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| 07-31-11 11:23am - 4855 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
A porn buddy of mine tipped me off to a recent article in Newsweek magazine. I haven’t read Newsweek in years, but it seems that their level of journalism has slipped quite a bit. There is a story titled “The John Next Door” which talks about the pervasiveness of “buying sex.” Sounds interesting, right, but that isn’t you is it? Think again. The ‘study’ on which the article is focused declares a wide range of activities as “buying sex.” Watching porn on your computer? Then according to this anti-prostitution group you’re buying sex. Been to a strip club lately? You pervert you, buying sex like that! But it gets worse. Apparently those of us who “buy sex” are really into it for the desire to smack bitches around. And most of us would rape a woman if we had the chance. What a complete load of shit. Utter, utter shit. Most guys I know “buy sex” according to the definition of this group, but none of them has any desire to beat or rape women. I’m guessing that 99% of the members here have no such desire either. I’ve looked for information on the woman and the group who authored the study but don’t get much other than glowing praise. I suspect that they aren’t really objective about it. I suspect that if, say, the Centers for Disease Control were to do a study they’d be a bit more objective. What really, really bugs me though is to see a previously legitimate news magazine stoop to this level of journalism. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised though. As Jon Stewart recently noted, Jesus has been on the cover of Time magazine more than anything else. And I recall that one of the big U.S. big networks did an ‘exposé’ on porn a few years ago and interviewed Belladonna. I later read that she was pissed at them. She gave a positive position on porn and the network edited to make her look like she was a victim. I don’t know if this will work, having never posted a link, but here’s a link to the article: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/20...or-prostitution.html | |
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| 07-31-11 11:45am - 4855 days | #2 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Perhaps the best solution to this problem would be for all non-perverts to drink cyanide, so that God can put them into a better place where they won't have to associate with perverts. Shit-deflectors on, people. | |
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| 07-31-11 03:33pm - 4855 days | #3 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
"None are so blind as those who just can't see." This simply smacks of the blind instigators of this issue attempting to proselyte a cause they know too little about, but with full intentions to booster their moral position with the blind who're gullible enough to welcome such crap. | |
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| 07-31-11 05:33pm - 4855 days | #4 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Newsweek has become a real "manginazine," if I may coin a term. It's normal for it to carry misandric (anti-male) content. There was a cover story a few weeks ago that was supposed to get the reader to believe, essentially, that middle-aged white males have become worthless to society. If I had a dog, I wouldn't use Newsweek as a "squat spot." Dog shit deserves better. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 07-31-11 05:57pm - 4855 days | #5 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Wow - taking a beating Newsweak is. But if it's "buying sex" they're talking about, please don't date or get married because the only way you got any was to buy it. Socially accepted? Check ur bank account. And I would bet, that most rapist/serial killers can't even get off on porn which is why they do what they do. {Disclaimer} I have no evidence to back up the last paragraph but I do know personally about the first one.  If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 07-31-11 06:43pm - 4855 days | #6 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
You may not be so far off with your assumption. Psychologists maintain that rape is not so much a sex crime as it is a crime of violence. The thrill of dominating another human being. At least so I have read. | |
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| 07-31-11 10:39pm - 4855 days | #7 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
And the cynic in me says that for a lot of men, though certainly not all, when you get married all you are really doing is buying sex, or at least a long term pass to it. (To be fair, married men have told me that this purchase can frequently turn out to be a lemon.  )What pisses me off is the typical anti-porn stance this researcher takes in her definition of "buying sex," and so because I have "used pornography more than one time in the last month" I am therefore considered a sex buyer. This means that, according to the study, I am a criminal, would rape a woman if I knew I could get away with it, have an increased likelihood of perpetrating violence against women, among a number of other lovely predictions. When I watch a violent movie, I'm not buying murder, so why am I buying sex when I watch a dirty movie? Really tragic because they're using their hatred of prostitution--even if it's legal and controlled--to quash things like strip clubs, porn, and apparently much of the Internet in the process. The study's author doesn't have what I would call a realistic solution either, and the article claims she's an abolitionist (because, you know, all sex is slavery), and favors total eradication. Towards the end a few sentences hint at the problem of this zero tolerance view: "Despite the struggle to control it, human trafficking is often described as the fastest-growing criminal enterprise in the world, and as second only to drug trafficking in its profitability." Maybe if these anti-prostitution zealots take a serious look at the abysmal and costly failure that is the drug war they will see the price of total criminalization: the demand for a dangerous and illegal market to take control. They should instead study Nevada's handling of prostitution, and the relative control and safety it brings sex workers as compared to the fascist moral absolutism practiced nearly everywhere else in the U.S. Or they’ll just keep railing against anything and everything outside of the puritanical norms of the totalitarian state they seek to impose on us.  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 07-31-11 10:44pm - 4855 days | #8 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
And I'm betting some people are so anti-sex that they view all sex outside of marriage as violent. (Like jberryl69, I also have no evidence to back this up.  ) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 08-01-11 12:32am - 4855 days | #9 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
That was a very oddly written article, jumping back and forth from prostitution to pornography and using issues with prostitution as negatives for pornography. It just seems like a keyword mashup to try and get high on Google News. I think it is somewhat fair to equate prostitution to porn production, but consumption seems like a reach. I guess it is possible that some women in pornography are in it as part of some type of sex-trafficing operation, but I imagine this is rare although I have no idea if this is actually the case. To be against trafficing of women is perfectly reasonable, but she seems to make the assumption that this is where all prostitutes come from. The article would be a bit more fair I think if they spent time with prostitutes who "chose" the profession where it is legal. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 08-01-11 05:15am - 4854 days | #10 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I just read the article. I have to say I have heard and read this approach before. It lacks the subtlety of a real analysis. I have seen on TV, "in depth" analyses of prostitution where the only topics covered are a) sex trafficking and b) child prostitution. I may be wrong, but I think in most cases women enter prostitution due to economic reasons, sometimes casued by drug use, sometimes not. In most cases these women did not finish high school and are not prepared for the job market. This article does not exactly cover the topic thoroughly. In a way it reminds me of discussions about drugs that make the case that marijuana use leads to using harder drugs. Sometimes true, but an approach that shows no thought, paying attention to research findings or anything rsembling a clear, balanced or unbiased approach. I also believe that most low level drug dealers share the same characteristics I mentioned regarding prostitutes-low level of education and being unprepared for the job market. In the article in both cases the conclusions come first, then the "evidence". Conflating what the author calls "buying sex" such as porn use with prostitution is rdiculous. As if that were not enough,entering violent sex into the mix is beyond what I would expect from a major news source. They know better. Edited on Aug 01, 2011, 05:22am | |
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| 08-01-11 06:17am - 4854 days | #11 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Well, the British Victorian kind of regarding human life seems - again - to have a renascence.......or is this another way of those Tea Party shitheads.......back to ignorance and stupidity. I'm really worried about the state of good ol' American freedom ideals...... Oh, yes - of course I'd like to "smack bitches around" or oh, yes, rape my neighbors wife - only because I like to watch porn......Jezz.....what nonsense  "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 08-01-11 07:29am - 4854 days | #12 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
Andrea Dworkin and her crew see sex even within marriage as coercive. | |
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| 08-01-11 07:36am - 4854 days | #13 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
Not to change direction here, but last week I heard an ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corp) radio documentary on the CBC. The topic was how some people with physical difficulties use sex workers. Just because someone has a physical impairment doesn't mean their sex drive is dead. Sex work is legal in Australia. The doc interviewed both male and female clients and male and female sex workers. Apart from being a very interesting topic, what struck me most was how human and compassionate this approach was. It stands in direct contrast to the religious governments that many of us live under where sale of sex is criminalized. Hearing both the clients and the workers talking about this in such a compassionate way was a direct contrast to how we'd see this in most of the places where we live: yuo're both going to jail, and when you die you're going to hell. | |
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| 08-01-11 02:57pm - 4854 days | #14 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
One thing that you WON'T get from the mainstream mangina media, such as Newsbleak, is any consideration of the thesis that women exploit men for money through sex. Let's face it: Some do! I kind of doubt that it's an epidemic, but I don't think that men are the only "guilty" parties in what is legally defined as prostitution, either. It's takes two to tango! Or three or four, perhaps, as in the case of the serial bank account rapist. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Aug 01, 2011, 03:05pm | |
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| 08-02-11 12:29am - 4854 days | #15 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
In other words, attacking prostitution is only attacking the symptom, not the cause of why women turn to/are forced into prostitution. But a serious discussion of socioeconomic problems is fucking boring.  Instead let's all watch Chris Hansen on Dateline's To Catch a Predator. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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