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09-23-10  03:11pm - 5204 days Original Post - #1
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Are you content ...

... with DVD scenes that start with the model naked already or that show her fully clothed one moment and then show her, without transition, completely nude and ready for action a split second later?

Are you content with picture sets that contain approx. 12 pictures of the model fully dressed or partially undressed and another 90 pictures with her fully nude?

I know we've discussed this over and over in other threads (tease factor etc.) but this time I'd like to know who the folks are that prefer complete nudity right from the start and what makes them prefer it that way?

There is no judgment involved because I realize how different peoples' tastes are, just want to know what makes you, as a Porn User and collector content with the majority of the Porn found in most sites nowadays and what makes me such an odd ball in wanting something different?

09-23-10  03:30pm - 5204 days #2
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Simple short answer.....

No, I am not satisfied with that.

Never have been, never will be.

You knew that already though!

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09-23-10  03:35pm - 5204 days #3
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I don't think you are being the exception to the rule when you want a little tease or buildup to the main show, in a photoset or video.

But since more people don't complain, I think the publishers (the operators of the web sites and the DVD sites) just go for the simpler method of slinging the nudity and sex at the customer. Requires less thought to produce, less time to produce, therefore less money to produce. And since the returns are the same, more profit to produce and sell, without bothering with the tease or buildup.

That's my take on the subject.

And there is also the audience, which I assume is large, that prefers to skip the tease and get right to "the good stuff", which is less good in my opinion because it's less meaningful without a buildup.

09-23-10  03:44pm - 5204 days #4
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Simple short answer.....

No, I am not satisfied with that.

Never have been, never will be.

You knew that already though!

Cap'n.


Yep, I already knew, Cap'n!

09-23-10  03:49pm - 5204 days #5
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I'd only prefer complete nudity right away if I'd never seen the model nude before and only had "tease" material of her. But it would help if some of this material could be easily assimilated, which isn't often the case (different makeup, hairstyle, tan, tats, hickey on the ass, etc.).

That's for softcore, usually in photos. For hardcore, usually in video, I do like to get straight to the "good stuff," which is very naughty!

Didn't we do a poll about this? Was it one of mine? I can't remember ... I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

09-23-10  03:51pm - 5204 days #6
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I don't think you are being the exception to the rule when you want a little tease or buildup to the main show, in a photoset or video.

But since more people don't complain, I think the publishers (the operators of the web sites and the DVD sites) just go for the simpler method of slinging the nudity and sex at the customer. Requires less thought to produce, less time to produce, therefore less money to produce. And since the returns are the same, more profit to produce and sell, without bothering with the tease or buildup.

That's my take on the subject.

And there is also the audience, which I assume is large, that prefers to skip the tease and get right to "the good stuff", which is less good in my opinion because it's less meaningful without a buildup.


I think your take is right on, lk2fireone. In this thread I would dearly love to hear from those who prefer to "skip the tease and get right to the good stuff" because just like you I find raw sex less meaningful (actually I find it boring after a couple of minutes) if there is no build up, and would like to find out what makes them tick. Again without any intention of making anyone feel badly about their preferences! Just trying to understand.

09-23-10  05:57pm - 5204 days #7
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When it comes to photosets, I honestly don't care at all. To me, a good photo is a good photo whether she's clothed or naked, and I tend to judge each picture in a set separately. Of course, I'm not really that much of a photoset guy.

For videos, while I definitely prefer a setup, it doesn't necessarily have to be there. If the sex is hot enough, I could honestly care less what led up to it. But a good setup can make things better.

09-23-10  06:47pm - 5204 days #8
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Originally Posted by hodayathink:


When it comes to photosets, I honestly don't care at all. To me, a good photo is a good photo whether she's clothed or naked, and I tend to judge each picture in a set separately. Of course, I'm not really that much of a photoset guy.

For videos, while I definitely prefer a setup, it doesn't necessarily have to be there. If the sex is hot enough, I could honestly care less what led up to it. But a good setup can make things better.


Can you tell me what makes the sex all by itself hot? I find that a sex scene is much more enjoyable if it isn't dragged out for twenty-five minutes and that's what happens if you don't have a lead-in of some sort. No matter how exciting the action may be originally, after five minutes I'm ready to see something else and I don't mean a different position by the same couple.

That's the same problem I have with the picture sets. Once you see a woman nude in, let's say 10 basic positions, then where is the excitement in seeing pictures that are close duplications of those ten?

I think you agree with me in this, I am just wondering what the definition of hot sex would be (for you) if that is all there is to a scene in a DVD?

09-23-10  09:43pm - 5203 days #9
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Can you tell me what makes the sex all by itself hot? I find that a sex scene is much more enjoyable if it isn't dragged out for twenty-five minutes and that's what happens if you don't have a lead-in of some sort. No matter how exciting the action may be originally, after five minutes I'm ready to see something else and I don't mean a different position by the same couple.

That's the same problem I have with the picture sets. Once you see a woman nude in, let's say 10 basic positions, then where is the excitement in seeing pictures that are close duplications of those ten?

I think you agree with me in this, I am just wondering what the definition of hot sex would be (for you) if that is all there is to a scene in a DVD?


What makes a scene hot for me is when the two (or more) people in it look to be really enjoying themselves. It doesn't matter if it's pro or amateur, what position they're in, or pretty much anything else for that matter. If they (and if I'm honest, the girl specifically) honestly seem to be enjoying themselves, I could watch the same two people in the same exact position for 20-30 minutes.

And as far as pictures, for me the excitement is not about seeing the girl naked (or not naked, or half-dressed, or etc.). It's about seeing what I think is a good photograph. I guess the best way to describe it is that I don't look at them as pornographic pictures, just as pictures, and I judge them the same as I would judge a picture I saw in "National Geographic".

09-23-10  11:14pm - 5203 days #10
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Originally Posted by messmer:


In this thread I would dearly love to hear from those who prefer to "skip the tease and get right to the good stuff" because just like you I find raw sex less meaningful (actually I find it boring after a couple of minutes) if there is no build up, and would like to find out what makes them tick. Again without any intention of making anyone feel badly about their preferences! Just trying to understand.


I certainly don't mind nudity that's pretty much right from the start--there I said it!

Frankly, I think tease and buildup--if referring to mainly undressing--is way overrated in porn. I find that boring after a couple of minutes myself. I really don't care all that much about what someone is wearing when I look at porn so I figure the sooner they lose it the better. I'm in it for the nudity and the action, not the stripping. Call me a hopelessly impatient pervert (it's practically a comment for me), but that's just the way I am.

Now as for real life...who doesn't mind a good striptease? I feel that women are a tease so much of the time already that it's only natural that they want make a little show of it. And a girl is just fucking hot when she has the confidence and ability to turn undressing into a titillating come-hither act.

Oh, and as to what really makes me tick, good luck. Even I haven't figured that one out yet! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-24-10  08:09am - 5203 days #11
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I prefer full nudity right away mainly because I'm paying for a membership to a site. It upsets me when I see a fully clothed model at a website because I could easily go out in public and see an equally attractive woman without paying a penny. Even better, I could go to a lake or swimming pool and see a hottie for the same price! One of the best things about summer is it gets so hot around here the women wear next to nothing whenever they go out to do their thing. All of this I get for FREE. A website overcharges.

09-24-10  08:27am - 5203 days #12
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Originally Posted by Horndog:


I prefer full nudity right away mainly because I'm paying for a membership to a site. It upsets me when I see a fully clothed model at a website because I could easily go out in public and see an equally attractive woman without paying a penny. Even better, I could go to a lake or swimming pool and see a hottie for the same price! One of the best things about summer is it gets so hot around here the women wear next to nothing whenever they go out to do their thing. All of this I get for FREE. A website overcharges.


I don't agree with your thinking. I think there is more meaning to nudity or sex when there is some buildup to it.

At the same time, I think you gave the best answer to why someone wants to skip the buildup and get right to "the good stuff". The tease or buildup is a waste of time that, for you, does not add to the good stuff you are paying for.

Two different points of view. But that's part of the meaning behind the old expression: Different strokes for different folks.

09-24-10  09:33am - 5203 days #13
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I've always assumed that when a porn video goes right into naked sex with no tease, or goes from fully dressed to naked with no transition, is either very low budget and the cameraman screwed up the single shoot, or that the transition was screwed up with bloopers, or that the entire shoot was made and canned and was discovered later, then added as content.

I don't think any professional porn producer would do that intentionally.

09-24-10  10:25am - 5203 days #14
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Interesting views, guys! I am really enjoying this conversation because I am seeing things from perspectives so different from mine that it helps me understand a bit better.

09-24-10  07:26pm - 5203 days #15
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Poor messmer, I think you are our most jaded PU I really hope something comes along that sparks your interest and gets you excited...I know that feeling when all porn seems the same thing over and over or there just is NOT a site or content out there for you (or me for that matter). I have not talked to you in awhile, but have you found a worthwhile mature site lately? It's been awhile since I've got any beloved mature content and a new site worth mentioning would be awesome Sexted From My iPad

09-25-10  03:23am - 5202 days #16
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Monahan, it is far too common in porn for them to cut straight from heavy petting to full on nude with very little transition. I looked through the last 10 videos I downloaded from videobox a few months ago and only 4 showed the model fully undressing, with 6 where she went from mostly clothed to magically naked (or was pretty much naked to start). I think they probably cut most of the undressing out because it can be awkward and producers might consider it a waste of space on a DVD.

Personally I love when they undress on camera, of course I've always been a fan of undressing a woman - even one I've been with many times before - it is like unwrapping a present! Isn't that the point of lingerie? Lots of clasps and buckles to take off? Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars.
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09-25-10  09:23am - 5202 days #17
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Originally Posted by slutty:


Personally I love when they undress on camera, of course I've always been a fan of undressing a woman - even one I've been with many times before - it is like unwrapping a present! Isn't that the point of lingerie? Lots of clasps and buckles to take off?


Someone who understands my point of view! But then I knew you would, slutty!

09-25-10  09:35am - 5202 days #18
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Originally Posted by GCode:


Poor messmer, I think you are our most jaded PU I really hope something comes along that sparks your interest and gets you excited...I know that feeling when all porn seems the same thing over and over or there just is NOT a site or content out there for you (or me for that matter). I have not talked to you in awhile, but have you found a worthwhile mature site lately? It's been awhile since I've got any beloved mature content and a new site worth mentioning would be awesome


Well, there are moments of "ho hum, there's nothing new under the sun" when it comes to Porn in general, GCode, if you've been looking at it for over forty years! And I have not found a worthwhile mature site for a long time. I subscribed to 50Plus milfs recently and found it quite good but it does not have enough contents yet. Some of the others are low quality or too expensive like mature.nl.

All, except mature.nl (I think they might have changed their name), seem to use the same models over and over, which is understandable. Not too many women in their forties, fifties or sixties lining up to do Porn.

I could branch out into different niches, problem is my second niche of interest, lingerie, is also under- represented! Oh, to be young again when just the sight of a nude female body set you off! Edited on Sep 25, 2010, 09:42am

09-25-10  10:02am - 5202 days #19
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Oh, to be young again when just the sight of a nude female body set you off!


Are you saying you wore diapers under your pants in those days, to capture the overflow?

09-25-10  10:09am - 5202 days #20
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Are you saying you wore diapers under your pants in those days, to capture the overflow?


Not set you off that way, for Pete's sake!

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