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08-05-11  12:29am - 4889 days #8
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I'm finding the same thing already listed.

Wanted to throw in one here though. I don't remember which it was that liked Tanner Mayes so much, was thinking it was ReadAdmiral, after hearing a lot about her retiring, I just got a new scene of her on Naughty America. Completely new look than I've seen from her. Looks to have put about 10 pounds on, hair is now a light red, no anal in the scene, but wanted to mention the new scene. I was really into her scenes when she first came out, but got bored of her after awhile. This new look though has caught my attention again. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

08-02-11  07:19pm - 4891 days #4
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Got it solved. The card company said the problem was with Epoch. Which I expected them to say. They removed the charges. I also was shocked by the Epoch comment about not accepting new members. It makes you wonder if Epoch's customer service knows who they're billing for. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

08-02-11  03:16am - 4892 days #2
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Updating this. Epoch of course blamed Reality Kings or my card company. Had to love this answer, "Maybe the site is not accepting new members?"

They said the charges should go off my card that they are only being listed as pending charges. Now it's off to call the card company. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

08-02-11  02:10am - 4892 days Original Post - #1
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I can say I've not had hardly any problems with any billing processors over the years, until now.

Went to join Reality Kings, signed up, put in my payment info and chose to signup through Epoch instead of SBW. I hit submit and received an "Invalid cvv2 code" message. I re-entered the code and tried again, invalid message again. Done it a third time since for whatever reason, Epoch now puts dots instead of your numbers on the cvv2 part. So I accepted that maybe I put the wrong numbers in.

No membership. And was charged three times. So the code was not wrong or obviously they couldn't have charged it. Just a warning if you see the invalid code, don't try it a second time or in my case or a third time. I've sent Epoch an email and am waiting on their response.

*Edit* Just tried their live chat and the damn server is down. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk Edited on Aug 02, 2011, 02:16am

07-13-11  05:24pm - 4911 days #15
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This site is a real bitch to find info on. Most Google searches bring up tube or torrent sites with their content pirated on those.

On the payment processor: It says on the processor's homepage, commerce gate (dot com), that they won best billing processor of 2011 from the XBiz awards, but I cannot find any information on that. Doing Google searches for Commerce Gate Best Billing Processor brings up their page that says it then a bunch that says CCBill won. The processors page is in English as is Cum Louder's terms and conditions. Which is still contradictory to have your site name in English, your terms and conditions in English, but your site in Spanish.

What I do see is that this is a network that focuses on asses. They even have one site named Culos en Publico, which in English means Asses in Public, a very good exhibitionist site Brazzers has, but stopped updating a few years ago. Looking at the sites in the Cum Louder network is like looking at an alter ego of Brazzers. Where Brazzers focuses on boobs, Cum Louder focuses on asses.

I could be wrong, but there are plenty of reasons to believe it is the same company.

One thing I can tell you Denner is that you're right about the price. From what I can see none of the sites in this network have over 100 scenes, with most being below 50 and I still don't know if the site even offers downloads. I will give it a shot over the weekend, still have two current memberships going right now, both end this weekend. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

07-11-11  05:43pm - 4913 days #5
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Sorry on my part Khan. Our posts must have crossed since I didn't see yours. I can send the info to Denner in email when I find it. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

07-11-11  04:58pm - 4913 days #4
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Went back and was checking it out again. Still believe it's Brazzers, but have never heard of their biller, CG Billing, though the billing site is in English. Which to me contradicts having the site in Spanish unless they are just going for an "authentic" feel. If they expect mostly Spanish speaking customers seems their billing would be in Spanish as well. I do notice a really bad cross-sale marked on the bottom of the page. It's a 1 day trial for 1 Euro, even though CumLouder charges in dollars. Also, this trial, if not unchecked, rebills after one day at 39.95 Euro, which would be roughly 55-56 dollars. I'll dig around google and see if I can find out more about it. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

07-11-11  04:41pm - 4913 days #3
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Hey Denner, as a fellow lover of the Latina models, I have almost joined this site a couple of times. I have really fell for this newer model Jynx Maze and was looking for content of her and found several samples on freeones of her at Cum Louder.

I could be wrong in this, but I have a few reasons to think this site is owned by Brazzers. Not that that's a negative, Brazzers has really improved their business practices. This is why I do think it's owned by them.

I first pre-registered on CumLouder, username and password, to see who their biller was. I use a very odd username on Brazzers, it's a combination of letters and numbers, it's one of those usernames that no one else could possibly use since it doesn't contain any actual words. When I put this username in on CumLouder, it gave me this message, "El usuario ya existe, escribe otro." In English, this means the username already exists.

Now, a month or so ago, I also joined Mofos, which is also owned by Brazzers. When I tried to use the same username from Brazzers to sign-up for Mofos, it said the username already exists. So I added one letter and one number to the username and registered on Mofos.

When CumLouder gave me the message about the username already existing, I changed it to the one I created on Mofos, there was the "El usuario ya existe, escribe otro." message again. So that name also showed up as already being registered. I find it highly unlikely that there are two members on CumLouder that used the same random, odd usernames I used to join Brazzers and Mofos. This would make it look like to me that it is owned by Brazzers. I don't understand why they have it in Spanish. They do have some non-Latina models like Alexis Texas, a very popular model at Brazzers too.

I've been in sort of a rut in joining sites, but I may push ahead and join this one. If I do I will post here and let you know what I find on it. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

06-23-11  09:58pm - 4931 days #2
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I really couldn't think of any off the top of my head but found these on TBP.

Giant Females
Giant Fem - Says Non-nude though
Mean Amazon Bitches

Can't say I personally recommend any of them since there just isn't much information available on them, but you might find what you're looking for on one of those. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

06-20-11  07:38pm - 4934 days #39
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


My reservation with download managers (not that my sites exclude their use yet) is that if a couple of members with really fast connections decide to use download managers to systematically download everything they can at the full speed of their connection that can slow down the experience for everyone else visiting the site.

I don't want members being put off because someone else is hogging as much bandwidth as they can and making the site run slowly. It's just not fair.


Can understand with your sites or any of the sites that are not the ones bragging "Biggest reality porn collection on the internet!" or "World's Greatest Porn Network!" and always topped off with "Unlimited downloads!!!" One of those severely limits download speeds without a download manager, a difference of 400 kb/s to 2000 kb/s, which in turn is false advertising since they say "unlimited" downloads.

Another more neutral advantage to download managers is to the people who are still on dial-up or live in countries with just poor internet connections since the manager would often let them resume if the download connection is lost.

On your side, I honestly wouldn't use a download manager on a site like yours.

The biggest negative to using one for me is that I download way too much content that I probably won't even watch. Like my last month at Videobox, 912 GB in one month and I've probably watched 1/10th of it. My rule now is if the site isn't limiting my download speeds severely, Viv Thomas Video, also does this, I won't use a download manager at all. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

06-19-11  08:22pm - 4935 days #33
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I recently switched back to Free Download Manager. I had been using DownThemAll on Firefox, but it was really draining my system resources when trying to do something on another tab, my work, typing, would stop for 10-15 seconds when each new download started and all the keys I had pressed during that time would then start working. Though admittedly, it was pretty funny when it first happened since I was typing an email and probably typed 4-5 words during this frozen time. Then all of a sudden the words started appearing. You could probably use that as a funny practical joke on someone by saying your computer is haunted and types by itself.

IDM is free for 30 days, I think. But Free Download Manager, in my experience, is a very good free alternative. Once you get the feel of it, you can click it from your start menu and it will put a little square on your browser. When you go to download something, you just drag the link to this square and that's it. It also has where you can store your login/password to each site. Without it, I would have had a horrible experience with Porn Pros, but it made a huge difference in the site's performance. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

06-11-11  08:50pm - 4943 days #15
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Little late on this one since most of the ones I like right now have been mentioned.

I had a lull in gaming when the current generation of consoles came out and played stubborn, going back and playing games on the PS2 that I had missed like Okami and Bully, but still didn't jump into the current generation until a few years ago. I think the first 6 months, all I played was GTA IV and the DLC on the 360, then I picked up Fallout 3 Game of the Year edition and spent nearly 400 hours on 2 different characters. Really enjoyed Red Dead Redemption and the Zombie DLC. I seem to play games differently than a lot of gamers do today. The open world, free roam games work best for me since I like to explore everything instead of just trying to run through the objectives the game company decided on.

I laid back on Borderlands since it came out around the same time the Fallout 3 GotY edition came out, just bought the Borderlands GotY edition just about a month ago. The bad thing with me and games, I have times where I may not play them for 2-3 weeks. Then I'll have times where I can play for a few hours everyday. I enjoyed the Assassins Creed games, the Bioshock ones, liked the Mass Effects, but not as much as most did or as I thought I would.

One I really liked though I thought for sure I wouldn't like it was Alan Wake.

Still unplayed though I have them and plan on playing over the next month, Oblivion GotY edition, Dragon Age Ultimate and Dragon Age II. Have started Fallout: New Vegas and downloaded Dead Money and Honest Hearts, but haven't had much time to play any of it, but should for the rest of the summer. Really looking forward to playing through it and the two more DLCs they have coming out for it.

Oh and on the mention of Half Life, "The Orange Box" for 360 is really good if anyone has missed it, one of the best values in video games. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

05-21-11  04:52pm - 4964 days #28
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There's a model that I really like, hadn't discovered her until recently and wouldn't have discovered her if not for her being in a threesome scene with a model I liked.

I think her main alias is Aliana Love. Her body size seems to change from video to video, including some jiggly small fat on her, but she's become a favorite.

Another that I've looked over for years is Loni. I've seen various last names, short, kind of plump Filipino model. I know FTV has her listed as just Loni so she is pretty easy to find. Both her and Aliana give me the image of someone I could see walking around the neighborhood.

I think the interest in the more "perfect" models, at least for me, is that those were the snobs when I was growing up and there's some kind of pleasure in seeing them naked. I fully accept my pervert label! My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

04-29-11  07:38pm - 4986 days #4
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I would wonder if sites went to showing the full nude model in the preview because of the non-nude sites that used to manipulate that? They would show the model in clothes, second page of preview...model in lingerie...third page of preview teasing to take her bra off...fourth page of preview, "Join now to see more!" Then you joined and she never takes all of her clothes off or she does, but covers the parts you wanted to see. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

04-26-11  02:35pm - 4989 days #14
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I don't think I've changed too much. I prefer the 25-35 group because I do like a little pubic hair, not a full bush and I like the curves.

I think another way to look at it is the type of action to see each age range in. I've noticed the younger models are better at the all-out hardcore, the slightly older are better at the strip/seduction/masturbation/solo/girl on girl.

My top 10 that I have been collecting for years now are all 25 and older now with Eufrat just reaching 25 and three are turning 30 this year, Sandra Shine, Sophie Moone and Heather Vandeven. Even one of the youngest "looking" models, Aaliyah Love, is 26. Also saw a new scene of Raylene/Alexis Fontaine on Bang Bros, she's got to be in her mid-30s and she still is attractive. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

04-21-11  11:42pm - 4994 days #3
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Thanks you all, I still get a laugh each time I post a review and hit the character limit, then remember it used to only be 1,500 characters. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

04-15-11  04:57pm - 5000 days #13
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Originally Posted by leepea:


Otoh,
thanks for the reply. I just want to point out that we very recently added a forum section and are getting the word out now to members. Rewards points a turn off...can you give me more detail there as to why? Shitty prizes/incentives? Also I know alot of folks are 21sextury fans and I saw someone post that they offer lifetime membership even if you cancel? Not sure I ever saw that on their sites...

-L


Overall, I noticed in one of your other posts the mention of mobile porn. I could be completely wrong on this, but I don't know any collectors of porn that use the mobile porn options. I mention this because it's the collectors that are most likely going to be your long-term customers or the ones that return 3-4 times a year. Mobile I guess is a nice touch, but most collectors are looking for technical quality, something mobile porn doesn't offer.

We also collect external hard drives to hold all of our HD huge collections of porn on.

A balance in quality is needed. Some sites just go too far, even 21 Sextury, some of those scenes are 1920x1080 resolution with 10000 bitrates, topping 2 GB each. I think model selection can matter as well, but maybe in connection with model selection too, exclusive content really helps. I've joined sites in the past just because they have a dozen or so exclusive clips of my favorite models.

On the 21 Sextury lifetime membership part. What they've done, when you cancel, your username and password stays active. It's like having a lifetime pass to the members area of their site. This way you can go back and check updates, changes, new sites, etc...

The lifetime membership doesn't allow you to download anything though, unless I'm mistaken. I do think it's a nice touch though since a lot of sites won't let non-paying visitors see their content or new updates until they join. It's nice for us collectors that collect certain models and we can visit to see if there is new content for any of those favorites without having to pay. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

04-13-11  01:55pm - 5002 days #2
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I would say your best bet is to give Zero Tolerance On Demand a try. They list 28 videos of Tori and list all as HD. Some of their older HD videos only go up to 720p, but it looks like most of hers are 1080p. Plus, overall, the models would be similar to the ones on Digital Playground and most of the content, though DVDs, is exclusive to their site. As an added bonus, if you join through the link above through TPB/PU you get a month membership for $19.95 instead of the regular price of $29.95. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

04-11-11  05:25pm - 5004 days #8
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


Thanks for all the information, exotics. I appreciate it. One more question: who's the girl in the picture you use in your posts?


That is Pamela Spice. She's one of Pacino's models over at Pacino's Adventures and has her own solo site that is included with Pacino's Adventures. I had said I wasn't going to review her site since it's no longer updating, but think I will. Anyone who likes exhibitionism would love her site, though it's relatively small and dead, it still has over 100 videos of her and about 1/4 or 1/3 involve exhibitionism. With some of it being very risky like upskirt with panties pulled over at a public park as people walk by. The score won't be real high, but because of the exhibitionism niche being devoid of any really great sites, it makes for a nice addition to the exhibitionist collection. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

04-11-11  02:12pm - 5004 days #2
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That I know of there are two networks. 21 Sextury and 21 Sextreme. Some of the "bonus" sites may be shared between the two. So I don't think, could be wrong, but don't think there is a separate bonus sites network.

Of the three sites you listed in your example, Anal Teen Angels and Daily Sex Dose are both on the 21 Sextury network. Teach Me Fisting is on 21 Sextreme.

I can't speak for the 21 Sextreme network, but the 21 Sextury network works more like this. These are the numbers I'm counting.

21 Sextury has 24 exclusive sites. Which would leave 13 partially are completely non-exclusive sites. These 13 sites are called "bonus sites". Most of these bonus sites are a specific genre and look to be a way for 21 Sextury to post some content that they normally wouldn't produce or provide. Since us porn fans are moody in our content, what we want to see, those bonus sites could give us some content, even non-exclusive, that fits a niche their exclusive sites don't cover.

I think the best example of this is the site Sex City Asia. 21 Sextury has very few Asian models and one exclusive Asian site but it only has 45 scenes, so say you got in the mood to see an Asian model, you could go to this bonus non-exclusive Asian site (100+ scenes) and download a few videos from it. Several of the non-exclusive sites are also based around American models. Since their exclusive sites don't have many American models, those bonus sites, give the member a possibility to download American models. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

04-01-11  11:58pm - 5014 days #9
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Really, for awhile there, I didn't care for networks. I can probably thank Brazzers for that, since I used a month subscription to download exactly one scene. I also am still having trouble with the DDF network, though I think it has more softcore-midcore on several of the sites in it.

There are or were some softcore networks. Teen Dreams had a network, though part of the content was from Teen Dreams, it did have some exclusive sets. Their network had maybe 10 solo sites on it, all had the word "sweet" in front of the model's name. I know they had Sweet Eva, Sweet Peaches, that's about as close to a softcore network I've seen and if you've been to Teen Dreams there is a chance you have maybe 1/2 of the content.

Originally Posted by Drooler:


21st Sextury used to just be Pix And Video and Club Sandy. I liked it that way. Simple. You can concentrate on the content without being distracted by the way the site(s) is/are set up.


Like with most things technical, my proven trial and error method worked again on this very problem you're talking about. One of the reasons I am so high on 21 Sextury's network's navigation is a little trick I accidentally found. You actually can block the other 35 sites by clicking an X beside the sites' name and you'll just see Pix and Video and Club Sandy updates. With their new account that lets you stay a "member" even after cancel, it seems to have made the network very usable.

While those two sites are my biggest reason for joining this network, I have found some of the others like Cuties Galore and Lez Cuties to be really good too. Like I was telling Denner, this is where I found Willa, late to finding her but she has quite a few sets on those sites.

I ended up blocking the non-exclusive sites, then would pick through the exclusive sites, blocking them as I got all the content I wanted from them. It almost seems too easy considering it's as simple as clicking the X, but I've never seen another network do this.

Also liked the "lifetime member" feature since it gives you access to the member area even after your membership has expired, saves your settings, saves the blocked sites and you can sign in anytime and see what the new updates are. I think they're onto something with this. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

04-01-11  11:29pm - 5014 days #11
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I agree 100%. FTV Girls has some amazing exhibitionist scenes. I've often wondered why they don't promote themselves as a public nudity / exhibitionist site because they really do that well. They do it better than a lot of sites that sell themselves as public nudity / exhibitionist sites.




I agree, I had joined Public Flash years ago, didn't like it that well and wondered why FTV didn't promote themselves in public porn since I thought they were much better at it than the public sites I had seen.

My favorites started with Melia, pretty old scenes there, but she had one flashing as she pumped gas, got herself all worked up. They get back to the set to shoot masturbation and she squirted and it wasn't one of those water fountain looking squirts, but just a little and the look of shock on her face when she did it really made that scene.

The one that got my attention recently was Candice. There is a whole exhibitionism cycle going on with her. First a little provocative posing in tight clothes, then a slight boob flash, then a full boob flash, then the pants came down for a thong flash and this carries on until she finally says, "But I want to masturbate now!" The whole scene, in a car garage where you could clearly tell was a real garage with a dozen or so classic cars being worked on in it. They finally let her go in the office where there are several of the mechanics and she masturbates in front of them.

Also thought Tamara aka Aaliyah Love's exhibitionism scenes on FTV were really good. I need to join there again and see what all I've missed. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

03-31-11  04:06pm - 5015 days #7
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Kind of funny, some of my favorite scenes of all-time are on sites that are either dead or no longer available to download...

Eve Angel and Aria Giovanni at Bubblegirls. The guy at Bubblegirls had some kind of Jedi mind control over the models on there. For those who never saw the content from that site, it was a man/producer who would massage/finger/use toys on models. The negative was the videos were poor quality, we're talking 2004/2005 here, were split into 2-4 minute parts too. The bad news, the guy that runs it no longer allows downloads. Instead, you can stream the videos THEN buy them on DVDs with supply and demand being the name of the game. Less popular model DVDs are as low as $15, more popular like Aria (some of the few hard masturbation videos she has done are here) go as high as $40 for one scene. I still have my collection from the site and have it backed up on two externals and DVDs too!

Jessica at Pacino's Adventures. Her 3 scenes on his site are 3 of my top 20 scenes of all-time. Maybe the fact that she made enough money to leave the business and become a pro cheerleader has something to do with how special these are?

Pamela Spice's exhibitionism scenes. More Pacino here. Dead site though. Pamela gives off the most positive exhibitionist vibe in her scenes that I've seen. You can even see her becoming fidgety when there are too many people for her to flash and when she gets a flash, she giggles and you can see her enjoyment in her face. Add to that, she looks as innocent as a model can look and those scenes become favorites real quick.

Also surprises me that I will mention these since I have been frustrated with this site, but a lot of FTV scenes are favorites. I'm on a whole exhibitionism kick right now so look over me on that, but the exhibitionism scenes at FTV are really good. I can't think of the model's name, but she has a whole group of scenes on there where she starts out stripping in a car repair garage, guys all around, seriously working on cars. The slight boob teases turn into nude except thong moments and these lead to her masturbating in a room with the mechanics watching. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

02-28-11  05:13pm - 5046 days #16
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I had talked about the first site I joined in a poll a few years ago, but never can remember the name of it. Would have been the earlier part of the 2000s. It was a solo tease model that advertised "See me nude inside". So I joined and when inside I did see her nude but it was in a bathtub with bubbles covering the parts I wanted to see. Like others above, I then discovered the Lightspeed girls and remember that my favorite, I'm probably the only one, was Brandy Didder. After having my fill of tease sites, I jumped to Twistys thanks to searching Aria Giovanni photos on google and noticing the Twistys trademark at the bottom. I have Aria to credit for a lot of things in porn. Also saw a misnamed photo of "Aria" that was really Eve Angel, who became my favorite model. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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I'm probably in the minority since I don't want to move from Vista to Windows 7. I haven't had any problems at all with Vista. I had been using Kaspersky Security, but switched to Norton Internet Security last year and now prefer it.

One thing I do that may be harder depending on the brand of computer you use. About once a year, sometimes every 6 months if things get cluttered. I move all the important files from my internal hard drive to an external. My main computer is a Hewlett-Packard, it comes with a factory image stored on the D: drive partition. This resets the computer to the way it was the day I bought it. Takes about 20-30 minutes. No discs to put in. It does wipe your hard drive out and clears the software you have put on it, but that's another hour or so to go back and download, re-install your browsers, media players, etc...

I've been doing this since 2007 and have yet to have a problem with the computer I'm using. That's about 10 TB of porn downloaded, transferred from external to external and still no problems by using the factory reset feature. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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I originally was a two sport athlete in college in Mississippi, baseball and football. Don't remember the baseball coaches having a problem with any of the players having sexual relationships as far as hurting our on-field performance. Of course, he did ban swimming for all pitchers since he said the swimming motion was too much like the throwing motion in baseball and wore the pitchers shoulders out before a game.

Football, whole other story. As a defensive player, our defensive coordinator believed in the defensive players having full sexual freedom during the season, only on Sunday and Monday. By doing this, his belief was the sexual deprivation from Tuesday to Saturday's game would raise our aggression levels and also promoted focus and discipline. Especially if we were having sex on Sunday and Monday. Only the offensive linemen had to do this from the offense. The quarterback, receivers and running backs had sexual freedom all week since you don't really won't those guys being aggressive. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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The 21st Sextury premium sites Club Sandy and Pix and Video have a lot of photoshoot videos. They usually call them backstage videos and their Blue Angel site seems to have a backstage/photoshoot video every few updates. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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How about an old favorite that I hadn't seen in years and had forgotten about until Videobox's Vivid channel got it?

April (Flowers) in Marissa Scene 1. I had this scene years ago on one of those compilation VHS tapes, but hadn't found it online until recently on the Vivid channel. One of April's finest scenes of her career, including bent across the ledge of a building while the guy hardly moves and her hips/butt does all the action. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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I sometimes wonder with Eve. Back when she wasn't as big of a star and exchanged heavily translated emails with her fans, she often talked about how she grew up overweight.

The biggest I've seen her was the outdoor pissing set on Zoliboy, Zoli even says something about how much weight she had put on, not in a negative way though. That set was released on Zoli in May 2005, so it's at least 5-6 years old.

Here is a link to a small thumb from it, fully dressed and is, I think the thumb for the set on his site.

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I haven't really thought about this too much unless it's an actress I would like to see in porn.

The best I've found is Carmel Moore looking like Shakira. Though she's retired now, Sky Lopez was supposedly given the stage last name Lopez because of her resemblance to Jennifer Lopez, though Sky, in some sets looks like Shakira. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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No big deal messmer, we're porn fans where models stay "barely legal" until they're 35 and 28 year old models show up as "mature".

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Back a few years ago, a bunch of us sports forum users met in Vegas, but the site itself took pictures and posted them on their forum. It was fun though. We had three who showed up that had female parts and we had always thought they were guys! Imagine the awkwardness of that at a porn users reunion. Though I will say, depending on location, I would make the trip. I have no intentions of running for a politician's spot or working in any more high moral fields. I said politician and high morals in the same sentence! My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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I would say for one, don't be too worried about porn sites giving you viruses/spywares like limewire. The reputable sites thrive off of returning customers and word of mouth so it's highly unlikely they're going to give you any of the crap limewire puts on a PC. Reputable sites like Videobox, which is like having a DVD store in your computer with nearly 10,000 DVDs to download as example, for $15 a month.

As for DVDs, I haven't bought a porn DVD in years, but if you ever do decide to try another site check out Mandy is Kinky for some rather unusual horror/sci-fi porn. It comes with a reputable network with it. I don't think the site itself updates anymore, but they have a pretty good sized collection of content. Actually think they stopped it because too many of the members thought the horror part was over done and it turned some of the scenes more into "gross" than sexy.

Kind of made me laugh a little since I saw a scene just the other day that had the "male demon" in it. It was from the old Vivid series, "Bad Wives" and Raylene was having sex in jail with another female who had a strap-on on. The scene would then cut to a dream-like sequence for Raylene and it was a man with fire burning behind him and a 10 inch tongue sticking out wiggling My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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Probably depends where you live, but just doing a search in my area for prepaid visa cards brings up nearly every bank in my area, most of the pharmacies like Walgreens and looks like most convenience stores have them too. I wouldn't bet against Wal-Mart having them either. They're pretty common.

I've never bought one, but I take it they work like gift certificates so I would guess if you wanted a $30 prepaid card you would pay $30, probably a small fee, couple dollars and tax. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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Originally Posted by Denner:


She's been one of my favorites for years - and I'll dare to say she is/was in the same league as Eve Angel (Now, relax, exotics, lol).


That's just blasphemy Denner! Seriously, supposedly DDF shot a bunch of Eve's sets on Eve Angel Official back in March and has been using those for new updates, the new summer, better shape Eve is back in her newest sets on Eve Angel Official. Check out the preview of that newest set with the Harley Davidson. And hey DDF and I guess Eve listens, after several requests for a set with Eve in tight jeans, which is rare, a set in tight jeans popped up! The last few weeks updates on the site have all been top-notch. Kind of got the feeling from back and forth emails with the webmaster that maybe Eve had a touch of a flu for about a month during the spring filming. Now she's back to her old self again. Never should have used the world "old" but you know what I mean. Also her g/g set on there with Alexa, now Alexa Diamond, is really good. That's a girl I hope doesn't go for the implants. She's got that same "future star" in her eyes that Cindy Hope had a few years ago.

I thought I was going to cry when I saw Angelica's implants. She's the closest I had found to Eve when she was natural. Still like her, but just not quite as much.

I had wondered about Alexa May as well. I used to get her confused with Angelina Crowe. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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I had been away on a short vacation and missed this one. Being a married man with a wife who has probably ten close single/divorced female friends, I think the tattoo is similar to breast implants in one way. It's seen by women who have been in controlling type relationships to "show" their freedom to do what they want with their bodies. If you'll notice, many female tattoos are of butterflies, dolphins, butterflies were once caterpillars in cocoons that turned into beautiful butterflies. Dolphins swim freely and playfully. I'm not definite on that, but I do wonder how many of those are from being controlled and told not to alter their physical appearance.

On the other hand, I agree against those who get the tramp stamp style with brightly colored highlights that draw attention so much that the female buys her clothes with the idea of showing the tattoo off.

Then, as squirrel mentioned, there are the whole territorial/gang tattoos especially seen on Hispanic/Latina women. It's a hard one to explain since I don't think the vast majority of people understand gang lifestyles since most gangs are seen as nothing more than cliques or teens wanting to fit in, be a part of something. I speak almost solely on Southern California gangs when I say 90% of those in them see being a gangster their job. Whether it's selling drugs, being a stick-up kid/robbing/stealing, it's how they make their money and it's most likely how they will die. Those tattoos, on both men and women, can save your life and they can get you killed.

The advantage if there is one, for young females in Southern California, is the protection the tattoos offer. You'll rarely see a female gang member walking around by herself. She'll have 4-8 gun-toting gang males around her.

And last on that, I do think there are some tattoos that are more self-expression than just a fad. One way to look at them, especially with porn models, is that you're seeing them naked. If they had clothes on like they do most of the time you wouldn't even see those or know they had them. There always seems to be some good with the bad (fad ones), but some, especially the indigo color tattoos, to me, especially on Latina and black women, look more like art than anything else. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


You won't find the quantity and kind of clips of her from VideoBox on SkinVideo...the latter will give you about 10 to 15 different story settings done with a mixture of nitches (maybe even more scenes of her cuz I can't recall exactly.) Time runs from a couple minutes to above 30.
I'm sure there's also an ample number movies -- or scenes from them -- available from porn-On-Demand features, too.


I'll definitely check it out. I usually join 2 DVD sites that are either ones I haven't tried or haven't kept content from once a year. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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Would you be able to directr me to the site or movie where she does that extreme stuff. I haven't followed much of her career in the last 2 years but I always thought she was hot so I wouldn't mind seeing that extreme stuff.


I would go with Videobox, based on the ones I have, I know one is called "In Your Face" that she fully gags four or five times in it with a guy on top in a 69. One was something "grand slam" that had the dual vaginal penetration. No Swallowing Allowed is another that I think is dual vaginal penetration, those are the ones that got her the nomination for the freakiest girl in porn. The only bad thing about VB, I think, not positive, but I think some of her videos on there are on the Vivid channel, though probably not the more extreme ones. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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Is she now extreme because she couldn't make it in soft so she now has to prove that's what she wanted to do anyway? Once one barrier was down that was it?

She looks sensational. Give me the natural breasts and natural full figure look any day. In the picure on wiki, she still looks beautiful but she does look older and more worn. I wondered if you meant she had aged, she had screwed herself up physically from plastic surgery, or just gone crazy. It appears she certainly has aged. It doesn't happen to all women in porn, and I am not a porn star expert, but some do appear to age 20 years in 2-3 years.

This opens up a number of questions. Is the industry that bad? Do they get mistreated by people in porn away from the cameras? Do they have to be already screwed up to be in the industry in the first place? Are people in porn treated so badly and treat others so badly that they end up looking 20 years older? Do they have unrealistic expectations of what the industry can do for them? Do they get promised one thing and end up with another?

I ask questions because I don't have any answers, it's just guesswork. Some actresses do look in awful shape after a year or two in porn. I notice the same thing happening to some actresses in Hollywood. Expectation over reality? Stress? Lifestyle? Is it the industry doing it to them, or are they there in the first place because of a certain mentality and lifestyle. Is the decline inevitable, because an inherent self destruct code is already in there?

Okay that's enough questions. In real life some people in other professions do take a terminal decline very quickly. Some look fine after years in porn, others look like it's killed them.

I know one thing. I'm going to checkout some of her videos.

Late edit - thanks for the info. I checked her videos out on VideosZ. Sensational figure. Not sure how many porn stars make just legal 18 and milf type videos in the same year.


I've wondered the same thing about Lorena's change in appearance. Early career she was almost always in the role of innocent, sweet and looked like my avatar. Later career, rough, violent scenes, and she looked like she does on the wiki page in those. It was almost like she became the part she was playing. She doesn't look unhealthy in any of her scenes that I've seen so I don't think, hope not, drugs or some of the other ills of the porn industry got a hold of her. I just wonder if that more rough look, aged, gets her more work. I can look at a model like Eve Angel and the only differences between her early work and current work are what looks to be maybe 20 pounds, more curves, less pubic hair, but her hair and face look almost the same and she's been in the business for 8 years or so, but maybe the answer is there, she's a mostly solo model with the occasional girl/girl set thrown in. Same with Sophie Moone, Sandra Shine, and most of the Euro solo/lesbian girls. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


OO-la-la, do I ever? Aria Giovanni used to do unbelievable numbers on me. The only porno siren ever to tempt me with the thought of buying a life-sized-replica --complete with orifices.

Unfortunately, she's fell out of favor and, like an unrequited love, can take a flying f..k.

Her one and only all-consumming love is irretrevably immersed in her two tits. One would now be hard-pressed to ever see her again lest she's got them lovingly engulfed in her two hands. Obsession wouldn't begin to discribe it. In fact, Webster would find it one of his most challenging struggle finding an adjective to come even close to a discription of this woman's physical and emotional attachment to them. As a result Her solos have gone South.
Nuff, said....as far as her current stuff is concerned, I'd as soon watch grass grow.


I was going to post on your thread about meeting porn stars. I just missed going to high school with Aria! One year, I've joked with a few members on here in the past about how much I wish I had failed a year. Thing with Aria and goes with that thread you had posted. She's pretty easy to find in person. She frequently visits the Natural Food Markets, especially in the Orange County area, speaking of 2009, I've not been there since then. She's a really normal, down to earth person and trust me, I've seen her high school pictures. She really was a nerdy, geeky girl.

She has quite a bit of newer content on the DDF sites that is really good, but she's still not taking that next step. One of the videos pretty much stays on her face and boobs for 13 minutes. The funny thing for me, I actually found my favorite model Eve Angel, because someone had wrongly tagged an Eve picture as an Aria picture back in 2004. Someone else posted and said it was Eve Angel not Aria, and Eve's been my favorite ever since. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


Was hoping someone would come up with some information. Everyone except me knows all this stuff, so I am now more informed. I am just not into the name porn stars but she is very attractive. I hate the look of most of them.

I prefer hardcore to softcore myself. I was wondering whether she ended up getting a breast job and tats but it doesn't look like it. Have to check out some of her videos. The way exotics was talking I thought maybe she ended up doing a sort of Michael Jackson job on herself or just going completely crazy. The not pretty enough thing is a good indication of how far from planet earth some of these people are. Of course it could have been said to persuade her to do hardcore. If that was the case, it succeeded.


I meant to get back to your earliest post last night, but fell asleep before getting back on the internet.

The change in her was in her attitude towards the business. She almost comes off now as trying to prove "just how extreme" she can be. She has multiple scenes with one guy vaginal, another anal, one in her mouth, and she's wearing all 3 out. Her look change to me is the one that says the industry has aged her. That new picture on wikipedia, she is 24 in it. She's already been in some MILF movies and the mature seduction videos, think she was 23 in that one. She has great all-natural boobs still, I think 36 C and she's only 5'3". If you do a videobox search for "Incumming 11" you can see the various screen clips from it. Those show her body as good as any. No tattoos either, I think she had a navel ring for awhile, but that was it. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


There are quite a number hardcore videos of Lorena on SkinVideo , along with providing some of the sources from which they were uploaded. I did a review on this site here not long ago. Lorena is also featured in VideoBox....a popular site favored heavily here by many.
But you're right, she's doing it all (in hardcore) now. It's sorta sad to see this natural beauty taking what hardcore is dishing out these days.


I need to try that SkinVideo out. I have around 50 scenes of her from Videobox, favorite being "Incumming #11". I had read your review of SkinVideo and took note of it, but had already planned on making August my ALS month to join ALS Scan and ALS Angels. Some of her lower level, straight hardcore scenes, vaginal, oral, are really good, but I can't watch the triple penetration, anal gaping, gagging, smacking scenes she has. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Makes me wonder what Aria Giovanni (a very successful glamour model on the thick side) was told when she started?


Do you remember Aria's earliest videos? The Bubblegirls ones are the ones I remember most. Aria pissing in the bathtub, fisting herself and riding an end glass table with a suctioned dildo stuck to it. Believe it was maybe Suze Randall that saw her and told her there were way too many men who would love her (Aria) in softcore porn to go hardcore. I'm a huge fan of Aria, but still think she is too tame. I was even disappointed in her scene with Eve Angel. That was that most perfect match-up for me, then it turned out to be very tame. It's interesting how so many models had that one person who changed their entire career. I think Viv Thomas took Eve Angel out of hardcore after shooting her hardcore and realizing how bored she looked. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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Originally Posted by hodayathink:


In case anyone's wondering, Lorena Sanchez has been retired since I believe sometime around the middle of 2008 or so. Which sucks, because she was one of my favorites. And I'm glad she went into hardcore, because as much as I like a pretty photo, I like videos a whole lot more.


Lorena isn't retired. She just isn't filming as much. She has new videos that came out this year and had over 10 in 2009. Also on the wikipedia link she was nominated for an AVN award in 2010.
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


exotics4me, your face looks different. I hope you're not getting into the plastic surgery addiction, where you need a new facelift every few years. Or a boob job or whatever the latest fad might be. Natural is usually better, darling (I feel I can call you darling, since we are friends and fellow associates).

But I must admit, your avatar is looking good. Anyone I might know?


The model in my avatar is the walking, talking definition of what is wrong with porn. Believe it or not, that is now ultra-hardcore model Lorena Sanchez very early in her career. She wanted to be a softcore, solo, tease model, but was told she wasn't pretty enough and was "too thick" to be successful unless she went into hardcore porn. That set is stashed away on Twistys and to my knowledge, is the only site that has the set it is from.

For a more current look at her, avatar is from 2006, see her wikipedia page here. As you can see, she was nominated for "freakiest" girl in porn in 2008.
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08-06-10  12:25pm - 5253 days #19
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Growing up, there was some decoder ring offered for drinking ovaltine, I think. But my family didn't drink ovaltine. Is it too late for me to get my decoder ring now? I don't remember what the show was, maybe some TV science fiction program that I would think was totally lame if I saw an episode today.


When I read your post, the classic movie A Christmas Story came to mind. Don't know if that's what you were thinking of as if I remember correctly, Ralphie was waiting on his Little Orphan Annie Secret Society Decoder Pin and when he opened it, it said, "Drink more Ovaltine"? My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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She's listed as 2009, but the only content I've seen of her is 2010. I have her listed off DDF sites as Jessica Koks, EuroBabeIndex is listing her as Ferrara Gomez. Her Eurobabeindex main photo is unflattering to say the least especially when compared to her sets on DDF. She reminds me of a blend of Sarah Blake and Cindy Hope. Run by 1byday and check out the samples of her if you all haven't seen her. Really cute girl. Heck, she just turned 19 a few months ago so she must have started right at 18. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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I think my problem with music, especially licensed music, I have visual memories to a lot of songs. One of the songs in a Party Hardcore video was "Big Girls Don't Cry". I have a little female cousin who is 7 or 8 who used to sing that song all the time when she was 2 or 3. Other songs would make me think of my mom singing them. Then the worst of all, if it has a catchy enough hook or chorus, I may just burst into singing it

I also think different styles of music put people in different moods. There is an Eve Angel video on Babelicious that has violin music in it. Completely ruins the video for me. I like to hear violin music when resting or taking a nap. However, if you're ever a member of Twistys, download the 2 part video of Eve Angel with Puma Black. These two were two of my top 5 models. It was even a full video. Both started fully dressed, stripped each other, kissing, touching and this annoying as hell 8 second techno loop playing in the background. The worst part, it isn't the only Twistys older video with that same loop in it. A bunch of the older videos there have it. It was almost like it was their trademark song so you knew you were watching a Twistys video. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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The DDF sites, especially 1byday, share almost the same models as Viv's site, they have a good full trial now that you could try out before paying their premium monthly price. Pictures are usually 2000 or higher. If you're into girl/girl then try Sapphic Erotica. Again, very similar models as Viv and higher quality. The bad thing though, I don't think either has as good action as Viv produces. It could be the exact same models and somehow Viv gets a better performance out of them. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

06-02-10  12:12pm - 5318 days #62
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I took it, but have no further comment on the questions and their purposes My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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