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elephant (0)
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Yeah I did contemplate joining this site again but hate this ticket idea, most are now 6-8, just not worth it for me anymore, even if you opt for the highest plan you have to wait 3 months to use credits, its too restrictive, I'm 100% sure if they went $49.99 all access everything they'd be raking in the cash.
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12-29-17 06:21am
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rearadmiral (0)
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The problem for me is that LP is like the crack cocaine of the porn business. I first 'joined' LP maybe five years ago and it is easily still the biggest part of my monthly porn budget. Like you, the hard part becomes budgeting your monthly tickets to get the scenes you want. I'd say at least six months of the year I end up buying additional tickets just to get the scenes I want. I'm not complaining though - that would be me complaining that LP makes too much porn that I want to see!
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12-29-17 10:25am
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rearadmiral (0)
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REPLY TO #1 - elephant :
I suspect that they are already raking in huge amounts of cash with their current business model which gives them little incentive to change it. They also show no signs of any kind of decline that might otherwise cause them to try something new.
Bear with me while I make some completely uneducated assumptions.
The latest Charlotte Sartre scene is currently showing about 55,000 views. I highly doubt that means that so far 55,000 people have bought the scene. I suspect that number is how many people have accessed the page or watched the trailer. My biggest assumption is on the number of people who then buy the scene. Charlotte is a big-name American star so I’m guessing that a conservative estimate would be that 5% of people who access the scene buy it. That would mean so far that 2750 people have bought it at approximately $5.50USD for a total of just over $15,000USD. I suspect that amount probably has them in the black on the scene already. But remember that the scene just went online yesterday so it still has lots of legs in it. I plan to buy a copy but just haven’t gotten around to it yet. Truthfully, I need to add some tickets to my monthly allotment before I can buy it. The Aidra Fox scene took the last of my tickets.
But look at another older scene that probably also generated a lot of interest – Samantha Rone’s first double anal that was uploaded in August 2016. That scene currently has views of 230,000. Again assuming that 5% of viewers buy it that means the scene (based on my uneducated assumptions) grossed approximately $63,000USD. (I had to assume a 5.5 ticket requirement because I bought the scene when it came out so I can’t see the ticket cost for it any longer.) Even if they paid Samantha properly for that scene they have definitely made a lot of money off of it.
I suspect that in choosing the two scenes that I have I am slanting things a bit because these scenes were probably bigger draws than many others. But it’s also possible that my assumption on uptake is low and maybe 10% of viewers buy the scenes. That doubles the gross for each of them.
Not to drag this out, but I think a good comparison is between Kink.com and LP. Kink is clearly in decline. They still produce some of the best BDSM porn available but it seems to me that it is a sign of decline that they can no longer sell memberships to individual sites but now bundle them as a network. If LP is generating the interest that they are then there is lots of life in their business model yet.
But like you, I definitely wish there was a one-price full access membership.
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12-29-17 11:02am
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stingerxxx (0)
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REPLY TO #1 - elephant :
@elephant and @rearadmiral - which is why I have never joined LP: it's too expensive and could be highly addictive. However, I have a collection of about 150 LP movies and it hasn't cost me one cent (yet). Sure, they're not 4K movies, but I can live with that. I am finding these movies quite boring recently: same scenarios and someone described it perfectly: a "circus act".
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12-29-17 03:28pm
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Onyx (In-Active)
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One + for their system is that you do have access to your purchased movies even when you are not a current member. You don't have to store them all yourself. You can log in at any time afterwards and redownload/stream your content years later if you wish. You can't do that with other sites.
They basically have no competition in brand though. Maybe the closest would be Evil Angel. The demand must be high enough that their model is working for them.
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12-29-17 10:07pm
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Onyx (In-Active)
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Another + is that if you don't want anything/much one month you can hold on to your tickets and spend them later. I suggest always buying the 3 month membership if you need tickets because it's the best value. I did this a couple years ago & it works out to like 66.5 cents a ticket.
I've no idea why they even offer direct ticket purchases. Maybe it's to trick people bad at math.
I still haven't used all my tickets yet. Although if they ever start making VR content I may be in trouble :)
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12-29-17 11:09pm
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stingerxxx (0)
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REPLY TO #4 - stingerxxx :
I agree that LP has no competition these days because they're the only ones doing gangbang and orgies; all the other major porn studios have focused on 1-on-1. There are a few exceptions such as Kink and ZTOD, but they seem to be in decline. That's why I like the old studios such as Anabolic, Diabolic, Red Light District, Mayhem, Acid Rain; they were all doing lots of gangbangs, orgies, swallowing, creampies etc and that was about 10-15 years ago.
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12-29-17 11:40pm
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elephant (0)
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REPLY TO #3 - rearadmiral :
I get it works and its working for them well but I also believe it would work better if they had a membership system around $50 and you would find many more people of that 55,000 signing up and being constant stream of profit, Paying for scenes separate or tickets puts a hell of a lot of people off I would guess, could be wrong but I reckon they'd double if not triple their earnings with a membership plan for all movies.
You are right though I don't see them changing it as they are earning a good whack and probably think they are doing well.
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12-31-17 02:39am
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elephant (0)
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REPLY TO #6 - Onyx :
Don't they offer the direct tickets for those that want to download more than the allocated 40 tickets each month for the 3 month.
From what I remember you can't use all 120 tickets in the first month and you have to wait each month. Could be wrong about this its been a while since I tried the site.
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12-31-17 02:45am
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Onyx (In-Active)
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REPLY TO #9 - elephant :
You're right. I believe they do dole tickets out 40 at a time every 30 days. So if someone was in a rush to buy a lot of scenes, buying direct tickets would be what they'd need to do. It's just a much worse value.
It just occurred to me that part of their calculus for not offering memberships with access to all videos may be an effort on their part to discourage easy pirating of all their content.
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12-31-17 03:13am
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elephant (0)
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REPLY TO #10 - Onyx :
Oh yeah I would rather wait myself and save some money.
Yeah when LP started they were they did lots to prevent people ripping off their vids so you could be right.
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12-31-17 07:58am
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rearadmiral (0)
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REPLY TO #8 - elephant :
Valid points. I'd likely sign on for that rate. The drawback for LP would be that many subscribers wouldn't keep recurring membership but would join occasionally to download the scenes posted since the last time they joined. But it would still be very profitable for them. And I agree that the ticket system probably prevents some people from 'joining' who would otherwise take a membership.
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12-31-17 08:40am
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Pele (0)
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REPLY TO #12 - rearadmiral :
I bit late for this discussion, but you also have to remember the membership plan also gives you 1 "Free ticket" a day. After 2 years the scenes go in a category where they can be bought with these tickets. So if you are a new member or haven't bought all the old scenes you get even better value. So 3 month plan gives you 120 Premium tickets and 90 free tickets.
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06-16-18 02:37pm
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rearadmiral (0)
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REPLY TO #13 - Pele :
Good point. I find that I need the instant gratification of buying and seeing a new scene once it is uploaded rather than wait for it to move to the free side of the site. I have close to 500 free tickets but I rarely even check out the free scenes because I have most of what I want and got it back when they were on the pay side of the wall. But, as you note, this can be an effective way to get LP scenes for people with self-control and patience.
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06-17-18 05:14am
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