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| 01-13-18 05:29pm - 2492 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Would a bisexual-oriented site work? I saw a pic of Liam Riley - popular gay pornstar - and a whole bunch of Burning Angel stars along with Abella Danger - out together. It got me thinking "Would a bisexual-oriented site work?" Would it burn the talent for their future endeavors? I remember in the 80's there were some bisexual vids created and some of the talent - Bunny Bleu was one in particular I remember - were blacklisted as a result. The incident with August Ames shows the concerns that are out there - I'm not trying to raise all of that again. I think it was completely legitimate for August to have concerns about her well-being. If people had facts to respond to those concerns, they should have shared them with no hostility included. But it does show some of what is in the way of doing such a site. Then there's the matter of whether straight porn fans and gay porn fans would feel like "their" performers who took part in these scenes were tainted and stopped supporting those performers. Certainly there's a lot of people out there that are either actively bisexual or have bisexual fantasies that could be addressed by such a site. ChristianXXX is the only male performer I can think of in recent history that was able to go back and forth between TS performers and female perfomers, though I think he has gone to working exclusively with TS performers lately - by choice or not, I don't know. Thoughts? | |
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| 01-13-18 06:35pm - 2492 days | #2 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I'm not sure what you mean by bi-sexual site. There are she-male sites, or the more current term would be transsexual. (I think that she-male is considered a derogatory term by trans people). But I guess you mean bi-sexual in the sense of a single person swinging with both sexes. I don't know if that is a porn genre or not. There are plenty of scenes where a girl has sex with another girl, and also with a guy. Who is doing one or both of the girls. But I'm guessing you mean more like: two guys doing each other, and then with a girl. I haven't seen any of those scenes, because I'm not into gay porn. But I have seen some tranny sites, where it gets confusing, at least in my mind, when I see a tranny with a guy, or with a girl, and it confuses me because I try to fit the trany into a guy or a girl, and it doesn't work right. That's just me. I should accept/view the trany as a trany, instead of a guy or a girl. But I can understand a porn star having reservations about working with a bi model for health reasons. Except that any porn model could have reservations about working with any other porn model, male or female, for health reasons. Anal intercourse, blow jobs, even regular intercourse, can all be unhealthy as heck. And that's putting it mildly. | |
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| 01-14-18 11:23am - 2491 days | #3 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
The simple answer is no and here is why. 1-Only an estimated 3.5% of adults in the United States identify as lesbian, gay, or bisexual and of the 1.8% who identify as bisexual. More than half of them are women. 2-Most of the porn produced in the world is geared toward men and that includes both gay and lesbian porn. 3-The vast majority of gay porn fans only watch gay porn. 4-The vast majority of Hetero porn fans only watch hetero porn. 5-The only kind of gay porn an hetero man watched is in fact not some much gay as lesbian porn. 6-A very tiny amount of men watch transsexual porn and of those that do. I suspect that most only watch the kind where it's a TS with a woman. There are the odd men who enjoy watching TS with men but I have no idea the number it is. What all of that tells me is that if you happen to be gay and love porn then you are super happy because there is a very good gay porn industry. It also tells me that if you are hetero then you are even happier because there is a far greater hetero porn industry. The only group that really gets shafted are lesbian because sadly few producers think of them when they shoot lesbian porn. They know the money is with men and the kind they short may appeal to lesbian but the producer s were thinking of men when they were shooting the scenes. For that reason a bisexual porn site would not appeal to hetero men if most of the scenes are two men and one woman where the men have sex with each other as well as the woman and it wouldn't appeal to gay men if it's two men and a woman where the men have sex with each other as well as the woman. For obvious reasons those kinds of scenes would not appeal to lesbian. Since I stated that more than half of the bisexual people in the US happen to be women than it stands to reason that the kind of porn they would like would be the kind where they want to see at least two women in the scene with a man but where the man is servicing their needs far more than he is being serviced by the women. In regards to why crossover performers get blacklisted from the hetero side of the porn industry. The simple reason is that you are more likely to get an STI performing anal sex and since gay porn will usually only have anal sex in it then it stands to reason that performers who happen to have anal sex on a regular basis will be far more at risk of getting an STI than those that don't. Although it is still quite common to see crossover performers get blacklisted. In many ways it is a lot less than it used to be and more importantly should still be for the reason I stated above. Obviously most transsexual performers get blacklisted from the hetero side of the industry because they mostly only have anal sex and also only work with crossover, gay and other transsexual performers. Ultimately hetero men don't want to see two guys or two transsexuals or any mix of those have sex with each other regardless that there is also a woman in the scene. In fact it's not uncommon for some hetero men to find that a double penetration is sort of gay because the two dicks might come into contact with each other. Obvioulsy they think that if it's a dap. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-14-18 02:52pm - 2491 days | #4 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
I find the assertion that "A very tiny amount of men watch transsexual porn" given how much TS/TG porn is produced. There must be a pretty sizable market for it or there just wouldn't be the amount of production - with more - and higher production value - sites getting into the game all the time. Joey Silvera has been producing an increasing amount of material with biological females (there's gotta be a simpler term) having sex with TG performers - and increasingly you can find top-name female talent - like Adriana Chechik - in these scenes. But I suspect that it's still true that biological women in scenes where biological males are having sex with each other are going to be rare for a good while for all the reasons listed. There may actually be a very few such scenes on Kink's site. Actually, I just happened on a site called Cum-Eating Cuckolds that has women having sex with a guy in front of their male SO, and then the male SO being forced to give head to the other guy - so there you go. Edited on Jan 14, 2018, 02:56pm | |
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| 01-15-18 06:19am - 2490 days | #5 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
I'll confess to have read through this thread and I'm confused as to what you're looking for. I think a bisexual site could work but, as pat says, it is a narrow niche, though I don't think it's as narrow as pat posits. I don't actively go looking for bisexual sites so I'm no authority on them but I currently have a membership at Mile High Media and they have a bisexual site as part of the network. It has 130 scenes and is updating. I don't recognize any of the models but they appear to be Eastern European. | |
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| 01-15-18 07:48am - 2490 days | #6 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Well it's tiny when compared to b/g or lesbian porn and that was the thrust of my statement. I'd also like to point out that in fact there is very little TS porn being produced. As far as I know Kink's two TS site and the odd Joey video on EA is about the only place where you can find a regular amount of TS porn. There is a market for that kind of porn but it is so small that few sites would be able to survive if more of them tried to produce more of it. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-15-18 10:27am - 2490 days | #7 | |
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iknowwazzup (0)
Active User  Posts: 132 Registered: Jan 06, '16 Location: United States |
Most trans porn is watched by men who identify as straight and apparently there are also straight guys who watch gay porn. Of course, it's not for everyone, but I think that for some people watching porn is a way to explore their sexuality without actually going any further than that - even if they kind of like seeing it on screen and would never do in IRL. I am a bit confused about the bisexual porn question - just because so much so-called lesbian porn features straight women. I guess that doesn't mean that they're actually bisexual, but they're willing to play the part to make money. But I assume this original poster means bisexual porn involving men and women - that's a category available on more than one review site. https://www.thebestporn.com/categories_niches/bisexual_porn/ https://www.rabbitsreviews.com/c42/Bisexual.html Maybe I am missing something? | |
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| 01-15-18 04:57pm - 2490 days | #8 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
There's crazy amounts of TS porn being produced. Grooby is the company that owns the most porn sites and they've got a dozen or more. Devil's Film puts out quite a bit TS porn. There are sites focused on Brazilian TS, Japanese TS, Thai, Philipina, there are probably a dozen major Ladyboy sites, etc. Then, as I say there are an increasing # of higher production sites, such as TransAngels. | |
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| 01-15-18 05:04pm - 2490 days | #9 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Yeah, looking more around the internet, I see that there are a few sites out there where the participants are enjoying the sex, as opposed to the Cum-Eating Cuckold site, where the orientation is that it's humiliating for one guy to suck another guy's cock. So I guess the real answer to my original question is, "Yes, they work - they just don't have a very big audience." | |
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| 01-16-18 06:08am - 2489 days | #10 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
That probably sums it up perfectly. | |
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| 01-16-18 06:59am - 2489 days | #11 | |
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Otrivine (0)
Active User Posts: 54 Registered: Aug 28, '16 |
The Porn industry has always been an industry that likes to stick labels on sexual preferences and activities which we tend to use in our daily lives. Take for instance the TS/TG niche is often described as shemales, trannies, ladyboys, sheboys, etc.,... to name a few. What's in a name right? It is often very hard to correctly define and outline sexual behavior. There is often a very thin line and boundaries can easily be crossed. IMHO B/G, Lesbian and Gay porn will remain the top main categories with the biggest offer, biggest popularity and the highest number of fans. TS/TG content however seems to be pretty popular too and the offer, like PinkPanther mentioned correctly, isn't little. Grooby is probably the oldest and biggest TS/TG content production company. Although there is a lot of competition in this niche too. Let's think about DevilsFilm.com, EvilAngel.com, Transangels.com, kink.com and many more. Bi sexual content is certainly not a new niche and has its own fan base. However I don't believe that this niche will gain the same popularity and fan base as the above mentioned niches. The fact that bi sexual content is often mixed with other niches like BDSM, Fetish, Cuckolding, TS/TG, etc.,... might be a necessity to add some extra attention and popularity to this niche. | |
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