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| 04-08-19 12:39pm - 2085 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Dead man's family bring dead man back to Canada to avoid US healthcare costs. Dead man's family bring dead man back to Canada to avoid US healthcare costs. This is terrible. The man died, and his family, instead of filling out the paperwork and paying whatever the US costs were, decided to drive the man's body back to Canada. However, Canadian officials found the dead man's body, and are investigating: should the dead man be returned to the US, where he died? Or should the man be buried or cremated in Canada, where the wild moose roam free? What are the wishes of the dead man: to be buried in the country of his citizenship? Or--to be buried in America, where President Trump, our glorious leader, is making America great again? We have PU members who should respond with their thoughts on the issue: if they come to America (America is the land of the free, unlike Canada, which, as President Trump has pointed out, is a threat to US national security), and they happen to die in our great land, should the remains stay in America or be shipped back to Canada? Or maybe shipped to Mexico, where the funeral costs might be lower still? Enquiring minds want to know: Is Canada an ally of the US, or a security threat, with people coming down to the US because they want to die in the land of the free? ---------- ---------- Canadian family drove home with dad's dead body to avoid U.S. healthcare costs: officials Alex Lasker, AOL.com Apr 8th 2019 11:17AM A Canadian family caught driving home from the U.S. with their dead relative in the back seat was allegedly trying to avoid the cost and hassle of bringing him to an American hospital. Louis Drapeau, a 60-year-old Quebec man, was traveling back home from Florida with his two elderly parents when his 87-year-old father, Louis, died of a suspected heart attack, the Journal de Montreal reports. Drapeau's son and wife decided to bring his body home by themselves in order to avoid the high cost of American health care and repatriation, according to the Toronto Sun. Border agents at the Mooers, New York-Hemmingford, Quebec crossing found the man's body around 2:30 a.m. on March 31. At that point, responding paramedics said he had already been dead for about two days. The man's son and his wife, both of whom reportedly appeared distraught during the incident, fully cooperated with officials, who were stunned by the discovery. "This is never seen," Pierre Fortin, the president of the Customs and Immigration Union, said of the case, according to the Journal de Montreal. The incident remains under investigation. An autopsy will be conducted, although foul play is not suspected. | |
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| 04-08-19 12:44pm - 2085 days | #2 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
Honestly, I think it's more about the fact US health care is extortionately expensive and can lead to bankruptcy. For example, I ski across the border in Vermont but I'm aware if I break something, I need someone to drive me across the border because I am not bankrupting myself. | |
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| 04-08-19 03:57pm - 2085 days | #3 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^I think too many Canadians forget that while we have the longest undefended border in the history of the World and it's super easy to cross it. The US is not Canada and if you are going just to do some cross-border shopping then make sure you have insurance because you never know what can happen and you will quickly discover just how bad it is if you get into a car accident that requires both ambulance and in hospital medical services. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 04-08-19 04:44pm - 2085 days | #4 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Years ago, I had some problem where I was experiencing a lot of pain, and wasn't sure what the cause was. So I went to the emergency room of a hospital. I saw a doctor, and he admitted me to the hospital. The hospital transferred me to a different room after I was admitted. I was given a few medicines. Then a nurse told me I was going to be transferred to a different room. The nurse told me the charge to transfer to a different room would be $2000. I said I didn't have that kind of money, and I said I wanted to be discharged from the hospital. So I had to sign papers that I was leaving the hospital against doctor's orders. I was in the hospital for about 12 hours. This was all in the same day. The hospital bill was about $9,000. I was given 3 aspirin (regular aspirin, without any codeine or other addititives), and the bill I got in the mail was, $8.00 for each aspirin pill. This was regular aspirin, mind you. The kind that you can buy for about $5 for a bottle of 100 pills. I was given some other medicine, $430 charge. I asked an outside pharmacist what the same medicine would cost, he said about $50. The $9,000 charge was from the hospital, it didn't include doctor's fees, which were separate. So, unless you have complete medical coverage, it's very easy to be bankrupt from medical bills. I didn't have any operation or any surgical procedure. Just being observed. But $9,000 for 12 hours in a hospital. And if they had transferred me to a different room, the charge would have been another $2,000 (the nurse told me). There's no way an average person can afford medical care, without insurance or some other coverage. I think this happened around 2003. So the prices would be much higher today. Because every year there is inflation: even if the US government figures don't show how much prices are really going up. | |
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| 04-09-19 02:14am - 2084 days | #5 | |
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careylowell (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: May 22, '08 Location: Brigadoon, USA |
Your tab results from us being saddled with a for-profit health care. My insurance recently paid approx 92% of my 48 hour hospital stay for kidney stones. I was on the hook for three grand. That's a lot of clams for someone with my rinky dink job. | |
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| 04-09-19 04:24pm - 2084 days | #6 | |
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Loki (0)
Active User  Posts: 395 Registered: Jun 13, '07 Location: California |
I've had chronic health problems since childhood. I'm on SSI because I cannot work, and qualify for MediCal. But because my condition requires specialists I cannot get access to under MediCal, I still have to buy an individual policy at full price (I cannot get subsidies because I qualify for MediCal) to get access to the health care I need. The cost for the policy is almost 67% of my monthly benefit from SSI. The United States has some of the best health providers in the world, but the absolutely worst delivery system for health care among OECD nations. It's a disgrace. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." | |
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| 04-09-19 07:50pm - 2083 days | #7 | |
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biker (0)
Active User  Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
It isn't just the cost. The United States has poor healthcare with or without insurance. Warning Will Robinson | |
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| 04-11-19 09:16am - 2082 days | #8 | |
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merc77 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 291 Registered: Apr 17, '16 |
They are greedy as well. Case in point: I am a veteran who had a stay at a hospital a few years back. I told them to transfer me to the VA hospital so the bills would be taken care of. I was transferred with no problem and released through the VA healthcare system. I then started to receive the bills and informed each of them to wait a few months so the VA Fee Basis program could process each claim to get their monies. It is a government agency so it can take up to six months for payments to clear. The hospital as well as the other healthcare services decided not to wait for any payments so they sold the debt to a third party debt collector. I was contacted by them almost immediately and told them they were all shit out of luck. I wasn't going to pay them a dime. The VA Fee Basis also will not pay them a dime as not one of those debt collectors did a medical service for me. The hospital and contractors did not want to wait so they sold the debt knowing full well the debt collection agencies wouldn't see a dime. Trust me, I told them it was not worth it to harass a veteran who went through the correct channels and processes so people would get paid. I stopped getting harassed immediately afterward. As for VA healthcare, it gets a lot of bad publicity but has been quite good for me. I wouldn't go back to private care for anything. "Dogs think people are Gods. Cats don't as they know better." - Kedi (2016) Dogs have masters; Cats have staff. | |
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| 04-11-19 10:56am - 2082 days | #9 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I think you were lucky that the debt collection agency stopped harassing you so easily. I had a contract with DSL Extreme (they were bought out by AT&T). I was in the hospital and then a nursing home for a couple of months. So my contract expired, then was re-newed automatically while I was in the nursing home. When I got out, I explained to DSL Extreme that I was in a nursing home, and that I hadn't used the service. And that I wanted to cancel the monthly fee. They turned over my current bill to a collection agency immediately. I sent letters to the collection agency, telling them I had been in a nursing home, and hadn't used the internet service. They asked for proof I was in a nursing home. I gave them proof. They said it didn't matter: I still owed the bill (I think it was around $50). So I paid the bill to the collection agency. But I've heard stories that collection agencies can hound you for years, if you don't pay old bills. What surprised me was how fast DSL Extreme turned over my bill to a collection agency. Because I was talking to several of their agents, telling my story, and bing: I got a bill from the collection agency, without DSL Extreme telling me the account was turned over to the collection agency. | |
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