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09-23-08  05:47am - 5896 days Original Post - #1
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The Porn Laws On Location??????

Thinking n Trying 2 start a web site.


Does anyone no the laws about as to where porn can be filmed.

Let me explain . Ive signed up 2 at least 50 Sites almost all the porn ive seen iz filmed in Florida or California.


My buddy said that U cant film porn in alot of states. Also said it had 2 be filmed n only like 3 states.


Question 1 Does anyone no the laws about filming and starting a WebSite?


Basically Can i record porn in virgina to start a website?



Does anyone no also where to get like the contract between Porn stars and who ever is paying them. Or iz it something that a lawyer wud write up??


Please if anyone nose if i can start a web site in va. As in record some of virginia beachs finest raw talent As in exclusive material. Iz this possible or iz it more to this than meats the eye???


And of course if darealkiddz website iz luckier nuff to get off the ground i sure wont 4get about my fellow pornusers. To show how much i care 4 my peers here at pu


All of u will get half off the monthly membership.


So shoot sum ideas...

09-23-08  06:23am - 5896 days #2
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A webmaster forum would be a more appropriate place for this type of discussion. But this one time, I'll see if I can help point you in the right direction.

First off, you really need to contact a lawyer before moving ahead with your project. You'll need to make sure you cover your ass with regards to model releases, 2257 record keeping, etc.

Also note, getting content is only one part (the easiest part, actually) of having a successful adult site. Be ready to work very long hours for quite a while before you see any return on your investment of money or time.

Technically, if you're shooting hardcore in the US, you'll need to be in CA ... southern CA to be more exact. That's the only place it's been tested in the courts. Otherwise, you open yourself up to pandering / pimping charges if you arrange sex for money.

As far as shooting porn in Va Bch ... I wish you luck. Remember if you're shooting girls from the beach you may find the same problems as the Girls-Gone-Wild bunch. As it happens, I shot softcore stuff in that area about 10 years ago. Don't know about now but back then, the papers were funny about what kind of ad (for models) you could run. You may also find some zoning issues since much of Va Bch politics was (is?) heavily influenced by the CBN group.

But again, talk to a lawyer who's familiar with the adult web before you go too far down that path.


PS. BTW, if you open ANY adult site, you'll no longer be eligible to have a PornUsers User account. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator
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09-23-08  07:30am - 5896 days #3
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This is and admirable venture for sure.
A few years ago I looked into doing this
with some investors.
When we bought a key porn site name ( still own it but is inoperable for years just a name no porn site) years ago.

I agree with Khan on this the shooting and even the website and getting a Good deal on a server isn't the hardest part. Its getting all the legal ducks in a row.

There are many variables, even if you know of a person running a website from VA, they may have or been exempt due to some grandfather clause in a law. Its important to realize that yearly over the last 10 year the INTERNET has been popular, states are learning about regulating and applying laws. So the case of opening a site needs to be current on laws and regulations in its operations.

I live in the northwest and this was a impossibility, we even tried leasing a server elsewhere and still no luck.
Now its not possible by any means.
What many do is shoot where they shouldn't be.
And thats gonna leads to trouble.
I have heard of several low end studios up in Seattle doing just this and reselling to areas that are legal.
Making a dangerous situation legally get them in hot water.

I have about 15 (non porn) sites I run
and even running these is time consuming to say the least.
So would be a 24/7 job for awhile.

Wish you luck in all this, just remember to watch your own ass before you watch the girl's (wink)
It may save it if you are diligent.


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09-23-08  10:15pm - 5895 days #4
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There are a lot of things I love about Virginia, but their big ol' list of sex laws definitely isn't one of them. Technically intercourse between anyone who is not married is still on the books as a misdemeanor, though this was found to be unconstitutional a few years back.

Regarding porn though -- defined as "obscene" -- it is also illegal: here and here.

You might possibly be able to shoot in Virginia if there was no way to prove the material was ever actually captured there, but this would be a big legal risk. VA is just not the place for making porn (well, neither is most of the US as you mentioned), and the laws are pretty Draconian to say the least.

Remember: Virginia is for lovers...as long as they are married, straight, and decent. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Sep 23, 2008, 10:20pm

09-24-08  12:22am - 5895 days #5
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Thanks Khan you have helped me a great deal.But hearing this was a big let down. Only because n the back of my mind for the last couple years I ben thinking that i can makee it in the porn industry with a small website. Ive ben looking at porn for 15yrs. Internet porn for bout 7yrs. Downloading for only about 4yrs.


Anyway Ive always had a way of making some extra money off of selling porn weather it b when i started with VHSz then of corse DVDz. Yea i had a budddy who worked n a adult dvd store. I wud go in there n get arond 25 DVDz N i wud give him like a hundred bucks. Hey this was also 5or6 years ago so that was a pretty killer deal back then. But now you cant give dvdz away.I wud do that like twice a week for several months so u can imagine my collection grew very fast. I was making copies of em n selling em 5 bucks each or 3 for ten. N even when i wud go to work i wud carry a book full of dvdz with me and a portable dvd player to show the buyer that they were legite. N im a good salesman i wud spot my next custermer from across the parkin lot.


Anyhow ive even sold a couple of good friendz external hard drives for like i told em buy the hard drive give me a couple hundred bucks n return il give you a few hundred gigz off high def porn most a my collection iz softcore maserbation n high def. N their aint to much left out there for me to get off the web so whats next for the kidd who nose.


In i no u got a lot of post to read so i wont keep boring u with my whatever u wana call it. Senseless input i guess u cud call it.



All rite thankx again Khan. Oh yea it wasnt gona b hardcore all softcore. I still have a few questions but i now know that i need to start with a lawyere.

09-24-08  01:51am - 5895 days #6
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Yo whats up Cybertoad. Ive ben reading a lot of replys and forums for da last couple months. N yes ive seen quite a few of yours and you sound like some one i wud get along with. as in you sound cool like me.


Yea it sounds like its more to it then i thought. But i goda keep hope alive cuz miracles happen. Im soon to be walking true miracle. That iz if they ever give me a prostetic.


Yea ure kinda like me az in we both have past addictions yours was booze in mine was i had a need for speed and weed.You no u cant have a single drink or ul b back on da wagon.I no I cant get high anymore or il b back on da wagon.As n speed meth and/or cocaine high.


But dam I smoke my share of trees but dam u really cant blame me my parrents n all my friends support me of smoking trees. Let me in light in u a lil bit bout dakidd n yes i am a very good speller its i choose to spell thingz the way i do becuz das how it sounds. I jus didnt want u to think i was sum friggin idiot. Im accually very smart n at da same time very stupid.


Now tell me this how u gon b da smartest dude in va n all at da same time da dumbest dude in va.



Well i was in a pretty almost fatal motorcycle accident last thanksgivingDont no reaqlly y im telling u all this but its 4 a clocjk in da morning n i hardly sleep in theres no one around n da porn is finally getting old to me. I never thought id hear my self say that.


Anyway i no i jump around on topics but das jus hhow my brain works espicially since my accident. It was thanksgivin day last year when i wrecked do n over a hundred miles an hour. Not sure b cuz i remember nothing about the accident but i no how fast i normally go on da interstate90 or a hundred. Hell ive had my bike up to 161 people say thats ubserd.


Anyhow i wake up out of a coma for a few days have al ready had several opperations on my face and skull and both arms had multiple fractures yep even today i have scars on both arms from my wrists up to my elbows i cudnt use either arm for several months I still cant move my left arm at all but i can move my hand and fingers i mean i cant make a fist or anything but hey im keeping it. Yea th docs are talking bout cutting off my arm or is it worth keeping for da lil bit of use u have of ur hand. They all ready cut off my right leg they took half my kneecap ont on my left leg which is my best limb. Not to mention Splittin my pelvis open 4 inchs.


Let me tell u da doctors arent always right they make mistakes just like us normaql people. Hey they told me im only sapose to use my right hand n arm 4 transfers. u no from my bed to my wheelchair transfers. They said if i break what theve put in my arms then we wud back ware we startyed at least with da rght are. Its missing a big piece of bone sapose to hace another surgery on it. Its weird cuz it hurts like a beotch. I no i make no sense but hey wud u if u ben threw what ive been threw. proly not either.


ive fell like twice since i ben home from da hospital. I wuzz in their for 3 months. Ive done without pain pillz 4 a couple months now. N theve switched up my antidepressents bout 5 or 6 times. I think their helping me go crazy.

Im actually doin a lot bed r then i sound i can hop arond da house if i wanted to. But u goda be extra careful when doin so cuz when u trip 4 anyreason u have no way of catching urself.

example bout a month ago I was bout to hop n my truck my girl pushis me up to the door as usuall and its a concrete driveway n i happen to b ware theres a lil lip ware da concrete meets da grass long story short cuz im gon go over to karups and download sum shit n a minute. Anyway my foot caught da lip n i had no choice but to go down hard on dA CONCRETE.


jUST last week i qwuz over a buddys hose n flip backwards n knocked my left sholer out of sockett. N it kills me n i no their jus try n 2 b nice but they say are u ok are u ok. Im like n what if im not they say does it hurt im like dam rite it hurts but it aint nuthin none of us can do about it. and who wants to hear sum one complain all the time. Not me

The way i c it iz no matter how much pain im in it really dont matter cuz i shudnt b here n da first place.


God iz good and god iz real cuz i cudnt figure ouy y god wud leave me here all screwed up. I no exactly y even though i do drugz or did drugz. i was left here for my 2 daughters ages 4 n 7. Plus a boy to teach him rite from wrong cuz his dad died bout a year b 4 my accident but he told me he wanted me to take care of his son more then anybody on earth.


Thats another hole deal all 2 gether. Try to imagine i ben with my girl 4 bout ten years. She left me bout 4 years ago for this dude who she ends up having aboy with who iz know. My girl has lost her dad 5yrs ago her mom yrs ago and her man she was with for 4 years n boy she mmite not wud of made it if i had died. She actually got a call from the women who stopped to help me And she got da bad news alomg with my mom dad Who ever she cald people from my phone and the ambalance took 0 minutes to get their in this woman iz breAKIN DAS NEWZ to my family . meanwile my girl was rushing to da hospital she was saying please lord she said she cud not have went home n told my girlz that their dad was gone . We werent even together at da time of my accident but she was living at my dadz i didnt live their 4 a couple years b 4 da wrexck.


Every thing happens 4 a reason i mean i had about 4 girlfriends b4 i wrexcked but now only one A couple questions that use to bug me but no lomger do iZ am i only with her b cuzz i wrecked grant it shes bwen a life saver since my wreck and weve gotten back together since my wreck and on da other hand she really loved her man and if he was still alive she wud proly still b wit him and whos to say that if i didnt wreck i proly wudnt b wit her.


Any way i gave u sum food for thought. but goda go find a snack now.


Oh yea u say u run like 15 sites (non porn)

Mite i ask what kind of sites and da next question do u make money with them???

Other then all that dont take life for granite cuz u never no what can happen n a flash.

Guess i got a load off my chest i cud go on for days proly write a book about my life if i wanted.

And its also cool be n able 2 say any thing n not have to worry about any consacuinceiz cuz werll proly nevr meet so i dont no what da hell im rambling on about

N stay away from alcohol n stay cool Cybertoad....


N now u no a lil bit about DAREALKIDD!!!!!!

09-24-08  02:07am - 5895 days #7
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oh yea i read my post and ure proly wondering a couple typing errors . Da main one iz my three doesent work but anyhow it sapose to b a three n front of 0 az in it took da abulance thirty minuts to get there and also shoul b a three ware it says her mom died yrs ago it sapose tosay three.

09-24-08  07:11am - 5895 days #8
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Originally Posted by darealkidd:


All rite thankx again Khan. Oh yea it wasnt gona b hardcore all softcore. I still have a few questions but i now know that i need to start with a lawyere [sic].



If it's strictly softcore, you may still be able to move ahead. As far as your other questions, if you'll do a Google search on "adult webmaster resource" I'm sure you'll find several sites that can help.

If I might add ...

I'm a bit concerned that you mention that you bootlegged DVD's and are selling hard drives full of porn you've downloaded. Both are illegal activities, of course. Not only is it copyright infringement but you've also put yourself in the postilion of distributing porn without proof of age for the models. You may want to rethink these activities as I'm guessing the last thing a person in your condition needs is some huge fines and/or jail time.

My big concern is that those who find it easy to rationalize illegal activities don't generally add much to the online porn industry. When they don't see money coming in quickly, they often turn to the "dark side" and we end up with yet another creep stealing content and ripping off surfers. We have more than our share of creeps in this industry so you'll understand if I'm not anxious to see their numbers grow.

So, by all means, consult with a lawyer and see what your options are. But, if you're not the type who's going to be willing to wait until you've built a web business to (legally) earn some returns, then please do us all a favor and take up another vocation.

Sorry if this sounds harsh but I've been helping new webmasters for well over a decade now and unfortunately, have seen more than my fair share go to the dark side. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator
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09-24-08  09:11am - 5895 days #9
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Yep I again agree with Khan here ( whats wrong with me lol ) Just kidding.
But seriously, over the years I have had huge free access through friends toi get this stuff for free. While honestly I took a few freebies, i knew that it would not be good if I kept it up sharing my stuff and getting it, but that was many years ago about the time I was looking at the new possible site and thought about sneaking some of my collection in it . Way before the law looked at the net. But I ended up not doing the site and doing the right thing. Bootlegging is still popular on limewire and others and its not a good idea to share or get used porn, many .mov files are tagged ( read news groups ) by the industry to sell the ips to Adult owners so they can track what you download from them and what you share illegally. I have heard its only the largest sites for now, hustler , playboy etc. But be careful what you get it may come attached.

My own sites,
Hmmm for those of you that are judgemental do not read farther, cause I do not want to hear it.

I run several free sites , one is a Christian based site where it helps you adjust AA with the Bible, and I even went to theology school. NO....this is not a conflcit for me, and if you think being a member here at PU is a sin screw you the reader because I do not care if you think this is cool or not to mix it. I look at it this way, My God gave me this ability and if hes not happy with what we do ( if you beleive in God ) then you / I can deal with that youselves and him if needed, ( I do not need to I already talk with him about it), I have and I am ok with my life , better then ok and I have a great relationship wth my higher power. And I am honest with him about how I deal and feel in my life.

Other sites are a free in all nature, so to answer the question everything I do is free for ppl. I run and own a airport website. Shows ppl incoming life flight you can even listen in.

I have my oldest site that I use for stuff like blogs etc.
Just fun stuff.

But all free and non adult related.

Hey sorry all to be harsh and go off on this one thought.
But I go to forums in adult sites and see one poster saying we will all go to hell for being members at a porn site.

Then I sit back and wonder what the hell is this guy talking about he had to join the adult site he's posting in. And obvioulsy isnt happy with his God's relationship as hes on the war path of judegement. Probably the type whom also condemns porn and screws the family dog or some twisted crap.
People at PU are usually honest and I respect that.

Final note as I went off topic, if you are not happy watching porn then find out why. Porn is just the industry nice word for what is mentally always in our minds from the start to enjoy the opposite sexes body .

Ok thats my soap box.


Cybertoad. Since 2007

09-24-08  09:34pm - 5894 days #10
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Look dude you talk like i hurt da porn industry. If you think my lil 500dvdz bootlegz at that really hurt da porn industry. Let me us say ure wrong. Most da people that i sold em to was squids sailors in a titty bar that were half drunk. In man u should a seen how happy dem GUMPS were to get 5 six hour movies for twenty bucks. I like to to no i helped sum one out with a chance to get sum porn for twenty bucks.



Let me allso throw out there that it took me six hours to make one movie. I didnt mass produce as n burn a hundred or thousand how ever many u think i put out there.


Yea i was trying to make a lil change off the dvdz. N dam can u blame me dvdz shud not of cost as much as they did. I mean the average working man could never have any kind a collection paying 15.99 to 29.99.


Long story short version. Im not even on da same page as these dark sided people u mentioned. AAz a matter of fact im not even in da same book az them. Y i am getting technical we aint even n da same library. I was a minnow.


And as far as u saying i said i put hard drives all over da place n killing da porn industry. U sound like im giving it away all da time. I dont want any porn 4 free (cuz there iz no freeporn).N i aint trying to steal shit in turn around and make a buck.


I wud give none of my porn away for free to any body i didnt no. The only drives ive put out there u can count on one hand let me add these are close friends who seen a lil peek at what i was doing all the time. They was like can u hook me up I was like sure buy a three hundred or so gig external hard drive Give it to me and a hundred bucks 4 my time and one friend did pay 2 hundred my other buddy payed nothing. He does all kinda shit for me. .


Ni no them very well at their house all the time so i no they dont have any other intentions but to watch it. And 2 even gave it back after a couple months n ask if i cud fix em up with sum new different shit to look at. In these friends are pratically cmputer illiterit. But once i showed em how to view all his stuff with ust a couple clicks they said hey i can do thAT.


in i think cybbertoad mentioining wouldnt it b ok if as long as after i copy the drive to a new drive in sold it. Wouldnt it b ok if i erased mine afterwards.


Im ust killing sum time on here communicating with people like me who i didnt no were out there until recentlly.







i do apporeciate all you guideance. At least now i no which direction to head. In im not trying to use any of my stuff i have.


My plans were to basically run an opperation like ametuersupskirt u no da one ware dude shoots all his own footage basically a one man crew.


I had a vision i was thinking i bet this dude is doing financially fine n his site really sucks .He has every scene da same every scene da same music n dam da girls take 20 or 0 minutes to streip in they mite show u their tiddies for one minute al the end he had the rite idea but he didnt no ......... well ul see here soon hopefully .



Screw it i thought i had a good idea n didnt wana share it wit somebodsy cuz dey could steal my idea.



Hell i dont think enuff people are gona read this to really ever matter. N some one takes my idea n runs with it. Hey more power to u. I aint no player hater.

So here it iz.


I ust got a ssi check for any wat i got 15k my mom n dad both said if i do get seerious about dis idea they wud throw in 5k a piece das enuff i thought to get started i wuz gona shoot everything myself (all softcore) I all ready have plenty of girls ready to give me scenes a shower scene a masterbatrion scene n like a stripping outdoors scene. hell i mite az well throw n a peeing section. I no a couple escorts n da dc area who no lots of talent they can bring me. N i planned on paying the girls 2 to 5 hundrwed bucks depending on their looks, expieriance, etc. Meanwhuile that wud b exclusive content n yes i wud be pissed if i did get a site up and a couple weeks later my shit iz all over the net for free.


So when u talk about this dark side i hope u havent pushed people that way by closing the door in their face.


I was trying to do it the rite way of corse.


WUZ TRYING n what IF LETS SAY


I mean lets say i was standin on da edge of the dark side Just waiting for some one to push me... THIS IZ JUST AN EXAMPLE;;; tELL me how u wud of helped the porn industry had u gave me that extra nudge to say screw it im a take a walk on DA wild oops i mean DARK side.


Same EXAMPLE NOW UVE DONE DID IT AND NOW im puting hard drives every where Il turn into santa clause n b givivg away 500 gig drives n ust saying merry christmas giving em out everyware N no cybertoad i aint referring to no limewire bullshit. Ctoad let me tell you limewire was like tee ball 2 me i dont even consider that porn in i didnt think any body here did either.

heres a couple of sites ive oined in the last couple years;;
I guess i shud start wit sum a my favs like
FTVGIRLS
SCORELAND
NUBILEEZ
PINK
ONLYBREAST
INFOCUS
RONHARRIS whoz a joke but has the best high def vids out there
ONLY CUTIES
ASSTRAFFIC
TEENDREAMS
ALSSCAN toothpick girls but it is dam good quality vids.
TEENHDV
ASBBYWINTERZ
18CLOSEUPS
BABEALICIOUS
CHERRYSPOT
THEYDIDNTKNOW
AMATUERSUPSKIRTS
TWISTYZ
XISTYZ
GIRLSLUVTOYZ
SECRETVIRGIN
BLUEFANTASIES
MCNUDES
GIRLZNFINGERZ
BUSTYAMATUERS
PLAYBOY
FINESTMODELS Edited on Sep 24, 2008, 09:56pm

09-24-08  11:02pm - 5894 days #11
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tHEY SAID I WAS OUT OF ROOM

Well one site that i really cant stand MACANDBUMBLE
ANYWAY IVE CLEANED OUT


BANGBROZ REALITYKINGZ BRAZZERZ NAUGHTYAMERICA
THOSE FOUR WILL KEEP U BUSY FOR A WHILE

My big concern is that those who find it easy to rationalize illegal activities don't generally add much to the online porn industry. When they don't see money coming in quickly, they often turn to the "dark side" and we end up with yet another creep stealing content and ripping off surfers. We have more than our share of creeps in this industry so you'll understand if I'm not anxious to see their numbers grow.


Im bout done i ust have two questions.

Da first is for khan how do think u wud benefit or help the porn industry had i ben on da edge in u gave me the push i needed to go to the DARKSIDE I wiped all them sites out i mentione many more DABOINK AQSSSMOTHIE Many dollar trials.

Now i turn into santa clause like i spoke about earlier what if i turned into him cuz u pushed me.N even tell people i give hardrives to too also copy hard droives in pass hell ask around im sure i cud give out plenty.



Now remember it iz only an example but how did u help the industry if youve helped push people toward the DARKSIDE not that you have but if you did??????



Question number 2 iz for you cybertoad ALL I WANA NO WITH ALL THIS FREE SERVICE N BUYING COMPUTERS N PAYING FOR PORN U DO.

HOW IN DA HELL DO U EAT PAY RENT BUY STUFF IF U DO EVERYTHING FOR FREE in u cant possibly have time for a job the way it sounds like you life is going i dnt no how u find time to eat.

N yea i can respect honestly and im one of the most straight forward todapoint honest guyz ul proly ever chat with in here.


Maybe i shudnot have threw god out there like that cuz GOD iz a deep subject.lots of different beliefs none of us can say one belief iz bedr then da other.

U also state that your life iz ok u even said its bedr then ok.

Hey all i was saying to any porn user out there who life iz go n great. ust dont take it for granite cuz u dont no what u got till its gone.

I use to b like you with a great life i mean i stil love my life cuz im here god left me here for a reason.

I think u missed da hole point.

Imagine ctoad u ben independent for years loved working on all kinds of things fefinishing furniture builing decks got ure own garage loves hammering nails screweing boards u alsoi keep everything very organized....stay with me


tomar u get in an accident they cut your right leg off take half da left knee cap have no use of either arm THE POINT IZ U CANOT EVEN IMAGINE BEING IN A WHEEL CHAIR 35YRS OLD DEPENDING ON YOUR MOM AND DAD TO FEED u bath u help u sit up help u get dressed basically help u with everything aftr not needing their help for many years.Dont 4get b4 you accident you didnt ask nobody for shit didnt need any ones help.U no to big of a man.MR MACHO that was me now u have to ask for everything in sitting in you room n its a mess and everything iz outa place but it aint shit you can do about and u was a organizing fool. Everything was in its proper place oh and you cooked for yourself in u made da bombest food.us no that no one can do things the way you want them done or the way u wud do it U HAVE NO CLUE HOW FRUSTRATING THAT CAN B not to mention u cant play n hug your kidz like you want to or like you use to .

I no i aint the one screwing the family dog n all that.

Im with you in loving the oppisite sex and whatever else you said i agree with you a hundred percent.

Cybertoad N be honest can u imagine 2mar waking up having no leg both arms out of commission HOW FRUSTRATING THAT WUD BE?????


aND HOW DO U PAY YOU BILLS IF YO RUN ALL DEM SITES FOR FREE ?????

iM jUS CURIOUS with building computers downloading porn n runnin all dem free sites i no u cudnt possibly have time for a job.


Ive said enuff for one nite
darealkidd has rambled on once again.

N i hope i didnt offend any one dam i havent got much else to do. N no im not looking for anyones sympathy either and If you got sum suggesstions for me im all earz??????

09-25-08  10:49am - 5894 days #12
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As you seem quite comfrotable with your rationalizations, I won't say more on that subject.

As I've said, PornUsers is NOT the place for these types of discussions. I will again suggest that you do a search for webmaster resources. You should be able to collect enough info BEFORE you invest much money. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator
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09-25-08  09:13pm - 5893 days #13
badandy400 (0)
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I would be a little more careful about saying those sort of things online, here or anywhere for that matter. People being sued for downloading music (whether or not they did is irrelevant) literally every day. The average settlement is $3000. By merely mentioning that you did, previously or otherwise, can draw unwanted attention to yourself. I would hate to see you end up getting sued over it, or have this site condemned because people are discussing it here.

The guy who made DVD-Decrypter had his site taken away and every move he makes on the internet, including instant messages, is recorded and reviewed. He has no privacy now!

So, I honestly do not care what you do or what you believe is okay to do. Just do not do it here and risk any sort of fallout for this site and/or the rest of its users. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~

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09-25-08  11:15pm - 5893 days #14
darealkidd (0)
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Dude i wuz us passing time i didnt think u people were so up tight. N as far az b n sued dude u bout made me bust a gut n fall out my wheelchair laffin my ass off. Oh yea i didnt think yall thought i was serious i was ust goofin off.

Im a big soon 2 b a 50year ol kid thats ben over the hill for a while. Any how im a Shit talkin bipolar insomniac with a brain injury one leg having and one arm having wheelchair bound pscisafrenic pill poppin baby.


Hell i only go out 5 times a week in thats 3 for phisical therapy and 2 iz for my psycyATRIST.



I understand you guyziz concern for me but yall cant c da hole picture.

I guess i shud of picked somethin else to do on the web than this but i thought it was kinda cool. But dam im really starting to worry about these aligations i made.

In to b honest there really aint a huge population here. Grant it you mite say theres tghousands of useres meanwhile go threw the forum or threads what ever da hell yall wana call em and u c da same names badandY toADSIT5H CDYBEERTOAD thers a couple more but yall get my point.

So i guess i qwuz ust try n 2 b cool in fit in u guyziz lil club here yall got go n on but i didnt think yall wuz so up tight. Loosen up i lil have a drink smoke a oint hell even go out in get sum strange this weekend


Im ust kiddin around with this hole deal do not do any of that stuff i uast told u to do cuz i wuz us kiddin.

Im sorry i goda say not guilty buy da way of insanity and i got da papers to prove it.

Stay cool badandy and cybertoad and khan make sure u keep everything runnin smoothe.

U still didnt ansir da question khan How do u help da industry if you pushed some one to da darkside that wuz leaning either way????

U proly didnt ansir it cuz its a ignorant question by an ignorant person..

Thumbs up 4 khan everyone in im b n serious. He deserves it. It proly really dont even matter if i give sum reviews cuz no bodyz gona b leave me but anyhow we"ll us have to see...

The enterprise has ust landing i goda go let mr spock in.

over and out darealkidd

09-25-08  11:28pm - 5893 days #15
Cybertoad (0)
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I would say as a last comment on this,
ANYONE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Don't bootleg, and if you do its risky at best.
If You do you will get caught maybe not now but if its
continued it will happen.

Giving porn away is the same as selling it, if you make copys and give it, its still bootlegging. Hence Napster shut down and Limewire investigations.
I'm not making this stuff up. Odd are you wont get caught , but you also could.

Would I like free porn sure, but I wouldnt do it because A: it does hurt and raises prices and B: its just not cool.
These porn stars are already abused in this system at times, many getting $250- 750 and thats it a shoot if their lucky.

Only top names make the big buck, its just like hollywood ppl B actors get B pay.

So anyone that bootlegs think about what it cost to make them and you may think twice of bootlegging.


Cybertoad Since 2007

09-26-08  12:58am - 5893 days #16
RagingBuddhist (0)
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darealkidd - All I can add to any of this is, if you want to make a go of it - and be taken seriously - you might want to use an industrial strength spellchecker. You'd be surprised at what well-written correspondence can do for your cause, whatever it is... Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

09-26-08  05:52pm - 5893 days #17
badandy400 (0)
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Industrial strength spell checker...I like that RagingB.

He is right though, I have a hard time talking people seriously who misspell everything. You certainly can not do any legal paperwork for a website not spelling correctly. Typos have a tendency of making documents invalid.

You mouth (keyboard) can get you in a lot of trouble. Here is an example; a man said he was LOOKING for child porn, he did not say he had, his posting saying he was looking counted. The First Amendment does not apply here and he is now serving five years.

Also, like I previously said, you do not want to expose yourself to anything like copying movies and such. What you at home that is less than legal is your business, just dont advertise it, especially on the internet. Would you go to a police station and say that you beat your girlfriend with your metal cased keyboard. Of course not, because guilty or not they are going to arrest you.

Copying stuff for personal use has drawn $3000 dollar settlements. And, they do not have to prove that you did it because they are filing in a civil court. Basically you get served on Monday and you are required to appear in court 3000 miles away Tuesday morning. Since you obviously can not show up you lose by default and you must pay $3000. If you decide to show up it will end up costing over $60,000 to fight based on people who have already.

Now you also mention selling to friends. Whether it is true or not is irrelevant. Now they press charges of copyright infringement. In this case you are 10,000% fucked. You might be able to deal with $3000, but this commands $175,000 per offense in recent cases. One disk is one offense, a single file on the hard drive is one offense. It would not take much here for you to be in more debt than the USA considering how many files can fit on a single hard drive.

I am not making any of this up, and yes it is meant to scare you into keeping your mouth shut about these sort of things. Honestly I am surprised PU did not simply delete the post just to keep clear of anything.

As for you question to Khan. One brick is not much and it can not do much, but enough bricks make a wall, even more and you have a house. The point is that while one might not matter, enough ones together eventually add up and suddenly the whole industry is corrupt and I am living off the porn I have collected and can get no more new stuff. I am fearful of this and thus I have been hoarding. It is not paranoia if it actually happens! :)

Besides, porn sites are practically a steal if you compare the price and amount of content to a DVD or a magazine on the newsstand. So by all means, show your buddies a video or two, show them the site, and have them at least pay for their own membership. "There is no such thing as a free lunch."

I would like you to feel welcome here because you are. But I would ask you to wheel yourself back for a moment and read a handful of our posts. You already have so this should be quick. Specifically, read a few of Toadsith's posts, then look at yours. And ask yourself honestly, if you were reading both of them, who would you give more merit to? Granted your posts do not need to be as well structured as his, he does a superb job, but they are just easy to read. Some of us have a little less time to read everything on here so if it easy to read it is more likely to be read. When you are typing and you see all those red squiggly lines under 98% of your post, we see the exact same thing!

You say you are bored at 4 Am and have nothing to do. Take a little extra time and try to make nice posts. This will benefit everyone. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~

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09-26-08  11:15pm - 5892 days #18
darealkidd (0)
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I have to say I let my hypothetically speaking get the best of me...I have to say I know that bootlegging and anything of the sort is not legal. My collection is just that..my collection.

09-27-08  09:50am - 5892 days #19
badandy400 (0)
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Gotcha. Nice spelling and grammer was better too. We very much appreciate it. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~

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