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12-19-20  03:25pm - 1370 days Original Post - #1
Otrivine (0)
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I'm tired of it....

Dear PU Members and staff,

I consider myself rather a porn collector so yes when I subscribe myself to a porn website it is with the intent of downloading the content no matter if it is limited or unlimited download.

I have every respect for people who only subscribe for streaming purposes but lately, I'm aware that a lot of people will laugh in my face, but I feel discriminated because I rather like to download content and if I want to I need to pay extra without prior notification often.

it seems that more and more porn websites are charging extra for downloads. There was a time that I exactly knew these sites and I avoided them but more and more sites are doing this and mostly after initial signup without any notice.

Take for instance Brazzers. I've been many times a subscriber of this site and never had to pay extra for downloads. Last month I took a yearly subscription to find out that downloads are charged extra and not a little bit too???

If this is becoming the general guideline of porn websites I won't subscribe anymore. I'm glad that a number of sites are not doing this (yet) but all this can change in time.

Why not indicate this, as some websites do, a make either a price for streaming only and one for streaming and downloading like for instance AdultTime does??? I can't be that hard and that way people can decide to either signup or not. Last but not least mentioning this would be more customer friendly rather then saying nothing and finding out the surprise once you signed up.

12-19-20  09:54pm - 1370 days #2
LKLK (0)
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Most PU members seem to want downloads included with their memberships.

So I would think they'd agree with you that a site should state clearly if a subscription includes downloads, or if you have to pay extra for it.

For that reason, any site that charges extra for downloads without clearly stating that fact should, when a review is posted at PU, state that downloads are not included in a basic membership.

But my feeling is that most PU members agree with the ideas you've expressed in your comment.

12-21-20  05:26pm - 1368 days #3
pat362 (0)
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Maybe someone from PU/TBP/rabbit can confirm but I believe that if you use one of their links to join Brazzer than you get downloads included with your membership but if you use another sites links then you may not. I know I did when I joined recently but I'm no longer a member. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-08-21  02:30am - 1319 days #4
CowboyDave (0)
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Fully agree. A website without the option of downloads is nothing.
I don't know why websites can't be more upfront about this from the start.
With regard to Brazzers, has anyone else noticed that they no longer have the bonus video library anymore?

02-08-21  04:08am - 1319 days #5
UMBA8 (0)
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I'm in the same camp in that that a porn site without the ability to download videos holds little interest for me.

Due to work and family commitments, I may only have 3 or 4 evenings out of a 30 day subscription where I actually have the opportunity to enjoy the site I'm subscribed to. With that in mind, I've never had a problem paying £20 to £30 for a month, knowing I can download and save a good selection of videos for later use.

There's no way I'd feel like I'm getting my money's worth with streaming only on these subscription porn sites. If that's the way most sites are going, I'd be much more likely to just pay a monthly subscription for the premium content on a well known tube site, knowing the price is more in line with other streaming services I pay for (Netflix etc.), and that'd I'd have access to a greater variety of content whenever I did have a free evening.

02-10-21  01:33pm - 1317 days #6
rearadmiral (0)
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I read elsewhere that Team Skeet has changed it's TOS too. The comment was that when you join a Team Skeet site with a discount (they offer them regularly for $15 and less) that it is streaming only and adding downloads will be an additional $25. I don't know if this only applies to the sale price, but if it does, it takes the cost above the regular price.

I'm all for a site charging what the want and what the market will bear, I just want them to be upfront about it.

02-10-21  06:41pm - 1317 days #7
malikstarks (0)
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Honestly I wouldn't despair too much. I'm of the opinion that porn is not in a position to dictate the terms of the market, simply due to the heavy impact pirating has on the industry, to which there is no parallel. Not to mention the larger role that amateur porn is playing every year. I've actually started seeing paid sites uploading full unedited scenes to Porn Hub and other tube sites in a desperate attempt to draw traffic.

The two companies that have gone down this route are in somewhat unique position to take a gamble like this due to their size, especially Mindgeek, though I'm not so sure how well it has gone for them. If they are succeeding it's because they have huge names like Brazzers and Reality Kings to sell, not many other companies have that luxury.

As for TeamSkeet, they were an also ran that suddenly struck gold by betting early and heavily on the family role-play genre. They are almost certainly now seeing diminishing returns as the formula has been heavily copied (how many POV taboo sites do we need at this point?). I actually look at this as a sign of weakness from them. They failed to capitalize on their success with all the dozens of sites they've since pumped out that haven't exactly hit (the Mylf network, Stayhome POV, PervNana, etc.). Now in an effort to boost profits they are looking to squeeze their subs for a few extra bucks, there's a very good chance it will back-fire. Edited on Feb 10, 2021, 07:30pm

02-12-21  04:15pm - 1315 days #8
malikstarks (0)
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I've started seeing at least one xxx discount site now clearly listing whether or not downloads are included in the membership.

I won't link to it out of respect for TPB but thought it was worth mentioning. It makes sense seeing as the current ambiguity does nothing to benefit them.

One suprising revelation is that apparently MindGeek may have actually REMOVED the download restriction (2nd paywall) from the Mile High Media network. Of course I don't know if that's across the board or just an agreement with that one discount site. It remains in place for Brazzers and RealityKings.

As I mentioned before, I'm not convinced this was ever something that would work out for them except for the sites that are essentially "too big to fail". Edited on Feb 12, 2021, 04:44pm

02-12-21  05:23pm - 1315 days #9
malikstarks (0)
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It looks like the TeamSkeet restriction may in fact not be uniform across all it's sites. Seems like it only applies to the top performing ones like SisLovesMe, DadCrush, DaughterSwap and maybe one or two others. Edited on Feb 12, 2021, 06:53pm

03-08-21  09:55am - 1291 days #10
pornpundit (0)
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The site " ADULT TIME " has really taken it to a new low level. First they ask you to " sign up" at $14.95. you are denied from first party biller then redirected and asked to sign up at $19.95. Well, it's only five bucks more so I do. I get on the site and I'm informed that downloads can only be had at the years rate Of close to one hundred bucks...say what???.
yes, I have written to the webmaster to get my money back and it's only been two days so I'll be patient but can I charge this back! I have also reported this at TBP as an " error " as known of this is mentioned in the review. Hoping they'll assist.
Anyway, anytime an " up sale" within the already paid membership is necessary FOR ANY REASON it should be displayed in VERY BOLD type. It is getting absurd and if the " charged" porn world and all those who report about them can't here the footsteps of " no money needed" porn..well wake up people Pornpundit

03-08-21  09:55am - 1291 days #11
pornpundit (0)
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: Sorry I got an error message and all the duplicates below were created sorrymadThe site " ADULT TIME " has really taken it to a new low level. First they ask you to " sign up" at $14.95. you are denied from first party biller then redirected and asked to sign up at $19.95. Well, it's only five bucks more so I do. I get on the site and I'm informed that downloads can only be had at the years rate Of close to one hundred bucks...say what???.
yes, I have written to the webmaster to get my money back and it's only been two days so I'll be patient but can I charge this back! I have also reported this at TBP as an " error " as known of this is mentioned in the review. Hoping they'll assist.
Anyway, anytime an " up sale" within the already paid membership is necessary FOR ANY REASON it should be displayed in VERY BOLD type. It is getting absurd and if the " charged" porn world and all those who report about them can't here the footsteps of " no money needed" porn..well wake up people Pornpundit Edited on Mar 08, 2021, 10:06am

03-08-21  09:55am - 1291 days #12
pornpundit (0)
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The site " ADULT TIME " has really taken it to a new low level. First they ask you to " sign up" at $14.95. you are denied from first party biller then redirected and asked to sign up at $19.95. Well, it's only five bucks more so I do. I get on the site and I'm informed that downloads can only be had at the years rate Of close to one hundred bucks...say what???.
yes, I have written to the webmaster to get my money back and it's only been two days so I'll be patient but can I charge this back! I have also reported this at TBP as an " error " as known of this is mentioned in the review. Hoping they'll assist.
Anyway, anytime an " up sale" within the already paid membership is necessary FOR ANY REASON it should be displayed in VERY BOLD type. It is getting absurd and if the " charged" porn world and all those who report about them can't here the footsteps of " no money needed" porn..well wake up people Pornpundit

03-08-21  09:55am - 1291 days #13
pornpundit (0)
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Location: brooklyn ct.
The site " ADULT TIME " has really taken it to a new low level. First they ask you to " sign up" at $14.95. you are denied from first party biller then redirected and asked to sign up at $19.95. Well, it's only five bucks more so I do. I get on the site and I'm informed that downloads can only be had at the years rate Of close to one hundred bucks...say what???.
yes, I have written to the webmaster to get my money back and it's only been two days so I'll be patient but can I charge this back! I have also reported this at TBP as an " error " as known of this is mentioned in the review. Hoping they'll assist.
Anyway, anytime an " up sale" within the already paid membership is necessary FOR ANY REASON it should be displayed in VERY BOLD type. It is getting absurd and if the " charged" porn world and all those who report about them can't here the footsteps of " no money needed" porn..well wake up people Pornpundit

03-08-21  09:56am - 1291 days #14
pornpundit (0)
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Posts: 104
Registered: Mar 10, '07
Location: brooklyn ct.
The site " ADULT TIME " has really taken it to a new low level. First they ask you to " sign up" at $14.95. you are denied from first party biller then redirected and asked to sign up at $19.95. Well, it's only five bucks more so I do. I get on the site and I'm informed that downloads can only be had at the years rate Of close to one hundred bucks...say what???.
yes, I have written to the webmaster to get my money back and it's only been two days so I'll be patient but can I charge this back! I have also reported this at TBP as an " error " as known of this is mentioned in the review. Hoping they'll assist.
Anyway, anytime an " up sale" within the already paid membership is necessary FOR ANY REASON it should be displayed in VERY BOLD type. It is getting absurd and if the " charged" porn world and all those who report about them can't here the footsteps of " no money needed" porn..well wake up people Pornpundit

05-14-22  11:38am - 859 days #15
pornpundit (0)
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Location: brooklyn ct.
OMG! Do I agree...PU SHOULD REVIEW THERE POLICIES IMMEDIATELY and let the readers know or it will also be a thing of the past! Pornpundit

05-30-22  02:10am - 843 days #16
pinkerton (0)
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You can bet that if the majority (or all) porn sites move to a streaming-only model with no options for downloads at all, then the software development community will come up with slick tools for capturing and downloading video streams, not that such tools aren't aready available but they're clunky and don't always work.

10-23-22  07:27pm - 697 days #17
PinkPanther (0)
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Video capture software is built into all Windows computers with the current version of Windows. The tools couldn't be any more readily available and I find them to be incredibly easy and reliable.

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