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| 12-23-18 07:06am - 2098 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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BoyWithaProblem (0)
Active User Posts: 5 Registered: Feb 11, '18 Location: UK |
Any experience of surfnet as a billing site? Just a quick question, I tried to signup to a site via CCBill but bizarrely the CCBill card details page will only take Visa not MasterCard.  Never come across this issue before with CCBill, I can only guess it's a thing between the pornsite and CCBill re differing charges? I don't have a Visa card. Anyway, there's also a http://www.surfnetcorp.com/ signup link that does take MasterCard, but does anyone have any trust ratings/issues to share before I do? Is cancellation easy/reliable? | |
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| 12-23-18 09:43am - 2097 days | #2 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Never heard of surfnet. So no opinion, except that CCBill, Epoch and Vendo are safe, easy to deal with. I suggest applying for a Visa card. They are free (no annual fee or processing charge), and should be easy to sign up for. I seem to get over 10 offers from credit card companies every week. But go on the internet for faster signup. If you want to be extra safe, use a pre-paid credit card. But I've never bothered. And so far, I've never gotten a fraud charge I've had to pay for. (Except I did have to pay for a 1-year membership to Sinemia that Discover ruled was a valid transaction, even though I never got a single movie ticket, and was supposed to get 3 tickets per month. And I sent Discover the email that Sinemia told me my membership was suspended, because I was disputing the membership fee ($179.8  , because, as Discover told me in writing, "the merchant is willing and able to provide their service." Which I told Discover was a lie. They never processed a single movie ticket after all my attempts, and when they suspended my membership, I could no longer log in to the Sinemia cell phone app: I got the message: Login denied!So either Discover did not believe me, when I said I never got a single movie ticket, or they did not believe the copy of the email from Sinemia stating my membership was suspended (since Discover said Sinemia was willing and able to provide the service), or Discover speaks nonsense English. So I've lost a lot of respect for Discover. | |
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| 12-24-18 04:33am - 2097 days | #3 | |
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BoyWithaProblem (0)
Active User Posts: 5 Registered: Feb 11, '18 Location: UK |
Irk2fireone - Thanks for the advice. Just to add a little more, I eventually did try signing up via surfnet with my usual (Prepaid) Mastercard only to be refused due to a 'Risk rating'. I'm guessing that the problem might be that I normally surf via a VPN, what with internet surveilance being an apparently international hobby of governments everywhere and so one I naturally resist. This almost always causes CCBill to decline the transaction, they sometimes emailing me later to chase the failed transaction (which they'll then accept via online chat), but this rejection never happens with good old Epoch. So I used CCBill this time without VPN only to hit this baffling 'Visa only' restriction. I'm loathe to signup for a Visa card for just one odd site's limitations. I may seek a prepaid Visa giftcard before trying that. With CCBill now commonly viewed as the 'PayPal of the porn industry' in terms of trust, I can just about see why they don't like VPNs, albeit these are becoming more & more recommended/normal for travellers and others. But why oh why does the biggest in the business allow sites to limit accepted cards to just Visa? Does anyone know more than me about their charging schemes? | |
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| 12-24-18 05:57am - 2097 days | #4 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
My recommendation would be for you to join pick one of the holiday special deals. 21 Sextury, GirlsWay, Devils Film, etc. are all Adult Time sites. RabbitsReviews.com is offering links to special deals. (RabbitsReviews is a owned/operated by the PU/TBP sites owners/operators). Email customer support before joining any site. Email is to get it writing that you are getting the free Adult Time add-on, which is the way it's supposed to work, but doesn't always work in practice. You should automatically get the Adult Time network as a free add-on to your membership in any one of the Adult Time sites. Unlimited downloads, unlimited streaming, access to over 50,000 hardcore videos. Over 100 separate channels (Adult Time calls their sites channels). A fantastic deal, a huge amount of high quality porn, covering a wide range of niches, for a very low price. However, I think Adult Time is still in beta testing. And they can advertise different things. I see a Devils Film site description of Adult Time, where they give you 69+ porn channels free. But I also have a sub to 21Sextury, and they say they give you 129 porn channels free. So I recommend, choose the porn site in the Adult Time network, with a low discounted fee, and email customer support or do a live chat, and get a copy, to prove that you are entitled to what the email or chat tells you. Adult Time should give you a lot of high quality sites, for an amazingly low price. So there should be more than enough good content to get your money's worth. --------------- --------------- Being in the porn business means dealing with lots of fraud and other problems. Any porn site is normally considered a high-risk transaction. As well as the stigma of dealing with a porn site. So payment processors and credit card companies often question any transaction with a porn site. That helps explain why the payment processors (CCBill, Epoch, whatever) charge higher fees for porn payments. I've read that CCBill charges 16% per transaction. In addition to a security deposit. Other payment processors have very high fees for any porn transaction. Makes you wonder how the porn sites stay in business, because the payment processors are taking so much money from them. ---------- ---------- PS: I like your reviews. They are interesting to read. But I wouldn't join any of the sites you review. Different strokes for different folks, I think.  | |
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| 12-26-18 03:32am - 2095 days | #5 | |
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BoyWithaProblem (0)
Active User Posts: 5 Registered: Feb 11, '18 Location: UK |
Hi Irk2fireone - thanks for the advice and for the positive vote for my reviews; I will try to write some more soon. As you say, we have differing tastes, mass-market multichannel sites are less likely to work for me, 10 years ago they would have done however. I guess that's the effect of doing porn or anything else longterm, your brain tends to get tired and seek novelty. I'm intrigued that as an experienced used you've not found the same? I think this general subject, of what still works in porn, probably deserves a new thread that I'll try to start sooner or later. Plus, as stated before, the modern trend for porn to emulate young ladies body fashions in general and go down the skinny route just does not work for me. I bet their mothers look better than they do. So I often find myself looking at less common sites, hence all the more annoying for them to play games with joining. As you say, with hefty charges levied by the big porn billing companies and porn in general being in recession (due to the availability of so much free vanilla flavour variety) it makes me scratch my head as to why any site would reject a customer at the final sign-up stage because they have a little-known payment method called MasterCard. How do they stay in business? Anyway, I will try to start a thread on what I touched on here soon. Meanwhile, have a great Xmas break. | |
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| 12-26-18 03:32am - 2095 days | #6 | |
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BoyWithaProblem (0)
Active User Posts: 5 Registered: Feb 11, '18 Location: UK |
Hi Irk2fireone - thanks for the advice and for the positive vote for my reviews; I will try to write some more soon. As you say, we have differing tastes, mass-market multichannel sites are less likely to work for me, 10 years ago they would have done however. I guess that's the effect of doing porn or anything else longterm, your brain tends to get tired and seek novelty. I'm intrigued that as an experienced used you've not found the same? I think this general subject, of what still works in porn, probably deserves a new thread that I'll try to start sooner or later. Plus, as stated before, the modern trend for porn to emulate young ladies body fashions in general and go down the skinny route just does not work for me. I bet their mothers look better than they do. So I often find myself looking at less common sites, hence all the more annoying for them to play games with joining. As you say, with hefty charges levied by the big porn billing companies and porn in general being in recession (due to the availability of so much free vanilla flavour variety) it makes me scratch my head as to why any site would reject a customer at the final sign-up stage because they have a little-known payment method called MasterCard. How do they stay in business? Anyway, I will try to start a thread on what I touched on here soon. Meanwhile, have a great Xmas break. | |
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| 12-26-18 03:32am - 2095 days | #7 | |
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BoyWithaProblem (0)
Active User Posts: 5 Registered: Feb 11, '18 Location: UK |
Hi Irk2fireone - thanks for the advice and for the positive vote for my reviews; I will try to write some more soon. As you say, we have differing tastes, mass-market multichannel sites are less likely to work for me, 10 years ago they would have done however. I guess that's the effect of doing porn or anything else longterm, your brain tends to get tired and seek novelty. I'm intrigued that as an experienced used you've not found the same? I think this general subject, of what still works in porn, probably deserves a new thread that I'll try to start sooner or later. Plus, as stated before, the modern trend for porn to emulate young ladies body fashions in general and go down the skinny route just does not work for me. I bet their mothers look better than they do. So I often find myself looking at less common sites, hence all the more annoying for them to play games with joining. As you say, with hefty charges levied by the big porn billing companies and porn in general being in recession (due to the availability of so much free vanilla flavour variety) it makes me scratch my head as to why any site would reject a customer at the final sign-up stage because they have a little-known payment method called MasterCard. How do they stay in business? Anyway, I will try to start a thread on what I touched on here soon. Meanwhile, have a great Xmas break. | |
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