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LPee23 (0)
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I definitely do, as long as it is something I would have downloaded in the first place. That's why I say get it while the getting's good. You never know what will be there tomnorrow.
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01-23-15 02:09pm
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pat362 (0)
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I always do because it reminds me of all the porn I saw when I was younger and which no longer exist anywhere except in my imagination.
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01-23-15 05:22pm
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graymane (Suspended)
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Yes, but not nearly so much as those stolen from my own valued collections..... vanishing from and leaving empty untold number of folders .....
But by what or whomever I've yet to discover.
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01-23-15 07:32pm
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LPee23 (0)
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REPLY TO #2 - pat362 :
I think that you, me, and lots of people feel this way. There are so many posts on all the porn forums looking for this or that video that someone saw 10 years ago that they can't for the life of them find anymore. For lots of porn fans, it seems that these old videos are actually the most sought out content.
It gets me thinking, if only there were a way to purchase the older stuff together with the rights and necessary documents for distribution, or license it, and bring more of it back. Or, for the older stuff that went down due to payment processor restrictions, to find alternative methods of monetizing its distribution. There could be huge potential here, if anyone could figure this one out.
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01-23-15 08:49pm
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pat362 (0)
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REPLY TO #4 - LPee23 :
The two biggest stumbling blocks for what you are talking about are availability and money. Finding the original master for those older videos is going to be a really hard because they may no longer exist or they belong to too many different people that finding and dealing with all of them will be next to impossible. I mean there must be a digital versions of most if not all older videos somewhere on the net but quality is usually on the poor side. That's where the money stumbling block comes in to play. I mean the technology is likely already here but paying someone to clean up older videos is going to cost way more than you can ever hope to make back and sadly now that people are salivating over the arrival of 4K videos then I don't know how big the market for videos that will be significantly lower will really be. I know I'd join in a second but I think I'm now part of the minority in regard t older porn.
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01-24-15 07:14am
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LPee23 (0)
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REPLY TO #5 - pat362 :
Bringing back the older stuff owned by people that left the industry is a long shot as you say, because those people are checked out and unreachable.
My other idea was licensing stuff that was censored by the payment processors though, and that may be an interesting discussion, so I am moving it to the forum.
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01-24-15 07:37am
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rearadmiral (0)
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For me, getting stuff is just as important as having it.
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01-24-15 10:36am
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Wittyguy (0)
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A lot of old stuff that goes also can't legally be reproduced any more because of the all the documentation required now to show consent, age, etc. Also, who really owns the copyright to the old stuff is hard to track down. With porn being relatively cheap to produce I can't see many willing to go the expense and hassle of reclaiming the oldies and then updating them to current acceptable standards.
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01-24-15 04:23pm
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pat362 (0)
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REPLY TO #6 - LPee23 :
The only thing I can think of that is now censored and not available (except maybe on illegal sites) is underage porn. I'm not talking about always illegal underage porn so much as now illegal porn. I believe the legal age for doing porn is some European Countries used to be 16 and there are a couple of under 18 teenagers who did porn. Their stuff is no longer available because the legal age changed over the years and their stuff became illegal to own when once upon a time it was legal.
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01-25-15 10:35am
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LPee23 (0)
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REPLY TO #9 - pat362 :
Dude, I wouldn't touch that stuff with a 10 foot pole, and if I could delete it all with a keystroke right now I would.
Off the top of my head, here's some of the legal stuff that's been censored:
PornstarPunishment.com
This has been beat to death on other forums. Posts supposedly from a Brazzers.com employee have implicated it to VISA, of course, you can take that with a grain of salt. This same poster, who is supposedly charged with reviewing Brazzers content, wrote about some the other criteria for removal which include models in pigtails, because it is too suggestive of underage, and models drinking alcohol on the set.
SickPuppy.com
They constantly posted about all the pressure from credit card processors, now almost all of their content is removed.
WatersportsSluts.com (Hard Glam Network)
Owner wrote in an article on XBiz.com how he was forced to close when his payment processor cut him off. This actually wasn't because the content was too extreme, but he was a UK operator, and he failed to comply with ATVOD. Rather that allow him to work it out, his payment processor just terminated his account, and rather than try to find another processor, he just closed up shop.
Along this note, sites forced to close or remove content by ATVOD could be added to the list, and there are many of those.
YellowDiscipline.com
It is relatively common knowledge that F2M peeing may be permissible in small quantities on US sites, but M2F peeing is off limits. This is one of many US sites that specialized in M2F peeing that have closed over the years. Do I like M2F peeing - not at all - but it still proves my point. Some people do enjoy it though, and these sites shouldn't have had to close.
There's another huge group of sites totaling in the 100's that have categorically been censored by the credit card processors. Sites that featured #2, which I am not into, but also had tons of other content that was legit. I won't list them all, because these sites pushed the limits too much for mention here. I will just mention one.
Veronica-Moser.com
This is the best example, because if you go to her new page on Hightide (ask me if you want the link, but be warned), she explains in detail how credit card processors forced her to take down her site. She did lots of straight up peeing shoots that were legit, but they went down with the ship. We have talked about her peeing content, although not about this idea, but she is an example of someone who might be open to this distribution model.
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01-25-15 11:43am
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pat362 (0)
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REPLY TO #10 - LPee23 :
So unless I'm reading you wrong than basically watersport sites have for the most part all had issues with CC processor. I could believe it because pee is and always was a less than defensible part of the porn industry which is why most producers over the years have avoided shooting it or at least they found loopholes to shoot it. Why do you think you saw so much squirting.
I know Brazzer had to remove most if not all of their P/P content or face a loss of cc processors but frankly I never really believed the reasons they offered because their stuff wasn't any worse than the stuff Kink was shooting at the same time and still does today. I think there may have been other factors which we may hear about one day.
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01-25-15 05:28pm
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LPee23 (0)
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REPLY TO #11 - pat362 :
If only people could keep a more open mind. Anything that can be enjoyed between consenting adults should be able to be portrayed.
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01-25-15 06:06pm
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pat362 (0)
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REPLY TO #12 - LPee23 :
The problem you seem to want to overlook is that pee is not actually water. It is waste material in the same vain that shit is except that urine's main component is still water and therefore ingesting it is unlikely to cause any ill effect but you don't see people drink their piss or play with it because instinctively we know it's not meant for consumption.
I think that is why having an open mind is not going to change any of what I wrote. In fact it's likely to have the opposite effect as you consider the implication of someone pissing on somebody else.
Mind you I get the feeling that you don't see it the same way as I do but that's alright.
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01-26-15 06:23pm
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LPee23 (0)
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REPLY TO #13 - pat362 :
The taboo nature is part of the fun too. If it weren't for people opposed to it, and you are entitled to your own opinion, then it wouldn't have quite the same thrill.
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01-26-15 07:01pm
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pat362 (0)
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REPLY TO #14 - LPee23 :
I guess that is part of the appeal but there are some thing in porn that I simply don't want to watch because I find them degrading to the women. Spitting, Slapping, Facials, pee are all things that I avoid because I find that it's a degrading act being perpetrated against the women and therefore a turn off for me. I don't judge them impartially because I'm unable to be impartial on those subjects.
I'm sure you view pee scenes with a very different eye than me and more power to you if you can find such scenes. They aren't that rare but they are still a fringe item that is getting much harder to find. At least new stuff.
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01-27-15 06:41pm
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LPee23 (0)
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REPLY TO #15 - pat362 :
Sad but true about the drop off in new content. There were years when there were over a hundred new sites featuring peeing, now last year I don't think I could name ten new ones, and many more closed than opened.
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01-27-15 08:20pm
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merc77 (Disabled)
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Nothing really disappears from the internet.
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04-25-16 08:41pm
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Homegirl (Disabled)
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i agree that nothing ever really is not to be found on the interent.
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05-27-20 01:25am
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