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11-19-11  11:50pm - 4781 days Original Post - #1
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Out side of the obvious what do you think changed porn?

Outside of the obvious ( that being the internet and websites) what do you think changed things to become porn?

Burlesque, Cave art, Playboy, this stuff goes back hundred and thousands of years. As a kids I recall seeing nudity on PBS and it was not porn, however some censors thought it was.

National geographic has been showing, every piece of the human body for 100 years.

So as I asked this question,I know something occurred somewhere at some point.
Was it cancan girls in the old west, Burlesque or blue movies?
Belly dancers are erotic and entice you to look at their body intensely, is that Erotic or pornographic? I mean if we saw a full dressed lady slide her hand down her pants would we think that was erotic or pornographic.
Obviously being nude does not make porn, nor does porn mean being sexual in nature. As pole(dressed)dancer and belly dancing are not porn.

I have said when asked, porn is in the eye of the beholder, just like the addiction to it also reflect ones view. Just like having a beer does not make you and alcoholic. Nor does
nudity, erotic or sexual make porn.

Websters says:
Definition of PORNOGRAPHY
1
: the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
2
: material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement


This is not true as explained there are many things sexual and erotic that are not pornographic.

You guys are all smart cookies this was my take, whats yours ? Since 2007

11-20-11  12:57am - 4781 days #2
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I will say that the biggest difference to me is the "CONVENIENCE" of Pornography and it's vast availability. There is "free" porn everywhere...but for some odd reason I feel unfulfilled unless I pay for it. IDK what it is.

I remember as a teen viewing my first boobage in Playboy Feb 1984 Issue...Justine Greiner. Still to this day I fantasize of meeting someone like her on day.

I stole the magazine from my uncles stash. He had hundreds of dirty mags. I picked that particular issue since it was in the middle of the stack and I figured he wouldn't notice.

Well, he knew I took it because I remember him making whackin jestures at me during adult conversations when my mom wasn't looking. He would wink and make that fist to crotch up and down and laugh silently as mom (his sister) was turned around...I was blushing and my ma was so unsuspecting.

But later that night, I would pull out the magic from under my mattress and whack a doodle do a couple times a night. My heart would race to an uncontrollable beat and there I was. From that day on I would delve into all the issues My uncle had. I put that Playboy back and got another. It was like checking out books at the library.

On the 5th issue of Playboy my uncle finally caught me and told me...Look kid, you better not fuck up my shit. okay? Don't spooge on the magazine. That's what orphan socks are for. You know the ones ya mom puts in a knot? Okay, I expect you will respect my stuff, but I will kick your ass if I find one drop of anything on any page of it, capish? Well, that was an open invite to fantasy land.

I slowy grew out of Playboy, into Penthouse...then it was OUI, then Hustler. Finally as I got older I started hanging out at the Adult book store. The clerk knew me by name within a month. Mayfair was a big favorite of mine, Gallery and Swank were not that far behind. Later it got more "specialized" Legshow, Leg Action, ASS Parade...

Well, skip to 1993. I get my first computer...256 colors. Flesh tones...and VAVOOM! I've never seen a porn as good as I did on that day...ON A SCREEN so vivid! So perfect. As the years went by and hundreds of floppies later, the CD burner was born. Then EXT HDD. 500 GIGA then 1.5 TB..Yep. It's been quite a ride. In the succinct words of David Lee Roth...I like your high heels too..No No No, Don't take them off, put them back on, keep them on. Edited on Nov 20, 2011, 01:01am

11-20-11  03:00am - 4781 days #3
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I am not sure I really understand the question.

Libido & arousal has always been around, promoted by pornography in various forms down the ages.
Even Rubens' portraits were pornography in their day, sponsored by the rich elite who could indulge themselves.

The first big step was the invention of photography.
For the first time you had a real person there as opposed to a purely artistic representation.

The next big step was the Instamatic. That released the amateur photographer from the potential embarrassment of having his naked main squeeze ogled by the technician at the developing shop.

There was a sonic boom with the invention of digital photography.

The big bang was the internet. It opened a whole new world of possiblities, which are still being discovered and exploited as technology expands ever onwards.

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Edited on Nov 20, 2011, 10:34am

11-20-11  03:57am - 4781 days #4
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That's the best concise history of porn I've ever heard, Captain.

Fantastic. Obviously there are lots of other details but you've zeroed in on the fundamental key points perfectly. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

11-20-11  08:03am - 4781 days #5
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If I had to put it in just one word...

Technology

Technology has driven the proliferation of porn. Many experts agree that the rapid acceptance of the internet would have never happened had it not been for porn. I certainly agree.

11-20-11  09:52am - 4781 days #6
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


That's the best concise history of porn I've ever heard, Captain.

Fantastic. Obviously there are lots of other details but you've zeroed in on the fundamental key points perfectly.


Thanks.

That was my Concise Potted History of Pornography for People in a Hurry.

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11-20-11  10:00am - 4781 days #7
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Originally Posted by bebelover:


I will say that the biggest difference to me is the "CONVENIENCE" of Pornography and it's vast availability.


I think a lot of us have similar stories about your Uncle's stash of Playboy. And then going on to Penthouse and other sources.

But at least for several years, it was enough to just look at the photos. Whacking a doodle came much later.

11-20-11  12:01pm - 4781 days #8
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I think the one word answer of t9chome is probably the best and simplest answer. Capn gave name to the different technological advancement but he skipped what I consider the biggest one of all and it's called moving pictures or cinema.

Prior to cinema. The best you could hope for was a series of photograph that depicted an individual or individuals in various states of dress or even maybe where they have sex but cinema gave you moving pictures. Can you imagine what that must have been like? No more need to flip from photograph to photograph because it's all happening on screen. The next piece of technology is sound. I think this is in many ways just as important as moving pictures because sound added another stimulus. Long live the Brown Coats.

11-20-11  01:57pm - 4781 days #9
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My buddy Bud, about the age of my parents had a bunch of 8mm movies. Three other friends were visiting his trailer ... oops, mobile home and he broke them out. After hanging a bed sheet for a screen we watched every one he had. Most all the ladies wore sunglasses and high heels and nothing else. Close to the end of the show, we heard some commotion outside and investigated. In the street in front of his place stood a dozen people watching the films, back projected on the bed sheet he had hung over the picture window. After the show I drove home and woke and ravaged my girlfriend who was amazed and mystified by the level of my ardor.

Bud owned a smoke shop with a huge magazine rack full of skin mags, rather tame by today's standards. This was the early seventies. In the late sixties was published the Report of the Presidents Commission on Pornography. I think it sold about 8 or 10 copies until someone had the idea to illustrate it. It then became a best seller at 25 bucks a copy and Bud’s smoke shop had lines waiting to buy it. In a town of about 30 thousand people Bud went through about 5,000 plain brown paper bags. He then took a vacation / buying trip to Scandinavia and began importing erotica by the truckload. Jimmy, Rudy and I were his content advisors, unpaid but well compensated. unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck.

11-20-11  05:23pm - 4781 days #10
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Originally Posted by Micha:


My buddy Bud, about the age of my parents had a bunch of 8mm movies. Three other friends were visiting his trailer ... oops, mobile home and he broke them out. After hanging a bed sheet for a screen we watched every one he had. Most all the ladies wore sunglasses and high heels and nothing else. Close to the end of the show, we heard some commotion outside and investigated. In the street in front of his place stood a dozen people watching the films, back projected on the bed sheet he had hung over the picture window. After the show I drove home and woke and ravaged my girlfriend who was amazed and mystified by the level of my ardor.

Bud owned a smoke shop with a huge magazine rack full of skin mags, rather tame by today's standards. This was the early seventies. In the late sixties was published the Report of the Presidents Commission on Pornography. I think it sold about 8 or 10 copies until someone had the idea to illustrate it. It then became a best seller at 25 bucks a copy and Bud�s smoke shop had lines waiting to buy it. In a town of about 30 thousand people Bud went through about 5,000 plain brown paper bags. He then took a vacation / buying trip to Scandinavia and began importing erotica by the truckload. Jimmy, Rudy and I were his content advisors, unpaid but well compensated.


What a great story! Thanks for sharing it.

11-21-11  05:51pm - 4780 days #11
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I think at a fairly early point in the story it was when mammals started smelling each others' butts.

But seriously (yeah, sure) the forerunners were Playboy and then all of the other skin mags (not that Playboy is just a skin mag; depends on whose hands its in). And with that and the pill and Ensalen and feminism, etc., the sexual revolution.

It took awhile for the porn part of it to permeate the enormous dark side of society and to become less taboo. Now these days, being a female porn performer does not carry the stigma that it used to, and that's one significant form of women's liberation. (Sorry to all of the ball-busters who cloak their hatred of men as a worthy social cause.)

And technology carried it right along. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

11-21-11  10:27pm - 4780 days #12
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The biggest change that effected me was the invention of the VCR. I could get serious hardcore porn in the pivacy of my home for the first time. It was great to see Felecia, Seka, Annette Haven, and all the Lynns work their magic. Warning Will Robinson

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