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rearadmiral (0) 04-11-19  04:30am
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Problems cancelling membership

I joined Porn Fidelity and Teen Fidelity around three weeks ago and went online today to cancel my membership to ensure no rebilling happened. I’ve been a member here before and I don’t recall having problems cancelling.

The email I received when I joined gives no information on who the biller is or how to cancel. It lists “413 Productions” as the merchant though they appear to have no useful web presence. When I joined I wasn’t kicked to a biller page so I wasn’t able to determine who the biller was.

I then went to the site itself and after searching for a couple of minutes I did find a link in the FAQ for cancelling. That led me to another page where I had to enter a reason for cancelling and then hit ‘submit.’ That seems reasonable. But… that opened up another page where it listed three billers that could be the biller I was sent to. The options were NETBilling, Epoch and CCBill. Great! All of those have an easy search function. The problem is that none of those came back as my biller.

I then went back to the site and found a link to support but the link is dead. The only option was to email them through another contact given but that appears to go to NETBilling which I’ve already determined isn’t my biller.

Just a heads up for anyone wanting to join these sites that you’ll want to be aware that there may be problems in cancelling. I’ll post back here if I have any updates or if I figure out how to cancel.

As an aside, it utterly baffles me when reputable sites with some great porn opt to do something to make the membership experience less than perfect.

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lk2fireone (0) I joined the Teen Fidelity site (and got the other 2 sites included) about the same time you joined.
During the sign-up process, the sign-up page disappeared after I entered my details (email, credit card, etc.).
So I don't know who my biller is.
The confirming email I got did not list/show what the rebill price.
But thanks for the heads-up.
I should try to cancel immediately, because I don't know what they will charge for the rebill price, and I don't know who my billing agent is.
The Teen Fidelity site itself is great, but like you say, who the heck is the biller, and how do you cancel?

04-11-19  07:38am

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lk2fireone (0) I checked my credit card bill for the membership price.
The biller is listed as 413PROD.COM
The telephone number for the biller is 866-413-3222

That should help you cancel your membership.
(check the statement of the credit card you used to sign up with. That should give you the same info, so you can cancel using the phone number listed.)

04-11-19  08:00am

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lk2fireone (0) rearadmiral,

Since you are in Canada, the phone number I gave you for was the US.
Read the following text from the 413 web page:
It gives you an email address, and a phone number for calls outside the US.
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http://413prod.com/
Hello. This is 413's Customer Service web page.

We are here to assist you. Our customer service staff is happy to answer any questions or resolve any problems. We want to service you the best way possible.

If you have a charge from our company (413prod.com or 413pro) on your credit card statement and wish to inquire or if you tried to reach us by phone and were unsuccessful (see business hours below), please e-mail us at:
support@413prod.com - We will respond within 48hrs.

If you are having any technical difficulty with any of our websites, please e-mail us at:
webmaster@413prod.com - We will respond within 48hrs.

Thank you.

Our business hours are:
Monday through Friday 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM Pacific Standard Time.

Within United States call us toll free at 866-413-3222

Outside the US, call us at 714-997-3850

04-11-19  08:19am

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rearadmiral (0) REPLY TO #3 - lk2fireone :

Thanks for this. I did email the support address even though that does seem to be linked to NETBilling. I'll give that 24 hours to see if that works and if not I'll call the toll-free number. I've got almost a week before I get rebilled so I'm not panicked yet. I'll keep you posted on my success but I think you joined a day or two before I did so you may want to start the process now.
04-11-19  08:26am

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rearadmiral (0) REPLY TO #3 - lk2fireone :

I tried the toll-free number because I didn't want to wait in case this got more complex. First, for any Canadians with the same problem, the US-only number does work in Canada.

That process was more simple than with other cancellations calls I've had to make. The call went to a recording that told me to press zero for customer service and when I did that the call was answered immediately. The woman on the other end only asked my first and last names. She came back saying that she could see I had a PF/TF membership and said she'd cancel it now and send a confirmation email. Pretty much before I could hang up the phone there was a confirmation email in my inbox.

lk2fireone - let us know what your experience is please. I'm wondering if you'll have any success with the online process or if you'll end up calling too.

04-11-19  08:46am

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lk2fireone (0) REPLY TO #5 - rearadmiral :

I used the toll-free telephone number to cancel.
The process was simple and fast.
Press 0 to talk to customer service.
I was connected to an agent, who asked my name.
I gave it to her.
She cancelled my membership.
Bing.
I got a confirming email immediately.
Fast and simple.

So, if I was scoring the site, I would give it an A for easy cancellation (if you check your credit card statement for the billing agent-which shows the billing agent URL and phone number).

Otherwise, I didn't know who the billing agent was, or how much they would charge for membership rebill.

But thanks to pointing out the need to cancel. I would probably have forgotten to, since I have too many memberships to keep track of what I have.

04-11-19  10:37am

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rearadmiral (0) REPLY TO #6 - lk2fireone :

That was my experience too. I wouldn't be so generous in giving them an A though. My preference, by far, is the automated cancellation that billers like Epoch and CCBill use. But I do have to admit that this was easy and effective.
04-11-19  01:09pm

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