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| 01-31-10 07:47am - 5439 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
A plead/request to the professional producers As much as I like mature models, I certainly go for those easteuro/euro-teens. We see them at sites like teensexmovs, myteenvideo or my18teens - among others. All sites with a production-quality, editing ect. that's far from great. Girls/models like: http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/ariel2.html http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/rio.html http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/willa.html ..would be welcome at more professional sites like 21Sextury, DDF and even Bangbros and RealityKings ect.. Some of them have taken in a few of those newer easteuro teenmodels, like: http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/sasha_2.html Sasha came from and started at these somewhat lame productions - but here 21Sextury and even DDF saw the potentials - a lot of both hc/bg and solo-material is just great. And of course those sites picked Sasha Rose up from the the other sites in mention, so: If I ran sites like 21Sextury or DDF, I'd go for contracts with more of these teens - as mentioned above....(and a lot others). Everybody into porn always look for NEW models/material, so. "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Jan 31, 2010, 07:54am | |
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| 01-31-10 09:30am - 5439 days | #2 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I can see where you are going with your idea for contracts stars but I'm not sure if there are any internet contract stars in America or for that matter anywhere else. There are only a few studios that have contract stars but not many. I believe the concept of contract stars is becoming less popular. In large part because many of those that went through the system realised how much they were shafted by their studios. The chance to get a steady paycheck and having a studio to promote your material looks really good in the beginning but then you start to realise that you only make a couple of movies a year, so you get less exposure than a non-contract star that has a minimum of 1 and often it's more than one movie released each month. You have to do only studio appearances so that closes the door to many other venues that might have been opened to you. The studio owns your name and image so trying to leave them can, and sadly will, often involve serious legal problems. Since most girls are at their hotest in the beginning of their career and that's when you can make most of your big money then lingering in a studio contract for a couple of years may mean a steady paycheck but less overall money than freelancers. Another reason why having a star attached to only one network or studio is that if you don't like their content then it will only frustrate you when you find out that your hot new girl has signed with them exclusively. A large part of why Sasha Rose is popular is because she has appeared on many sites and movies and we have seen her. The other part is that she's willing to do almost anything. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-31-10 10:48am - 5439 days | #3 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
Denner, my guess would be that some of these models are located in parts of eastern europe that some of the production companies you spoke of don't have operations in - and might not consider it cost effective to travel or have the models travel to them. The models you listed were all Russian, and I seem to remember a lot of the DDF eastern-euro girls being Czech or Hungarian. Depending on where in Russia these girls are, that could be pretty damn far from Budapest or Prague (Where I think both DDF and 21sextury are located). Damn, that first sentence is really long, oh well, I don't feel like fixing it... slutty Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 01-31-10 01:01pm - 5439 days | #4 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
I think it's quite simple, in fact - many wellknown russian, ukrainian ect. models started up at minor sites - like Sasha Rose ( white russia) at went on those major sites - Rio/Lopes ( Russia, too)went on to AV Erotica and Nubiles ect. (just to mention some) - and MetArt have some former totally unknown models from those countries. But time will show if we'll see those models (Ariel, Willa and Rio) at major/more major sites... BTW: It's from these countries some top-sites get their models - and not only through agencies or 'agencies' in Prague or Budapest - I've heard that photographers go to Kiev and St. Peterburg "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Jan 31, 2010, 01:07pm | |
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| 01-31-10 01:58pm - 5439 days | #5 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
True Messmer, Perhaps the big sites just aren't as keen on the younger lithe models as you and I are! slutty Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 01-31-10 02:06pm - 5439 days | #6 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I think since the higher end sites generally produce more professional content--or at least have the money to do so--they prefer models with a little more name recognition or experience under their belts than brand new unknown models. I could be wrong but I thought both 21st Sextury and DDF shoot numerous relatively new models, though they do not make up the majority of their models. These sites are not amateur and so shooting a lot of girls who are essentially amateurs would not make much sense. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 01-31-10 02:22pm - 5439 days | #7 | |
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anyonebutme (0)
Active User  Posts: 294 Registered: Aug 23, '09 |
There is a lot more that goes into this. Ukraine has become very active in stopping porn production in that country. In Russia porn is still technically illegal to produce, to sell, though they don't have any procedures to enforce the law. But still, that is why many just do not want to move into Russia and start shooting. Many other factors, pay rates are much lower in Russia than in Budapest or Prague, so those shooting in Russia try to hang on to their girls for as long as possible. More Russian girls are starting to do more filming in Budapest and Prague now. And then there are other legal barriers. The U.S. about a year ago greatly relaxed restrictions on people from many European countries (Czech & Hungary included) in the legalities of coming into the country and work a job. But there are still tight restrictions that it is difficult for a Russian girl to come into the U.S. for temporary work. It's not that the big producers of the U.S., Czech, & Hungary are ignoring the Russian girls, it's more there are greater barriers between them and the girls. | |
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| 01-31-10 02:34pm - 5439 days | #8 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I can't think of any Internet contract stars either, and if there are it's only because the site is from the studio to which the girl is contractually obligated. Even a lot of these solo sites that are centered around a single model don't look like they're the sole employers of these models. My best guess would be there are few sites who can realistically afford to contract a girl for more than a few months, especially considering they can bring in so many more new faces in such a short amount of time and then bring them back if they choose. Why make a girl exclusive to your site or network when the demands and accessibility of the Internet make it so easy for salivating customers to look elsewhere? The few lucky girls who get contracts remind me of stories of Hollywood's old studio system where studios had a lot of control over actors, essentially owning them as intellectual property of the studio. In the Hollywood of today that's probably next to impossible if a hot young star is valuable enough that he or she can get deals without having to bargain with one company. The world of porn (not just the Valley) is not Hollywood. For one thing all the sodomy is done onscreen, but more seriously with much of the economy down the toilet what's the point in paying one girl a seven figure income just so she's exclusive to the studio? Will the return be worth it? For the models, particularly ones who are fresh out of high school and not leaving for Harvard, I would say that signing a contract is more often than not a great deal. You can't argue with that kind of money just for screwing and showing off your hoo-ha on camera. It's ultimately fewer movies, though probably a ton of promotional bullshit, but a great deal considering the workload or even just the guarantee of work for a set amount of time. Considering it's porn I am sure there are some fuck-nut clauses that have to be seen to be believed but until some starlet tells 'her story' plenty of girls will be signing contracts when they are offered. My view is that when someone is offered that kind of money it's not so bad to accept, and if they spend it all shortly thereafter then that's their problem. My problem with contract girls is not so much that tend to do less work but less variety of work, particularly the crazier Internet-only content so many of us at PU praise. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 01-31-10 02:44pm - 5439 days | #9 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
So I guess the morons at the U.S. State Department have seen some Eastern Euro models but not any Russian ones. Maybe if they browse through a photo set of Sasha Rose or watch one of her videos they will change their minds. I know I certainly would sign virtually any international agreement if it brought more girls like Sasha to the U.S. ;) I am a little surprised that Russia restricts porn. I know they are pretty tough on free speech, especially the press, but considering their near zero population growth (it's only started to rise in the last couple of years) you would think they would want to get a lot more people in the mood to fuck and have more babies but maybe not. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 01-31-10 05:57pm - 5439 days | #10 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Another big thing that might stop Russian or for that matter many Eastern European girls from coming to America is that these girls can't be sure that the guys offering thema job isn't some white slaver and that once she takes the offer she winds up drugged out of her mind and selling her body on a Paris street. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 02-02-10 06:13am - 5437 days | #11 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Well, amigos - just an apropos/with reference to (looked it up in my danish/english dictionary -hope it's right): Talk about the global thing - also with porn. Now Sasha Rose (russian) even got into: https://www.thebestporn.com/review/lazonamodelos/ (probably non-exclusive - but not sure) She COULD pass as latin - but what the heck...she's got a great video here, anyway.. So another plead, this time to the same producer: it would be great to see also: http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/ariel2.html http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/rio.html The last one even got an alias: RIO AND this NEW cutie: http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/nicole_4.html "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Feb 02, 2010, 07:35am | |
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| 02-07-10 09:57am - 5432 days | #12 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Guess you've all heard about the uproar and the election in Ukraine - not really off topics here, because accoridng to the latest infos Kiev (capital) in Ukraine is more and more the porn/sex capital in the old eastern Europe - taking over from Prague and Budapest. http://www.go2kiev.com/view/femen.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQBE2WuCOyM Again: guess this user was not entirely wrong about the predict of this russian area as the new porn-place... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Feb 07, 2010, 10:00am | |
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