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06-13-12  09:06am - 4575 days #17
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Originally Posted by Marcus:


A good point well made, and I agree. I think the journey to nudity within a set is often as exciting as the nudity itself.


The journey is just as important as the destination, IMO.

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06-12-12  03:23pm - 4576 days #47
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Originally Posted by Reveen:


...perhaps they just think that we are rubes and are gullible enough to pay over the odds for their sites (which clearly some subscribers probably are).

I don't see why I should be charged more than an American for no good reason (and there is no valid reason for regional pricing in my opinion) and I don't see why I should be subsidizing other users just because they are one nationality and they are another.


I quite agree.

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06-12-12  03:19pm - 4576 days #8
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06-12-12  09:17am - 4576 days #45
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Location: Near the Beer! 		Virtual goods & tangible goods are completely diverse and reference to tangible goods clouds the issue.

I know ethics doesn't venture much into the real world, I am not that naive. I am not expecting it, just saying scams & profiteering needs to be called when it is going on.

I am basing my 'cost plus' argument on virtual goods, not real world essentials. Everyone is in business to make money, after all.

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06-11-12  11:35pm - 4577 days #24
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06-11-12  04:25pm - 4577 days #2
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Location: Near the Beer! 		I do agree with your thougts, but the powers that be will give you a definitive answer on that.

The gist I got was that it was to prevent the occasional 'POed' customer giving a '0' and screwing the site's stats.

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06-11-12  03:36pm - 4577 days #3
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Location: Near the Beer! 		How about Open Office?

That is a free equivalent of Microsoft Works.

Their Excel substitute Calc is very good for jobs like that.

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06-11-12  09:45am - 4577 days #41
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Location: Near the Beer! 		Ethically profits should be based on a 'cost plus' basis rather than the, 'Let's see what we can squeeze out of them' approach.

Sure with tangible goods there are variable delivery costs.
Going on the 'cost plus' ethos virtual goods effectively should cost the same globally.

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06-10-12  11:38pm - 4578 days #21
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Location: Near the Beer! 		I use Win7 at work but do not find it user friendly.
It may be partitally due to the restrictions placed upon me as a user, but I can find my way around much quicker & easier on my XP64 Pro home computer.

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06-10-12  02:49pm - 4578 days #39
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Location: Near the Beer! 		I have never heard of regional pricing being used to lower prices.

Just raise them.

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06-10-12  02:46pm - 4578 days #7
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06-08-12  05:34pm - 4580 days #2
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06-08-12  05:29pm - 4580 days #37
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06-06-12  11:12am - 4582 days #34
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Location: Near the Beer! 		I think we should agree to differ on the issue.

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06-06-12  12:49am - 4583 days #2
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Location: Near the Beer! 		I take it you are referring to single model sites?
That is one of the beauties of photography.
It captures a moment in time.

There are plenty of long running sites that have revamps from time to time too.

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06-05-12  06:21pm - 4583 days #32
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The concept is quite straight forward.
Most often the sites using regional pricing are non EU.
It is nothing to do with local taxes, it is simply geared towards charging as much as they feel they can.

Just check out Reveen's post earlier in this thread.

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06-05-12  06:06pm - 4583 days #21
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Originally Posted by bibo:


Yet another factor is the "niche" factor. This is just like TV. A couple of decades ago, people were happy to have *something* to watch on TV. Now, they decided that just watching *something* isn't good enough and voila... there is niche broadcasting. Same with porn. Just watching a bunch of nude people in bed isn't enough anymore. People want to have their special preferences catered. The result is further fragmentation of the customer base.

No idea where this is going. I guess for us customers it's a good trend, because we're currently living in a customers market. But this trend could be reversed at some point, when we see the critical mass of sites dying and the remaining sites more and more unable to feed the supply.


Customers can only buy what is available.
I would subscribe to sites that properly catered to my preferences.
Unfortunately there don't seem to be any consistent providers & few if any are willing to.

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06-04-12  11:56pm - 4584 days #13
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Sounds like a visit to Doctor Feel Good Is In Order


Doctor Feelgood will put you on 'Milk and Alcohol' !

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06-04-12  12:42pm - 4584 days #14
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


How about we all boycott porn for a month until they listen, think of how much the nation would save in hand lotion and kleenex LOL


In my case I have very little left to boycott.

Mind you I could always look at the terabytes of photos I have avidly collected for so long.

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06-04-12  12:36pm - 4584 days #13
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Originally Posted by Khan:


... Oh, and of course for correcting typos which (for me at least) seem to become obvious only after I hit submit.


Ditto that.

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06-04-12  12:31pm - 4584 days #6
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Well done, my friend.

Do carry on!

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06-04-12  01:52am - 4585 days #9
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Location: Near the Beer! 		Tried that SOOOOO many times.

It is like shouting into a chasm.

It gets echoes, but doesn't provide a solution to the problem.

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06-04-12  01:44am - 4585 days #8
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I don't think it's such a good idea because the way the review section is designed doesn't really allow for the placements of screencaps. The box is rather narrow so could anyone really place a screencap where it would do justice to the site being reviewed. Then there's the fact that images take a lot of space which can be better served with words and links to the sceencaps on the main site.


Well, I can see copyright may be an issue.
If a way could not be found, perhaps the TBP reviews could feature them?

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06-04-12  01:39am - 4585 days #9
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06-03-12  07:20am - 4585 days #2
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05-30-12  06:25pm - 4589 days #10
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FigureBaby & TorridArt for starters.

After the first half dozen sites
though, I would be struggling!

Edit:

Actually thinking about it further, on the strength of the recent updates, I wouldn't even recommend Figurebaby.

Further to this, the original photographer has moved on to be replaced by a mainstream photographer.

Strike the Figurebaby recommendation entirely.

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Sorry to say gotta delete my other recommendation now too.

Inflated egos & not listening to anything not totally in agreement with where they want to go.

Really struggling to find any material that fits my niche properly these days!

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Just appreciate what you perceive to be good whilst it is available.

That is the approach I have to most things.
I have to do this, as so few sites cater to my preferences.

( It would be very nice if more sites did what I appreciate though. )

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05-27-12  03:23pm - 4592 days #13
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Would be nice if the upper body fitness were real, but perhaps the only way she could pay for the silicon was to do a little porn. If I were one of her fitness fans the chagrin would be for those.


I'm afraid I have to agree on that!

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05-26-12  02:43am - 4593 days #4
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For me, it was of passing interest the first time I saw it.

For a site to use it to count for an additional update is lazy & a bit of a cheat, as it is just padding other content IMO.

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It works very well for me.

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Basically, there are plenty of people out there who will take you for as much as they can get!

These relatively few bad apples basically tarnish the image of the industry, making life more difficult for the good guys.

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Welcome, my friend, I hope you become a regular contributor.

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I agree with you all that it is likely a money-grab, but sites may use it to make up for extra costs related to currency conversion, tax differences, etc.


Just take a look at Reveen's post number 17 on this thread, if you are in any doubt.

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It just goes to show, as I suspected, it is a conspiracy between CCBill & less worthy Webmanagers.

If CCBill withdrew this indefensible 'service', these thieves wouldn't get the option!

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Location: Near the Beer! 		As I said in another thread a while back, I do not have an issue with paying a premium for shipping of tangible goods.
It used to be that UK Harley part suppliers used to charge £s for $s. This covered their importation costs & saved their customers the risk of ordering sight unseen goods.
I thought that was an OK deal.

This scam however, is an outright rip-off!
As CCBill say they are requested to do it by the Webmanager, I take it they must each get a cut of the loot.

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Location: Near the Beer! 		If an internet subscription sells for $19.95 in the USA & the Webmanagers are making a satisfactory profit based on that, what justification is there for charging folk subscribing in other jurisdictions more when the costs are the same?

It is simply profiteering!

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Very true but the things you mentioned are tangible goods that have to be moved from one place to another thus introducing a variable cost depending on where the item was produced and where it is sold. Something that is intangible like a digital porn video has the same costs regardless of the physical location of the customer so should cost the same to all.


Bang on.

This is more where I am coming from.

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05-14-12  09:58am - 4605 days #8
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Ok, since this seems to be such a huge issue for people, I've finally decided to join the fray. There is one very simple solution that I'm surprised has not apparently been suggested yet: Anonymous Proxy Servers


I appreciate you are trying to help but I am not interested in 'work arounds', as they do not address the issue.

What I am trying to do is consign the greedy & unfair practice to history.

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This is the kind of info I want to publicise for the benefit of non-US consumers.

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Well, I have started it.
I really hate the greedy principle that this is based upon.

Anyone with me?

Name & shame here, please?

This insidious & underhand practice needs pulling up & killing off like the bindweed it is.

I would start the list myself, but I have very little in the way of subscriptions on the go at the moment; certainly none involving regional pricing!

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Here are a few of the culprits that spring to mind:

Met Art
Joy Mii (Which is odd as Fem Joy does not)
No rest network

All of these do it:

https://www.pornusers.com/site_company.html?id=5860

Penthouse

Evil Angel

In Focus Girls

BRAZZERS

Alison Angel

Housewife Kelly

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05-13-12  12:53am - 4607 days #22
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Actually they do because I know that whenever I join a site using Epoch then my join price is higher than the actual listed price. The difference is normally a few dollars more but it is still higher.


Well, I have to admit, I hadn't noticed it.
That is very underhand & insidious.

We can all thank CCBill for starting this scam!

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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


I don't use the regional pricing option, and never will (as long as it is an option - I do fear it might become mandatory however).



Why would such a grossly unfair & unjustifiable 'service' only provided by one billing service be made mandatory?

Who would have the legal power to do that anyway?

Why do people empower these fascists by talking in such terms?

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Originally Posted by pat362:


I know that Epoch also has Regional pricing but I think their rates are more reasonable that CC Bill.


As far as I am aware, 'No, they don't.'

They never have to my knowledge.
It is only CCBill who provide it as a 'service'.

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