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04-21-11  07:14pm - 4994 days Original Post - #1
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Interesting Porn related interview on CBC podcast

Today on Q (a CBC radio show) there was an interview with a woman named Diane Ford with a porn-related connection. The topic was the adoption of the .xxx domain. Anti-porn groups are opposed to it because they say it legitimizes porn, but porn companies are opposed too. I hadn’t thought of this, but the porn argument is that if you ghettoize porn into the xxx domain then it is easier to censor. According to the interviewee, and this makes a lot of sense, it is far easier to block sites based on what come to the right of the dot than it is to the left of the dot. It would simply be too easy to shut porn off.

The interview isn’t long (12 mins) and is worth listening to. Just google “CBC Q” and you’ll get it. It’s on ITunes too.

Not relevant to anything, but since this show, Q, came on the air I really tried hard to hate it. It hasn’t worked. The host is an excellent interviewer. But… I detected a different tone with him in this interview. Like he was trying not to support the porn industry. (He’s a 30-something guy, so he knows porn) I’m going to email him and point this out. I’ll keep you informed if I get a reply.

04-21-11  07:22pm - 4994 days #2
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From what I've read. The biggest reason why almost every if not all porn studios will never go the .xxx route is because it is super easy to block or restrict .xxx sites using a basic filtering system. Long live the Brown Coats.

04-22-11  06:50am - 4993 days #3
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Originally Posted by pat362:


From what I've read. The biggest reason why almost every if not all porn studios will never go the .xxx route is because it is super easy to block or restrict .xxx sites using a basic filtering system.


Yes an no, according to the interview. The industry says that it is too easy to block a whole domain type, and the anti-porn people say that while that is easy it will also create a false sense of security for parents who simply assume that nothing bad can happen on a .com or .net site.

04-22-11  09:14am - 4993 days #4
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^True but I think that the industry is more affraid that at some point the body governing domain name would force them to switch to .xxx thereby making it super easy for all ISP to filter porn or limit access which is more what might happen. Rememeber what Google was trying to do with their Net Neutrality system. This was basically a way for Google to control the internet since it would allow ISP to control how much bandwith you allowed for some sites making some super slow while others would be super fast.

Who would join a porn site if he knew that downloading any videos or photosets would be a matter of hours instead of a few minutes? Long live the Brown Coats.

04-23-11  03:26am - 4992 days #5
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Surely even if the US Government forced US adult sites (who are the minority globally) onto a .xxx TLS there isn't a lot they could do about all the adult sites which are hosted/operated in other countries. If they had any effective way of dealing with that then they would have shut down all the illegal content sites which are hosted outside the US. They haven't even managed to sort out the online gambling sites yet!

It seems to me that forcing the US adult online industry onto .xxx would effectively give it a massive disadvantage against non-US competition, and lose the US a lot of employment and tax revenue. Financially it doesn't make any sense.

Then there's the complication of the non-porn adult sites, softcore sites, art sites, adult humour sites, sites showing 18 rated Hollywood movies etc. Would they have to be on .xxx too? Trying to force sites onto .xxx via legislation would simply be a colossal mess, and probably a mass of legal battles. Persuading Europe to follow suit too would be almost impossible - we value our freedom too much. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

04-23-11  09:07am - 4992 days #6
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:

Persuading Europe to follow suit too would be almost impossible - we value our freedom too much.


Seriously?

You like in the UK and can say that with a straight face?

04-23-11  09:10am - 4992 days #7
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And, uh...

just to check, you guys all do know what a domain name actually is, right?

http://66.115.137.185/forum/forum_thread.html?threadid=2307

04-23-11  11:03am - 4992 days #8
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Just so we undertand the body governing domain name is not a US based one but International. When they talk about creating a new .xxx for all adults sites they mean all adults sites in the world and not just in America. In many ways this is more a cash grab than anything else. By creating a new .xxx domain for porn sites then you are almost forcing most of them to register their site under that domain as well as keep their standard .com domain simply to prevent someone from coming up with kink.xxx, brazzer.xxx, 21sextury.xxx and so on. Long live the Brown Coats.

04-23-11  04:53pm - 4992 days #9
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Originally Posted by anyonebutme:


Seriously?

You like in the UK and can say that with a straight face?
Totally straight face. Based on experience I am more free now than I was 20 years ago - authority powers have been curbed, Police work within MUCH tighter restrictions, the new human rights laws etc. The press hype up loss of rights, but they love to make things look a lot worse than they are, don't they. For women and minorities that seems to be even more the case. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

04-23-11  04:54pm - 4992 days #10
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Just so we undertand the body governing domain name is not a US based one but International. When they talk about creating a new .xxx for all adults sites they mean all adults sites in the world and not just in America. In many ways this is more a cash grab than anything else. By creating a new .xxx domain for porn sites then you are almost forcing most of them to register their site under that domain as well as keep their standard .com domain simply to prevent someone from coming up with kink.xxx, brazzer.xxx, 21sextury.xxx and so on.

But that doesn't force them to move (ie drop the .com). Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

04-23-11  05:48pm - 4992 days #11
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


But that doesn't force them to move (ie drop the .com).


True but imagine someone buying the kink.xxx, Brazzer.xxx and any of the other domain name. You know that some traffic will start to go to those domain names and by default this will hurt your overall tracking numbers. It gets worse if whoever buys the .xxx domain name of any of the ones I named and opens his own site. I know that's a stretch but it's still possible. You would force the studios with a .com to fight these people in court.

Of course I could be in left field with this and none of the things I have said will ever come to pass or could come to pass. Long live the Brown Coats.

04-23-11  07:44pm - 4992 days #12
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Originally Posted by pat362:


True but imagine someone buying the kink.xxx, Brazzer.xxx and any of the other domain name. You know that some traffic will start to go to those domain names and by default this will hurt your overall tracking numbers. It gets worse if whoever buys the .xxx domain name of any of the ones I named and opens his own site. I know that's a stretch but it's still possible. You would force the studios with a .com to fight these people in court.

Of course I could be in left field with this and none of the things I have said will ever come to pass or could come to pass.


The interview addressed this, and it confirms your point that this is a cash grab. The .xxx suffix goes live soon and there is a grace period where companies will be able to buy names to block their further sale. So Kink will essentially have to but Kink.xxx even if they never plan to use it. Same with Brazzers, Videobox, etc.

What a great way to shake down porn sites.

I'm going to put my thinking cap on and dream up a similar way to do nothing but make money off of churches. Those fuckers have lived off the cultural teat for far too long. I want in on that business. And I do mean 'business.' I'm thinking about writing a science fiction book about these space creatures that millions of years ago expelled spirits from a distant world and how we need to get in touch with those inner spirits again. No one has ever done this before. I'll target some big celebrities too.

When I get rich I'll have a pool party with an open bar.

04-24-11  09:47am - 4991 days #13
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:



I'm going to put my thinking cap on and dream up a similar way to do nothing but make money off of churches. Those fuckers have lived off the cultural teat for far too long. I want in on that business. And I do mean 'business.' I'm thinking about writing a science fiction book about these space creatures that millions of years ago expelled spirits from a distant world and how we need to get in touch with those inner spirits again. No one has ever done this before. I'll target some big celebrities too.


If that's the case then you better get a move on because I don't think this particular religion has very long to go before Goverments get involved. I do believe that very soon they will find out that theyr are no longer going to be tax exempt. Long live the Brown Coats.

04-24-11  12:06pm - 4991 days #14
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Originally Posted by pat362:


If that's the case then you better get a move on because I don't think this particular religion has very long to go before Goverments get involved. I do believe that very soon they will find out that theyr are no longer going to be tax exempt.


I'd call that a good start! I think it was the late Frank Zappa, when speaking about churches, who said "tax the fuck out of them."

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