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| 07-13-09 08:32pm - 5641 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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kkman112 (0)
Active User Posts: 56 Registered: Mar 31, '07 Location: United States |
Live Webcam Sites Anyone have any experience / reviews of live webcam sites? I have looked at a few but am not really convinced. I have heard mixed reviews so far. Some saying they are great sites and the models are really exceptional and not gold diggers. Others have said that the sites are a rip off, that the prices are outrageous and the girls just try to get hundreds in minutes out of you for nothing. I am not clearly convinced on webcam sites yet. Some seem decent but the underlying designs of some seem exactly the same which worries me. Also, I would not like a cam show without a transcript! Sure some sites are now offering live HD and certain other features but in the end it is just a blank video. I am not sure I could even try any of them without knowing that I could download a copy of the session in the end: Do any of the sites offer this? Some of the sites seem to offer a video download or sale area but most models do not seem to use it. What is your take? | |
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| 07-13-09 08:36pm - 5641 days | #2 | |
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GCode (0)
Active User  Posts: 386 Registered: Feb 23, '09 Location: USA |
My main thing about webcam shows in general is that the quality of webcams just is not there yet. I have yet to do anything like a 1 on 1 webcam session with a model but I just can't see it being worth any price that would be offered. When I was a member of a site with free shows, I would jump on for a few minutes (if that) and would just end up leaving quickly. You say HD is offered but I would like to actually see the videos, I just can't imagine the technology being up to par with that in webcams yet. I may be wrong and would not mind seeing anyone elses opinion on the matter who has experiences so called HD webcam videos yet. Until I can get more confirmation and details, I'm in the realm of saying no thanks. Sexted From My iPad | |
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| 07-14-09 02:18am - 5640 days | #3 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User  Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
It will likely be a while before we see any true HD 1 on 1 webshows or anything live for that matter. The reason is that many people simply do not have the bandwidth to stream HD content. It would be possible to get okay definition but even that would require s lot. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 07-14-09 05:53am - 5640 days | #4 | ||
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kkman112 (0)
Active User Posts: 56 Registered: Mar 31, '07 Location: United States |
You are both right, it is not TRUE HD (as in 720p, 1080i/p). Bandwidth restrictions certainly prevent that, but the picture certainly is better (from the screenshots I have seen) than the small, grainy, dark pictures of the non HD streams. You have to realize though that not even all regular porn sites that claim HD video are HD. Most of the time it is just a larger widescreen video with a larger bitrate. | ||
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| 07-17-09 12:16am - 5638 days | #5 | |
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David19 (0)
Active User Posts: 32 Registered: May 16, '08 Location: California |
It's important to understand that such sites can be extraordinarily intense. This is partly because essentially anyone--as long as both parties are 18 or over--can sell online webcam sexual services to anyone else and it is legal--because no physical contact takes place. There is no law--and usually no policy on such sites--against people who know one another or are related to one another selling online sexual services. And such things do happen. I am 20 years old and for about two years have been a member of ifriends.net where my mother, Lisa, an attractive 42 year old girl, is a nude chathost. Lisa first told me about the site when I was 18 and had just moved out of the house. Initially it seemed something she was comfortable with--however she became very cold and businesslike when I asked about subscribing to the site. Her cold tone, though, ultimately served only to arouse my penis and get me to subscribe to the site. I subsequently discovered that she had a very regular customer who was encourage her to get me to focus sexual energy on her--and that ultimately her addiction to the money she was getting trumped everything else in her life. Having said all that, though, and if you can deal with the potential addictions in both directions (models addicted to money, customers addicted to the pleasure provided), such sites can be extraordinarily pleasurable but very expensive. I presently spend about $500/mo on ifriends--about $150/mo in Lisa's room and $350/mo in other rooms--but it is worth it and I make good money for a 20 y/o and can afford it. The sites cost anywhere from $2-$5/minute of which the model usually gets 25%-50% and the site takes the rest. While it is true that some individual models do not provide service that is worth it, the risk of losing substantial money can be kept to a minimum. For one thing you can usually chat to the model (slightly clothed) for free beforehand and get some sense of her--also there are reviews where you can determine if other customers have had a bad experience. Plus I don't waste time. I usually deal only with models who are over 30 years old because they usually understand that they are providing a professional service. I expect the models to undress completely nude within a minute of my entering their room--if they do not I leave and do not come back. I am polite but businesslike--after a few preliminaries I will say 'would you please take off all your clothes' and if they do not--or want endless 'talk' to do so--I excuse myself quickly and, again, do not come back. I also expect them to be willing to discuss anything whatsoever about their sex lives. Depending on my mood, I may ask them about current relationships or whether they've ever been raped. If they are old enough to have adult children, I ask whether their adult sons have ever subscribed to their site and seen their room. I am respectful in asking such personal questions but they are sex workers and are being paid to answer--and most do so. It is the women who have an interesting sexual story to tell who keep my interest for the longest time. The ones who (only) want to mindlessly play with toys tend to lose my interest (and money) quickly. Of course it is entirely possible that the successful models are ones who are sensitive to the kind of story they think I want to hear in any given mood I might be in, and quickly adjust a (fictional) story accordingly. However if they are doing so it better be a good, persuasive story or--again--I will quickly lose interest. The bottom line is that these sites are very expensive but provide a service which IMHO is well worth it. | |
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| 07-17-09 07:07am - 5637 days | #6 | |
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Jay G (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 96 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
What I've seen of web-cams so far seems very boring, yet I can see tremendous potential in them. The prices seem high and non-competitive and the girls might as well be cheap videos for the lack of true inter-action because of time pressure (girls want to stretch out the time, customers worry about high costs and want to hurry). Most live girls in real life do a lot more for a lot less cost it seems. Websites that charged $30 an hour (50 cents per minute, paid the girls $20 of that and pocketed $10 per hour) would make a lot more money, I believe. The quantity of paying customers who didn't feel rushed would increase dramatically with that business model and everyone would come out ahead. Realizing that really big money is to be made by extremely large numbers of customers paying reasonable rates, not by small numbers paying high rates, is a business lesson that is hard for new entrepreneurs to learn, I guess. MacDonalds still makes a lot more money than gourmet restaurants because of human nature. Jay G | |
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| 07-17-09 08:55am - 5637 days | #7 | |
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atrapat (0)
Active User  Posts: 182 Registered: Apr 19, '08 Location: Non-USA |
I've reviewed a couple sites and the only one I've found that offers the possibility of something similar to what you are proposing is I'm Live. If I'm not mistaken, the site offers the option to start recording a session at any time but the video is kept at the site and you have to pay a somewhat expensive price per minute to rewatch it in stream mode. I "recorded" a chat but didn't get rewatch it because of the high price. If you are interested, check I'm Live help section in case there's the chance to download it or whether the model has something to say about it. None of the other cam sites I've seen offered session recording while I was a member. | |
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| 07-18-09 12:36am - 5637 days | #8 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
There is a lot of software increasingly available to download web-cam shows - Real player has been promoting its ability to download streaming video from a wide variety of sites. I don't know how much ability there is to "save" files from your Real Player library, if that's how you go. I'm sure there are other options available. There's a lot of money in the web-cam biz. Molly at ALS Scan has been earning a living as a web-cam model for a number of years now - she's worked with various of the major companies. She's got her own web site now, Aaliyahlove.com and does free members shows. It's funny to hear her talk about her private show clients - she's got couples that get private shows with her, then she's got a guy that gets private shows with her and tell her that his wife is asleep next to him and he's laying there watching Aaliyah on his lap-top with headphones on. I vote for the couple's relationship to last longer - or at least more happily | |
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| 07-18-09 06:53am - 5636 days | #9 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
If David19's prices are correct than a 1hr session is anything from 120$ to 300$. Even if I was curious. Those prices put any of these sites out of my budget. I can get a one month memebership to at least 4 sites for the price of a 1hr session. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 07-18-09 03:59pm - 5636 days | #10 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
You can go to a strip club and watch hot girls get naked all night and get private shows and pay less than what you can pay in a short time at these web cam sites. Like a lot of things in the world of adult entertainment, there's not a lot of logic as to why some guys are willing to spend so much money for what seems to other guys to not be worth it. But then, to the "anybody that spends money on porn is a moron" crowd, all of us that pay money to join any porn sites are being silly. Whatever. | |
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| 07-20-09 02:56pm - 5634 days | #11 | |
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David19 (0)
Active User Posts: 32 Registered: May 16, '08 Location: California |
Hmmm...not in my experience. In my experience you can spend $80 on a private show in a strip club and the show is over in a few minutes...and the girl expects a huge tip on top of that. Even if you are able to negotiate the price down a bit, too much of the focus is on the girl trying to get more and more money in the strip club...which takes away from why I'm there. On the cam sites, if someone is charging $2/min (towards the low end of the range but not hard to find) that gets you 40 minutes for $80...and no demand for a 50% tip on top of that. I've never found a strip club that offers anything close. Plus the whole vibe in strip clubs is a real turnoff for me. Strip clubs to me seem to be about seedy owners exploiting girls who are often hooked on drugs, etc. The webcam girls, OTOH, have a more arms-length relationship with the sites that host them and so are much more in control of things. I expect a webcam girl to be willing to have a very intense sexual conversation with no limits, but I also expect her to be able to hold up her end of it in a very intelligent manner. I'm able to find this with a lot of webcam girls but not so much in the clubs. The webcam girls are intelligent women who know they can make--or supplement--their income nicely by doing this kind of work, and usually have a clear goal for their lives. The in-person strip club girls just give off too much of an aura of everything being frittered away on drugs and fast living. | |
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| 07-20-09 07:18pm - 5634 days | #12 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I'll have to bound down to your wisdom on strip club etiquette because I haven't been in one in a long time. I'm curious to know what kind of special show you are talking about to cost 80$ for a few minutes. No matter how you cut it. A webcam show is still costing you 80$ for less that one hour. Call me a skeptic but I don't believe that webcam girls are in it for any better reasons that strippers or that they are of greater inteligence. I suspect that there are as many drug users webcam girls as strippers. No matter how you look at it. Whether you take your clothes off in front of a camera or in front of an audience. The only difference is the location and the money you will have in your pocket at the end of the day. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 07-20-09 07:34pm - 5634 days | #13 | |
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GCode (0)
Active User Posts: 386 Registered: Feb 23, '09 Location: USA |
Hmm, I've been to quite a few 'up-scale' strip clubs in my area and it only costs me about $20-$30 for a lap dance. I dunno if these are the same kind of 'shows' everyone is talking about, but I could not even fathom giving any of these women $80 for a lap dance/show... Sexted From My iPad | |
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| 07-20-09 07:53pm - 5634 days | #14 | |
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David19 (0)
Active User Posts: 32 Registered: May 16, '08 Location: California |
Possibly so but one can weed out the less attractive ones--and I find the ones who act like they are on drugs to be less attractive--so much faster on a webcam than in a physical club. | |
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| 07-20-09 07:55pm - 5634 days | #15 | |
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David19 (0)
Active User Posts: 32 Registered: May 16, '08 Location: California |
But there's no nudity involved in a lap dance! And usually no touching! Online, by its nature, you can't physically touch but you can get the girls nude and get them touching themselves, usually long before the meter reaches $20-$30. And as I noted above, in cases where it DOES take the girl that long to get nude and start 'playing', I usually move on to someone else quickly. | |
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| 07-20-09 08:10pm - 5634 days | #16 | |
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GCode (0)
Active User Posts: 386 Registered: Feb 23, '09 Location: USA |
no nudity? I dunno where you're going but it's at least topless here and the stripper rubs herself all over the payer. Sexted From My iPad | |
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| 07-21-09 06:46pm - 5633 days | #17 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I again can't speak from experience but here in Quebec Canada. There is such a thing as 10$ dances. From what I gather there is some serious touching between both parties. It may be similar in other parts of Canda but I wouldn't know. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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