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06-12-12  07:48pm - 4575 days #51
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Thanks, Toadsith, you made my day! Glad you enjoyed our Steakhouse Burgers! Why did they withdraw them from the American market? Not enough demand? Or the health craze?

And please send those roving Canadians back to my side of the border, our local merchants are missing them badly! Traitors, one and all. Not only that but don't they realize that not all Canadians live within a couple of minutes drive from the border and have to look on with raging envy as they get their chicken and cheese and other goodies practically at half price just because of someone's protectionist ideas!

06-12-12  08:28pm - 4575 days #52
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Thanks, Toadsith, you made my day! Glad you enjoyed our Steakhouse Burgers! Why did they withdraw them from the American market? Not enough demand? Or the health craze?

And please send those roving Canadians back to my side of the border, our local merchants are missing them badly! Traitors, one and all. Not only that but don't they realize that not all Canadians live within a couple of minutes drive from the border and have to look on with raging envy as they get their chicken and cheese and other goodies practically at half price just because of someone's protectionist ideas!


I may not be Canadian but I am looking forward to the CFL season starting this week, GO ROUGHRIDERS!

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06-12-12  08:43pm - 4575 days #53
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Thanks, Toadsith, you made my day! Glad you enjoyed our Steakhouse Burgers! Why did they withdraw them from the American market? Not enough demand? Or the health craze?

And please send those roving Canadians back to my side of the border, our local merchants are missing them badly! Traitors, one and all. Not only that but don't they realize that not all Canadians live within a couple of minutes drive from the border and have to look on with raging envy as they get their chicken and cheese and other goodies practically at half price just because of someone's protectionist ideas!


Glad to have brought some humour into your day I have absolutely not a single, solitary clue as to why the beloved Steakhouse was removed. Some say it was a loss-leader, but if it remains on the menu in Canada, it seems like production costs mustn't be that high - it wasn't like it was any more expensive. In fact, I think with the exchange rate, I paid less.

I gotta say, after trying to buy some grocery products in Canada - I'm not surprised people take the trip over. Especially the state controlled booze, OMFG that that shit is expensive.

Ironically, if they are buying their booze in the "North Country" (aka: St. Lawrence county and the other super northern New York counties) they aren't getting a huge savings. Driving the extra 3 hours to Syracuse or other central New York cities will net a 25-50% price drop. We get royally screwed up here in the wasteland that is the North Country. Of course, the trip probably wouldn't be worth it for normal groceries, unless you have a refrigerator installed in your car. Though it might be worth it for reaching a Wegmans supermarket, as they have a superior cheese selection. Of course, this all applies only if you live in southern Ontario or southern Quebec. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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06-13-12  10:18am - 4575 days #54
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You might have something when you say that you are getting royally screwed in the "North Country" .. because it seems the farther north you go the more screwed you get when it comes to prices. I live on the Atlantic Coast, so just imagine how screwed we are!!

Not only that but we are considered to be a minor market which means that we usually get what's left over after Ontario and Quebec get their pick, or so it seems! So, not only high prices but also poor choices all around. We are hardy and stout folks though .. we shall survive! Especially with the help of Steakhouse Burgers!

06-13-12  05:02pm - 4574 days #55
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Your whole argument is very eloquently expressed. The purpose of debate is to clarify. Even a guilty offender is entitled to a defence in court.


Originally Posted by Reveen:


Also an argument like "well we pay more for other stuff anyway" is a weak argument.


It was not an argument a priori. It was an a posteriori explanation of why europrices might largely be accepted, whether or not they are justifiable. I agree that it does not provide any justification for the practice.

Originally Posted by Reveen:


I don't think local taxes can be used as an excuse either because if the website is paying local taxes then this is already factored into the price that the website charges. The website doesn't collect a higher tax rate off foreigners than it does local customers.


Local taxes are a valid argument only for sites based in the UK or EU. They are required by EU law to charge VAT for intangible, electronically delivered content, to customers based in the UK or EU but not to customers based elsewhere. That is what the British Library do and explain and I am sure they are not motivated by greed.

Originally Posted by Reveen:


I think this argument really deals overwhelmingly with sites that originate in the US or that do most of their business in dollars, thus they fix their prices based on the dollar (like met-art). I've found the incidence of Sterling or Euro-denominated websites imposing regional pricing to be much lower than that of american websites, perhaps US members could mention if they've been charged regional pricing by European websites?


I absolutely agree that US based sites have no a priori justification for any regional variation beyond a strict currency conversion by exchange rate.

Originally Posted by Reveen:


Perhaps these US dollar websites are under the false impression that Europeans are wealthier than them? Perhaps they've been living under a rock and haven't heard of the "Euro Crisis" (with Spain now requiring a bailout there is a good chance that the entire Euro may collapse). Or perhaps they just think that we are rubes and are gullible enough to pay over the odds for their sites (which clearly some subscribers probably are).


Yes. A very plausible explanation of why US sites believe they can get away with regional surcharges.

Originally Posted by Reveen:


I don't see why I should be charged more than an American for no good reason (and there is no valid reason for regional pricing in my opinion) and I don't see why I should be subsidizing other users just because they are one nationality and they are another.


Again, I agree completely in the case of US sites, where I think your argument is well put and incontrovertible. The jury would, I am sure, reach a verdict of guilty on the US sites.

Whether a boycott would result in US sites lowering EU prices to match US prices, or raising all prices to cover what they were previously making via regional pricing, is something we may never know.

I am not opposed to a boycott of regional surcharging by US sites; I merely doubt its likely effectiveness. The verdict may be just and the sentence apposite. Whether that prevents the convict from re-offending is another issue, alas.

06-13-12  11:34pm - 4574 days #56
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I knew you would fit right in, CP, my friend!

'Eloquent' on its own is not enough.

Add concise & explicit.

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06-14-12  07:49am - 4574 days #57
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Thank you Capn. The civil nature of the discussion on the forum makes a safe environment for debate. I value your approval, my friend.

07-01-12  09:02pm - 4556 days #58
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Hey there, I just wanted to let you know (especially the non-US Met-art fans I guess) of what feels like a small victory, albeit a completely accidental one.

I was doing a websearch on something unrelated and completely by accident found a link to a Met-Art promotion on one of the websites I visited in that search. There was a blog entry on the site entitled Met-art Network for $49.95 a month.

So I went to the link, thinking it might be a scam on for it to go to a proper met-art promotion offering the full Met-art network (including sex-art, TLE and the rest). So I keep going through the sign-up process fully expecting to get hit with the Euro price at the end, but I didn't

Not only that but each site is billed separately at $9.95 per month so if I want to drop 1 or 2 sites and keep the others I can, woo! Met-art used to be one of my favourite sites, for a few years I subscribed to the yearly membership at $99 until they went to regional pricing so it makes me really happy to be able to reacquaint myself with some of my favourite models

I'm guessing that site rules prohibit me from posting the link but maybe the admins here could include the promotion on the review page or tpb or something. If not then try searching for met-art network july 4th special or something. And I'm sure US metart fans here wouldn't mind some of that $50 action either

07-22-12  02:30am - 4536 days #59
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Evil Angel added to the list of shame.

Thanks, elephant

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07-22-12  02:38am - 4536 days #60
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Evil Angel added to the list of shame.

Thanks, elephant

Cap'n.


Hi capn

Maybe regional pricing yes but think there is still a way around this and if you put in language USA on the email signup page it gives you the USA price $14.95 and then you can change this to UK and enter your UK card and it appears to of worked but will have to double check with my creditcard statement to confirm that's what I got charged. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE

07-22-12  10:37am - 4536 days #61
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Yes, well I am pleased you made progress, but as I have said before; a customer should not need to find work arounds to get a fair deal!

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08-19-12  11:44am - 4508 days #62
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Another added to OP.

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09-30-12  02:19pm - 4466 days #63
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Just had to revive this to add Brazzers!

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10-01-12  01:44pm - 4465 days #64
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Just had to revive this to add Brazzers!

Cap'n.


Its interesting that Brazzers do use regional pricing but Twistys doesn't yet they are both Manwin companies.

Housewifekelly.com is another one to add to the list, it's a great solo amateur hardcore site but it's moved to regional pricing as well.

Just for the hell of it I checked one of my old favourite solo-model sites which is loooooooooooooong dormant, Alisonangel.com and not only is it charging regional pricing but its passing off old material as new. When I saw updates there for 2012-09-28 and 2012-09-25 I started thinking "Holy Shit Alison Angel is back???" but then when I checked the set names against my own files, its all 4/5 year old material that their trying to claim is new. Pretty shady move imo.

10-01-12  03:50pm - 4465 days #65
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Thanks for that, my friend.

Added to OP. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award
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04-11-13  04:23pm - 4272 days #66
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Another one to add:

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