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03-23-14  05:18am - 3927 days Original Post - #1
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Shortlist of warning signs for bad sites?

I was googling for Sineplex and found a paysite which somehow gave an impression of maybe not being the most reliable... and there came this question: How to know if a site is "safe" to join? Are there some obvious warning signs one can look for?

Now I have no idea if that site is good or bad, but by looking at it I thought:

1. Domain changes: clicking on sineplex.com -> legalporno.com
2. Strange or complex options: "Join or buy tkt"
3. Clicking on help-button takes me to a registration page?

If this site is fully legitimate etc then please understand I only use it as an example and do not mean any harm to it.

What would you say are the most obvious warning signs to look out for before joining a site?

03-23-14  06:25am - 3927 days #2
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The help button/link taking you to a registration page should be a definite red flag. It would make me very suspicious - what are you supposed to do it you cannot log into the members' area? Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

03-23-14  06:52am - 3927 days #3
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The site is legit if you like piss drinking and tons of extreme rough anal sex. Sineplex is the company name (I believe) and legalporno is the website name. The join is, I believe, a tkt system which has been debated a little as good vs bad (Undesirable personally and I seen several amateur sites have that "feature" like clips4sale.com ) While I have not joined legalporno there are several people on here that have. You can view their comments here. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

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03-23-14  08:54am - 3927 days #4
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LP (Legal Porno) is the site that has risen from the ashes that were Sineplex, Sinsational and a few other studios. There is also a couple of porn producers that have migrated to them. Not the least of which is a guy called Giorgio Grandi. Anyone familiar with the more extreme style of Eastern European porn has seen some of his movies because he shot for many studios other than his own. I don't know how many people will remember a site called no rest for the ass. It's no longer listed on TBP/PU so you would think that it's dead but it's still active and still robbing people of their hard earned money by pretending to still be active. In fact LP is in many ways doing the same thing except they are still updating with new content.

Here is what you need to know about LP. It's a token based system where you need tickets to buy a large portion of their library. Some scenes only cost one ticket but some can cost as much as 8 tickets. You can either join the site for a minimum 30$ and that will give you access to their free stuff(I'll get to that later on) and it also gives you 35 tickets that you can use to purchase scenes.
You can forgo the membership and simply buy tickets but you don't get the free stuff you'll have to spend 38$ to get 30 tickets so not as good a deal as the membership.

Now in regards to the type of porn you will find on LP. It's primarily gonzo porn with a major emphasis on circus style porn. In case you don't know what that is then it's basically gonzo porn where the girl is normally expected to be pile driven by huge dicks and toys in all her orifices repeatedly in a wide variety of less and less comfortable positions with multiple shots of the girls gaping holes and where passion is not a word that is used. These guys are the masters of European circus porn so if you like that then you will love these guys.

Most of their scenes are shot in a bright white room and on a white couch so that girls who already look pale now look even more so. I think these guys go out of their way to make sure that a beautiful woman will look as drab as possible. Glamorous will never be a word associated with them. I dare anyone to point me to one of their scenes where the performer is made to look as beautiful as I know she is.

Their ticket system is already a scam for me because a site that charges for a monthly membership should offer it's members access to their entire library and not make them pay even more but it gets worse. You'd think that since they have a ticket based system that it would only apply to their most recent stuff and you are partially right because any update that is 2 years and older winds up in the free section but that 2 year limit is for when it was uploaded and not production date. There are tons of videos that are significantly older than 2 years. I found one that was at least 5 years old in the ticket section of the site because it was uploaded in December of 2012 but actually made in 2009.

Now about the free stuff. There are over 1500 videos in the section but many of these are not exclusive to this site because they are for the most part taken from Sineplex and Sinsational movies that can be found on VB and since both studios really stopped producing movies a few years ago than they are old and getting older.

Finally the cherry on top of this turd flavored sundae. You can buy only tickets to download their videos or join the site for 1, 2 or 3 months but no matter which option you pick. There is till one thing you need to do before downloading a video. You need to authorise the site to charge you an unknown amount on your credit card and then verify with your bank or CC company to find out what that amount was so that you can enter it in their system. Yes you read that correctly. You are confirming a charge without actually knowing what it is. They write on their site that the amount is between 20 cents and 2$ but who's to stop them from charging any amount they want since you didn't actually see it prior to accepting their terms.

They say they do it to make sure that it's your card and not a stolen one but that explanation is so stupid that it borders on the insane because to get that request means that you have to have already bought tickets or actually joined the site. Any site with such a strict policy would make sure to do it prior to the person joining the site so that you have the legitimate person buying something. What I get from this type of policy is a way for the site to make money from people joining who refuse to let the site charge an unknown amount on their card and still gets money from people that stole the card in the first place but can't actually partake of the site . Now in case anyone is thinking that I'm making this up then let me assure you that I am one of the suckers who joined this site earlier this year and I refused to get an unknown amount charged on my card. I contacted their support center the moment I tried to download one of the ticket based scenes and found out I couldn't until I jumped through hoops for them. I might have downloaded some of their free scenes but for whatever reason I was never able to get beyond the first page so I didn't download a single thing from the site and I told the support person all of that and I told him to simply cancel my membership and credit me for the full amount. His answer was that he couldn't do that because I had legitimately joined the site so the best the (fucker) gentleman could do was credit me 10$. That's right. I was a member for less than one hour, didn't download a single thing and all I was entitled to was 10$ from my original membership of 30$. Needless to say I hope these guys go out of business. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-23-14  11:20am - 3927 days #5
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Dear Pat... your amount of typing is beginning to impress me

Any suggestions on where to find lp:s and giorgio grandi's scenes on some more trustworthy sites?

03-23-14  01:06pm - 3927 days #6
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x Edited on Apr 20, 2023, 02:24pm

03-23-14  05:49pm - 3927 days #7
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Originally Posted by Schirm:


Any suggestions on where to find lp:s and giorgio grandi's scenes on some more trustworthy sites?


The only legal place where you can find LP's ticket based content is on their site and nowhere else. Their so called free stuff can partially be found on VB under Sineplex and the 2 Sinsational studios. They currently have 178 movies and or 818 scenes. Not sure if VB is still adding new movies under these studios but I seriously doubt it as the last date I saw on one of their videos is 2012 and that sounds about right when it comes to the birth of LP.

Giorgio is a very different thing but the news is in many ways worse because he shot for so many studios that there is no single site that will give you full access to his stuff. I'd also like to add that I am pretty sure that stuff that is not identified as by shot by him is still stuff he shot.

Since TBP/PU no longer do business with no rest for the ass than no way to join through us but you can Google it and you will see the site is still active but I must warn you that you may regret joining that site. There is often a really good reasons why TBP decides to no longer business with some sites and it's not wise to overlook that.

If you're into extreme lesbian porn than huge strapon lesbian is likely a site that he produced porn for because all the scenes look like his stuff. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-24-14  02:16pm - 3926 days #8
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


1. Very few or no previews.
2. Unknown billing company or billing processors from Cyprus or Eastern Europe.
3. Little to no feedback here at PU and limited reviews from other sites.
4. Bad grammar (I'm not being picky here, just a sign that someone tossed the site together quickly or on the cheap).
5. No signs of any customer support / help or they take you to the join page.


These are the key signs I use as well, also watch out for preview pages that look excessively photoshopped or have familiar images to other sites, this can be a sign that they are lying about what they have. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars.
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03-24-14  03:56pm - 3926 days #9
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Nice thread of bashing a worthless site. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

03-24-14  05:19pm - 3926 days #10
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Dear jberryl69: well.. if something is worth doing, its worth doing good

I'm somewhat afraid of the practical consequences should two more obvious signs be added to Wittyguys list above:

(6.) Sites where the signup process begins with a request for the customers email adress.
(7.) Sites which denies the customer the choice of which among the available billers to use.

In theory this would be easy to spot, but if applied to reality I fear that very few if any sites would remain.

To what degree do you fellow members find this to be acceptable business practice, and what motivates you to reward such sites with high scores when writing reviews?

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