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| 02-09-10 07:57am - 5430 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
How to run a website as a job Apropos Khan - secluded in some Virginia snowfiled area - it's still amazing how people today can make a living - on the web. Under normal situations without powercut, of course (hope you're back with power (and heat), soon, Khan). But TBP - Rick is in Las Vegas, Khan's in Virginia (do not know where the other TBP-folks are at) - still it's great AND the future (for some) NOT to have to go to a 9-5 job every day to do all right, moneywise - I think. We communicate over the net - and so does TBP - apparently not placed in the same office, but still able to do this site - yes, I think it's damn fine - and what a lot of other folks would like to do for a living. (Still we have to depend on 'the working man', though).... This user just quit work - voluntarily (after being in the newspaper-media for almost 25 years) - and it's time to think of a new way to make a living - it's got to be something with websites...... I just cannot forget this true story - on state tv: A young guy in Sweden goes to the local IRS and says: Hey, I got this porn website and want to declare a large income...the guy found a good name/domain for his pornsite - with banners and all - and so on. He just kept receiving checks from various pay-pornsites - is it that easy? Just finding the right name and get Google to find you, too? "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Feb 09, 2010, 08:27am | |
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| 02-09-10 10:57am - 5430 days | #2 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
From what I've seen on the 'Net, there are a lot of warnings not to even try to earn a living from a website. I wish I could find the link, but there was this one page I saw that very clearly spelled out all the obstacles you encounter in trying to get a website off the ground. In the end, it seems that more sites fold than do restaurants - another business that's risky at best. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 02-09-10 12:33pm - 5430 days | #3 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
There's always some kind of dream - but guess, your're quite right here, RB......... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 02-09-10 04:51pm - 5429 days | #4 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
And that's probably just referring to non-adult websites. Porn has a whole slew of its own unique legal rat mazes to run even when you follow every rule precisely. Good luck. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 02-09-10 08:09pm - 5429 days | #5 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
Man, trying to make money from the web by sitting back and watching the customers come to you is like planning your retirement around winning the lottery ... it's a nice idea but only 1 out of every million (or less) succeed at it. Unless you have mad computer skills you're not going to make money running websites ... unless you're Rick in which case you beat the odds ;) Your best bet would be to take some classes and get some certifications in programming or quality assurance and try and get remote worker job (at some lousy intro rates) with a company. Then again, if you're looking for the quick hit, I suggest a Ponzi scheme to help fund your new Las Vegas mansion ... just don't plan on that being you're long term residence ... Max Hardcore is looking for a new cellmate I hear. | |
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| 02-11-10 09:06pm - 5427 days | #6 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
To be serious, Denner, if you look around at forums, you can see links to various sites' affiliate programs - the programs where they give some portion of the membership fees to the sites that directed people who joined. In other words, if you were signed up with "Porno-Guy"s affiliate program, Porno-Cash, and that program paid off at a 40% rate, then every person that your site - DennerBlog.com or whatever - directed to Porno-Guy's site and that person joined Porno-Guy.com for $19.95 - you would earn 40% of that. It might actually be up your alley, given that there are sites that you really like and would have fun promoting and feel good about promoting. You would need to do some digging around, but there are many forums that are geared to people doing this kind of biz where there are how-to's available - cause let's face it, the more people doing good promotion, the more members these sites are likely to get - and you could earn money off of that activity. Personally, I've only peeked around enough to know what I'm describing above, but it's do-able and if you don't need to earn a lot of money, you could certainly earn some once you've done the work to be professional about the whole thing - I'm sure there are a lot of people signed up in affiliate programs that don't do much work and don't earn any money from them as a result. | |
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| 02-11-10 09:07pm - 5427 days | #7 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
And now I'll be kicked off PU forum tomorrow for drumming up competition - if so, Bye Bye, everyone. | |
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| 02-11-10 09:43pm - 5427 days | #8 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User  Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Yup, Rick is going to cut you up into little pieces and UPS you to Khan. He will then bury you and you will not be found until all the snow melts! Sucks to be a panther right now! "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 02-27-10 06:28pm - 5411 days | #9 | |
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kkman112 (0)
Active User Posts: 56 Registered: Mar 31, '07 Location: United States |
As far as making money off ANY site is concerned it is definitely hit-or-miss. You really have to know your target audience. I definitely would stay away from those "get rich quick" and "sell our wares for us" (we provide the warehouse, you sell the goods) schemes. I am a web programmer and I would love to start my own site (and have a few ideas I think would be a hit), but I don't currently have the spare time to make those sites. Maybe after I get done with college, but not now. As far as porn is concerned: I would be more than willing to make a porn site if I could not get employment elsewhere. Unfortunately, from what I have heard, if your identity gets out that you dealt in porn you can pretty much kiss any chances of working anywhere else goodbye. At least here in the U.S., I know there are other countries that are more tolerant to that. I know of a few local newscasters who were fired and could not get work here ever again because they flashed a bit of flesh at spring break and it was caught on tape. When it comes to legal issues I noticed there is a pretty simple rule in the U.S. to go by... It is only legal to PRODUCE porn in California and Florida. So if you are in another state you can create a site and buy content or allow your members to sell content through your site, but you cannot produce (record or photograph) the porn in any other states. It would definitely be cautious to at least host your site in one of those states as well as the content on your site follows the law of the country and state or region in which it is hosted. Not much to worry about though since pretty much all hosting companies that allow porn sites are in California or Florida. | |
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| 02-28-10 09:37am - 5411 days | #10 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I heard the same thing about producing porn being legal in only those two states. There are a lot of websites that seem not to care about this, such as Adult Doorway produced in New Jersey. Their address is easy to find if our overzealous governments ever decided to hunt them down. | |
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| 02-28-10 10:10am - 5411 days | #11 | |
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kkman112 (0)
Active User Posts: 56 Registered: Mar 31, '07 Location: United States |
Yes, there are sites that produce porn in other states, but from a legal standpoint you can be much more easily prosecuted in any other state than the two I mentioned. Only when you do something extreme and borderline non-consensual (like Max Hardcore) that you get prosecuted in Cali or Florida. Anywhere else will quickly bring up the Miller Test which is essentially polling your local area to see if the local public is willing to accept what you do. If not, you got to jail. Plain and simple. So while there are producers in other states (I know there are a few in NYC too), but as you said: if the government cracks down or even some random Joe decided they don't like what your doing and takes you to court... chances are you end up in jail. It's more of a "as long as you don't get caught" kind of thing outside of those two states. In the U.S. it seems to be rare at the moment that someone is prosecuted... though I have heard of some small-time producers getting caught years ago for producing in some small, conservative town. Will the laws every change? Not sure. As far as I can tell it will remain a VERY gray area for a LONG time. | |
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| 02-28-10 04:27pm - 5410 days | #12 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I thought it was more of "there's no evidence we actually produced said material here, only when we produced it" defense than any don't-get-caught plan. I have seen quite a bit of porn that was shot in places outside of California and Florida but I am not a puritanical prosecutor and I don't know if I could ever really prove to a judge or jury or whoever that it was shot in a porn-free location. Out of respect to the producers and companies--not to mention my sheer hatred of the countless dumb lawmakers and brain-dead lawyers and judges out there--I am not going to name any names but I have seen stuff from Arizona, Nevada, Maryland, NYC, and possibly a few other places though I am far less sure about them than the first four. I would say there's definitely more risk in running a porn website outside FL or CA for long periods of time simply because of the talent pool or lack thereof. Unless you are shooting purely amateur content than I bet the number of people you can just call up who are only a short drive away is very small. Not to mention how hard it would be finding crews who are willing to shoot porn. The odds are probably not in your favor. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Feb 28, 2010, 08:15pm | |
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| 02-28-10 06:09pm - 5410 days | #13 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
For those interested in knowing ... One of the main risks for producing porn outside of CA (and perhaps parts of FL) is the risk of being charged with Pandering for arranging sex for pay. It's allowed in CA (technically, only parts of CA) only because there's legal case history to support the producing of porn as being apart from prostitution. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 03-10-10 10:14am - 5401 days | #14 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
From what I've read over the past few years I would never recommend to anyone based in the US that running an adult site is a viable route to head down. Most of Europe is much more conducive to adult business and adult websites (although you still have to be choosy with banks). I have been in the industry since 2002 but things were definitely easier to get started back then, I don't think there was less competition but most of the competition was very weak and it didn't take much effort to stand out. Now there is a lot more experience and professionalism in the industry and more seriously targeted investment. That combined with tighter regulation and more stringent legal requirements, means it is much more difficult to start up now. I've heard figures quoted between 90% and 97% as the rate of adult sites which fail within 12 months. If you are good at it, pick a good niche and have enough resources behind you, you can make a comfortable living at it, but don't think of it as a sensible route to get rich. It's hard work and if anything it's getting harder. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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