Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Exclusive content of TS models featuring full solo masturbation.
- A good mix of ethnicities as far as white, ebony, and latinas go. Small asian mix.
- Updates are alright at 2 new scenes a week plus an old video is remastered.
- Newer video scenes are available in full scene downloads while older ones are only available in clips. New videos are in WMV format at 796 X 488, ~1,500 kbps. MPEG and MOV format available for most older movies. There are varying resolutions and bitrates with older videos, 640 X 480 or lower with average of 1,500 kbps.
- There are photo shoots and video stills available, 1200 X 800 is the highest I've seen. Most are smaller. They are not large sets but are available in zip format.
- Model Index which displays models A-Z plus the extra sites content as well. This includes a small mix of BJ scenes, hardcore, and domination.
- There is forum for input but it's outdated. However, it is active.
- Upcoming updates are shown in advance.
- Fair price.
Cons:
- Site design is just downright amateur. While it's easy to navigate, it just looks bad. After all this time the site has been around, I'm surprised that the owner has not hired a designer to help out in this.
- Site updates are not dated. Would be nice to see dated updates for the new ones and ones to come.
- This is a video site, while photo sets are offered, they are extremely lacking in both size, value, and content.
- Bonus sites are listed as seperate sites but these are just different sites with the same content found on the main Shemale Strokers page. Meaning, all the content within these 'bonus' sites can be found on the main site.
- While the videos vary in appearance, even the newest ones could be better in terms of quality of clarity. These are some of the best shot videos I've seen, but the actual clarity should be better this day and age.
- Older videos are only available in clips.
Bottom Line:
Shemale Strokers is shot and maintained by videographer Sammy Mancini. He provides great technical camera work and often brings some innovativeness to solo masturbation scenes that can get stale quickly. While you do get quite a few videos of models that appear to be doing the scene as 'just another day at the job', there are so many extremely sexy scenes which makes the site a wonder.
The innovativeness that is brought to the forefront can usually be seen in the ending cumshot. While the majority of sites with solo masturbation usually just have the model cum on their stomach and on to the floor, Sammy usually finds great ways to change this up. For example, the models will usually cum on their stomach but he also provides footage of them cumming in to their hand, on to mirrors, on to black surfaces, and even on their own faces. Plus, he even did some scenes where when the model cums, you get a shot of the cumshot with a look at their face as well in split screen to see how much the models were in ecstacy. It's these crafty shots that make the site so wonderful in my opinion.
While the actual location of the scenes are pretty much standard being a bed or a couch. It's quite obvious Sammy travels to the locations to get the footage. So, I'd say plenty are within the models' own home which I think may create a comfort which leads to extremely hot scenes. The scenes usually start with a short interview, undress, then masturbation to cumshot. Just like most standard solo masturbation sites (including sites with models that are genetical women as well), you do get the models that lay there with no emotion. However, in all honesty, I'd say the majority here are quite in to the scenes. You can truly feel some passion and tell they were quite horny during the scenes.
The make-up and dress is usually quite casual in manner. There is not an extreme amount of glamour within the scenes with a decent amount of make-up (which is to be expected in TS sites). But, nothing too overboard. All-in-all, I see these videos as Sammy going to the models house and them dressed as they would to go out shopping or to the mall. It's actually quite refreshing to see this attire when it comes to TS models because a lot of sites like to glamourize their TS shoots.
The actual models are mostly North American but Sammy provides a lot of variance. Another refreshing aspect is the fact that a lot of Ebony TS models are represented here which I don't get to see very much unless wanting to join a specialized ebony TS Site. Overall, there is a great mix to the model index in terms of ethnicties.
Overall, the site is a winner. Unfortunantly, the actual clarity of the footage provided is what is holding the site back from being in the 90's for me. While the videos are not entirely bad and I found only a selected few to be unwatchable, they are just not up to date in the standards. But, the camera work is beautiful and the reformatted ones look better. Recommended.
Current Member for over 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Exclusive Content.
- No DRM Protection.
- Mostly South American models that vary in fame, you get your favs and some newbies.
- Great, high def movies available in WMV and MPG format plus streaming. (WMV High Def at 1280 x 720, 5088 kbps) (MPGS at 848 x 480 and 544 x 304) (Streams at 848 X 480).
- Good, crisp pictures available in two formats and in zips for easy downloads (1360 X 913 and 850 X 571).
- Free Bonus loyalty sites (up to 4 others) after one month of being a member that are all shemale orientated.
- Simple design with easy navigation.
- Bonus movies and picture sets that are not exclusive to this site.
- A few interviews and behind the scenes movies available for download as seperate files from the other movies.
- Average active forum.
- Model Index and search functions with 44 different tag categories.
- Updates come often at every friday, weekly and are full strip to masterbation videos.
Cons:
- Picture sets are just accompyning shoots that are almost identical to the video scenes (same outfits and locations).
- The photographer has a food fetish thing going on (more in bottom line).
- While being masterbation scenes, the variance is non existant and can get a bit repetitive.
- 3-4 GB Download limit that's quite erratic (more in bottom line).
Bottom Line:
This site offers known and up n' coming shemale models with solo masterbation scenes and sets. It is very similar in format to the other SheMax (company) sites when it comes to design and layout. The design is bright and pleasant which provides very easy navigation to find and get all the content. However, getting the content is a bit of a burden. While there is a download limit at a suppossed 4 GB which is not provided in writing anywhere (info came from customer service), the limit is not on a 24 hour schedule. I don't know when they reset the limit, but I have downloaded again before and after my 24 limit happened and all types of different sizes of data. So, some days I can download like 3.9 GB, wait 24 hours, and can only download like 2.5 GB. It's a strange and frustrating thing and I really dislike it.
Now, while getting the content is a bit of a quirk, what you are getting is quite well. The videos are in a great bitrate and res with some above average camera work. There is no chitter chatter or intervention between the camera man and model which is great news. There are quality long shots and close ups. The scenes start with the model clothed, a strip tease, then masterbation till cumshot (unless otherwise stated). However, the photographer really likes the models to play with all kinds of food. So, expect a lot of chocolate slathered on them, playing with veggies, fruit, and so on. Not every scene is like this, but a lot are and this stuff is just stupid to me. I do like interaction with props in solo masterbation scenes, but the food thing gets a bit redundant. The locations and the outfits do vary a bit with showers, outside areas, to the classic bed. But, being a masterbation site, the content can get a bit repetitive because nothing quite new is being done here from the other sites (besides a lot of food play). So, the format will rarely switch up but I suppose you do know what you are getting every Friday, right? There are quite a bit of videos at 105 at the time of this review.
The picture sets are well done but like most sites, are just accompyning shoots that are almost identical to the video scenes. Being in a decent size and quality, they would be a superior section if they could switch it up a bit. But, they do come in easy zip format with 2 options. Since they accompany the videos, they are the same at 105 sets at the time of this review.
The bonus stuff is well enough. While you get 13 interviews and 6 behind the scenes, they are whatever in my opinion. The Behind the scenes are bout 1-2 minutes long and include bloopers or extra footage while the interviews are short as well, averaging 2 minutes long. However, they do have extra non exclusive movies and photo sets. There are 6 movies that are primarily solo scenes and 183 photo sets of individual models.
This site is an adequete price with TBP discount for a month's stay. You do get more sites the longer you stay and they are quite good. I'd recommend it.
These are North American TS models. This company, Grooby, has a site specializing in ladyboys called Ladyboy Ladyboy. However, I have not joined this site yet. Hope this helps.
Honestly pat362, if there is even one video like this, I missed it. So, that basically means there is little to none of that on this site. Basically, maybe less than 5. This site, while featuring hardcore, is mostly a solo site. When there is a hardcore update, it it usually male/TS content or TS/TS content. The TS on female content is kind of hard to find. It's basically on most TS sites featuring hardcore but in the extreme minority. And out of the sites I've been to that features hardcore, I can't even point you in the direction. However, I do remember some DVD's which I think were called, "females on shemales" which featured this, I think they were up in to dozens about a year ago. I know a site, Shemale Club has quite a bit of hardcore footage, maybe a quick email to customer service could help you out. It's been quite awhile since I've been to that site and my archives of that site are actually somewhere on burned DVD's. Hope any of this helps.
lol about the webmaster response. But, I suppose some response is better than none. No matter how stubborn he may be, as you said I believe I was quite fair and I took all the discussions between him and I into account when writing this. Hell, it's even better than the new 2.0 review from TBP. I believe between your review and mine, everyone can get an understanding as to what they get from the site. Thanks for the response and positive feedback, james4096!
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Exclusive Content of mostly North American tranny content involved in posing, masturbation, and hardcore action.
- No DRM protection.
- Updates weekly with 7 new photosets and/or video shoots. These updates occur on one day.
- Photo shoots available in zip format and range in res, from 1280 to 720 or lower.
- Videos range in formats by years with the newest vids only available in WMV. Newest vids are around 720 X 480, ~2000 kbps. Older ones steadily go down in quality ranging from 640 X 480, ~2000 kbps to 360 X 240, ~800 kbps. The older videos range from AVI, Real Media, and WMV formats.
- Extensive amount of content dating back from even 1999, but the majority of the content occurs from 2003 to present.
- A nice ranking system to view favorites of others and yourself. Plus a 'My Portfolio' section to add models you love for easy access.
- Pretty active forum for discussion.
- Comics section that gets updated often.
- Search feature with accurate tags and plenty of them.
Cons:
- Obviously, since the library is extensive, the actual visual quality of the older content may be lower. What's in the footage is still good, but not the clarity.
- While the photography is done extremely well with quality photographers, the actual resolution should be higher for a company doing this for this long.
- Updates are done a bit different than other sites, varying between strip teases, masturbation, masturbation with a cum shot, and hardcore action. The only quirk I have personally is the fact that not all solo shoots end in a cum shot or an attempt (obviously some models cannot cum due to hormones). Usually, when a solo scene in shemale content is done, it is a full strip to masturbation with cumshot shoot. Just takes a bit of getting used to.
- The price is a bit high for the content, at $35 for it. However, there is a ticket system that can be used to lower prices for all grooby sites. The info is posted by me in the comments section of this site.
Bottom Line:
Shemale Yum has been around for years and clearly prides themselves for shooting an extensive amount of shemale content and models. Boasting over 1,100 models with mostly all of these models doing photo and video shoots, the site has an extremely large collection of content. The site features many models first that have gone on to become the huge superstars of tomorrow but also shoot amateurs or just models who want to do one or two shoots only. All-in-all, expect some of the largest amount of shemale content if you join.
Remember, the vast amount of content does come with a bit of a loss. Meaning, both the picture and video clarity will be going down year by year. Plus, the videos will only be available in clips at about anything pre-2006 which is a lot of content. However, the content within the videos are quite well done. While being a bit unconventional in updating in my opinion, it does create a range of different visuals to observe. The visuals will vary between shoots usually and are mostly well done in terms of professionlism. Overall, the videos are done well but my largest quirk is chitter chatter between the camera man and the model, sexual acts done between the camera man and the model, and a lack of total cumshots per model. Don't get me wrong, most of the models do cum eventually in updates, but having 4-5 different shoots with only one shoot resulting in a cumshot can be a burden for some.
The photography is very well done in terms of lighting, differences of outfits, and locations. While they could be a bit bigger this day and age, I think some photographers are better than others while some of their staff are better videographers. The watermark is done well and non-intrusive while the poses vary from one picture to the other quite well. Overall, they are not extremely repetitious and look quite well.
The structure of the site is well made with plenty of options to help the overall experience. Navigation is easy and there are a bunch of extras to read. Models have some descriptions and updates on what they are doing nowadays, there are blogs, and an active forum. In addition to the forum, there is a live chat program for communication between the photographers and members. Plus, I'd say customer service for grooby is great.
The site is obviously doing more things right than wrong. But, I cannot give a score in the 90's for a few reasons. First, the update scheme. While others may not mind this, I found a large portion of the videos to be downloaded but fast forwarded through. Second, the chitter chatter in older videos. Third, the picture res should get higher. Fourth, why are the videos not at 1280 X 720 or higher yet? However, there are great things within this site. I love that the site does bring back older models and you can see the transition in to beauty. With the extensive amount of content in both the photos and videos added with a huge model list only seen on this site, I'd recommend this site to everyone.
I just want to give a follow up to anyone that may be interested in hearing the results.
It appears the customer service set-up was messed up on Grooby's end with failing messages back to yahoo accounts. However, once they realized this, they immediately created an email service that works with yahoo and promptly gave me my access. Plus, due to what I would call a minor set back due to timing, they even gave me 2 weeks longer access because of the problem. Therefore, I highly trust the company when it comes to customer satisfaction and the tickets are definitely worth it in my opinion.
I have emailed customer service twice thus far with no response as of yet. I purchased the bronze plan for 5 tickets and I am trying to use one ticket to gain access to the shemale yum site. It has been about 4 days since my initial email. So far, I don't find it excellent nor regular communication thus far, I would expect maybe a 24 hour wait or a 48 hour wait at max. 72 hours plus appears to be quite slow in my opinion.
Anyways, you appear to want to help so what steps should I take next? I have emailed customerservice@grooby.com twice and followed the necessary steps to get a ticket activated but still no response. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
After posting a comment about the tickets, I forgot that customer service needs to be contacted to activate a ticket. And well, customer service was contacted about activating a ticket several days ago and I have yet to get a response. So, let's see how long I have to wait and I will give an update as to how long it takes. That is if this even works. I hope this does not end up turning ugly and having to attempt to get my money back...
Of course, buying a long term plan is bad for any site in terms of not liking the site, isn't it? These tickets just provide a means to join each site or one site for a lot cheaper because Grooby hardly ever strays away from $35 a month for one of their sites (unless new, then they give a discount for about 1-2 months). As far as updating goes, I believe this company is one, if not the longest running company ever for shemale content and I really don't see them to stop updating any time soon. But, you never know.
Yeah, I really wish they made something like a cubic zirconia plan which was cheaper than the other plans, it really took a lot of indecision to come up wit the go ahead to actual fork over $125. But, I really did want to check out shemale yum and re-join shemale japan so I figured that at the least, I can join these two sites again down the road with the tickets to get updates after a few months.
I don't know how many are aware that this company, Grooby, provides discounted tickets for purchase which lowers the cost of these sites profoundly. Here is how it works:
There are three plans that give you discounts which offers a certain number of 'tickets' which allows you to join their wide variety of sites at any time for a one month non-recurring membership. These tickets have no time limit as far as when you can use a ticket for a site. They are purchased as a flat rate price with a certain amount of tickets which go down in price per site as you pay more. I just purchased the bronze plan which gives 5 tickets at $25 per site, which is $10 off each site than the usual price if just joining for a month, recurring or non-recurring. They can be purchased through CCBill or other ways and all you do is email support and tell them which site you want to use a ticket for with your username and password, then they give you access.
After a few talks with the webmaster I don't think he wants to change anything and feels that his way of updating are what the majority of people want. However, I think the place would get even more pleased members if they did full length updates, even if it was one a week. Maybe two since models from South America and Thailand are more easier to get (therefore their south american/american and thai targeted sites could be two a week with full videos) but keep the Shemale Japan site at one a week because it is harder to get models. I like the shemale japan site and can account for the site doing a great job as far as getting legit japanese models and displaying them because getting TS DVDs from Japan are like $40-$60 a pop (in US currency) and you can get a wide range of scenes for the same price on their site. However, the webmaster states that his members like this way of updating and believes that our way of thinking may be in the minority. I'm all for having one full strip and masterbation scene, one whole blowjob scene, or one whole hardcore scene instead of like 3-4 updates of each of these scenes. I think the hardcore shoots were always one full updated video from I remember, so that's done right if I am correct in my assumption. I have never been a member of shemalestrokers, I have a few of his DVD's and found he does good camera work. It is on my list to join. Nice sharing ideas and thoughts with you and welcome to PU as a fellow TS lover that are too rare around here :)
The review is not bad at all and well founded. That's why this place is here: to provide useful info from users to get a better outlook and discussions on sites that we love or hate. These are your opinions and I agree with them on the most part. This company (grooby) does provide great sites in this small and great niche (TS) but I have always thought their updating policy was by far not the best approach. Thanks for your thoughts and review, hope you can provide some more in the future.
I have to agree with your points 100%. I am not a fan of places that goes with the quantity of quality aspect. The breaking up of videos can be a burden when you are waiting for updates because it appears I am in the same boat as you when it comes to cumshots, waiting stinks. It appears this system works for some and since the site has been around so much, there must be a lot of cumming content but I do feel your pain when it comes to how they update. Stripping updates just don't do it for me personally and I believe you feel the same way too.
Overall, good start and welcome to PU. I look forward to your other reviews.
Seanchai,
I didn't want anything to get heated and I'm happy that you have been very informative plus relaxed with some of my comments. I believe that my main quirk with that updating was the fact that shemale japan was so new (which I should have taken this in to account a lot more now), that that kind of updating was a let down at that time. However, I see now that as the site grows and gets a lot more content (like this site, shemale yum) that updating like that can be fantastic because it constantly brings in new scenes for everyone to enjoy and be satisfied. Therefore, since that site was new, the amount of actual masterbation scenes with cumshots (I'm talking strictly masterbation solo scenes) were not much because the site was new and I really wanted to see them all. And yes, you are right about most other solo transsexual sites, they only get updated once or twice a week (which I don't mind personally), so you don't get as much content but a full long masterbation scene. While being a member of about 6 sites like this before, then joining that one with a different format, I think I just didn't understand the reality of what the site was doing but was so used to these other formats that I knew. Therefore, I take fault at this and know as the site gets bigger like shemale yum, this will be less of a quirk (for me personally) because you still get a VERY LARGE amount of masterbation with cumshot scenes because the site is updating constantly. I'm going to take my review off from this site for shemale japan now and do another review when I rejoin (cause I know I will, I do like the site) with a better positive attitude in mind that I know what's going on. Thanks for the responses and positive feedback.
No doubt they have some great content. I have seen some great models from Grooby and they do some awesome things. They are a bit pricey in my opinion, but for good shemale content I've noticed the better sites are higher priced. Plus, I know grooby does update their sites so much and never lets anyone down in new content. I am not knocking down this site or their others personally, but I think the way of doing the updating of content downright quirks me. Waiting for an update or a new model or a new one coming back, watching it, get really in to the scene with the model in a great costume plus masterbating or toying/being toyed, then stop with no climax just kills a video for me :( As you said, you like some of those videos and I find that great, but to me when that happens the video's content goes down the drain. But, the scenes are usually great quality and the models are top of the line (that's why I think it sucks when this happens). Now that I think of it and getting more information from seanchai, I believe my score and explanations of my shemale japan review was a bit harsh. I think my own bias and being a bit annoyed at that exact time of the review, plus the foreign way that they were updating in this way played a huge part in a undeserving low score. I am waiting a bit more time for some more updates and I will def join that site again with these new things in mind. In the mean time, maybe I should scrounge some change up for this site, it does look pretty good :)
Hmm, I think I obviously said this exactly how you said, not every updated scene has a cumshot...I don't see how I am taking it out of context at all :) Plus, where is the we're clear about this thing coming from, I have never tried to do nothing but tell a fact that not every updated solo scene has a cumshot. I have been a member of plenty of shemale sites that involve solo and rarely do the sets or the scenes not end in cumshots (plus, they usually state that there is no cumshot in the description). If grooby does their sites different with another format that's fine, I was asking this user how the scenes were set up and if they were the same as shemale japan because personally (can I have an opinion please?), I feel that a solo scene involving a shemale should always end in a cumshot. I am not trying to be negative or argumentative but that's just how I feel :( I am not trying do anything like bashing the site or whatever but get more information about the site and it's structure. Thanks for the response and answers again.
You mentioned this was a site from grooby. I joined a site called shemale japan and commented that this particular site did a set up where they would have a model that gest updated with the first movie which is an interview and strip (that's it) then usually after that you get a bj or masterbation but I noticed that a few cut off before cumshots. Then the third update was usually a total masterbation scene with or without a cumshot. I told this to someone who asked me a question about the site and they misinterepted what I meant and told the webmaster that the models never came. However, the webmaster made a reply to me and said that this format was how all the grooby sites were structured. Therefore, is this the case for this site? Is it a mix and mash of video scenes of the models stripping and a guessing game if they cum or not?
Current Member for over 3 months (at the time of review).
Updated:
04-09-0911:18am (Update History) Reason: Upped score, they added features. Plus, added technical stuff like the photo size and video res. Added some details to video and photo scenes.
Pros:
- Exclusive content.
- Very frequent updates, up to 2-3 a week.
- Great models, some of the best I've seen.
- HD quality videos (WMV: 1280 X 720, 4002 kbps or lower quality in browser using flash) and are at a great download size with some of the best quality I've ever seen. These scenes can be downloaded or watched in segments as well or full scene download. Older scenes are a bit lower but are not entirely horrible.
- High res pictures (1500 X 1000) all available in zip format and they are crystal clear.
- Great search engine.
- Sleek design.
- No DRM Protection.
- Free cam shows.
- Active Forum with polls generated from user's questions and concerns.
Cons:
- 4 GB download limit.
- A bit expensive for first join, but lowers after second month.
- Free cam shows update schedule is rarely posted but they do have shows, just the times are not displayed properly.
- Loyalty sites are discounted now, used to be free
Bottom Line:
Let me start off by telling you that this is basically Ladyboy-69's (LB-69) twin sister's site. It has all the content ladyboy 69 has just with a new sleek design which I seem to like a lot better. Therefore, I am going to give pretty much same the review for this site as the ladyboy 69 site with some updated facts that this site has to offer. However, I gave it more points cause I think the new design and features are better.
Bottom line, if you have the cash and want to check out Ladyboys, go here. They have some of the most gorgeous models I've seen on a site and updates are frequent with great old ones returning and new models entering. I can't even count the amount of models but I'd say they are well over 300. They are constantly getting new models so this rate goes up quick. Plus, these models range from all types of ladyboys, from the femboy to the complete feminine ones.
The videos are great with HD quality and are mostly masterbation scenes. However, the majority, if not every time, the Ladyboy will cum. Some are better than others, but you cannot avoid that due to hormones and such. But, the camerawork is done professionally which is harder to find on a ladyboy site and the music (which can be seen as a hindrance to some) is actually great. Plus, they often still leave the sound high enough to hear moans and groans from the model. Often times I found myself captivated with the girls even more due the music playing and the combo of the model's noises. Currently, there are well over 330 videos available.
There are some hardcore scenes which include TG/Boy, TG/TG, and TG/Girl. However, these are mostly older videos but are actually good, but not the bread n' butter of this site. But, they have been adding a few recently with statements that more will be added. However, there is a site within this company that has a main focus on hardcore action that you can get for a diis not spectacular.
One thing I found here that I don't find often is some Post-Op's. The pictures and videos include masterbation involving fingers and toys to hardcore with another ladyboy. Just another reason that if your a ladyboy lover, this site is for you.
The pictures are in great crystal clear quality and are not always just photo shoots of the videos. This is great for picture lovers who can get exclusive pictures that are not just stills of videos that you already watched. However, as of late, they seem to be photos that are close in content of the videos to come. However, there is a huge amount of shoots that are not like this. They range from glamour to masterbation scenes and are done quite professionally considering most ladyboys are not true models. Also, these are all in easy downloadable zip format and there are a lot, about 42,760.
To be honest, I have been to my share of shemale sites and I really do love this one. With the download limit, I can see some wanting to stray away. However, the content IS worth it. Highly recommended.
I just noticed that this company has a network..I wonder is all sites updates are available here? I remember joining a few of these sites in the network awhile ago and liking a lot of scenes, but I do remember the videos would almost do a slow motion every once in awhile which was obviously an encoding error. But, they were decent sites. I'm surprised these sites have not got as much attention as they could/should, would be interesting to see what others think.
A lot of users do mention if the use of download managers is accepted. I, however, do not usually mention this due to the fact that I just use DownThemAll! from FireFox and I don't think this constitutes as a download manager that would be prohibited (it does not use multiple threads for one file or accelerates). So, I would not know to begin with if one is accepted or not. But, you can always post a reply asking most reviewers a question if they don't mention it and most will reply with an informative response, at least if they know or not. Don't be afraid to ask!
By the way, a good way to find out is to just email customer service of a site and ask. If they don't respond, well then should that not consititute the site as being shady to begin with? Hope to see more reviews soon!
That's funny and great that you posted this, I went to this site a few days ago and was quite tempted with that price. Thanks for the review, now I know what to expect. The preview was misleading to begin with and I am surprised there is even this much content. I was expecting to join and get like 3 sets and a video :) By the way, did you try any of those other sites that are linked on this page? I think one was an Irish girl and a few others, they seemed to have the same page set up and price.
As always, thanks for the heads up and information exotic4me. I am waiting for a subscription to end and joining twisty's for the first time after your comments and others information they provided. However, I have a feeling that site is going to overwhelm me (this is a good thing though).
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