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02-14-21  08:42am - 1407 days #2
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I will typicaaly acess mobile only occassionally to check for updates to sites when not at home.

02-12-21  05:23pm - 1409 days #9
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It looks like the TeamSkeet restriction may in fact not be uniform across all it's sites. Seems like it only applies to the top performing ones like SisLovesMe, DadCrush, DaughterSwap and maybe one or two others. Edited on Feb 12, 2021, 06:53pm

02-12-21  04:15pm - 1409 days #8
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I've started seeing at least one xxx discount site now clearly listing whether or not downloads are included in the membership.

I won't link to it out of respect for TPB but thought it was worth mentioning. It makes sense seeing as the current ambiguity does nothing to benefit them.

One suprising revelation is that apparently MindGeek may have actually REMOVED the download restriction (2nd paywall) from the Mile High Media network. Of course I don't know if that's across the board or just an agreement with that one discount site. It remains in place for Brazzers and RealityKings.

As I mentioned before, I'm not convinced this was ever something that would work out for them except for the sites that are essentially "too big to fail". Edited on Feb 12, 2021, 04:44pm

02-10-21  06:41pm - 1411 days #7
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Honestly I wouldn't despair too much. I'm of the opinion that porn is not in a position to dictate the terms of the market, simply due to the heavy impact pirating has on the industry, to which there is no parallel. Not to mention the larger role that amateur porn is playing every year. I've actually started seeing paid sites uploading full unedited scenes to Porn Hub and other tube sites in a desperate attempt to draw traffic.

The two companies that have gone down this route are in somewhat unique position to take a gamble like this due to their size, especially Mindgeek, though I'm not so sure how well it has gone for them. If they are succeeding it's because they have huge names like Brazzers and Reality Kings to sell, not many other companies have that luxury.

As for TeamSkeet, they were an also ran that suddenly struck gold by betting early and heavily on the family role-play genre. They are almost certainly now seeing diminishing returns as the formula has been heavily copied (how many POV taboo sites do we need at this point?). I actually look at this as a sign of weakness from them. They failed to capitalize on their success with all the dozens of sites they've since pumped out that haven't exactly hit (the Mylf network, Stayhome POV, PervNana, etc.). Now in an effort to boost profits they are looking to squeeze their subs for a few extra bucks, there's a very good chance it will back-fire. Edited on Feb 10, 2021, 07:30pm

08-07-20  09:52pm - 1598 days #10
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Yeah and some say that is a conservative estimate. Pretty much everything in the U.S has to politicized, even the wearing of cheap one dollar mask that would save lives save the economy and jobs.To quote the Donald: "It is what it is" at this point.

08-07-20  02:49pm - 1598 days #7
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North of the border you guys have the virus under control. Here a lot of folks are moving out of the cities and buying homes in the contryside do to the unrest.

As for memberships I only have one myself, Newsensations for $7.95 recurring I just went back to yesterday.

06-27-20  05:05pm - 1639 days #5
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They recently changed course and now allow discounts through Epoch. I just signed up using idealgasm last month for $14.95. Edited on Jun 27, 2020, 05:11pm

11-30-19  11:29am - 1849 days #10
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They've changed there pricing.

11-29-19  11:32pm - 1850 days #9
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Also just realized that $19.95 a month is STREAM ONLY. They are desperately trying to settle on a price point that works for them.

11-28-19  08:33pm - 1851 days #8
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I suspect their business model is heavily dependent on getting existing members not to cancel, more than the usual, and I'm not sure they are doing all that well, could be wrong. Edited on Nov 30, 2019, 11:27am

11-28-19  08:27pm - 1851 days #7
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I've been meaning to write a review of Adult Time for a while now but something always comes up. I like the fact that PT and GW are now under the same banner but a lot of the rest of the content leaves a lot to be desired. Most of the rest is old and getting older every day as the sites they were taken from are more or less dead now. The rest is mostly 21Sextury Euro stuff and it's okay but they are not the powerhouse they used to be.


I think it was conceived as a way to combine their dead/struggling sites with the more successful ones to provide a greater value.

But I'm with you, I can take it or leave it for most of the stuff there. I love the Nuru Stuff and some of the stuff from Devil's film and that's pretty much it.

Much of the content that is really driving the site is either Euro stuff or a whole lot of what I classify as "artsy porn", which I'm not a fan of.

09-28-19  07:32am - 1913 days #14
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I actually have slight preferences in favor of tattoos on a woman, it just adds a little something extra.

I haven't given it a lot of thought but Melissa Lynn, Kleo Valentein, Anna Bell Peaks, Tana Lea just to name a few.

One frustrating thing is that it's obvious that some of my favorite models get passed over for a lot of work due to excessive tatoos.

Melissa Lynn for instance, would probably be a top 3 MILF in terms of scene count but not for her tatoos imo. It's like i'd almost rather trade in her tats to see her in more scenes

07-03-19  06:16pm - 1999 days #3
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Nice to know, I'm going to look into that myself.

01-02-17  04:13pm - 2911 days #30
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Originally Posted by Colm4:


I use AVS Video converter. They also have an editor, but I have to convert most downloads so they play on my media player.
Very easy to use. Can even edit out a single second if I want to.

It's a pay program, but you get a lifetime 'membership' to all their products and updates for that.


Hmm, well I only have a handful of vids I wish to edit, but I'll look into it nonetheless, thanks.

12-28-16  10:39pm - 2916 days #18
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Originally Posted by pat362:


1-Just because someone is part of the 11% paying for it doesn't mean that he isn't above re-selling the material he legally paid for by uploading it on sites where you get credits for doing that.

2-In this instance the site in question did not nickel and dime the OP because he had all the tools at his disposal and did not use them. They would have either saved him some hard earned cash or serious annoyance.

3-These days you can get access to most porn sites for a fraction of the cost these same sites would have charged just a few years ago. Although I would be thrilled to believe that they do this because business is amazing but sadly I think that they do it because they would rather make significantly less money than to make none and go out of business.


Good Points, I am sympathetic to the plight of porn producers and performers these days. In fact I made a thread about piracy a few years back. I will say though that I still think this practice by DP is a little shady at least on the surface. I'd say most of the members that sign up don't know much about porn review sites in general. Not to mention someone still had to get burned in order to post an accurate review in the first place. That said maybe I should read the T&C or at least see how the site advertises before I totally condemn it.

12-27-16  08:39pm - 2917 days #16
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What program do you use to edit movies Colm4?

12-27-16  08:37pm - 2917 days #15
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I never knew of this practice by DP, sounds ridiculous, good thing i know now as I was actually considering a membership at one point.

You know it's estimated that only 11% of porn consumers actually pay for their content. Considering this, you'd think these companies would be bending over backward to please the paying customers instead of nickle-and-diming (and sometimes worse).

08-19-16  08:14pm - 3047 days #9
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I remember getting hit up by ransomware a few years back. I didn't pay the ransom (I ended up using a tool called Norton Power Eraser to get rid of the virus) but I ended up losing all of my text based and picture files (videos were fine).

I've never been a victim of ID theft luckily. I have recently been paying about 9 bucks a month for Lifelock for what it's worth.

08-18-15  07:51pm - 3414 days #4
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Try this link, only $10.00

http://enter.brazzersnetwork.com/signup/...s;380661:SMP_995:bzn,0,0,0,0&step=2&qualify=1

Good luck

08-13-15  04:12pm - 3419 days #5
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You've been great Khan. Wish you the best man.

05-20-15  05:59pm - 3504 days #3
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Wish him the best.

05-19-15  01:23pm - 3505 days #10
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I have never had a problem with Brazzers. They use an in house biller but I've never had an issue cancelling in the past.

Thing is though its one site I keep a membership to as it is pretty easy to find it for $10 a month anyway. I can't justify cancelling it at that price for what you get.

Nonetheless, it appears Brazzers use Epoch as their secondary biller as well, so the trick I mentioned for Bangbros should also apply. Edited on May 19, 2015, 01:33pm

05-17-15  11:27am - 3507 days #6
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Originally Posted by Marcus:


Good post malikstarks, it's hard to disagree with you. At the back of my mind I was remembering all the other sites that have been delisted by TBP/PU for reasons less than this. However it still sits uncomfortably with me to see so many TBU/PU members getting ripped off.


I hear ya, in fact I think I remember getting burned from Bangbros myself like maybe 7-8 years ago (yes these issues go that far back). That was before I even knew about this site (it may have helped).

I'm not sure I even remember the details but I think I remember just cancelling my card.

It's ironic because their content is amongst the most easily available to be pirated which is what I simply do if I want a scene (or pic set) from them.

05-16-15  01:07pm - 3508 days #3
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In fact TBP's facts page on Bangbros enabled me to see that they use Epoch as their secondary biller, which is as safe as it gets. I'd rather that information be there which it probably wouldn't be if they stopped doing business, and it most certainly would not be updated if anything changed.

I now plan on making my own comment showing users how to use the secondary biller.

I guess my conclusion now is that it probably helps users to keep the site listed with all it's dirty laundry, rather than to completely remove it, and be left in the dark as to what exactly it is they need to look out for. Edited on May 16, 2015, 02:24pm

05-16-15  12:24pm - 3508 days #2
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I think TBP should definetly take a look at it, but I don't want to go so far as to declare they should "stop doing busineness". I know that Bangbros is one of the largest sites out there so TPB may be making a good amount off referrals and such.

At the same time, just because a site is listed on TBP doesn't mean that it is inherently safe. That isnt a claim put forward by TBP so it may be unfair to hold them to it. Even if TBP delisted them, they would still be listed on many other sites, even bigger ones like Freeones for example (In fact Freeones even offers a 50% discount).

TBP is better than any other site like this in putting clear disclaimers in terms of billing, and of course, just as importantly, providing a site for user reviews and comments to be prominently displayed.

Bottom line is that TBP is meant for user's to be able to do their homework before spending their money. I'm not saying your wrong, I'm saying who are we to hold them to higher standard than any other review site, especially when they are ALREADY providing a higher standard in terms of information disclosed.

And yes, I'm aware that TBP has basically de-listed other sites in the past, but we don't always know the reasoning behind it. Those could be instances of problems on the business to business side of things as well. I know that sounds callous but their job is to inform consumers, not necassarily to protect them, that's way too big a job for any one site. Edited on May 16, 2015, 02:29pm

01-29-12  08:21pm - 4711 days #30
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Originally Posted by pat362:


^I'll have to disagree with you because 40 somethig mag is also one of those sites that doesn't allow it's paying members the option of downloading their entire library. I know because that's the site that shafted me. I think you should also take a look at TBP's review of scoreland and you'll see that TBP claims that the site no longer allows the complete download of the videos.

I wish it was otherwise because there were a couple of sites that interested me but once burn twice cautious and that's why I will never join any of their sites. I just don't have 20$ to throw away on a dishonest site.


Sorry to hear about your experience. However there is a comment by a pornuser named bubbagump just a couple of days ago that confirms what I'm saying. He stated that while he was able to download videos, his complaint that he could not download vids in HD. I told him HD downloads were segragated to Score HD.

I can't confirm the practices on 40 something mag, so you may well be right. I have been a member of the site as well a few times and was able to download; things may have changed.

If I ever go back to any of their sites I'll remember to give you a heads up.

01-27-12  07:38pm - 4713 days #28
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I'll second his statement but only in regards to his sites and that's because they made a business decision in 2011 where their paying members can now only download a very small portion of their library and there is a time limit as to how long that content is available. The bulk of their content can only be streamed now. I know because I joined one of their sites and discovered that the change had been done a short time after TBP had done a review.

The owner can give whatever excuse he wants to justify his decision but he loses credibility when I don't see the mention of the changes in regards to videos anywhere on that site or any of the other within the score group. He'll go out of business because guys like me will never join any of his sites and I'll stear everybody away from those money traps.


I understand the sentiment pat, but the streaming only option is true for only a couple of Score group sites, namely 50plusmilfs and 60plusmilfs. All the other sites allow unlimited and unrestricted downloads. Although HD videos are segregated to ScoreHD. I was a member of both Scoreland, and ScoreHD a few months back to verify this.

01-27-12  05:41pm - 4713 days #25
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Originally Posted by anyonebutme:


99% of the American public has no knowledge of SOPA. 99% of the American public would not see their lives change one bit with the passage of SOPA.

Whatever you want to make of the proposed law, I think a little perspective is good when judging what "public outcry" is. Personally, I have zero sympathy left for those people who continue to lie to themselves and to others to justify their support of piracy.


I'm no expert on the subject, and am certainly not pro-piracy. However, the view that it would not change peoples lives is not shared by a large amount of folks familiar with the legislation. Many believe that the law would radically alter and restrict the way the internet works; and would open a whole host of legitimate sites and businesses to potential liability.

Just one quote (lifted from wikipedia):
Gary Shapiro, CEO of the Consumer Electronics Association, spoke out strongly against the bill, stating, "The bill attempts a radical restructuring of the laws governing the Internet," and that "It would undo the legal safe harbors that have allowed a world-leading Internet industry to flourish over the last decade. It would expose legitimate American businesses and innovators to broad and open-ended liability. The result will be more lawsuits, decreased venture capital investment, and fewer new jobs

And certainly there was enough of an outcry from legitimate sources to effectively shelve the legislation for now.

Perhaps it can be re-written to create fewer unintended consequences, but again, I'm no expert. Edited on Jan 27, 2012, 05:47pm

01-27-12  03:08pm - 4713 days #22
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I created a thread a little over a year ago entitled "No adult Industry in two years"...in which the head of the SCORE Group essentially predicted "If content theft is not stemmed, there will be no SCORELAND and no Adult Industry within two years."

It was derided by a few, but I think we can all agree that the industry since than has severely receded and is moving toward having: a handful of powerful megasites (e.g. Brazzers); a vast wasteland of dead and dying pay sites; and a near infite network of tube sites, file-sharing blogs, forums etc.

The problem the business of free porn is an industry unto itself and is far more profitable than the legit businesses that it leaches from.

Despite the setback of Megaupload and filesonic file hosting sites are hardly going anywhere. For one thing most of the filesharing forums are currently dominated by a site called Oron, based out of Russia, and will likely not be as easily intimidated as filesonic was. There are simply so many of these sites that they can easily be replaced in terms of popular use without some overarching law to curtail them.

I do think if something like SOPA ever passed it could be the silver bullet that got the industry going again. However public outcry against that law has been so loud I'm not sure it will ever pass (not sure I'd want it to either). Edited on Jan 27, 2012, 05:21pm

08-25-11  10:30am - 4868 days #8
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You Should just visit Freeones.com and search under Jennifer white.

08-21-11  09:33pm - 4872 days #17
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I just saw an advertisement for a new NBC drama (starts 10/09) called "The Playboy Club".

http://www.nbc.com/the-playboy-club/

08-17-11  11:33am - 4876 days #7
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


I often wonder the same things when I see porn DVDs in shops selling for $40. My thought is that there is no way that I'd spend more than a month's subscription fee on one low-budget DVD, but someone has to be buying them.


All of the Adult stores here in the Orlando Area are still open (about 4 or 5), and most sell primarily DVD's. I figure there is still are market for about three types:

1. Guys who are two poor (or old school) to own a computer with an internet connection. Believe it or not about 40% of Americans do not have internet access, so that is still quite a bit.

2. Guys WITH internet access, but who must hide their porn viewing from their spouse, and therefore may not use the computer as their primary viewing method. They can watch the DVD when their wife or girlfriend is not home, and then hide it.

3. Couples

08-17-11  11:11am - 4876 days #6
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First off, yes Playboy has a pretty decent set of sites from what I have seen (never subscribed). However I think that misses the point.

Playboy is as much about selling sex as they are about selling the wealthy, fantasy, "playboy lifestyle":

* The mansion, with huge celebrity parties.
* The chain of playboy clubs, with "Bunnies" serving cocktails to elite clientele.
* And of course, the "Playmates".

It was never really about selling "smut" to hardcore collectors like us. Yes, they dabble in a bit of that (and why wouldn't they) but they have ALWAYS held guys like us at arms length. I think most people don't even consider playboy to be porn really.

Playboy is probably the only porn mag in which the average guy on the street wouldn't freak out if saw his daughter inside, and some guys would be proud of it.

TV subscriptions like the one you describe aren't really meant for guys like us (unless the internet connection is down maybe). They appeal to:

1. Couples -particularly high end couples whose husband has bought the trophy wife fake boobs (and fantasizes that she could have been a playmate).

2. Business execs who are traveling and (for a number of different reasons) don't want to go all out and pay for an escort. Edited on Aug 17, 2011, 11:19am

07-20-11  07:57pm - 4904 days #6
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I've been a member at Mature.nl many years ago. Very good quality, even then, but yes very expensive, about $50 last time I checked. Really you'd have to look at your budget and make a decision.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I don't think there is a site that you don't already know of.

Hopefully the new piracy rules being established:
http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/2076021/new_piracy_warning_system_being_developed/

will create an environment where new startups can thrive again.

07-20-11  07:31pm - 4904 days #9
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YES!!!! Rearadmiral, please see my comment on Devils Film (Same network and biller) Titled: fraudulent billing practices! The same exact thing happened to me.

It seems to be somewhat infrequent and unpredictable as well. A couple months ago I resubscribed to Devils Film after the first incident and while nothing happened initially (thought it was a fluke), two days ago I recieved a very suspiscous charge on my bank listed as MYPPHELP.com for $11.32.

After looking into it was for a site I'd never heard of called wildpass.com. Trying to contact the biller went nowhere and I had to cancel my card.

I'm becoming convinced that Fame Digital is either knowingly ripping off customer's or have lax security allowing peoples card information to be stolen.

Either way I'm staying away for good next time or will get a virtual card.

Rearadmiral I'd strongly suggest cancelling the card and getting a new one as there are liable to be little charges that will pop up.

I think TPB should possibly cease it's business with this company. Edited on Jul 20, 2011, 07:43pm

05-24-11  10:08pm - 4961 days #19
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Just now I had a major scare with a malware virus that also tried to shut my computer down. I'd bet it's the same one you dealt with but it has evolved since the last time I dealt with it. Now it seems to be imitating a very believable version of the Microsoft Security Center.

Unfortunately my Norton Power Eraser was not up to date and the virus blocked the needed update for it to run. I had download it on my laptop and transfer it with a thumb drive.

However again, once that program gets going it's a beast. Totally wiped the malware off the computer.

As far as AVG, I wouldn't blame it too much. The type of Malware that is being run here will get past virtually anything.

Really I'd bet the AVG actually detected it, much like my anti- virus software did. It just didn't have the chance to eliminate it because of the suppression that the malware uses.

Not to belabor the point but I'd just get Microsoft Security Essentials, it's free and rated just as highly as AVG, Norton, etc. It's VERY NON-INVASIVE, unlike Norton(I only use the Power Eraser program) and has worked very well for me. Edited on May 24, 2011, 10:23pm

05-23-11  01:33pm - 4962 days #16
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Norton Power Eraser. It's specifically designed for emergency situations like that where nothing else will run. It will wipe out virtually anything. Plus it's free.

Then add Microsoft Security Essentials, which is also free. Edited on May 23, 2011, 01:39pm

03-01-11  11:09pm - 5045 days #5
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I guess you mean young adult with a slightly amateur feel. There should be plenty to choose from although it's not really my taste.

Off the top of my head I'd say to try some of the Mofos network sites, they seem to have that same feel to them. (Even if they may not genuine "amateurs" )

02-21-11  05:13pm - 5053 days #5
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Originally Posted by pinkerton:


The reason for my original post was that this pirated material does seem to be dsitributed illegally seemingly with the tacit consent of the pay-sites. After all, very little of the content is taken down and it can't be too difficult for pay sites to track the posts on these forums and file-hosting sites.


Overall, when it comes to piracy the industry's concerns are in this order:
1. Tube Sites
2. Torrents
3. File hosts

They are definitely concerned about the file hosting sites, but not nearly to the degree of the first two.

Mainly because from a numbers standpoint, the first two are having a far greater impact, and there are limited resources to combat the overall problem.

Also a lot of it is taken down, depending on the adult site involved and the resources they have available.

Many of the biggest sites I'm sure don't feel threatened as much by file hosts due to the large base of paying customers they can draw from.

Also a number of the biggest sites have deals worked out with most of the biggest file sharing forums to have their content banned from being posted. All of the major file sharing forums have a pretty lengthy list found under their "rules" section.

The more moderately sized sites are the ones you will often see taken down. They can't afford to just look the other way, and they do have some resources to combat the problem. One example of this is facial abuse. If you do a search for Facialabuse on just about any forum or blog all of the links will be blank. It's virtually a guarantee.

Just a week ago I saw a complete site rip on facialabuse with all the links still active. THE VERY NEXT DAY it was taken down. Edited on Mar 09, 2011, 12:12pm

02-21-11  11:19am - 5053 days #2
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I don't think this is the case. If so you would at a minimum see numerous adult site ads and pop-ups when visiting these sites.

On a side note, the site the file-hosting site hotfile has just recently been effectively shut down for pirated porn. Seems as though they caved to legal pressure from the porn industry after briefly becoming the #1 file-hosting site (for porn anyway). Now they have taken the drastic step of suspending the accounts of suspected pirates and they are serious about.

11-27-10  06:43pm - 5139 days #29
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Originally Posted by gonzooprano:


Thank you for you input and I will pass along your intrigue to my partner.
Anton Fury has probably shot most of the old school big boob models you speak of over the last 7 years as editor of Gent Magazine.

We are working on getting those sites ready for a look from the staff here.

As Im a new user here but as Kahn will tell you Ive been around a long time - I dont know how to drive this system.

Can you point me to which facts you would like to have updated?
I will endeavor to do my best.



The facts detailing the number of pics, vids etc. on a site. for instance this page:

https://www.thebestporn.com/review/cleavagekittens/

Most sites will show some fairly detailed information here (take some time to compare). Obviously you don't have to do this. It's your perogative, but I think the layout of your intro page leaves a lot of questions.

No offense, but for the experienced porn user your intro layout is similar to alot of generic/clone sites. To be honest I think I've passed on some of yours before because of this. Funny thing is upon closer inspection it looks as though even though your content is taken from a number of different places, you still seem to have some very-and rare-content.

It would just be a good to know how much of that content is available for the price, also I may have missed it but I don't know if you provide network access, etc. All these things could be included in the site facts. Edited on Nov 27, 2010, 06:59pm

11-26-10  03:12am - 5141 days #27
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Originally Posted by gonzooprano:


Where were these teachers when I was going to high school?


Hey gonzooprano I'm somewhat intrigued by the look of some of the sites you have. It's hard finding pix of some those old school big boob models. It would be nice if some of the site facts on TBP were updated a bit.

11-16-10  06:31pm - 5150 days #21
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I just saw one performer Jessica Lynn perform in two separate films:

1. Before I'm 21.
2. Cougar High (as a "cougar" high school teacher.)

11-14-10  08:02pm - 5152 days #10
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They do have somewhat of a breakdown here Rearadmiral, check out the bottom of this page for pixandvideo:

http://t4.pixandvideo.com/freetour/index/1/#CONTENT

It shows what you get month 1, 2, 3.

Some of the sites tour pages seem to have the breakdown and some don't. If you search around a bit and find one with a package you can live with then your good to go.

11-14-10  12:21pm - 5152 days #2
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I'm currently a member for the $9.95 price. They haven't changed the pricing model at all from anything I've seen.

From my experience it can be a bit of a crapshoot as far as the sites you gain access to. I think the key is to just join the main site that you access to directly you still get access to the network but may just have to wait for the one or two other sites you want.

Me personally I joined for nudefightclub and ended up gaining access to the other sites I wanted anyway (mainly footsiebabes).

Good luck on your decision.

11-12-10  12:17pm - 5154 days #20
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Now to think of it, I actually think you all should check out foot/leg fetish sites like Leg Sex and Hot Legs and Feet.

Even though these sites might not seem to fit the description, foot fetish and lingerie fetish sites are very much related. For now, if your going to find anything close to the purified version your looking for it may be there.

The only issue is if you don't have a leg fetish it may not work out. (Actually for this reason it probably won't, but I'll you decide that)

Leg Sex for instance has a DVD that is focused almost exclusively on this type of thing, here's the trailer:

http://www.eboobstore.com/product/sku/PIX372D

Hot legs and feet also has plenty of lingerie type sets, last I was there it seemed like roughly half the website.

The only downside to Legsex is that It appears to be no longer updating, it looks like it on first glance, but they are really just recycling old updates.

I did say I dislike lingerie, maybe "dislike" is too harsh a word. I don't mind the tease factor from time to time, but it needs to all come off by the end of the set/video, at least for me. Edited on Nov 12, 2010, 12:25pm

11-09-10  08:56pm - 5157 days #12
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Hang in there Messmer, although I definetely would recommend taking a break (if possible). Porn + Sexual Drive + obsessive quest = Loss of lots of money and time.

I hate to break it to you guys but the site that you are looking for doesn't exist, at least not the purified verison your searching for. Not yet anyhow.

On the bright side I think that if the big time porn producers can find their way through the current maelstrom of piracy and the economic downturn, the next evolution for porn will likely have plenty of the sites your looking for. How you may ask?

I've said on numerous occasions that the next evolution for porn is niche and fetish. I'm aware there is plenty of niche/fetish content out there now, but it doesn't have the muscle behind it of the big time mainstream sites. This is also a reason these big name sites are struggling.

I kind of see it as a self sustaining downward spiral. Currently most of the big time producers go after the same type of mainstream casual consumer. Unfortunately for them those consumers have so many options in the mainstream category (including piracay) that it has caused many of said big name companies to fold (or will fold) partly due to over saturation.

However instead of diversifying most said porn producers have been afraid to take risks due to the current environment (piracy/economy). Leading to still further losses.

I think if they are are able to navigate the current environment, producers will realize that there too many hats in the same teen/milf/silicone boob ring and more will decide to diversify a bit.

As a recent example I have mentioned 50plusmilfs, which believe it or not is a VERY unique site. It doesn't appear to be THAT different on the face of it. Just North American mature models doing the same hardcore found on other sites.

But that's exactly what makes the site unique. There isn't another site with the high production values of a big name site that focuses on 50+ women exclusively. Most sites either feature "milfs", or if they are true mature's they are Euro-based (this makes a big difference believe it or not.)

That site has been a huge success for Score and for a long time had been their top selling site, surprisingly.

I believe this is a trend that will continue, but we aren't there yet. The guys with the big money have to make through to the other side first. Edited on Nov 09, 2010, 09:03pm

10-16-10  09:57pm - 5181 days #8
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This brings to mind what Brazzers did with their spinoff site Mofos.com. At first they launched Mofos as kind of a smorgasbord of various sites almost with a feel similar to Bangbros.

When that failed miserably, they decided to latch onto the amateur wave and re-launched the network (I remember seeing on the Brazzers forum when they were promoting the relaunch). They added few new sites (while changing the feel of existing ones). Now the sites are characterized as follows:

Real Slut Parties:
"Wanna see the most mind blowing college sex parties from across the country? It's the real deal, all caught on video and submitted by you! Insane college craziness, pussy packed house parties, holiday orgies etc...."

Pervs on Patrol:
"A while back, this beautiful girl who lived next door use to always undress with her window opened. This girl had no fucking clue that I was jerking off over her from across the yard. One day I decided to grab my dad's camera and start filming her etc....

I know that Girl:
Every single gorgeous girl you see on this site is 100% Real! They are all part of the biggest user submitted, amateur video site in the world...IKnowThatGirl.com!...etc.

It should be noted that absolutely none of these girls are amateurs, as anyone who has visited the other mainstream North American sites (bangbros, RK etc.) can attest.

Nonetheless the strategy seems to have paid off for them from what I gather. It's important to keep in mind that there is a significant contingent of "average joe" porn viewers that are basically looking for porn with an "amateur feel" (i.e. girls without huge fake boobs). Which is what these sites cater to.

Most of these guys aren't sophisticated enough to realize that-with few exceptions- these are just pornstars all the same. Just minus the fake boobs and shot with bad camerawork in order to create the illusion. Edited on Oct 16, 2010, 10:04pm

10-05-10  12:02pm - 5192 days #9
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I actually have a membership to this site now, it was so cheap at the $9.95 price I couldn't pass it up. However I've already canceled.

Their stuff is a bit too over the top and they never seem to get the fundamentals right (like good camera-work). They also seem to fancy themselves as big-shot directors. So much so that the directors faces are plastered all over the site.

To me even in the 90's these guys were overrated-save for a few of the old Buttman movies. Extreme Associates owned these guys back then, wish they were still putting out quality stuff.

10-03-10  10:41am - 5194 days #44
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I think I should clarify as a member at Scoreland, that they have not gone all streaming, at least not yet. Rather the quote in the original post was in regard to their newest big time model Valerie Irene, which they have chosen to allow streaming only vids. They still are putting out down-loadable vids, at least for now.

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