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| 10-14-09 07:53am - 5548 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Your Advice to Site Owners If you could offer just one piece of advice to porn site owners, what would it be? ps. If you got a notice this was a test thread, sorry. We were doing some testing and I didn't want the system to send yet another email so I just edited this last test. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson Edited on Oct 14, 2009, 07:58am | |
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| 10-14-09 08:28am - 5548 days | #2 | |
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ControllingMind (0)
Suspended  Posts: 52 Registered: Jan 29, '09 Location: Inside An Unseen Force |
In short, Don't try to take advantage of customers. You have to give if you want to receive. | |
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| 10-14-09 08:31am - 5548 days | #3 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
I tried to limit it to one thing, but I think it's a tossup as to what's more important to me. Treat your customers with respect and don't play games to get my money. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 10-14-09 08:34am - 5548 days | #4 | |
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topbucksGina (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 5 Registered: Jun 22, '07 Location: AZ/Tucson |
Keep your content fresh and keep up with the latest trends in technology. | |
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| 10-14-09 08:42am - 5548 days | #5 | |
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ControllingMind (0)
Suspended Posts: 52 Registered: Jan 29, '09 Location: Inside An Unseen Force |
^^^LOL Yes renewing old content does freshen things up. Does those latest trends in technology involve server mods to cut down members speeds? Edited on Oct 14, 2009, 08:58am | |
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| 10-14-09 10:17am - 5548 days | #6 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Listen to your customers & be responsive. Cap'n. :0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 10-14-09 11:10am - 5548 days | #7 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
Never forget that serving customers keeps you in business. You need them, but they can always find someone else. | |
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| 10-14-09 11:15am - 5548 days | #8 | |
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atrapat (0)
Active User  Posts: 182 Registered: Apr 19, '08 Location: Non-USA |
Never use regional pricing. | |
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| 10-14-09 11:24am - 5548 days | #9 | |
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mr3633 (0)
Active User Posts: 9 Registered: Mar 14, '08 Location: USA |
First and foremost, be an ethical company that is honest with your customers. Hint: I hope the Site Owners of incrediblepass.com and other ethically challenged sites read this. Fortunately, the vast majority of sites I have encountered have ethical business principles. Edited by Staff on Oct 14, 2009, 11:39am (Khan: Corrected format on URL) | |
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| 10-14-09 11:49am - 5548 days | #10 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User  Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
Give me a full preview that allows me to see every set for each model, this way, I'm not re-joining a site only to find out they stopped updating. It doesn't have to be a big picture for each set either. Just a small thumbnail so I can see how many new sets have been added that I would be interested enough in to re-join. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 10-14-09 02:01pm - 5548 days | #11 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I second this! Please be upfront about what you are and are not offering, and for what price. Also our thoughts on why pre-checked cross sales suck can be read here. If you cannot deliver on a promise, then simply don't offer it in the first place. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 10-14-09 07:44pm - 5547 days | #12 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User  Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
Have a very good search/index. Make the site enjoyable to be in. | |
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| 10-14-09 07:53pm - 5547 days | #13 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I'd say that honesty seems to be the best policy. 1-Don't try to get our money except through honest offers. You want to offer a cross sale than do so but be upfront and make sure that it's a good match for your customer base. 2-Don't charge more than what it's worth. Customer don't mind paying more for content and quality, but there is a point where the price simply does not reflect what's offered. A higher price will make more money in the beginning but you will never get repeat business or long term memebership. 3-Make sure your preview page matches what's inside. Lying about the content is sure to piss your new customer who will get an extreme pleasure in telling everyone that will listen about his displeasure. 4-Make sure you get a well known billing company. Nothing scares more a possible customer than giving his cerdit card info to a stranger. 5-New technlogy is a good idea but may not please all customers. I think that Hi-Def is a great idea for DVD's but not so much for internet downloads. I don't want files that were once 600Mb to now be 2Gb. It takes longer to download, requires more space and will eat my alloted free monthly download too fast. 6-Try to have exclusive content. Leasing stuff as filler is not a good idea. You live with exclusive content or die with leased crap. 7-Don't be affraid to pay staff and performers a decent salary. Happy people tend to do a better job than unhappy ones. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 10-14-09 09:59pm - 5547 days | #14 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Wow - one piece of advice to porn site owners: Think of a site that you would want to be a member of and model your site on that. I bet we'd wind up with more distinctive sites if owners followed that advice. | |
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| 10-15-09 02:53am - 5547 days | #15 | |
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Colm4 (0)
Active User  Posts: 117 Registered: Sep 22, '07 Location: Holland |
Don't use DRM or Streaming-only to protect your stuff. It may lessen piracy a bit, but it will hurt your reputation and you will lose more on lost memberships. | |
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| 10-15-09 01:05pm - 5547 days | #16 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Always have nice ass shots. To show you EXACTLY what I mean, click here (then see bottom row, 2nd from the left) and here (third row, 1st on the left) and here (1st row, 2nd from the left) and here (fourth row, third from the left) and here (2nd row, 2nd from the left) There's no ass-grabbing, no shower water, no cropping in the wrong places. The girl's face is quite visible, and her ass cheeks are both equally displayed. These are, in my opinion, excellent pics and there should be more of them! Satisfy the ass fanatics among us and reap your rewards! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 10-16-09 06:01am - 5546 days | #17 | |
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kkman112 (0)
Active User Posts: 56 Registered: Mar 31, '07 Location: United States |
I have a list actually: (clear's throat) 1. Don't do any unethical acts (forcing other sales when a user clicks on links they think is included content, jerking your users around, hidden charges, etc). 2. Absolutely, positively, 1000% NO DRM. It helps to be pirate-friendly because I use it (along with sites like this) to determine which sites I join. Getting a taste of a company's content is not a bad thing (especially considering some sites have REALLY crappy previews). 3. Offer a variety of sign-up options. Trial, 30-day rebill, and at least a 3-6 month non-rebill and 1+ year non-rebill is a big plus. Personally, I only go for the 6 month to 1 year deals anymore anyway. 4. HQ content. 1024 minimum picture size and DVD quality minimum video. I tend to prefer HD (720+) these days, but having low quality pictures and videos today is a big turn off. It's almost 2010 people, get with it! If you're not an amateur site, give some quality. 5. If it can be avoided, avoid caps. Typically, users who abuse are few and farther between and can be dealt with better on a case-by-case basis than restricting all users. 6. pat362's # 2 - Don't charge more than the content is worth. If you haven't seen the studies: Companies tend to make more profit on lowering prices and getting more customers at a lower profit margins level then at a higher price with higher profit margins. Ex: Product A sold at $60 ($35 markup) - 100 people buy Sales: $6,000 Cost: $3,500 Profit: $2,500 Product A sold at $30 ($5 markup) - 2000 people buy Sales: $60,000 Cost: $50,000 Profit: $10,000 -- In the end: Don't be afraid to test the waters and see what kind of market reaction you get! Test prices and sales go a long way! | |
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| 10-17-09 01:02pm - 5545 days | #18 | |
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GCode (0)
Active User  Posts: 386 Registered: Feb 23, '09 Location: USA |
One piece, make updates that are worth it. Too often, I see sites with a need to update everyday but this results in just bullshit updates or non-quality or non-erotic material. If minimizing to 1 or 2 updates a week will let the content dish out way better material, I'm all for it. However, if you can update daily or every other day or so on and can still keep qualiy material running, by all means please do so but once it seems to diminish, cut back. It will probably create stirs at the beginning but the real fans will understand and respect it, IMHO. Sexted From My iPad | |
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| 10-20-09 06:41pm - 5541 days | #19 | |
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Gspot Productio (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 4 Registered: Aug 13, '09 Location: United Kingdom |
Hi guys, We are proud to say that most of what you guys and girls want, maybe all is precisely how we do business. However, I would like to know a big issue thing with our main website at present. Im hoping you all could all give me an idea of whether one way or another would be your preference. At present, (my idea) we have set up all 6 websites in the 1 members area. A choice of either looking at all 6 in i frames in that page or text links to either of the 6. Because of the page opening with all 6 sites on it, you have to sign in 6times at the start. But this allows you to look through all 6 at the same time. Would you as a customer, prefer to login to each site individually or log in once, well 6 times at the beginning but then thats it??? Please, I would be very greatfull for straight answers whether this would be more preferable or annoying & should it be changed back to seperate pages where you log into whichever site you wish to look at. Many many thanks, Gary and Natalie K xxx http://arsewithclass.com 6 sites, 6 niches, 1 girl, 1 price http://southerncumsluts.com South British girls turned bad http://gspotcash.net | |
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| 10-21-09 02:06pm - 5541 days | #20 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I have to say I would prefer one log in to each site. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 10-23-09 11:45am - 5539 days | #21 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I don't quite understand. I am currently subscribing to a site that has 8 sub-sites, their links are all listed on the home page and all I have to do is sign in once to look at all of them. Isn't that how it is done with all multi-site networks? | |
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| 10-23-09 01:04pm - 5539 days | #22 | |
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kkman112 (0)
Active User Posts: 56 Registered: Mar 31, '07 Location: United States |
How about collection of all on one site -- one site login. Programming languages like PHP, Coldfusion, or ASP do wonders. That way you can offer all content under one site (or all under all sites), only one login at one site (even across domains using cookies / sessions), links between models and their associated videos and images, etc. It's not that difficult to learn. I do that at my job almost every day. You could even get a jump-start using a pre-build framework or CMS (Content Management System). A good example of a site that uses such things is Abby Winters. | |
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| 10-23-09 09:54pm - 5538 days | #23 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User  Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
The biggest thing by far, and I think it is a "catch all" that you guys will agree with, CHECK OUT PU! Come to this site, or others, and find out exactly what users are saying about your site. It just might be a good thing to know. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 10-26-09 10:23am - 5536 days | #24 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
My advice would be: "Put some d....d, erotic lingerie back on your models!" Going commando doesn't create quite the excitement you think it does. I have switched from being a pictures fan to video because every d....d picture set on every d....d site looks the same. Videos themselves are not far behind when it comes to mind numbing sameness .. most are shot to the same formula of "let's not waste any time or money on the preliminaries and concentrate on the action right from the first frame." Too many incompetents with cameras out there hoping to make a quick buck. When finally all of us get bored then what will you do with your picture sets and DVDs? | |
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| 10-26-09 10:54am - 5536 days | #25 | |
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OneMan (0)
Active User Posts: 29 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: Europe |
Never use Instant Upselling links....especially in the members area. These "money pixels" are the devils work and arguably not legal. When I find them, thankfully not that often, I will report them widely and never use that company again. It is disgusting. They are usually found in conjunction with Cross-Selling links on the Cancellation page....which again, is highly annoying ! | |
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| 11-01-09 08:56am - 5530 days | #26 | |
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picdude (0)
Active User Posts: 107 Registered: Dec 26, '08 Location: Italy |
My advice would be: Show each and every update on the preview page (a la Naughty america, Brazzers, Killergram etc) so before I join I have a good idea what you have (I've joined rubbish sites that have had good tours but I don't join any sites that have a bad tour) Other advice would be: Throw in extra's like erotic audio clips, behind the scenes, model interviews and advice, a favourite list to mark movies if you don't want to download them. Also as messmer said leave the clothing on longer far too often have I seen girls in amazing outfits throw them off at the earliest chance...eg why wear crotchless panties then take them off??? | |
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| 11-01-09 09:51am - 5530 days | #27 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Glad you mentioned that. One of my pet peeves! | |
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| 11-15-09 04:23pm - 5515 days | #28 | |
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DVtimes (0)
Active User Posts: 1 Registered: Nov 15, '09 Location: Leeds |
Please do not lissen to this fool he wife has sex with male modles with no certs or checks http://twitter.com/divvytimes | |
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| 11-15-09 04:28pm - 5515 days | #29 | |
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mrbancom (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 4 Registered: Aug 13, '09 Location: United Kingdom |
Interesting read. some good points https://www.pornusers.com/review/rosecabs/ https://www.pornusers.com/review/banfilth/ | |
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| 11-16-09 01:57am - 5515 days | #30 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User  Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Stop recycling scenes from dead sites, trying to pass em off as your own, also stop renaming actresses, what is the point of that? Also, stop trying to pass off screen grabs as high quality screenshots, sites KILL me with this shit, also, I dunno what the deal is with sites not having full videos, stop it, put the full video up along with the splits, some of us find it more convenient to down full scenes instead of scene piece by scene piece, it's ridiculous. I feel like walkin away from paying for porn, it's getting old, I am also tired of download speeds below 100kb, I have an 8gb line, I should not be downing at 80kb, WTF?! I am looking at you Porn.com, Brazilian Facials & Porn Pros, man I am gonna stop here. lol | |
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| 11-24-09 04:00am - 5507 days | #32 | |
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nostromo (0)
Active User Posts: 131 Registered: Sep 22, '07 Location: madrid/spain |
It is so freaking unfair... Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. H.L. Mencken. | |
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| 11-24-09 07:24am - 5507 days | #33 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
There is somewhat quite a similar thread, but I'll repeat myself: GET RID OF REGIONAL PRICING - AND HERE DEAL WITH CCBILL - first of all - CCBill is the scoundrel.... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 11-24-09 10:57am - 5507 days | #34 | |
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nostromo (0)
Active User Posts: 131 Registered: Sep 22, '07 Location: madrid/spain |
I believe that the Perfect Gonzo sites -All Internal and so forth- don't bill us in USDollars either -and they're not associated with CCBill- and the 21sextury and DDF sites haven't billed me in USD, thus we end up paying a lot more than our american friends. DHD Media is cool though, and the same can be said of Epoch according to some posters. Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. H.L. Mencken. | |
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| 11-25-09 09:03pm - 5505 days | #35 | |
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WeeWillyWinky (0)
Active User  Posts: 243 Registered: Jun 03, '07 Location: Havasu City, AZ USA |
- I would much rather join one very large, well-run site than a "network" of sites, where I generally ping-pong from one "site" to another because of the nagging suspicion that I am missing the good stuff "over there". Keep all the stuff on one site, offer a good search function and browse features, keep it simple. Use categories if necessary, defining niches as needed, but don't over-categorize (like Club Seventeen, for example). It just causes confusion, especially for those of us who can't remember what we looked at yesterday, or even two hours ago (hmm...old have we become...forgetful we are...hmmm...) - Give photos and videos distinct names or numbers, so that we can collect either without re-naming, and so we can keep track of what we've downloaded. - Offer some free samples on the tour pages. I can't count the number of "tours" that show me nothing at all and make nothing but a bunch of claims that are usually without merit. Also, if tour says "thousands of pics", we will assume the number of pics is somewhere around two thousand, if that. - Teach your camera-men to hold the camera straight once in a while. When the camera turns sideways for long periods of time, I will assume the guy behind it is more interested in making an impression than in making a watchable video. - A quiet camera-man is a good camera-man. You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! | |
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