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| 03-30-10 08:45am - 5381 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
700 Club and Porn So I'm laying on the couch home sick from work flipping through the channels, and see a photo of Sasha Grey on one of them - so of course I stop to watch! Interestingly it was a story on the 700 Club laying much of societies ills at the feet of pornography. Which I though was pretty comical. They threw out all these ridiculous stats about people that commit sexual assault are more likely to look at pornography, but didn't say anything about people looking at porn being any more likely to commit sexual assault - a more useful statistic I would think. My guess is that those that commit sexual assault are more likely to be honest about their porn habits. Of course, this is some bat-shit crazy religious show, so I guess it is not that surprising, and of course they also threw out the usual shit about porn causing teens to become sexually active and porn ruining families. I could see those that are truly addicted to porn having all kinds of social problems, but for the vast majority I don't think it amounts to much of anything for most people, just as most people can have a beer without becoming addicted. Anyone see this, or have any opinions? This attitude that porn is absolute evil seems to be gaining steam in the States, I've seen several news stories about it over the past several years. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 03-30-10 09:55am - 5381 days | #2 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
It's something to concentrate on rather than focus on real issues such as illiteracy and health care shortfalls. Focus on anything that doesn't involve costing the rich or middle classes money, in the form of taxation to fix. Just pick on any easy target - gays, blacks, jews, women's rights, porn, liberals, whatever. Make them the focus of hate. It's easy to get stupid people to hate them, and their focus will be away from the social injustices. In fact blame them for the social injustices too. It's their fault. Simple. | |
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| 03-30-10 10:04am - 5381 days | #3 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
1. Porn doesn't make a rapist. 2. Guns are not unsafe, and owning one doesn't make you a terrorist. 3. Driving a Preis doesn't make you and environmentalist 4. Spanking your monkey wont make you go blind. 5. Voting is a right, having a drivers license is not. Its all goes back to the individual nut job, if your insane, then rules, regulation and society mean nothing. Since 2007 | |
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| 03-30-10 10:07am - 5381 days | #4 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Finally, something that explains why I am like I am. | |
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| 03-30-10 10:24am - 5381 days | #5 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
I don't know according to Pat Robertson there is a direct correlation between oral sex and cancer, so perhaps healthcare would be cheaper if we all didn't look at porn because god wouldn't be smiting so many of us with illness... Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 03-30-10 12:10pm - 5381 days | #6 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
That may be true but it may also get you in trouble with ASPCA and PETA. Isn't it just enough to say "Bad Monkey" or put it back in it's cage for a timeout ;) I used to occasionally watch some of the religious nut job shows for some humor. My favorites are the ones who are always predicting that the end of the world is near and that every news headline is a harbinger of armaggedeon ... just like it was last week ... and the week before that .... You also got to love Pat Robertson too since he manages to find God's message in every natural disaster (it's pretty much because all of "those people" sinned -- I'd love to see what he'd say if a tornado destroyed his tv studio). Of course, no one can top the Westboro Baptist Church (www.godhatesfags.com) which unfortunately has no tv show but has protestors everywhere, including military funerals where they harass families of fallen soldiers with signs proclaiming that the soldier's death was caused by America's homosexuality problem. Frankly, America is a hell of lot more tolerant about porn today then it was years ago which is mainly due to the internet and the fact that everyone looks at now. The religious puritans, right wing nut jobs and others looking for a scapegoat will always turn to porn as being a primary destructive force since we all know sex is bad unless done solely for reproductive purposes. They've already lost the porn culture war, it's just that it is still effective at drawing attention to their cause and for raising money. | |
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| 03-30-10 12:30pm - 5381 days | #7 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I once saw this show on daytime TV in which two people, a man and a woman, were interviewing Sasha Grey and asking her why did porn. At the end, they asked her if she would stop, having pointed out the danger of getting STD's. She said she wouldn't. The whole thing seemed rather strange and hypocritical. They were using porn as a way to entice a viewing audience while "legitimizing" the whole thing by speaking out against it. I mean, if they'd only met privately to dissuade Sasha from doing porn, that would have been one thing, but broadcasting it is quite another. In real life, I avoid the "700 Club" types as much as I can. They're really nuts. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 03-30-10 12:35pm - 5381 days | #8 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
Yeah his whole "new orleans brought this on themselves" thing was quite disturbing. What I'd love to see is his porn stash, as I guarantee it is massive, and probably quite filthy stuff. It seems all too common that those that speak out so strongly against sexual issues are doing it mostly out of shame of their own sexuality or sexual proclivities. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 03-30-10 08:03pm - 5381 days | #9 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
How many times has Tyra Banx had ponstars on her show? I know it's at least twice and both of those times the piece was pretty skewed to make porn has being the worst evil plaguing society. No offense to Tyra but how about having models on the show discussing how they are turning America into a society of women that think that anything above a size "0" is fat? How about seeing what a super models daily intake of food is? How many cigarettes, speed and cocaine you have to take to trick your body into not eating when you are starving? I think the Religious Right should take a good long look at the fashion industry before they bother with porn. How many girls are growing up thinking that they are ugly and fat because of fashion magazines? How many women think the same thing and it's still the fashion industry that's to blame. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 03-30-10 08:26pm - 5381 days | #10 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
Sure, but porn is a much easier target and getting on the case of models and whatnot does next to nothing to promote their no-sex for fun agenda. I'd say plenty of offense to Tyra, she seems pretty insane and doesn't seem to get the hypocrisy that her entire industry and career are based in some part on selling sex. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 03-30-10 11:15pm - 5380 days | #11 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
This is a lot of where the raging part of my name comes in. It never ceases to amaze me that any televangelist can be seen as a source for moral leadership. Look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson_controversies and tell me how much faith you have in what's shown on his program. Yes, porn is an easy target - and one of the smoke screens they use to hide what they're doing in their own lives. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 03-30-10 11:19pm - 5380 days | #12 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Oh America, how your religious fanatics amuse me so! :-) I have almost given up pointing out some of the many all too obvious failings, hypocrisies, and outright lies and fairy tales the religious fuck-nuts continue to unleash upon the world, including the 'Christian nation' of the U.S., but let me mention a few of the shining stars. - Ted Haggard: former leader of the evangelical mega church he founded in Colorado, and who supposedly talked to President Bush (the dumb one) on a weekly basis until he was accused of doing meth and having gay sex with a male hooker. Whoops! But Ted's not gay and he only bought but did not use meth, later saying he was "heartsick." - The Catholic Church: though I am sure plenty of rapists and sexual predators get their rocks off with porn, at least they don't go around posing as trustworthy and spiritual figures to children. Oh wait, some of them apparently do, and having been doing so for quite some time in the Catholic Church. Now I am not accusing all Catholics of the being child rapists but the church leadership itself is in the middle of a huge scandal over not just all the rape, but the covering up of all the rape, including by the now current pope, who first dealt with the scandal when it began and he was a cardinal. - Pat Robertson: oh, does this mentally disturbed, unapologetically bigoted, television-savvy cult leader really need a mention? He does run a university though, whose law school provided a lot of the, uh, 'talent' in the last Bush administration even though it's not highly rated but very conservative and christian. - Westboro Baptist Church: already mentioned by another member and they're pretty small as it is. But you have to sort of admire how honest and vocal they are in expressing their core beliefs which other groups hide in a veil of political correctness and vague 'principles.' I mean really what's that different in another group or a politician arguing against gay marriage or the gay 'lifestyle' because they say it's 'unnatural' (religion) or 'not traditional' (religion again) or that it's simply a 'sin' (religion, three times in a row!)? Just because someone doesn't use the word 'fag' or stage angry protests doesn't mean they don't share much of the bigotry and hatred of a more controversial group. Back to your original point, slutty, I also doubt eliminating porn is going to do much for eliminating rape or any of the other social issues blamed on dirty pictures and movies. I would even argue that rape and other sexual crimes would increase with the elimination of all porn as porn serves at least as a modicum of an outlet for some of the more violent and aggressive members of our chaotic society. Take away people's porn then they might just go straight for the source of their aggression--real people in real life, not on a computer screen or the page of a magazine. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 03-30-10 11:46pm - 5380 days | #13 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
When I saw Sasha's appearance on Tyra Banks' show (you can find it on YouTube if you're interested) all I could think was "How can this one woman (Tyra) pass so much judgment on this other woman (Sasha, filthy dirty sinning porn star) without looking at her own life and career?" Didn't Tyra start modeling at seventeen or eighteen? Pretty much the same age as 'victim' Sasha Grey started her career, but I'm sure Tyra would argue modeling has nothing to do with sex or sex appeal...right, and I'm only on PU to improve my knowledge of geography. ;-) Why are some people so obsessed with 'helping' others who they feel, looking through their special lens on the world, are on a wrong path or life? Why can't people live their lives and work their careers without having someone else shove their 'moral and values' down their throats? (Sorry for all the quotes, but they're necessary.) Who exactly is Sasha hurting or victimizing? Maybe at one time she beat out another starlet who needed work to pay rent or health insurance, but what apocalyptic revelation, social ill, society-will-crumble problem is Sasha or her fellow perverts pushing upon our poor civilization? Grow up and wake up, Tyra. For a former swimsuit and lingerie model you certainly seem to establish an incredibly fine line between actual sex and the underlying sexuality in your own modeling. I don't think people stare at women in bikinis and thong underwear because they are interested in the fabrics and natural scenery... "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 03-31-10 01:34pm - 5380 days | #14 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
I have within me an almost limitless capacity to accept persons who are different from me and ideas that I do not share. Having said that, I go from zero to insanely-borderline-violent-crazy when I hear the whacky religious nuts drone on. I think the one big difference is that while they demand that I accept and tolerate them, their ideas, if widely accepted, would not give me (and the rest of us at PU) the same courtesy. And I think it's fitting that we comment on fundies as we prepare to celebrate the time when our Lord rose from the dead and, with the help of rabbits, distributed chocolates to the Chosen People. At least that's what I've been able to figure out. | |
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| 03-31-10 02:09pm - 5380 days | #15 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
You must be a member of South Park's Hare Club For Men Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 03-31-10 04:56pm - 5380 days | #16 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
It would seem that at least some people agree with your assessment that accesibility to porn may prevent rape turboshaft: http://www.slate.com/id/2152487 Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 03-31-10 05:13pm - 5380 days | #17 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
The paper that the slate article references is pretty interesting if you the time to read it: http://www.law.stanford.edu/display/imag...over%20+%20paper.pdf Uses economics to determine outcomes rather than psychology (similar to Freakonomics) Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 03-31-10 05:14pm - 5380 days | #18 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I really think it's just a matter of people like Tyra having her cake and eating it, too. Porn stars will create a lot of buzz for the show's ratings. The things that Sasha has done on video just contribute to that. It's probably good for Sasha, too. But they can't come out sounding anything other than against it. You know, if Sasha played a sadistic vixen in one of the "Saw" movies, or suchlike, they wouldn't be wagging their fingers at her. Here in the US of A, that would be just, you know, "normal." I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 03-31-10 10:22pm - 5379 days | #19 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Wow! Maybe I should become a sociologist, but I'm sure there's a 'no creeps' policy in that field.  I might have heard something along the lines of what that article is saying but I was just thinking that if the next potential Ted Bundy is too busy sifting his way through some huge network site or just organizing his collection--since that seems to have the potential to take up the most time--then he's not out looking for doe-eyed innocents to throw down into the well in his basement. And then the money he saves on lighting for his well and moisturizer for his captures he can use to buy more porn to take up his time. Just a theory. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 03-31-10 10:36pm - 5379 days | #20 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I haven't seen all the "Saw" films yet (so busy...) but I would say that the "Hostel" ones are even worst, particularly the second one since it's about three young women who are kidnapped, tortured, with one of them even lucky enough to get slayed as well. What message, even if purely for entertainment value, is being sent by the way the characters are treated onscreen or even how most of them are implied to being treated off screen? What message are audiences sending by continuing to watch this repeatedly? Of all the filthy, degrading, even violent porn I had seen up until "Hostel 2" none of them made me as uncomfortable as that horror film. Don't get me wrong, I am for pretty much any kind of free speech you can think of, even the nutty, to-hell-with-common sense religious kind I was bashing above, but I think a society as a whole has some problems when it so eagerly and aggressively condemns the consensual acts, however 'obscene', of porn but doesn't even blink over the bloodshed in even the most typical horror of today's film releases. I still don't completely understand how backwards we are here, or I somehow still refuse to believe we have to continue to exhaust ourselves over centuries-old Puritanical fears of sex while maintaining an apparent indifference to violence. I am not even angry, just baffled--America is one crazy country! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Mar 31, 2010, 10:40pm | |
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| 03-31-10 11:20pm - 5379 days | #21 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I think it the same reason Go-daddy is popular because it uses sex, is the same with religion. Why not manipulate the viewer. Hey put a pretty face, nice boobies and tight ass and I can watch it cause there telling me its bad. Well folks thats America.  Since 2007 | |
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