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10-28-12  03:17pm - 4438 days Original Post - #1
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Questions without answers!

Why would lesbians put on strap-ons if this makes them look like something (or someone) they don't want anything to do with?

Why would a lesbian suck on a life-like rubber penis? Again, have they not turned their backs on the male gender, so why would they?

Why would a transsexual "girl" do an anal on a man? Does this not completely contradict what "she" professes to be.

Why would a woman find it arousing if a man uses the groove between her breasts as another thing to "make love to?" (I'm such a prude .. the other word would have been more accurate! Just blame my age for that!)

Why would a woman moan in ecstasy while rubbing her upper arms? (mostly seen in Eastern European models)

Why would a man or woman keep spitting on a vagina or anus if a bit of lubrication beforehand would do the trick much better and would look much more aesthetically appealing at the same time?

I have another dozen "why"s but that would be more in connection with my natural likes and dislikes .. and the answer to those would be: "Everyone's different, get used to it!"

But the ones I mentioned truly have me baffled!

Why????

10-28-12  03:37pm - 4438 days #2
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Why would lesbians put on strap-ons?

Why would a lesbian suck on a life-like rubber penis? , so why would they?

Why would a transsexual "girl" do an anal on a man? Does this not completely contradict what "she" professes to be.

Why would a woman find it arousing if a man uses the groove between her breasts as another thing to "make love to?" )

Why would a woman moan in ecstasy while rubbing her upper arms? (mostly seen in Eastern European models)

Why would a man or woman keep spitting on a vagina or anus if a bit ?

I have another dozen "why"s but that would be more in connection with my natural likes and dislikes .. and the answer to those would be: "Everyone's different, get used to it!"

But the ones I mentioned truly have me baffled!

Why????


My guesses would be:

1. I have seen strapons that are vibes with inserts that would make sense to me as would be felt by both.

2. Messmer I have no idea, it looks lame to me

3. I think possibly if they feel it then why not I guess ?

4. I again would not have an answer, It feels good to the man is all I can think of her way of pleasing him?

5. No idea

6. This one has had me wondering for awhile. Women become aroused and will become moist if turned on, it would stand to reason if they are insensitive to the guy then who would be drier then the Sahara I would guess.


Geees Messmer these are hard great thoughts though.

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10-28-12  03:45pm - 4438 days #3
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I've got one of my own.

i often ponder this why.

Why do women think tattoos and fake boobs will make them look better?

Yeah i can't answer for the real lesbians of the world basically cause I'm not one, lol yeah maybe in another life. But do real lesbians use strap-on and dildos, I don't get it either, very strange and something I hate to see in lesbian porn, much prefer toyfree. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE

10-28-12  04:00pm - 4438 days #4
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Another variable to throw into the equation is the bisexual element.

Just because they are performing a lesbian act does not mean they are not 'bi'.

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10-28-12  04:02pm - 4438 days #5
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Originally Posted by elephant:



Why do women think tattoos and fake boobs will make them look better?



Peer pressure?

So & so has done it, so it must be a good idea?

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10-28-12  04:31pm - 4438 days #6
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I can easily answer all the questions posted here.

They didn't consult me first. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

10-28-12  06:27pm - 4438 days #7
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1-Lesbians that use a strapons do so to sexually satisfy their partner. The fact that the strapon looks like a penis (and they don't necessarily have to) is not at issue because it's still a woman using it on another woman and it's the sensation that matters.

2-I'm not a lesbian and I've never asked them but I don't think they actually suck on the strapon in real life. I think this is basically something only seen in porn.

3-This one is really tough. On the one hand you have a transsexual who wants to be a woman so it makes sense that she would be attracted to men but having a penis means that you can either get your penis sucked, you fuck the guy or you get fucked yourself. The question you should have asked is more what kind of man do you have to be to let a transsexual fuck you in the ass.

4-I again think that this is more a porn thing than an actual real life thing. The only real life reason I can see is that if a woman wants to satisfy her partner and this happens to be one of the things he likes than it might arouse the woman letting her man do that.

5-Because they don't actually get to speak dialogue so the only thing they can verbally do is moan. It's seems to be the one the constant in most Eastern European porn.

6-I have to confess that this one boggles me. I remember a time not long ago when lube bottles were visible in the sex scene and you actually saw the performers using them. Then some genius (read dumbass) thought to himself that using lube destroyed the fantasy and we should instead see people spitting all over each other for lubrication. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-28-12  06:44pm - 4438 days #8
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I have another dozen "why"s but that would be more in connection with my natural likes and dislikes .. and the answer to those would be: "Everyone's different, get used to it!"

But the ones I mentioned truly have me baffled!


Porn is a performance, not a simulation. The primary purpose of a scene is not for the sexual pleasure of the actress.

10-28-12  06:57pm - 4438 days #9
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Originally Posted by anyonebutme:


Porn is a performance, not a simulation. The primary purpose of a scene is not for the sexual pleasure of the actress.


I couldn't argue with that statement. Yet if things aren't done for the sexual pleasure of the actress most of the questions I had still go unanswered: Would a man feel sexual pleasure by watching someone spit? Would he get anything out of watching an East European model/actress moan as she rubs her arms? Most men (PUs) dislike dildos. Would they get pleasure out of watching a woman wear a strap-on? So, if it isn't done for female pleasure, and most men don't get aroused sexually from the things I mentioned ... how come they are doing it??

10-28-12  07:00pm - 4438 days #10
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Originally Posted by pat362:


1-Lesbians that use a strapons do so to sexually satisfy their partner. The fact that the strapon looks like a penis (and they don't necessarily have to) is not at issue because it's still a woman using it on another woman and it's the sensation that matters.

2-I'm not a lesbian and I've never asked them but I don't think they actually suck on the strapon in real life. I think this is basically something only seen in porn.

3-This one is really tough. On the one hand you have a transsexual who wants to be a woman so it makes sense that she would be attracted to men but having a penis means that you can either get your penis sucked, you fuck the guy or you get fucked yourself. The question you should have asked is more what kind of man do you have to be to let a transsexual fuck you in the ass.

4-I again think that this is more a porn thing than an actual real life thing. The only real life reason I can see is that if a woman wants to satisfy her partner and this happens to be one of the things he likes than it might arouse the woman letting her man do that.

5-Because they don't actually get to speak dialogue so the only thing they can verbally do is moan. It's seems to be the one the constant in most Eastern European porn.

6-I have to confess that this one boggles me. I remember a time not long ago when lube bottles were visible in the sex scene and you actually saw the performers using them. Then some genius (read dumbass) thought to himself that using lube destroyed the fantasy and we should instead see people spitting all over each other for lubrication.


Good answers, Pat. I have to get back to you tomorrow about some of your observations because I am on my way to bed and just noticed your post this very minute.

10-28-12  07:42pm - 4438 days #11
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Why do models put their necklaces in their mouths?

And why do models put their necklaces in their butt cracks? I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

10-28-12  07:47pm - 4438 days #12
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Why would lesbians put on strap-ons if this makes them look like something (or someone) they don't want anything to do with?
Pat362: ...it's the sensation that matters.

I concur with Pat, the female anatomy was designed to receive pleasure from the male anatomy. In short: It feels good.

Why would a lesbian suck on a life-like rubber penis? Again, have they not turned their backs on the male gender, so why would they?

I'm really not sure why again and again when you see people talk about Lesbians they use phrases like "they turned their backs on the male gender." It is as if being attracted to a specific gender is an attack on the other genders. So I rather argue the premise of the second question. In regards to the first, I believe it is usually done in porn for the enjoyment of the viewers, though as pointed out in the past, the majority of humans are attracted to multiple genders to varying degrees, so those doing the sucking could also be turned on by it. There is also the attraction of classically taboo behavior and the exotic.

Lastly, there is the old adage that no lubricant is superior to saliva - it last longer, runs smoother and it's free.

Why would a transsexual "girl" do an anal on a man? Does this not completely contradict what "she" professes to be.

Why not? She is pre-op and it feels good, so if her partner is into it, it seems to make damn good sense. There are plenty of women, who gender identify as women, that go home, throw on a strap-on and plow their man up the arse. Keep an open-mind folks. Different strokes and all that.

Why would a woman find it arousing if a man uses the groove between her breasts as another thing to "make love to?"

Many people get aroused by making their partner aroused - that is more of a turn on for them than having their partner go down on them or whatever else. The giver versus receiver mentality; or submissive versus dominant, et cetera. So yes, most women aren't going to have a huge amount of sexual stimulation from "tit-fucking" but they can still be immensely turned on by it. There is also the oddity of it - back to that "taboo" as a turn-on thing.

Also, the entire human body is to some degree a sexual organ, there are many people that can orgasm from solid "thumping" or drumming of the chest, back, legs, pubis, et cetera. Many people can achieve orgasms through parts of the body that most think are wholly unrelated to sexual activity. So much of orgasms is a mental process that there is pretty much no limitation in methods for achieving them.

Why would a woman moan in ecstasy while rubbing her upper arms? (mostly seen in Eastern European models)

Firstly: See above.

Secondly (and more likely): For the entertainment of the viewers (of the porn)

Why would a man or woman keep spitting on a vagina or anus if a bit of lubrication beforehand would do the trick much better and would look much more aesthetically appealing at the same time?

See earlier comment about saliva as the best lubrication. Secondly, if it is taboo, it can be extra sexy. Never underestimate the attraction of the exotic and the taboo. Taboo behavior is sometimes very appealing in fantasy, and sometimes shockingly unappealing in reality. Perfect Example: Rape Fantasy. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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10-28-12  08:07pm - 4438 days #13
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Would a man feel sexual pleasure by watching someone spit? Would he get anything out of watching an East European model/actress moan as she rubs her arms? Most men (PUs) dislike dildos. Would they get pleasure out of watching a woman wear a strap-on? So, if it isn't done for female pleasure, and most men don't get aroused sexually from the things I mentioned ... how come they are doing it??


Humans will get aroused by damn near anything. You could probably get some people to sign up for footage of people pouring coffee... sexily...

Also, I'm not sure why you are saying most men, or for that matter, most Porn Users, dislike Dildos. Here are three Porn Users Polls that say otherwise:

What are attractive toys? Only 26% selected "none".
Do you prefer that models use toys that are "anatomically correct?" Only 32% picked other ("none" wasn't an option).
Do you approve of the huge-sized vibrators that seem popular in porn recently? 50% don't approve if you count "dislike" to mean "disliking all toys" and adding in "other".

Those were all I found using a quick Google search, though I imagine there were probably a few more polls on the topic.

Anyway, humans succeed because we like to reproduce - I really don't wonder about what anyone finds arousing - just as long as they pursue it in a manner than does not endanger self or others. That is of course stealing language of the Mental Health community for judging if an individual should be committed to a hospital for treatment.

Lastly, an amusing video that seems quite apropos from the sketch comedy show "That Mitchell and Webb Look" on Youtube:

That Mitchell and Webb Look - Working from home (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co_DNpTMKXk) "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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10-28-12  10:43pm - 4437 days #14
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You know this topic is a thorn in my shoe, big-time don't'cha warrior?


But Ditto, sir messmer ...and a High-five on all the above counts.

Indeed! Why indeed?

Could the answers lie in the absurdity of "why" this kind of crap is practiced in commercial porn at all? Could it be because of the abundance of stale air occupying the cranical cavity, which likely once held but now demonstrate a serious absence of greymatter.

Stroking ones dick between the folds of a woman's tits and reacting as if it contained the miraculous sensation of the interior of a vagina tells me his problem is optic, and seriously needs to get his peepers checked.

Having been a student of the old school.... My auto-reflex upon being spit upon would be delivering a well aimed swift right hook just under the chin of the spittee.

The "moaning thing" ?? Maybe she ain't gettin' enough attention at home ..

Wanna respond to your other inquires, messmer ....but I'm outta time. Suffice to say people who fall into the mold representing the nut-factories who promote and dig this unconventional role-play, might want to avoid any more blood-tests .... for fear of being discovered overhauled in a lab by space mutants from somewhere in wierd-o-coo-coo.

10-29-12  06:59am - 4437 days #15
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Those were all I found using a quick Google search, though I imagine there were probably a few more polls on the topic.


As an aside ...

Remember we provide a way to browse past polls; that includes searching for specific key words. See:
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10-29-12  11:09am - 4437 days #16
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Hi guys, I am simply overwhelmed by your many responses. I hadn't anticipated that .. lots of valuable insights, lots of things I hadn't thought about. It is usually my habit of answering each and every one of the replies to me, it's only courteous, but in this case I am tired before I can even get started to do your insights justice.

Just a couple of things: It was mentioned a couple of times that one only sees the things I mentioned in Porn .. Porn is exactly what I was talking about. I have no idea how real life lesbians pleasure one another, even though I have a good idea. In any case there might not be a strap-on to be found anywhere, or a life like penis to lick in the average Lesbian household. It is those scenes in PORN that don't make any sense to me.

Someone mentioned that my phrasing that Lesbians had "turned their backs on men" made it look as if they considered us to be the enemy. I never meant to imply that. What I meant was that by nature they prefer other women and I couldn't see how a replica of a male organ would appeal to them.

Same as I could not see how a girl transsexual could be the "aggressor" in a b/g scene. If the man uses her anus, okay, that would be true to the trannie's nature but if she uses a man's anus that would make her gay (with a few quirks) in my eyes.

Don't jump on me, guys. I can only tell 'em as I see 'em! In any case I hope I have answered most of you in this indirect way and that I had great fun with the subject. Now I've pretty well exhausted my low energy and have to shut up! Thanks again for listening and for taking the time to make some very incisive observations in connection with some whimsical observations of mine.

10-29-12  02:34pm - 4437 days #17
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Originally Posted by Khan:


As an aside ...

Remember we provide a way to browse past polls; that includes searching for specific key words. See:
https://www.pornusers.com/browse_polls.html

Just in case someone wasn't aware.


Always good to remind us of such things, however, I found the Porn Users search engine wasn't quite nuanced enough and I remembered there being polls that fit what I was looking for. For example, typing "dildo" in the Keyword Search found no results. Google tons of pages, though most were simply replies, not actual polls themselves. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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10-29-12  09:51pm - 4436 days #18
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Originally Posted by messmer:



Same as I could not see how a girl transsexual could be the "aggressor" in a b/g scene. If the man uses her anus, okay, that would be true to the trannie's nature but if she uses a man's anus that would make her gay (with a few quirks) in my eyes.


I had to comment on this part. Becoming a transsexual isn't about what gender you're attracted to, or what roles you like to play, or what sexual organs you like stimulated. It's about what you think your mind tells you about what your gender should be. One doesn't have to have anything to do with the other.

10-30-12  10:07am - 4436 days #19
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I was thinking about some of these questions if turned around?
And what would be an answer to those.

Seems that perhaps even plain old human curiosity, after all a coed romp in college does not make one gay anymore then then a guy having a dildo slid up his ass makes him gay.

People try allot of think, some arouse some repulse us, yet we try it all the same. Perhaps the sexual separation is not as far apart as many would like it to comfortably to be?

I mean two gals living together or two men living together are only separated in social view of being gay because of a commitment or sex its self. After all that is all that really separates a heterosexual relation is sex and commitment. Without those two there is no true connection so why then do people cross that line? Since 2007

10-30-12  10:28am - 4436 days #20
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Originally Posted by hodayathink:


I had to comment on this part. Becoming a transsexual isn't about what gender you're attracted to, or what roles you like to play, or what sexual organs you like stimulated. It's about what you think your mind tells you about what your gender should be. One doesn't have to have anything to do with the other.


I thought that was exactly what I was saying all along. Your mind tells you that you are a girl so why would you want to do an anal to a man?

10-30-12  10:55am - 4436 days #21
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I thought that was exactly what I was saying all along. Your mind tells you that you are a girl so why would you want to do an anal to a man?


Being a girl doesn't necessitate that one isn't into that. Gender identity and sexual desires aren't tied together in a one-to-one relationship.

As I said before: There are plenty of heterosexual partners that use a strap-on in the bedroom, on the man. So if some natural born girls want to do it, then it makes sense that some trans-girls will want to do it too. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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10-30-12  11:05am - 4436 days #22
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The answer to all questions relating to what is in porn scenes:

It's the Porn Gods showing their brilliance of what they think is marketable. It has nothing to do with the real world, the pleasure of the participants or what it's audience would "really" like to see. It's just them ing out stuff. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

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10-30-12  11:24am - 4436 days #23
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Being a girl doesn't necessitate that one isn't into that. Gender identity and sexual desires aren't tied together in a one-to-one relationship.

As I said before: There are plenty of heterosexual partners that use a strap-on in the bedroom, on the man. So if some natural born girls want to do it, then it makes sense that some trans-girls will want to do it too.


Can't argue with that, Toadsith. Your scenario falls under my first stated "I have another dozen "why"s but that would be more in connection with my natural likes and dislikes .. and the answer to those would be: "Everyone's different, get used to it!"

In my mind I agree that everything can become a fetish to someone, and that's all right, but something in me still keeps asking, how did they get that way? Why did I get to be the way I am?

I wish I had been a Psychologist! I don't mind, I don't object, I don't judge, but I am driven to find out about that which is a mystery to me as in: why would a woman want to do that to her mate with a strap-on and why would her mate want that done to him? I know, I know, the simple answer would be because they somehow get turned on by the idea but WHY DO THEY?

I don't understand how people can get turned on by BDSM gear, by leather masks, by latex, diapers, balloons, extra hairy legs on women, feet, toes etc. either, but as I said, to each his own.

I just would love to know what triggers our fetishes and I'm afraid I won't get any answers until I take that course in "The Origins Of The Sexual Fetish!

Sorry to get everyone involved in questions for which most of us don't have an answer yet, until we take that course. And I suspect most of us don't care and simply just accept "as is!"

10-30-12  02:12pm - 4436 days #24
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Haha, yeah, those are tough questions to answer. Maybe when Psychology matures into unequivocally "hard science", like the transition that Sociology is being forced through right now, then some of those questions will be answered. Give them a few hundred years. Somebody will figure it out "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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