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03-03-14  07:04pm - 3960 days Original Post - #1
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Ok, so I have been contacted by a girl who is wanting to do more than just modeling. She is interested in doing some porn videos, and perhaps make a website of her own. She is looking for a niche that is under represented. I told her I would do what I could to help her out.

Thought I would ask here, and see what you all thought. Is there something you just feel isn't out there enough? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

03-03-14  06:59pm - 3960 days #67
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Thanks for all the input everyone. I really do get a lot out of all the responses.

And good to see you back as well CT!! Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

01-25-14  12:05pm - 3997 days #24
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I run 8 on my laptop. I despise it! If I had wanted an I-Phone I would have bought an I-Phone. I just don't understand why a company with 80% of the market would work so hard to emulate a company with 15% of it.

I am hoping the next installment of Windows is much better, but we shall see. There is never any telling with Microsoft. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

01-25-14  12:02pm - 3997 days #61
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I myself find the treatment of women in most porn these days revolting. I really don't understand what a guy finds erotic about it. But I guess to each his own.

Thanks everyone for the answers. And a belated Happy New Year. I really hope others find them as helpful as I do.

Next question.

How do you find most of your porn sites? Is it from a review on PU? Is it from an advertisement you see on another site? Word of mouth? Web search?

Thanks again for the great input and information. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

12-14-13  11:34am - 4040 days #54
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Originally Posted by martinlongbow:


i like anal sex. so if your site does not have it, you wont get me easily. super model or not.

other than that i dont really differentiate model/amateur. i like girls with some meat on them. big hips, strong legs, big boobs is a plus obviously. i don't like skinny girls most sites use out there but i am probably not your target audience anyway,


Thanks for the reply martinlongbow, and I am not targeting any audience with this thread. I am hoping to find out information usable by any webmaster who wants to use it. So your reply is most helpful, thanks.

Originally Posted by Micha:


'real' looking girls,fer sure

most of my favorites would not be found on a fashion runway.

Originally Posted by messmer:


The real looking ones, please. Flaws and all. The glamor types do not interest me.


Thanks for the replies Micha and Messmer. To tell the truth, with the amount of sites airbrushing all the flaws away, I would not have expected these answers, but definitely glad to have them. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

12-14-13  10:28am - 4040 days #50
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Sorry guys, been a while. Been lurking but been real busy with things.

New question.

Do you prefer super model looks in the girls on websites, be it softcore, hardcore or whatever? Or do you prefer more 'real' looking girls, such as the girl next door type, with their flaws, imperfections, etc? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

12-14-13  10:16am - 4040 days #271
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Well thank you Cap'n. I am working as much as I can on the input I have received on making the site better. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

12-14-13  10:15am - 4040 days #22
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messmer, I don't believe I have any pictures showing real proof of arousal, as in 'vaginal lubrication' as I don't do alot of shots which would show that. However, I will be sure that the next time I shoot with a model who does become aroused I get the proof of it. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

12-11-13  11:40am - 4043 days #19
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I have had several of my models get aroused while shooting. And these are not pornographic photos, but just stripping. Even have had some become aroused doing non-nude shoots. I think at some point they become jaded with it, but there are some who find it genuinely exciting. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

11-04-13  07:38pm - 4079 days #4
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On several of the webcam sites, models will have guys tip them on the regular webcam site for the Skype show. Then it is just like any Skype chat. You invite just the one person to video chat. No one else can watch.

I would also assume this could be done through email and paypal, with the same use of Skype. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

10-27-13  08:39am - 4088 days #10
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I find it very hard to believe that only 12% watch adult material. One thing to consider in this, may be peoples definition of porn, or 'adult' material. I did not read the pdf, but would be interested in seeing how the question was worded. Hell some may think watching a striptease video isn't adult, or a blowjob video. Some may even think straight sex isn't porn.

Or again, it could just be people not wanting to admit it. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

10-27-13  08:23am - 4088 days #20
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I have not used affiliates up to this point, but have looked into it. 50% is pretty much the norm, and can even be on the low end. I think as Ed stated, rebills not being as popular could change that. And it may also come to pass that site owners won't be willing to pay that much if they aren't getting as many rebills.

I also have a sneaking suspicion, though this is just a guess, that the reason you are seeing the blind signups, check boxes for other sites, etc. are due to trying to make up the cost of less rebills, and could be a direct reaction to the cost of affiliate programs. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

10-27-13  08:19am - 4088 days #24
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I think it depends on the scene you are watching. If it is supposed to be a love making scene, or girl friend/boyfriend, then kissing is a must. On the other hand, if it is gang-bang, gonzo, etc. then kissing may not come into play, as it can look too staged. I think it has to fit the situation. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

09-08-13  09:45am - 4137 days #46
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Hello everyone, sorry for the absence. Son got married a week ago, and busy with the site updates.

Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I wonder why new site owners do not join a site and look at what is out there ?

The members around here I am assuming found knowledge like I did watching reading and researching what we like.
I have I think 40+ of porn exposure. And can tell you what I like and do not and can take look at a site and see it sucks pretty easy. It just always amazes me that new sites do not see what works and what does not but dive in anyways.
Wierd.

Cybertoad Out !!


Good points, but you have to realize, just looking at the forums here, that no two people have the same tastes. So if a site owner joined one of the big ones, and saw what they were doing, then the people who didn't like that style would hate the new site as well. Everyone has different tastes.

Personally, from what I have read on here, something outside the box, and new, is what is missing. Not the same old stuff. So perhaps diving in, while risky,is worth the chance? It may not work, but one can't know without trying. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-27-13  04:36pm - 4148 days #43
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Most sites I join have multiple niches, so if there are ones there I don't like I ignore but it really is more about the quality of the niche I have an interest in.

Some sites are known for their soft core (MetArt for instance) but at the same time they have a hard core portion too.

Let me back up now to Q#2: I think most important is a regularly occurring time that it is updated. Once a week is acceptable - only larger sites with multiple directors do more than one a day (like Evil Angel)so I've never expected a smaller site to try to be like that. But as I started off here - regularly scheduled updates.


Thanks for that jberryl69. So as long as the updates are regular, when they say they will be done, then for the most part you are good with it. I have heard that quite a bit. And again, I think this comes back to the sites being honest about what they have, and what they are offering. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  06:53pm - 4150 days #41
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I wasn't aware of your site so I took a look at it so that I'd have a better idea of what to say and what not to say.
Now the following are in regards to your site in particular and I'll add some general info afterwards.

1-Not sure if it's my computer only but your pages are too big for my screen and I have to scroll left and right or up and down to see everything's on the page. That is quite annoying so that would be something that could use fixing.

2-I know the site is called "see me tease" so that might be obvious what is inside the members section but it would be nice if there was a mission statement.

3-The site design is rather primitive with very little info available on the preview section and that might make many people nervous and therefore make them avoid joining simply because of that.

4-On the join page there is a mention that the 19.95$ join price also includes a 3 day trial membership for 2.95$ so that new members can cancel at no extra cost. Does that mean that someone who bought a 19.95$ membership can cancel after 2 days and get refunded the difference between the 2 amounts?

5-A follow up to the above inquiry. Does it mean that a current 3 day trial is in fact a full access 3 day trial membership that rebills at 19.95$ or is it really a partial access?

6-There appears to only be 16 models on the site but the tiny pic at the bottom of the join page makes it look like there might be a lot more inside the members area. which is the correct info?


Now to answer some of your questions.

1-Content is the most important thing to me because I would still feel cheated if I paid only a dollar for crappy stuff.

2-Second most important thing is quality of the product. I don't need HD content but it has to be at least of a decent resolution, good camera angles and not be broken into multiple parts.

3-Ease of finding the content is the third most important thing because I rarely have only one active membership so wasting an hour to find a couple of vids on a site will definitely annoy me and may make me quit trying long before I find everything I care to.

4-If a site has already at least 50 or more vids (100 would be better) then I expect nothing less than one new scene per week and it must always be updated on the same day each time.

5-Price is not really an issue for me but the content must warrant it or I won't join.


Again, while I did not start this thread to have people go to my site, but for general information about what members are looking for, I am very happy to answer the questions you posed concerning it.

1. I will have to look into the scrolling issue you have with the site page sizes. But I am going to be making changes, so that will be added to the list.

2 & 3. Again, this is on the list. I am taking much of the input I am getting here on PU and making a plan for a major overhaul. I do thank you for the input.

4 & 5. 5 is the correct one here. Full access for 3 days then a rebill, at the full price. Again, subject to change.

6. 16 models total at this point. The thumb at the bottom is a screen of the members area, where all the models sets are posted together in the order the updates are posted. Again, one of the many changes I will be making.

I do want to restate in this answer to you, that I am not fishing for visitors or members. I have a ton of work to do in order to make my site worth even a visit. And the information I gather here will help me in doing so. And I hope is very useful to others who do, or are wanting to, run websites.

And thank you very much pat362 for the answers you gave to the questions, and your input about my site. I truly do appreciate it. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  01:03pm - 4150 days #38
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Its like a Mexican Restaurant you love you go to because it authentic, then they decide to take away from mexican style food by removing some menu items and replace it with cheeseburgers and hot dogs.
There was a place that actually did that where I live and we all went WTF ?


I know what you mean here. I also hate when every restaurant or fastfood place gets on the same kick. A few years ago it was fish tacos. Everywhere, all at once, offered fish tacos.

Now it is pretzel buns, be it for hot dogs or burgers/sandwiches.

That really drives me crazy. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  12:20pm - 4151 days #36
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


As long as there are search options and/or filters that accurately separate the different niches, that wouldn't bother me. I've been on sites that have search functions that, when searching for lesbian content, still bring up scenes with guys. That kind of shit is annoying.


Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Not all sites can be all they can be,.
Seems some think I can do porn I will be the pornocopia of the internet and they end up often not offering a very good selection or what they offer ends up looking like the same thing format wise.

Let me explain it this way,
Ok lets take horror director George Romero,
Drama Director Ron Howard, Mel Brookes, and my favorite the psychopath Quentin Tarantino and tell them to all switch places and make movies It would in two words be "fucked up " .

Having a porn site does not make one and expert at porn. Allot of us members here know allot about porn but do not have websites ( most don't) either.

I think a site that has mixed is fine as along as they do it well. And do not make it look like they open a can and did a scene.

Twisty is one such site in my opion, they are a nice looking site, the solos are pretty amazing, but the sex scenes are so generic I practically laugh at how generic it is. See Twistys started off solo girl and grew from there. Using the same format and I can tell a twistys sex video a mile away without glasses. LOL.

My suggestion if someone does not do it well get some one that can, or don't do it.

Of course thats just this crazy toads take.

Thanks guys.

So as long as the site has a good search feature to find what you want, and the content, no matter what it is, is kept at a high quality, then the multi-niche site is acceptable or even a good thing. Do I have that correct?

And a follow up to Question #3:
Does it bother you when a niche site starts to wander into other niches? So a solo girl site starts adding hardcore b/g, such as Twistys as Cybertoad mentioned. Or a straight b/g hardcore site starts into threesome/orgy, if it means less updates of the original intent, due to having the new niche updates? Or does it matter as long as the content is good. Hope that makes sense, haha. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  11:47am - 4151 days #32
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Question #3:

Does it bother you when a site has multiple niches? Softcore, combined with hardcore, combined with solo girls, combined with non-nude. Or any other combination. Or do you actually like having an all in one site for you shopping needs? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  11:44am - 4151 days #31
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Well I think some sites just go way over board and make it hard to even see the true aspect of the site.

I think X-art has one of the best sites designs its simple easy to use is a really big site, but does not feel over whelming to use. The main page is simple logo navigation and ease of use.


Just looked at their site. and yes, I see exactly what you mean. Minimalist, and yet everything is there. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  09:38am - 4151 days #29
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Every porn viewer looks at sites from a variety of venues.
Perhaps after work, or late at night. Or when wife goes to the store for groceries .

I think a pet peeve many would have is sloppy sites, sites should be :
Consistent, page to page and if you have a search engine it should work or remove the thing.

Smooth
Page to page the site should flow like reading a book. If I click on Page A, Page Z should be the same format.

Busy
Some sites over use fonts and affects and make a site look busy and cheesy. Problem with that approach is some browsers will make a site look horrible and compress gifs making a site look like 10 year old technology.


So simple rather than flashy? Or am I simplifying too much? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  05:59am - 4151 days #27
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Originally Posted by metem:


Things I am looking for:

-reasonable price. $30 or less a month.
-non-recurring billing options.
-a payment processor I've heard of.
-preferably a payment processor in the U.S. so I don't have to eat international transaction fees.
-high-quality content. Full-resolution pictures, video at 720p minimum, preferably full HD (after all, this is one of the things that gets people to pay for pro content over the free pic/tube sites, at least in my experience)
-either daily updates or a decently-sized archive so that I can have something new to look at each day
-A site that is easy to navigate and lets me easily sort by specific content types
-I would also concur with the points made above about no surprises or default-checked upsells. I would add to that, don't have ads on the members area of your site, as that's another thing someone is paying money to get away from.


Welcome metem, nice first post. I do appreciate the input.

If there was one thing that would turn you away from joining a site, what do you think it would be? So when you go to the preview of a site, you see something, and immediately know you will not join.

Thanks again, and look forward to more posts. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  05:50am - 4151 days #26
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


The content and niche is most important, but after that it's the price. Honestly, there isn't that much variation in price relative to amount and quality of content i.e. usually the sites that charge an extra $10-20 per month provide better content to justify it. That being said, I have come across sites that charge almost 10 euros per ~100 pic photoset, and you can be sure I will not be paying that anytime soon! Payment processor doesn't matter to me so far, but many others have been burned by bad processors, so I know I'm in the minority there. Packages can make a difference if they're really good. When I find a site that offers a site or two that I like as a bonus, you can bet that I'm joining that site next.


Thank you LPee23. Well put and good information. I appreciate the input.

A question for you. I believe I have read a few of your posts in other threads, and hope I am not out of line in asking this. But I believe you prefer at least one niche that is a bit out of the 'mainstream'.

Do you expect to pay more for out of the mainstream porn, than for say, just b/g hardcore? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  05:39am - 4151 days #38
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Even Austin isn't weird enough to open up to porn!

I don't know about that one. Austin is pretty damned weird!!




Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Probably? You are a webmaster at a porn site, right?


You have me there! Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  08:32pm - 4151 days #22
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


#1 - A good preview of the site, meaning something that will tell a potential customer what's on your site. The amount and quality of the content on your site and a clear declaration of your update schedule would be ideal.

#2 - No surprises. If the preview/description of the site says HD quality video and/or x megapixels for pictures, deliver what's been promised.

#3 - No pre-checked cross sells. To me, that's always reeked of trying to trick someone out of their money.

#4 - No or minimal advertising in the member's section


Thank you very much for this RagingBuddhist.
A couple of questions for you if you do not mind.

#1 - What exactly would you consider a good preview? A couple of pictures of the same quality and size as the members area? Or previews of each set or video? And how much description are you interested in having? Paragraphs, or short and simple, describing what the site has to offer?

The rest, at least to me, are no brainers. but this info may be very helpful to other webmasters, so I am glad you had them in your list. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  02:54pm - 4151 days #20
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Thank you Capn for the response.

I look forward to hearing more from you. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site Edited on Aug 24, 2013, 08:32pm

08-24-13  02:42pm - 4151 days #19
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You may call me Sim, sir.

Since I did not start this thread to promote my site, I did not say anything about it, but since you asked. The site is mostly nude. I have some semi nude sets. There are also a few non nude, implied nude. It all depends on the model and what she is comfortable with. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site Edited on Aug 24, 2013, 08:33pm

08-24-13  01:11pm - 4151 days #33
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Originally Posted by messmer:




Unrelated to the general beefs is my frustration that not more webmasters like Simarimas are looking in, and participating in this forum.



I really do find this hard to believe. Especially with webmasters who advertise on PU. Or have been reviewed. I can see that many may not know about PU, but if their site is getting traffic from here, then they DO know about it.

Of course I was guilty of this myself until recently, so I guess I cannot point fingers. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  01:06pm - 4151 days #15
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Originally Posted by messmer:


First in importance would be the contents, of course. After that I would like to see the option of a non-recurring one month membership. In practice it isn't a big deal because I pick "recurring" and usually cancel shortly thereafter, without penalty, but I would prefer to have the non-recurring option (at the same price) so that I wouldn't have to worry about forgetting a cancellation.


I have heard that in other threads here. That is definitely something I think most customers would appreciate. Thank you messmer. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  11:50am - 4152 days #13
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Here's how I would tackle your questions. First, what we most want is quality content. I'm willing to overlook a site's look if it has good stuff. Billing processors matter but mostly only to us who have been around a while and been burned a few times -- we all love ccbill and some of the larger ones because they have their sh*t together. As long as your prices aren't totally out of whack with the competition then we aren't terribly price sensitive so long as you got good stuff. Updates? As many as you can pump out is what we want. On a small niche site 1x per week is the bare minimum. If you're just starting out and have a small collection then think about more updates in order to grow the site -- small collections get you dinged when it comes to ratings at PU, TBP and some other review sites.

Basically if you're going to run a smallish niche site then the number one thing is to be quick to respond customer issues (good and bad), don't mislead by using promos featuring girls not on the site or promising what your can't deliver or back up, don't fall behind on the quality side (don't skimp on pic sizes or vid sizes or production thinking most people won't care, we do because we also see what the big sites are cranking out), and try to stay away from "gonzo" style because that is just so over played today. Good luck.


Thank you Wittyguy. Exactly the kind of information I am wanting. By small collections, do you mean number of sets/videos on the site. Or small as in a photo set of 10 pictures, but 200 of those sets, or both? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  11:42am - 4152 days #11
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Originally Posted by graymane:


No questions or comments, sir.
Just wanna thank you for saving me $29.95


Aha, I may have worded that incorrectly. I meant to say I did not want people going to the site or joining due to me opening this thread. And I definitely want to make the changes to the site before any of you fine people do. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  11:00am - 4152 days #9
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Question 2:

How many updates do you expect from a website? Does it depend on price, the type of site, Or does it matter as long as you know the schedule, and updates are on time? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  10:58am - 4152 days #8
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Originally Posted by Thedebilman666:


Panties, panties, and more panties, all varities


Gonna go out on a limb here, and make a wild guess that you are a fan of panties.

But is there one thing you look for when choosing a site, besides the niche. Be it price, site looks etc.? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  09:36am - 4152 days #6
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Originally Posted by Khan:


As an aside ...

You likely find much helpful info by looking back through forum threads and past poll questions. Both of which have a handy key-word search.

Thank you Khan, I have been reading through older threads, haven't looked at many polls, but will definitely do so.

Thanks very much for the info. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  09:21am - 4152 days #4
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


First niche, second pricing.

And not to worry, amateur modeling is not my niche.


Very good, thank you for the information, jberry. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  07:38am - 4152 days #2
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Question 1:

What is more important to you. Is it the content, the price, the billing company and or packages offered, or the general overall look of the site? Which will make you either not join a site, or be more inclined to do so? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  06:54am - 4152 days Original Post - #1
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Ok, not sure how many of you are aware, but I have been hijacking multiple threads with questions, hopefully most were on topic.

For those who don't know, I do run a site. I only found PU after I had created it. After looking through what members likes and dislikes are with other sites, mostly with billing, business practices, etc. I am looking at doing a full makeover. However I still have many questions, and want as much input, as possible. Not so much about content, as I am happy with the niche I am in, and don't really look to change that, but more with what customers want to see as far as billing options, content downloads, information concerning updates. Mostly everything outside of nude photos/videos of women.

I do not want anyone to think I am starting this thread to get traffic to my site. I do not even want you to visit it. And definitely do not want people joining it. This is for helpful information for me, and also, hopefully, for more website owners out there.

Feel free to comment on questions I have, or even bring up other things you would like to see, likes or dislikes, or anything else you would like us webmasters/owners to know. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  06:15am - 4152 days #47
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


You could even say in the checkout would you like a reminder and notice of special deals ?


Wonderful idea. I will have to see if that is something I can implement. Thank you sir!! Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  06:12am - 4152 days #30
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Fans of this genre will likely not be short of suggestions, both for content & method of delivery.

I think you have come to the right place to ask!

Cap'n.


That is a good thing. Coming up with new content, ideas for shoots, outfits etc. is an ongoing battle. I love when people give me input, be it the models, members, or whoever, on possible shoots.


Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Yep, but be prepared, you will get a few members wanted
a pink lizard suit wearing a cowboy hat riding a pig in the rain, why listening the Elton John and tossing feathers .


Feathers might be hard to come by. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  06:02am - 4152 days #27
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I guess I am saying it should be clear. If its says "full access" Then that means no limits.
Now often times the webmasters fear is you will pay the typical 2.95 and stay up all night stripping the site and leave. So they sneak limits ( not all but some do ).
The practice of a trial is up to the site. But I don't use trials myself usually.
I think if you read around the PU forum you will find we despise most as a group , pre-checked hidden items, and misleading advertising . Like full access when its not and bottom of the page crosschecked sales.
What I think we look for is honesty, offer what you say and say what you offer and the consumer will be there. Twistys is a popular site, with great practices. They exist because they offer exactly what they say at great price and their bottom line shows in them doing well in the economy. (MO)
( PS ya the missing bumper was in California too ok last time picking on Calif. )


One thing I have gathered in reading through not just this thread, but nearly all of them, is that more than anything, customers want honesty. If there is a limit on access, just state it. If there is no nudity in a set, say so. As long as the site is honest with you, you are satisfied. It may not be what you are looking for content wise, but at least you will not go away mad. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  05:55am - 4152 days #26
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Many site owners operate on the new wave of the future.
The consumer owes me because I offer him to spend his money.
California has to be the most fucked up Liberal state I have seen. Where you pay a tip at restaurant even if you get poor service. They tack the tip on the bill if you don't pay they call the cops. ( was born and raised there for 26 years so I can comment on how screwed up it is ) So now you take a state that allows such practices as the porn hub of America. And it all makes sense and false into place.

See Simarimas, many California based webmasters not only think they should be able to trick, manipulate and con the customer, you as the customer should embrace their arrogance and self entitlement. Remember this is a state that tells all school children we are having a contest and everyone wins attitude. The Liberal attitude in the porn capital gets everyone asking wheres mine and you owe me crap. I Obviously moved mainly because of how screwed up businesses were there. ( I WONT EVER BE BACK )
I'll by pass that state at all costs. Not to knock Liberals or California, but progressive never equals a good deal for the consumer never has never will. California's porn businesses prove that all too clear with the me, me me attitude. Sorry if the California comments offend anyone but being born and raised there gives me that privileged. And that state fully represents the worst of the porn industry and its practices. I wish there was a town hall meeting where porn connoisseurs like us could stand up and say hey that messed up.
But sadly more and more businesses justify their acts why putting their boot on the neck of the consumers, why stealing him blind. ( but wait Cybertoad tell us how you really feel LOLOL )


Perhaps that is where I am different then. Born and raised in Texas. I won't comment on California, as there is a pretty big rivalry there when it comes to politics etc. And don't want to start an argument with anyone. But I am fiscally conservative, and probably moderate on social issues.

I guess that mindset is just foreign to me. Not how I was brought up to try to screw people over. Be it for money, love, or whatever. This may be counterproductive to running an adult website, but if so, then so be it.

And I actually consider this site a town hall meeting. I think if more webmanagers would become involved here, then it would only help the industry. Unfortunately, just like a true town hall meeting, the public is ranting, but very few (politicians or webmanagers) are listening. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  05:42am - 4152 days #24
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


The reality and sadly in many websites is they fall into poor practices that is exactly what other businesses are doing world wide.
Marcus is dead on the operators are supplying less for more.
21 Sextury was one such site that pissed me off. And bordered of false advertising. They say you get XYZ, but then XYZ had areas that were extra $$$ so leading the consumer to think if you buy XYZ you get that.
I recall in the 1990's I bought a brandnew dodge truck, loaded. At check out I paid and then ask the dealer where was my rear bumper? He said oh that was extra. A trucks many talents is that it can tow. How do you tow without a bumper.
The truck appeared to be the best deal, and was sold as loaded well except the bumper .
Bof A bank tried pulling a stunt like this a few years ago too taking on hidden fees under other fees. I bought a tent awhile back. No tent stakes with it, those where extra ?
WHAT THE FUCK !!!!! Since when do tents not come with tent stakes ? In my 50 years camping never saw one without it.
Oh there are the trials that say full access, you join and find you are limited to content downloads and areas of the site. Again WHAT THE FUCK!!!!

If I pay for a site that means the site should allow access to it. Not nickle and dime my ass for every penny.
21 Sexutry will never see another dime from me, the quality was great but the site was operated in my opinion tricky and shady.


A truck with no bumper, and a tent with no stakes. That is just ridiculous, but I have to admit, it made me laugh as well.

So are you saying that in the trial period, say 3 days, there should be no restrictions on downloads of content as well? Or, if it is stated that the trial period has this restriction, is that acceptable? Not saying I am against either, just trying to get an idea of what people expect. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  05:24am - 4152 days #45
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I think reminders are fine, a site being helpful people like, a site making it difficult not so much.


Originally Posted by graymane:


I think the word "ecstatic" best fits your inquiry.
Unthinkable by most of your counterparts in this "either fish or cut bate" industry ....... Indeed, the reminder term is the most refreshing idea since sliced bread.
I personally don't think you can go wrong with that one.

However, one has to weigh the possibility of another payroll check to dole out at week's end.
Scratch the webmaster, he's already got a full plate.


Thank you both, more wonderful information. I never really considered the reminder before getting into this thread, but the more I read about the rebills, and non recurring payments, etc. I also believe that is the way to go. I always thought it would be seen as more spam, than a friendly reminder. Though I suppose that would still be in the eye of the beholder. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  05:17am - 4152 days #21
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Quite the opposite.

It is very refreshing to have a Webmanager show a genuine interest in what their potential customer needs & preferences are.

Even more so if they are prepared to act on it.

There have been others, but they are few & far between & should be actively encouraged.

Cap'n.


In any other business, a business owner must cater to the wants and needs of his clientele. And most startups will actively seek input from potential customers before ever opening the business. That is just a good business model. Why should this industry be any different?

If you must resort to scams, hidden fees, shady business practices, and things of this nature in order to make money, then you don't have much else going for you. I suppose they figure it is like illegal drugs. If I bought bad dope from a dealer, who am I going to complain to? They must think
most people aren't going to tell their friends not to go to a certain site, because they don't want it known they went there in the first place. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  05:06am - 4152 days #20
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Originally Posted by Marcus:


I think sites will begin offering more tiered-style membership, almost 'pay as you go' whereby you can tailor what you see, but it will inevitably be at your cost. The user thinks they're getting extra, but they're just paying more for what they've always had. It's all about the upsell.

I think this will be an extension of things like exclusive zipsets etc, and it wouldn't surprise me if sites introduce more options like ability to download, access to extra/bonus sets etc for extra money.

I'm almost reticent about posting this because it probably gives webmasters bad ideas. I would not be happy with this, and already see it happening to a certain extent at sites like Pattycake where she's willing to do hotter stuff, but even as a member you have to pay extra for her zipsets.

I also think you'll get more things like Evil Angel not allowing downloads of newer content etc, trying to keep you a member for as long as possible. Same with Pattycake's site where updates are split across several months, limited time updates etc.


So there are sites that show only some content to paying customers? Even though the content is available to others? If find that to be very shady, at best, and borderline criminal. Do they state this practice anywhere on the site before joining?

I know I have joined a few sites that had this during the trial period, and even that upset me so much I cancelled before the trial was over, but at least I could make an argument for that. But if I am paying full price for the content, and it isn't available, upset doesn't come close to how I would feel.

I do have another question, I know, you are all shocked! Haha. If zips of the content was only available to full paying members, and not available during the trial period, How would you feel about that? So all the content is visible, but with no ability to download it, or have access to the zips. Is that acceptable?

Thanks again, and thank you Marcus for more great information. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  04:56am - 4152 days #19
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Sir..... do you see the icon of a flame at the thread title's beginning?
assuming its still there at this reading, then let me explain:
That, figuratively speaking, means this thread's on fire. And it appears because of the overriding response its getting and the interest its generating.
And the flame is there for none other than your presence to this forum. And the amazing thing about this is we haven't had but three people involved. I count this icon a supreme honor because there're very rare. And I believe this one is my first. So thanks for making this possible.

I am disappointed (although its early) that not more of our regulars haven't tuned in and seized on this opportunity to vent some of their concerns. My fervent hope is that this will be forthcoming.
Barring that, I'd suggest you not becoming a stranger to our forum. Stay tuned in, read our reviews and feel free to contribute, draw from, or simply revel in anything pertinent to the added success of your website.


I actually did see the flame when I posted earlier. Really didn't think anything of it, until you mentioned it. I figured it was fairly common. Though I doubt very seriously it had anything to do with me. It is the fact that you and the others at PU are very responsive, and genuinely helpful, in your posts.

I would also love to get more input on this, as everything I can learn, good and bad, will help.

Thank you though, once again, for the very kind words. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-23-13  06:41pm - 4152 days #42
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For the non recurring billing cycles, would you be appreciative, or annoyed, by a reminder email, that the subscription is about to expire? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-23-13  06:38pm - 4152 days #12
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Thanks for the info CT. At the moment I do put the name of the model on each photo on the site. Always in a place that does not cover the model in any way. I actually don't use the site name in the watermarks, because it is about the model, not me.

Me, a trend setter? I don't know if I can live up to that, hahaha.

Well I am not only willing to listen to any and all ideas, I crave them. So feel free to overwhelm me with them.

And once more, I am truly humbled. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-23-13  06:31pm - 4152 days #11
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Damned, Simarimas ..... are you for real?
Never, in all my treks from and throughout my inception into this entertainingly unconquerable and indomitable site have I encountered such a sought-after gem as one representing your membership within the webmaster domain.

The fact that you actually inquire and actively seek help from us in my mind is flat mind-blowing.
And further, that you're actually going to initiate much of what we're ranting about into your system ...is nothing short of a visitation into porn-lover's Nirvana.

Don't think for a minute your questions in these threads are a problem and/or it becomes annoying.
Nothing could be further from the truth.

Here! sit at the head of our table, make yourself right at home and announce what you have to offer ... although we know you can't please everyone or placate every niche, but ideally Porn users will certainly make you glad you came for dinner.


I must say sir, your words and the praise you heap upon me have me blushing. I actually had to show my wife what you wrote.

It also saddens me that it is apparently a rare thing to have a webmaster/siteowner actually care what his customers, or potential customers, think and is willing to address their concerns. I don't think I could do it any other way. While I, of course, would like to be a huge success, and makes boat loads of money, I would much rather have a small niche site that had a few loyal customers, if it meant becoming an insensitive heal who only saw the bottom line.

I have no need to be at the head of the table, just a seat where I can be involved is more than enough.

Finally, just remember, you asked for it! Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-23-13  05:27pm - 4152 days #7
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Perfect information, thank you CT (if you don't mind me shortening that) Exactly what I wanted to know.

One other thing, do these sites offer the zips at a price to non-members? Also, are the zipped pics watermarked? Would a clear watermark across the image be too annoying?

Thanks again. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

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