked if they still exist (which I doubt), but I can't imagine any of them were designed for on-going subscriptions. They were just designed to gets lots of traffic from blogs/news sites who posted about being shocked/amazed by the sites. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 01-13-12 09:49am - 4689 days | #59 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I'll appologize to BubbaGump and anyone else that didn't want to know because I'm going to tell you the meaning of all the terms I used. -ATM: (ass to mouth) It's basically when a girl sucks a penis or toy that was previously in her or another girls ass. -PTM.(Pussy to mouth) see above but replace ass with pussy. -Dirty ATM:This is the same thing as an ATM but the penis or toy has some shit or at the very least some anal juice on it.(yes it's as discusting as it sounds). -Pink eye and cum snorting was described on an above post. -Creampie is basically when the male ejaculates inside one of the females orifice. -Multiple creampies:same as above but here you get more than one guy to ejaculate inside the performer but without evacuating the previous creampie. Multiple facials:It's when many guys ejaculate on the face of a female performer. Blowbang:That's like a gang bang but the guys only use the girls mouth. This normally ends with a multiple facial. Now it's quite possible that some studios first used these things for shock value but whether through insight or pure luck. They managed to create a demand for some and I fear all of these things so that guys now request that their favorite star do one or all of these things. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-13-12 10:19am - 4689 days | #60 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I for one avoid most off mainstream sites, old fashioned perhaps? If there such a porn thing. But I guess I tolerate BDSM more then I do the fluid types. They just do nothing more then gross me out. I have watched and then go eeeew ! Not my cup of tea for sure. Since 2007 | |
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| 01-13-12 11:00am - 4689 days | #61 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
Disease time. There is a current legal debate about whether California industry workers should have to use condoms for vaginal sex, out of health concerns for the models. IMO that's the least of the health concerns if you are doing these things. It's funny that someone probably wouldn't eat a piece of candy that was dropped on the floor but would agree to put a wiener in their mouth that was just inside of a butt containing about ten kinds of harmful bacteria, and feces. My theory of why the younger 20-something generation is turned on by such things is because their first exposure to pornography included such depictions. It was already out there. It's not that anyone felt the urge to move up to the extreme to get turned on, it's that this is what they came accross at first and gained pleasure from by viewing. You then see that as pleasurable to view and the less extreme bits are not what you are accustomed to recieving pleasure from. Anyways, I am not here to judge. I just find it extremely distasteful and that is just my opinion. To each their own. I just think that the industry needs to tone it down a bit or it will bring unneeded attention from the feds looking to nab somene come election time. Also, it just hands out ammo to the critics. Edited on Jan 13, 2012, 11:04am | |
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| 01-13-12 05:51pm - 4689 days | #62 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^I think the law forcing companies to use condom for stuff shot in LA is all but a done deal. You should check out what the guy says on the bellow link. He has is haters but I'm not one of them. The guy makes a lot of sense and I agree with him that the industry is exactly where they allowed themselves to get to. http://www.mikesouth.com/ Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-13-12 09:24pm - 4688 days | #63 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
Yeah. I don't think a lot of players in the porn industry get it. The guy is spot on about self-regulation. I have said that a couple times already. Things are happening too fast and the industry won't get it until the Feds start cleaning house. Porn has kind of turned into a free-for-all. The dems aren't going to the be in control forever. Hatch is already demanding the AG beef up obscenity prosecutions. When the balance of power shifts back to the gop they are going to regulate things out the butt. Dems can't retain control forever and the cycle is shifting again. This industry has never been proactive and its going to come back to haunt it. This industry needs to start taking some proactive self-regulatory measures if it wants to keep from eventually imploding under the flood of govt regulations which will come the first time the GOP gets back into a position of dominance. I think profits have blinded a lot of people in the industry to reality. IMO, of course. | |
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| 01-13-12 10:11pm - 4688 days | #64 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^I believe that it's too late for Los Angeles. Like them or not. Condoms will be mandatory for any porn shot in LA. Now the majority of people are talking about moving outside of LA to shoot and that might very well happen but there's ahuge problem with tha idea. Porn is not actually legal anywhere other than LA so shooting anywhere else could be a legal issue. Of course porn is shot in many other cities since Bangbros and Reality King both shoot excessively in Florida but they don't have a permit like companies have in LA. One of my favorite studio is Kink and all their content is shot in San Francisco. The people who own that studio are geniuses because they bought an abandoned armory in 2007 and converted it to a gigantic porn studios. The owners are working on restoring and renovating the buklding to it's original splendour so that it's a gorgeous historical building from the outside and an hiden porn studio on the inside. This way the People at Kink can shoot porn with the blessing of the surrounding community and the city of San francisco. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-14-12 09:34am - 4688 days | #65 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
Hi. Interesting discussion. Technically, I think California is the state that openly permits filming. It all borders down to the question of prositution. Does paying a model to be filmed having sex on film constitute illegal sex for hire? In some states, the answer was yes and performers could get charged with soliciation and sex for hire. Producers could be charged as well. The key word here is 'could.' Most states are not going to actively pursue the matter if it is kept discreet and you don't go over the line. They have better things to be concerned with. Also, we here aren't the only ones who view porn and enjoy the medium. Politicians and conservatives are beating off to this stuff too. Porn is neither legal or illegal. It is in the twilight zone and exists in a grey area. You can't ban it because you can't define it. Is porn a depiction of a bare tit? Does it require full nudity to be qualified as porn? Or is porn showing gential action? Obscenity statutes are used to prosecute distributors and producers. Most of the time, it's the attorney general who goes forward with charges and the States rarely pursue it. To keep the feds off their backs, the industry should start being proactive and do things to further 'legitimize' the industry and clean it up a bit. Addressing health issues are good. But the industry should really start dealing with other concerns too. When you get porn popups and spam, they don't come from the pay-sites. Sites like RealityKings and BangBros are not spamming everyone's email box with junk and spam porn links. It's the pirated sites doing this. I hate spam and most everyone else probably does too. If I had kids, I wouldn't want them seeing this either. So, if you show the feds you are being responsibile, putting up links like the intro to this site about porn addiction and child porn reporting, it will all come down on the pirates. This would be an incentive for the FED to ramp up anti-piracy laws and aggressivley prosecute them, rather than going after porn producers for obscentiy. The producers are not the ones randomly exposing people and kids to porn via spam and popups. The biggest issue is making sure those who do not want to see porn, do not see it. | |
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| 01-14-12 04:51pm - 4688 days | #66 | ||
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
Personally, I like spam. It's how I've found out that I've got �25,000,000 waiting for me in Nigeria. It also gives me something to do while trying to figure out what things like "Mama's bottle is hot for chastity" mean.
I agree with the last part about keeping porn from the wrong eyes, but I don't discount the idea of some porn producers adding to the spam problem. From time to time, I still get e-mails from sites I'd joined years ago even though I've clicked on their unsubscribe link, sometimes more than once. I can easily imagine that someone ignoring such a request would also sell my legitimate e-mail address to the spammers. As far as the Fed getting involved goes, I don't think I have to remind anyone that the Internet isn't controlled by the United States. While we might be able to clean up our part of the mess, that still doesn't fix the big picture. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | ||
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| 01-15-12 01:39am - 4687 days | #67 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
No offense to the good people of San Francisco but it's not exactly a city that would be reluctant to give a porn studio its blessing. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 01-15-12 01:55am - 4687 days | #68 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but since when did anyone in the U.S. show that much concern for the heath and safety of workers in any industry?  I feel that the people ultimately driving most of these condom regulations are just puritanical moralists masquerading as people that supposedly care about performers' safety. It's like the anti-drunk driving movement really being an anti-alcohol movement. Though I'm sure many of the tell-all memoirs from porn stars in the last few years read like it, I doubt we'll see an equivalent of Upton Sinclair's The Jungle for porn anytime soon. (And at this point in the wake of the tsunami of 'net porn it would probably just turn readers on, not off.  ) And I'm betting condom rules will just push studios either away from LA or from DVDs to purely online content (little to no regulation) or both. Or worse they will simply not comply at all. If consumers don't want to see condoms then they will push the industry to react accordingly--demand will trump dumb laws every time. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 01-15-12 09:23am - 4687 days | #69 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
You might be right but if that's true then why have they never passed a law legalising porn like LA did? I think a huge part of why Kink has been so successful is that they bought an abandoned historical building and they've poured their money into renovating it. I'm not so sure San Fran would be all that open to many porn studios moving shop into their city and starting to shoot porn on a regular basis like they currently do in LA. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-15-12 10:01am - 4687 days | #70 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
Well, I wasn't trying to take a stand for or against condom use. I am just looking at this from the perspective of practical realism. There is a reality here that the industry must come to terms with. The industry has a lot of opponents who wield substantial power in Washington. This lobby who would like to shut down the porn industry. This won't happen but they can make your life miserable by regulating it out the ass. This goes beyond condoms. A self-regulating industry is key to keeping the Feds off your back. Obviously, I am a consumer of the industry. However, this has not blinded me to the fact that the industry has failed to self-regulate itself and has never been proactive. That is its Achiles heel. Some industry players usually never get it until the shit hits the fan. Critics realize that an outright ban on pornography is a pipe dream. What the critics and opponents are doing with the porn industry is the same thing that was done against tobbaco use--don't ban it, demonize it, in the hopes that consumption will slowly diminish over time. I have the right to do lots of things. I have the right to express myself how I see fit. I can walk down the street in pink shorts and purple cowboy boots while playing a banjo. However, while exercising my right to freedom of expression, I will only succeed in drawing unneeded attention to myself. If my goal is to gain acceptance and deflect the criticism of my detractors who say I am insane and should be avoided, this is not the way to do it. The time to do something is not when I have been hauled in for a psychiatric evaluation, only to declare I am entitled to freedom of expression and should be left alone. The best way to counteract being demonized is to take proactive measures to counter your critics. In other words, don't blow smoke in the face of those who say second-hand smoke is bad for those who are subject to it. If you keep it clean and keep it safe, the opposition that wields power will end up looking like the panty police going on yet another witch hunt, declaring masturbation causes people to go blind. | |
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| 01-17-12 12:25am - 4685 days | #71 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I'm betting San Francisco would require way too much regulation to attract a lot of porn studios. They're tolerant of a lot of things there but at the same time seem to have a lot of laws by way of the city's government, though the PU'ers from the area could probably offer a lot more insight on this. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 01-17-12 12:51am - 4685 days | #72 | ||
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I agree that the industry is pretty notorious for its indifference until things are too late--hence they only seem to understand things after they are dragged into court. Still its hard to imagine how things would have developed--or worse, devolved into a truly warped anything-goes black market--if you didn't have Larry Flynt pissing off our judicial system by reminding them we have a Bill of Rights, or had Traci Lords never made any films when she was underage. Porn is big business and still growing, but it always seems to operate on a precarious line between barely tolerated free speech and just obscene enough for the anti-sex nitwits to gather their pitchforks. Add to this how easy it is for any sanctimonious politician looking to pick up a few values voters to criticize it--while many of those same voters gladly consume said filth in private--and you don't exactly have something that might find a lot of sympathy from the law.
Except I don't think the industry is interested in gaining acceptance, just a constant flow of paying customers. Unfortunately the more they ignore the critics and don't actively defend themselves, including with self-regulation, the more it will hurt them. Granted the AIDS test requirements were a start, but how accurate or helpful is an STD test unless its done immediately before every shoot? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | ||
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| 01-17-12 10:47am - 4685 days | #73 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
That wouldn't surprise me and that's why many studios have some big decisions to make this year in regards to futur porn shoots in the US. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-17-12 11:01am - 4685 days | #74 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
Going to offshore production presents serious logistical challenges and increases production costs. First, you have to convince the models to spend 8 hours on a plane, pay for their travel and expenses, and the models will likely demand more money for their time. This might be acceptable for a big name studio but amateur studios like bangbros, realitykings, etc, it won't work. Regardless, if it goes offshore you can expect to pay a lot more for porn. Piracy will likely rise as the price rises. | |
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| 01-17-12 11:04am - 4685 days | #75 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
The USA isn't the only place porn is shot.  Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-17-12 11:38am - 4685 days | #76 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
I am really thinking of studios in the us who rely heavily on native amateur talent-bangbros etc. If there was a financial advantage to shooting offshore, there would be little filming in the US. If studios move production offshore to circumvent condom regulations, the consumer will be paying more to see thier favorite stars/studio. I just can't see it. A move out of LA is more likely. Edited on Jan 17, 2012, 11:41am | |
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| 01-17-12 09:36pm - 4684 days | #77 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I wonder if there are major hurdles to shooting in Las Vegas (at least DVD content). It already handles numerous adult conventions and is home to a lot of strip clubs and other adult-oriented entertainment. Oddly enough prostitution is legal throughout Nevada except Vegas, so maybe that would put an extra burden on production since they would have to be able to convince police that it's strictly a porn business their running. I found a blog post from three years ago saying that there's only a legal precedent for shooting in California (it doesn't say just southern California) but in theory it could probably be defended in court as being legal anywhere else in the U.S. Found another post from 2008 wondering if a hefty tax (25%  ) on porn would simply push it out of the San Fernando Valley, because the writer doesn't "think the fixed costs of production are very high, and I bet that workers in this industry are fairly mobile too." There's got to be more than just fewer regulations (for now) and a temperate climate keeping so much of American porn production there. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 01-18-12 05:50am - 4684 days | #78 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
Las Vegas would make sense. The legal challenge has to do with prostitution laws. Will the prosecutors go after you for engaging in sex for hire? By definition of the law in most counties and states, prostitution is defined as the exchange of currency or its equivelant for sexual services. It doesn't matter if the service occurs as the result of a production. You are still paying someone to engage in sex. The issue already came up in California courts and it was ruled that compensating an actor for engaging in sexual acts in the course of producing a film does not constitute prostitution. Other states do not have the same view and you would be prosecuted. Not sure about Nevada or its counties. Given that counties in Nevada already have legal prostitution, it would seem the courts would be inclined to side with industry and rule in their favor. Vegas would be a good fit if you could be assured immunity. It would benefit Vegas as well. It's already known as sin city. It would add to the allure. | |
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| 01-18-12 09:01am - 4684 days | #79 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I'm hoping we might actually return to topic soon! Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-18-12 09:46am - 4684 days | #80 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
Sorry about that. | |
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| 01-18-12 09:53am - 4684 days | #81 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
'Sokay! Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-24-12 03:30pm - 4678 days | #82 | |
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Secretease com (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 18 Registered: Oct 23, '10 Location: UK |
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| 01-27-12 08:15am - 4675 days | #83 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I think that is probably due to their relative rarity. Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-27-12 10:03am - 4675 days | #84 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Hooray! Long may you live!! | |
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| 04-24-12 10:10am - 4587 days | #85 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Not really of direct relevance to this thread, but I hope my good friend M returns soon. Don't let one tasteless thread destroy a regular part of your life, please? As regards disapproval of it, the absence of my posting on it should be a clue. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 04-24-12 01:33pm - 4587 days | #86 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I hope so too Capn, love his input and perspective. I do think on my own opinion we pushed the classy button in that thread. But to be successful in protest perhaps if he posted his own thread supporting something that was a rebuttle to it. Like what do you think makes porn classy Thread? Since 2007 | |
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| 08-24-12 06:02am - 4465 days | #87 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Sorry to dig this back up again, but I think the thread topic is still of relevance. ATK folk will know the photographer SeanR, for many there he has acheived the status of a demi god.  His change of style of late away somehwat from obsessive gynacology, was most welcome & most of his recent work does have some appeal for me. There...I never thought I would say that! Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 08-24-12 11:10am - 4465 days | #88 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
And models with extra hairy legs have achieved the status of demi-goddesses with many subscribers to ATK N&H. But, to respond to your SeanR remarks, in his case it was not so much the gynecological aspect of his work but his pantied crotch shots that appealed to me. Most of the other photographers don't bother with panties, bras etc. BTW, just received an email that Aunt Judys will be managed by ATKingdom by the end of this month. This will mean an introduction of their mature hairy models to AJ's site. I wonder how that will work out. In any case it has got to be better than the present, completely outdated way AJ's does business. | |
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| 09-12-12 03:10pm - 4446 days | #89 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Well, I would be looking for a step change improvement in AJ's fairly swiftly. That site has been well shy of the mark for some years. Also the membership price is still a bit salty for what you get. Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 10-17-12 10:33am - 4411 days | #90 | |
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AussieBabes (0)
Active User Posts: 2 Registered: Oct 17, '12 |
I think eroticism is something from the days before the Internet, it's still left behind to an extent, but is dying. The Internet has changed people, it's desensitized them. The future generations will all want hard porn! | |
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| 10-17-12 12:09pm - 4411 days | #91 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Well, I do hope you are wrong. There is still some softcore out there, but there is a massive gap between non-nude & midcore that is woefully underserved. These things do go in cycles & I think the market for hard core is more than saturated. Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 10-17-12 03:10pm - 4411 days | #92 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Capn, I agree with you that the market for hard core is saturated but I don't believe this will bring back something that is far softer, that massive gap between non-nude and "midcore" you are writing about. I think hard core will become ever more outlandish and extreme because people are indeed becoming more and more desensitized by the hour. | |
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| 10-17-12 03:13pm - 4411 days | #93 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Hi, AussieBabes, welcome to this forum. I so hope you are wrong about eroticism's dying. I think that reason and facts are on your side but an old man can always dream, can't he? | |
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| 10-18-12 05:46pm - 4410 days | #94 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
If there is eroticism in today's porn it is often quickly taken over by over the top hardcore scene. I have seen some awesome erotic scenes only to be spoiled by talking and hardcore added. I would hope too it is not gone, but I seldom see it as it was intended to be. Just seems arousal of sexual feeling by means of suggestion is gone as it is with strippers. There are those but quickly jump into a hardcore pounding ! Perhaps we have seen the last of it ?  Since 2007 | |
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| 10-18-12 06:15pm - 4410 days | #95 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I may be optomistic but I think that we will soon see the return of erotism to porn in the near futur. although I think that gonzo is still the most popular type of porn being made. I can't help but feel that many people who used to enjoy gonzo. Are now finding that it's just not enough. The pendulum has gone as far as it can and it's now swinging back toward more erotism. At least I hope I'm right because todays gonzo is really boring to watch. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 10-18-12 07:51pm - 4410 days | #96 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I hope you are right, Pat, because as Cybertoad mentioned sometimes a suggestion or a slow strip can be far more erotic than Gonzo where they jump each others' bones during the first few seconds. But I am not quite sure if Gonzo lovers would follow that anticipated pendulum back toward a more moderate eroticism, even though, as you rightly put it, today's gonzo is really boring to watch. I would be willing to bet that they would clamor for ever more excessive Gonzo (and get it by the law of supply and demand) rather than go back to something they find even blander. | |
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| 10-20-12 02:17am - 4408 days | #97 | |
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oldfizzywig (0)
Active User  Posts: 6 Registered: Aug 19, '12 Location: WI |
Gotta jump in and comment here. Pat has found the only porn that I know of that really does take the time to build the scenes slowly, sensuously, but still eventually get to the harder core. Girlfriend Films is probably the most truly erotic porn around. And, yes, it would be interesting if their eroticism could be made to include both male and female. Yet what they do seems to work best in an all female setting. | |
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| 01-10-13 12:14am - 4326 days | #98 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Well, I am still not seeing much eroticism around...  Are things improving on the video side of things? Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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