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08-23-13  05:05pm - 4150 days #5
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Once again I have received some unknown insight.

I truly hope my incessant questions in these threads is not a problem. If it becomes annoying, please let me know.

Graymane, you mention the difficulty in finding the cancel page. I know with my billing provider, it is as easy as going to their site to cancel, however I do not think I have a link for that, but that will change directly. Would it also be helpful to handle cancellations myself? I know I have had a member contact me about wanting to cancel, and while I gave the information to my billing company, I told him I would be happy to handle the cancellation myself. Is this an acceptable practice? Or would you rather perform the cancellation yourself?

Cybertoad, I am glad to hear about this about the zipped files, something I had wondered about. Whether that was a real need, or just a convenience. But from what I have read around PU, I think it is a necessity now. Do the sites you frequent, that do offer zips, offer them to members free, or are these charged for? And are they just of the set, or do they offer exclusive extra pics in the zip> Again, just curious.

Finally, biker. Do you mean by dated updates, that the date the update was added is shown? Or that they are updating regularly?

Thanks again for the information everyone. And once again, please say something if my questions and/or posts are annoying. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-23-13  02:12pm - 4151 days #39
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Well thank you sir, but the pleasure is mine. I only wish I had become involved on the forums sooner. I never expected to find as nice, helpul, or informative a group as is here.

After thinking on this I believe I may offer both options. Nothing wrong with options.

I do see a substantial site modification in my near future, from all the information I have gotten from PU.

Cheers to you, and all of PU. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-23-13  04:33am - 4151 days #36
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Message received, thank you for the input sir.

Would it be best practice then to have 3 levels of billing? One month, at the normal rate, 3 months at a slightly reduced rate, and 6 months at a lower rate still, all non recurring? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-22-13  05:29pm - 4151 days #34
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Went through this thread, and got me thinking quite a bit.

I currently have rebill on my site. It is necessary because I offer a trial period, and in order to do so, rebill is the only way the trial works.

Which is preferable? The trial period, or no rebill?


I do have the ability to send out an email to subscribers a week before as a reminder, that they are about to be billed. Would this be an acceptable solution? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-22-13  03:50pm - 4151 days #26
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Graymane, I did check out Ella last night. I do see what you mean. Very sexy. I have one new model for sure who I know could be great with the costuming sets, and a few others who, given a bit of time, are candidates. Thanks again for the information.

I agree about Heff. The guy took a huge leap, at a time when it probably shouldn't have worked. Well before his time. He opened the door for Flynt and the others. Without Heff, they would never have been able to do what they did.

While I was never a huge Playboy reader, some of the articles were interesting, most I couldn't care less about, I think the reasoning behind having all the articles was to make it more mainstream, instead of just a naked womens mag. That was his genius. He made it acceptable. And the rest is history. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-21-13  08:37pm - 4152 days #59
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Cybertoad, I guess that is definitely an indictment on the industry, which is very sad. I surely hope someone kicks me in the nuts if I ever become so jaded that I don't listen to my audience.

Graymane, answered you in the other thread you posted in, but thanks again for the advice. It is more helpful than you can know. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-21-13  08:34pm - 4152 days #21
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Thank you Graymane. I will definitely check out Ella, probably spend the evening doing so.

I cannot express my gratitude to the members here, you are all very kind, polite, and very helpful and the input is invaluable to me. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-21-13  05:22pm - 4152 days #56
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Reading through this post, I have a question for everyone. Have you contacted site owners with these thoughts? Given suggestions to them for shoots? Not criticizing, just sincerely curious.

There is something to the same old same old problem. I find myself thinking the same thing when I am doing shoots with my models. We do different outfits every shoot, but it becomes very difficult to find new poses, come up with new ideas for shoots, etc. I know personally, I would LOVE to get input from people on what they want to see us do on the site. Granted I have a small budget, so some things may not be doable as far as settings go, but I would definitely do everything possible to make them work.

Most websites may not look for input on content, I am not sure about that, as I am not your typical adult website guy, I am a regular guy doing the site, so I am outside those circles. But I couldn't imagine not taking my fans, and customers, thoughts to heart. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-21-13  04:55pm - 4152 days #19
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Originally Posted by diip:




While making my own project I am thinking a lot about end user and his role. Designing concepts, features, making plans... But time to time some questions are crashing my head... No one would like to advertise me if I put very small entrance fee. You know, that even total crap could be sold with expensive promotional campaign. But if I am putting all my savings in development, I have no enough resources to promote myself (it is a common problem of those who do)... So, how and where could I get my faithful customers? How they react on my very first ugly steps? Roughly speaking, customers should nurse me first... and be pretty tolerate. Why they have to like my beginning and participate if there are so much mega sites around? Now tell me, how much people that are surfing for free or paid porn willing not to get instant access to tons of screaming content but to invest in the future of the "new community"? How much people were deceived before big projects were small? Howbeit, I am repeating to myself again and again: "Just move forward, just create... and do not pay attention to the naysayers."

I put my revelations here just for illustration of another side. And if you are looking for porn, you are ending up with a "porn". As clever customer is not very welcomed to this industry, as another side projects are not very popular to promote...


diip, thank you for this.

I do all the work on my site, from creating it, running it, photography, finding new girls to model, everything. I have recently hired a woman to do advertising, as I do not have the time, but again it is self promotion. I have no budget for full on purchased advertising. So, what I am focusing on is making the site as user friendly, and as open to suggestions as I possibly can, in hopes that the site becomes at least popular with enough people to keep us going.

I am not looking to making a fortune with the site, hell if I can just make enough to recoup my investments and keep paying the models, and keep the site running I will be ecstatic. Not nearly there yet, hahaha. But this is something I love doing, and won't give up on it until I have to, and that isn't anytime soon. It is hard work, I have a full time day job and do the website on evenings and weekends, but again, it is something I love doing.

I have no delusions of ever becoming a millionaire doing the site, I don't, and won't, have the type of content that most porn sites sell. But, I do hope I can fill a niche that is lacking, and if it means we just limp along, then I am fine with that. I am more concerned with making something I am proud of.

On another note, I find it sad that so many porn producers have the reputation of being assholes, and so disrespectful of the models. I don't think I could ever be that way personally. I actually give a damn about the girls I shoot, and become friends with them. But then again, I do not consider myself a pornographer, nor do I consider what we do porn, so that may be the difference there.

Sorry for rambling, when I get started, I have a difficult time stopping. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site Edited on Aug 21, 2013, 05:01pm

08-21-13  04:27pm - 4152 days #24
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I agree completely on the airbrushing. I have never liked the fake looking women. Have always been much more attracted to a real woman, the girl next door type. It makes the fantasy more real to me.

I did do a lot of airbrushing for one of our models in one set. Didn't really like it, though she loved it. But I have since cut down on the airbrushing. I do have a couple of girls with tats that they do not want to show, so I do remove those, but I do not do full body airbrushing. My personal opinion is every woman is beautiful, and sexy comes from within, and attitude, much more than from looks.

I am a fan of both video and photos, though not a big hardcore fan of either. I like the tease, and would rather see a striptease video. I have found a few videos from a czech site that has girls doing lap dances, starting clothed and stripping. They often end with a blowjob, or handjob That is more to my taste. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site Edited on Aug 21, 2013, 04:30pm

08-21-13  11:35am - 4153 days #259
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Hello cyberToad. I understand the confusion. The site started out as a cam site. Due to many issues, and being unable to justify keeping it going as such, I completely wiped the site and started over with a new format. That was about a year ago. Since that time I have redone the site as an amateur/glamour/tease modeling site. At this point there are no webcams on the site, though a couple of my models have mentioned wanting to have a weekly cam show for members of the site. That is something I am considering, but at this point it is mostly photographic modeling with some videos. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-21-13  10:05am - 4153 days #257
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Thank you Khan, very kind of you. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-21-13  09:15am - 4153 days #255
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Thank you for the kind words Capn. Yes the site is still fairly new in this format. I believe I have around 80 sets posted on the site averaging around 50 photos per set and with a few videos,something I want to do more of. I update 3 new sets a week. We have just now begun advertising the site, as I wanted to be sure there was enough content online.first.

I read through some of the earlier posts and noticed you had mentioned zips. Is this something we should add to the site? Anf if so, would you be looking for the same photos that are posted in the members area? Or would we need to have extra photos from the set included in the zip?

May I ask how you felt the site flows? Was it easy to navigate? Anything you would prefer to see changed?

I appreciate any feedback as I would like to make the site as good as I possinly can. I also think this is a niche that has been pushed to the side. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-20-13  08:20pm - 4153 days #251
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Thanks Capn, hope we are more what you are searching for.

I am looking forward to hear what you think, and open to any suggestions to make the site better. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-20-13  03:35pm - 4153 days #249
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I am coming late into this thread. I read a few of the posts.

You may remember me from posting about a webcam site a little over a year ago. Well, that turned out to be more trouble than it was worth, and almost impossible to compete with the big boys...

So, we have changed the site, and are doing just tease modeling. Basically exactly what you are talking about here. Most of the sets start fully clothed, or lingerie. Some start nude, but they are covered or implied. I have always found the tease to be the most exciting part.

I built the site myself, so it is not as 'professional' looking as some of the bigger ones, but it is easy to get around on, and every set has a preview of a dozen photos.

We have quite a few models of every look, and size, and are always adding more. The site is updated 3 times a week with a new set. Nearly all of the models are first timers, with a few who have done some basic modeling before, but all but 1 of them you won't see anywhere else.

Any thoughts, criticisms or suggestions are very welcome

Thanks Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site Edited by Staff on Aug 20, 2013, 08:34pm (Khan: URL Removed)

02-12-12  06:18am - 4709 days #24
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Yes Bubba, it is a sticky situation, in figuring out how to do it. But again, I think it may be worth trying at the very least.

Thanks for the input Elephant, I appreciate it. I do think it would attract many more members, such as yourself. What would you think about having a certain amount of 1 on 1 minutes each month for your membership fee, with the ability to purchase more if needed? And different levels of membership with more minutes available monthly, and a larger discount on the credits you purchased, if you chose to do so? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

02-11-12  06:49am - 4710 days #21
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Originally Posted by BubbaGump:




IMO, an a la carte menu would be more fair. Have a flat rate for a private show with tips as an option. Want to see boobs? Here's the price. Want to see me play for five minutes? Here's the price for that. The model would want to deliver a good show because she wants the tip at the end. If a customer feels they didn't get good service, they won't tip.

If the cam business wants to grow a customer base, the only way to do that is to give the supplier less control over the transaction and make things more equitable. The way the per-minute fees are priced is absurd, IMO. They saw you coming.


I appreciate these thoughts Bubba, and to a point agree with them. However, in the same way as earning the tip, for many camsites, repeat business is a must. So if a model does take too long, or is not giving the customer what he wants, he won't come back for a second show. Most, not all, models are aware of this, and so try to give the best show possible. Regular customers are a cam models staple. Also, the customer can end the chat at any time, so if the model is not giving what you want, bail out.

And, in your scenario, some of this can be done for tips, in free chat. If you want to see boobs, ask the model what it would cost to see them, If you want more, ask, they will give you a price for that up front. On some of the larger sites, not mine, the girls will masturbate in public free chat for tips.

As with anything, there is a risk involved. I am sure you have purchased a video from a site, expecting something it did not deliver. And odds are, you did not give that site return business. Same thing.

And Pat, I agree, there may be a market there, and I am looking into it. There are many hurdles to something like that, but then there always are. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

02-09-12  11:40pm - 4711 days #18
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Actually Pat, that is how most sites work these days anyway. You get to see the model on cam for free, or with a free registration, then pay for the 'personal' time. Some models show nothing in free chat, while others will tease, or strip, for tips, while on some sites, for tips they will do full masturbation, it depends on the site, and the girl.

Thanks for the input, I really appreciate it. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

02-05-12  12:51pm - 4716 days #16
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Originally Posted by BubbaGump:



I think the personality of the model is also very important. She may be the best looking one on a site, but if she doesn't come across as personable and friendly, etc...the fantasy is lost. We all know this type--very pretty and sexy but has the personality of a snail. Personality can be more sexy than looks. At least to me.


I could not agree more with this statement Bubba. I have known too many HOT girls, who I would not take to a private chat on a bet, due to the personality.

Thanks for the other thoughts on the chat message feature, etc. That is exactly what I was thinking myself. Have 'free' cams where the girl just has her photo, but the chat is open. We actually have this now. We also do the weekly shows for free now with some of the girls. But this helps alot with knowing what people are looking for out there. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

02-05-12  11:12am - 4716 days #14
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Thank you very much for the input Bubba. Our site is strictly webcam, the models do create photos, and videos, for their profiles, but it is all about the webcams, as is all content. So the subscription, if we went that way, would be exclusively for access to the web cams, and any 'private' photos or videos created by the models.

You are correct about the main attraction of these sites in general. It is all about the interaction. Yes, there is a sexual element to it, but the online girlfriend is very accurate. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

02-05-12  10:35am - 4716 days #12
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Yes, Bubba, and Pat, it can get very expensive, very quickly. And, that is why the cam community is hard pressed for paying members.

I actually just spoke with one of our most popular models about the idea of a monthly fee site. She was actually open to the idea of a monthly salary. I am going to look into this more. It may fill a void that has been opened.

I do have a question for those who are in this thread, and especially for Bastard100. If there was a monthly charge, that got you a certain amount of time for private chats per month, would that be enough, with the ability to purchase more? Or would you expect unlimited private chat time with each model?

Thanks for any responses to the questions. I hope I am not out of bounds for asking them. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

02-05-12  09:07am - 4716 days #8
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I would personally do a flat rate site, if I could find the models willing to work for a salary. I would actually like to have a steady monthly income from memberships. Actually, this has piqued my interest, I am going to look into this further.

I do understand where you are coming from Pat, about cams not appealing to you. They are a completely different niche from what you are looking for. The cam community is more about having a relationship with the model on cam. Feeling, whether justified or not, that you have a personal tie to the model. Also, it is live, as opposed to a video you are watching. You have at least some control over the action that is taking place on camera, not just watching from the sidelines. It is much more personal.

I myself enjoy both types of porn. I am a member of several sites myself, and also frequented cam sites before starting my own.

By the way, I also wanted to comment on your signature Pat. Still the best show ever on TV! Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site Edited on Feb 05, 2012, 09:28am

02-05-12  07:58am - 4716 days #6
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I did a ton of research before starting our site. There just aren't any of these sites out there anymore, other than, as Pat362 and PinkPanther stated, the web models sites, where they have weekly cam shows. But even these are getting less frequent.

The biggest part of the issue, is finding the models who are willing to work for non-commission. Commission, with perhaps an hourly or base pay, has become industry norm for webcam work. So I wouldn't expect to see that type of webcam site in the future, but then again, stranger things have happened. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

02-05-12  07:47am - 4716 days #6
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I have had this happen to me also, a few times. I actually appreciate that they do this.

I have also, as I stated in another thread, had my account blocked from any online activity at all, including checking my account online, until I called and reverified everything and set up new passwords.

I was a bit miffed by this at first, but as soon as I started through the process, and found out someone had attempted to access my account from another country, I was really happy they had done it. A minor inconvenience for me, that perhaps saved me alot of money. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

02-05-12  07:20am - 4716 days #12
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I have had issues in the past myself with false charges, and very recently had my bank account blocked from any online activity by the bank. I don't think was from a porn site, but rather somewhere else. But someone tried to access my account from out of the country, and the bank shut it down.

I have always used a different bank card myself for internet purchases. My personal bank offers a separate account, just for online purchases, that you can transfer money into just as you need to use it. This has been very useful for me in doing most anything around the 'net.

I hope you are able to come up with either a pre-paid card or other means. It seems from reading your original post that you will miss online porn a great deal. Good luck Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

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