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03-18-10  12:33am - 5394 days #11
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I'm less of a purist when it comes to nudity. If all the naughty parts are uncovered and visible then I consider that all nude.


If it is just clothing pulled aside that is flashing, not nude. ;0)

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03-16-10  10:41am - 5395 days #6
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'For me softcore goes up to explicit full nudity without insertions.
Hardcore starts with sexual intercourse.
Everything in between falls into midcore.'

I think that is a good starting point.

If we could get review sites to adopt something similar, it might be a start! ;0)

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03-16-10  12:36am - 5396 days #4
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


If the non-nudity really bothers you, maybe you can photoshop the clothing/stockings/shoes/whatever out of the picture. Lol.

But if you're dealing with a video, that will be harder to do.


Nah, it is just the claim that nudity is featured when really it isn't. :0(

'Capnudity'? You really oughtn't go there! ;0)

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03-15-10  05:44pm - 5396 days Original Post - #1
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OK...

Time for a rant!

I haven't had one for a while, so it is overdue. ;0)

Why the f... can't folk get a grip on the definition of nudity?

Showing naughty bits with clothing pulled aside is NOT nude.
Wearing stockings or shoes is NOT nude.

Nude means NO CLOTHES!

GEDDIT? :0E

OK Rant done....Feel better now! ;0)

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03-13-10  03:28am - 5399 days #29
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03-11-10  11:39pm - 5400 days #38
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Location: Near the Beer! 		That is EXACTLY what we are trying to get away from by more specific genre labelling, so that we can identify sites that provide what we are looking for more easily.

Many folk that like softcore, do not like toy use.

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03-11-10  04:28pm - 5400 days #12
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Location: Near the Beer! 		Well my definition would be, if it is your main source of income you are a pro.

If it is just a hobby, you are still an amateur, even if it does earn you a little money.

I prefer to see fresh faces, so I like amateur content,even if it is not of the best quality.
Sure I like to see return visit material of models, but I am not really that interested in the ubiquitous big name pros.

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03-11-10  03:35pm - 5400 days #96
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03-11-10  02:52pm - 5400 days #24
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03-11-10  12:09pm - 5400 days #40
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:



The sad thing is in most cases the whys are sad and self esteem, the same reason often why a person goes from soft to hardcore.


I don't quite follow you there, CT.

What is the link you are implying with preferences going harder?

For myself, my preferences always have been & still are for softcore.

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03-11-10  11:58am - 5400 days #92
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Location: Near the Beer! 		I think Pat's coining of the term midcore is excellent.
It covers the middle ground between softcore & hardcore.

For me softcore goes up to explicit full nudity without insertions.
Hardcore starts with sexual intercourse.
Everything in between falls into midcore.

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03-11-10  11:19am - 5400 days #36
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03-04-10  09:03am - 5407 days #2
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Bukkake, as I understand it, refers to the humiliation factor of coming over the girl's face.

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03-02-10  04:47pm - 5409 days #33
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03-02-10  09:17am - 5409 days #3
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A very attentive & efficient webmaster.

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03-01-10  01:43pm - 5410 days #29
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03-01-10  01:41pm - 5410 days #16
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Originally Posted by pornwatcher:


Am I the only one who find a woman with office uniform, not school girl uniform, very attractive? Especially when you couple that with Sarah Palin hairstyle. Not that I agree with her politically.


You are not alone. I quite agree.
I have no idea about the hairstyle though! :0/

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02-28-10  11:38pm - 5411 days #13
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Once again though it doesn't work with milf / mature.

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02-28-10  11:34pm - 5411 days #27
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Softcore should be only in reference to semi-nude or all nude with one or more person but without actual sexual contact involve.

Midcore can be anything involving solo girl masturbation (hand/toys), mild lesbian and I'd add kissing if there is a significant amount of pasion or tonguing.

Hardcore is anything involving penetration whether oral, vaginal or anal. I qualify a BJ as hardcore.

Extreme hardcore is anything involving multiple partners and penetrations whether oral, vaginal or anal. I put a blowbang under this category.


Another useful concise definition.

Thanks, Pat.

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02-28-10  01:17pm - 5411 days #82
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Is this all mainly video or are there some decent photosets?

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02-28-10  12:16pm - 5411 days #80
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Like now, by the sound of it?

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02-28-10  10:28am - 5411 days #78
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02-28-10  10:07am - 5411 days #10
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I really don't like those tacky glam play uniforms! :0(

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02-28-10  02:58am - 5412 days #7
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For me though, they have to be either the real McCoy or at least plausible. I really dislike those glam 'play' uniforms.

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02-28-10  02:26am - 5412 days #5
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I was just trying to pin down where the appeal came from.

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02-28-10  02:18am - 5412 days #20
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Capn, if you got a promotion, why don't you just go ahead and admit it?

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Or is Cap'n some other guy, who just happens to spell his name like yours, except he uses a "'" in his name as a mark of distinction?

Is it Cap'n, or Admiral? Or Capn?

(I'm thinking of nominating myself as Supreme Leader of the Allied Forces, so I will outrank everyone anyway.)


Well, I have tried to be enigmatic about this, but now I shall have to explain.

My occasional use of 'Aye' instead of 'yes' does not come from any nautical pretensions. It derives from a Northern English / Scot dialect.

I am in fact the comic book crime fighting superhero Captain Klutz.
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As Wittyguy pointed out Admiral is an honourary title only.

My correct screen nickname should be Cap'n, but the user name wouldn't accept an apostrophe so I had to go without!

Now please forget I ever said anything about this ;0)

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02-28-10  02:07am - 5412 days #19
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Well, since by definition, softcore can not use real penis, using a sex toy is as far as they could go.


Yes, it is these thresholds I am attempting to define.

Any toy use or masturbation falls into the midcore category. ( Thanks, Pat! ;0) )

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02-28-10  02:05am - 5412 days #18
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I do think that if you are going to label a shoot or video as being softcore than there should not be any penetration of any kind. I agree that a shoot wher ea gril gets herself off using a vibration or dildo may not be on the level of a gang bang but it is still not softcore. It's midcore.


Excellent.

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I love the midcore concept.

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02-28-10  02:02am - 5412 days #17
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Not every site needs to cater to everyone's desires.

How about karupspc for example (only because I have a subscription currently with them), in the most recent 20 photosets, 3 are b/g sets, 1 is a g/g set without toys, 2 are solo with toys, 14 are solo without toys!


I am in full agreement with you.
Smaller sites especially need to specialise to survive.

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Because there is a percentage of porn buyers who like toys.

I still especially like when the girls play around with toys in their mouths! If for nothing else than the sheer absurdity factor!

Or are we just talking about labels here? Because isn't the classic definition of softcore mean "no penetration"? Maybe it's not so much the toy use in softcore that bothers you, but rather toy scenes being labeled softcore?


The latter ;0)

As I said earlier there are some models who will go nude but will not do open leg. I think this is the upper threshold of softcore.

For me, any toy use is entering into Pat's excellent concept of midcore, which probably should include masturbation.

I am not saying I dislike it per se, it is just I am questioning its appearance in what is otherwise a softcore item.

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02-27-10  04:25pm - 5412 days #74
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I appreciate that.

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It makes me feel uncomfortable if the model is young.
On a milf/mature it looks a bit sad.

Why are they used so often?

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02-27-10  03:38pm - 5412 days #7
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Location: Near the Beer! 		You can have coy & explicit full nudity in softcore, to me as soon as the toys come out though, that is stretching softcore too far.

Actually, even explicit full nudity stretches the softcore tag really, as there are quite a few models who won't do open leg shots.

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To my mind, toys have no place in softcore, yet they are still almost omnipresent! For softcore I don't mind a little groping and feeling, but I do like it to be toy free.

As I see it it is only half a step away from sybians & other fucking machines. I think dildos belong with them rather than softcore.

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I'm probably going to catch flak for this, but it needs to be said -

Yes, Denner, it sucks what actions the site owner has taken. But, seriously, you could work on being just a little more tactful in the presentation of your reviews and comments. Many things I read from you, you do come off as being pissed off, angry, demanding, insulting, unreasonable.


Instead of writing:
"Right, bro - but this site - you won't believe it (and then again, oh, you would) - they got full screen transparent watermarks in the videos!
Comming up 4-5 times during a clip and lasts maybe 10 secs - and, of course during the best parts - and the photos: worse than useless - some just like screen caps - but then again - it's the same guy who has those two other low quality thai sites..."


Could instead write:
"The site's videos have a full screen watermark throughout the video which can get in the way of enjoying the video, hopefully the site owner will consider removing this. The photosets also appear to be screen caps of the video."


The same important information gets across, but in a much nicer tone.


A lot of other reviewers too, I just have to shake my head in disappointment. Whenever someone factors the time it took him to do a site rip into score... or if the download speed drops low for even one day (bandwidth is a *shared* resource, is not infinite, and costs a shit-ton on the hosting end of things)... or a review of (50) site no longer updates - okay, how about instead describing what archive content *is* inside and scoring that? But one big important thing is to drop the assumption that pornographers are all highly tech savvy people. Surprisingly many of them are not, and many actually really are trying to put out the best product they are capable of.


*sigh*


But I mean, for Christ's sake, even this thread goes into the subject of hiring a lawyer and suing this guy over canceling a membership...


Oh, and if anyone else is worried about the topic of this thread - randomize your username/password so a site owner can't match it up.


Not really putting up flak as such, but do remember
English is not Denner's first language. ;0)

Not trying to make excuses, but this is a limited medium for communication at the best of times. :0)

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Location: Near the Beer! 		Thanks for the link, Pat.

Is it me or has Kate Moss suddenly got curves?
She looks quite sexy there.

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Location: Near the Beer! 		I would be tempted to ask Epoch for a refund.
They would charge it back to the webmaster anyway.

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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


At age 50? That's even funnier!


Ditto at 52!!

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Location: Near the Beer! 		I did, but I thought better of making comment.

The response might contain more graphic detail than I wish to know!

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Location: Near the Beer! 		Understandable, & I agree with you, Simon.

Kudos for speaking out against it!

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02-20-10  02:27am - 5420 days #88
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These things have to be done. ;0)

Whilst I am here though, some additional on topic info.
For striptease fans I have some good news, especially if you also like the natural look below decks.
There should be regular on topic material appearing on WeAreHairy fairly shortly.
Give them a few weeks to get the new material through, then take a look. ;0)

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Originally Posted by Drooler:


I knew I was missing something! And let's not forget to throw in that Steve Miller classic, "Fly Like a Turkey."


That reminds me of a rather bizarre but true anecdote.

A company I used to work for, gave all employees a Turkey for Christmas.
We were given a token & we had to go down to the butcher & collect it.
One year ours was a particularly large one & it wouldn't fit in the oven.
In frustration my wife opened the kitchen door and threw it down the garden path. As it bounced down the path, she said.
'I bet you thought you'd never fly again!'

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Location: Near the Beer! 		I took a look & posted a comment to which you gave an encouraging reply.

I shall take a closer look at your work! ;0)

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Location: Near the Beer! 		I quite agree & hope that some noobs will be forthcoming with their views.

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Location: Near the Beer! 		As another fake boob thread was rejuvenated, I thought I would do the same for this one, for newcomers. ;0)

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Location: Near the Beer! 		Exactly right on the first point, D.

There has to be a style within a niche to be distinctive.
Then you have a site which stands out.

Don't really agree on the second part.
If you lose your focus you lose your identity.
Then you get lost in the mainstream maelstrom.

Look at it this way.
The big boys have a huge budget.
They can barrage the market with a howitzer.
Some of it will miss but enough will be successful.

Small outfit.
Well, they have to count their bullets.
They have to be accurate to survive.
They have to pick out their target with a sniper rifle. ;0)

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02-17-10  02:14pm - 5422 days #4
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Location: Near the Beer! 		Well, at least give it a few weeks.
I have been having extended correspondence with the webmaster and he seems keen to follow most of my suggestions, as they seem to fall in with his preferences.

Just hang in there a while. ;0)

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