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| 11-09-10 09:46am - 5157 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Reg Berkeley Where Are You Now? A good question. I've been trying to find a video site worthy of my money. I hate Video Box because they don't give a toss about their customers, and their perspective on a lot of the videos is wrong. I didn't join VideosZ because of the pre checked cross selling. With American Vice you joined, got great customer service and great picture quality. No one tried to rip you off. There doesn't appear to be one satisfactory video site out there. I don't want 10 million videos, just a thousand with reasonable choice, reasonable quality, and reasonable customer service. I mentioned on Messmer's VB review how angry I am. I'm always angry. I am still angry about the way the American people treated Obama in the recent elections. One thing to cheer me up when there's a big tragedy and Americans are killed is I console myself with the thought that half of them are Republicans. I really do think like that. I really am that angry. All the time. Two reviews by Pat and Ik2Fireone recently concerning the Teen Mega World and Teen Burg networks sparked my interest. Several months ago I said I was considering joining a new network, but didn't know which one, as so many of them either have pre checked cross selling or regional discrimination. I ended up joining one of those free file sharing sites and downloading from there. Fuck you VideosZ and the rest of you who have regional discrimination or pre checked cross sales. Think I need the influence of Raging Buddhist to calm me down a bit. Where to go? I have the money and am willing to give it to a worthy site or network. Not sure at the moment, but any site with dirty tricks does not get my money no matter how good their material is supposed to be. Porn Pros is another one I would join but avoid like the plague. There's a big cloud over that one. Did they threaten to break Rick's legs or made him an offer he couldn't refuse? What happened to turn this shady outfit into one that now gets the thumbs up from TBP? Not sure where I'm going next with my money. Until I find something worthy I'm continuing to download for free. | |
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| 11-10-10 08:03pm - 5156 days | #2 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
It is sad that American Vice didn't survive. It is so hard to overcome the momentum that the older sites have, even when you've got a superior product. AV was caught in a bit of a Catch 22, they couldn't get contracts with the biggest production companies because they didn't have enough subscribers, and they couldn't get the masses of subscribers because they didn't have the biggest production companies. They also kept getting screwed by Google placement and things like that... It is sad when a genuinely innovative, customer service oriented company bites the dust. Long live American Vice.  "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 11-11-10 06:00am - 5155 days | #3 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
This sounds like many other mainstream business failures in the past thirty years. Only difference is it's in the porn business. This does not bode well. If a new site needs a big customer base to get the best contracts from top suppliers, but can't get customers until it gets top suppliers, it will be impossible to get a decent new video site off the ground. This means the big guns already in the market wont have to strive too hard to improve as they already have a monopoly on product. The only new video sites will be those with rubbish product and rubbish support. I feel really sorry for Reg and AV. It's as though no one in porn really wants to see a decent site with decent customer service. It was head and shoulders above the rest. I am downloading for free because I cannot bring myself to give money to a site that tries to trick me. I've looked all through the video sites and a lot of the best have pre checked cross sells. Video Box do not, but have the slowest streaming and download speed I have encountered since being online. They also have shit customer support. | |
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| 11-13-10 08:34am - 5153 days | #4 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
If this thread is going to turn into a lament for the late, great American Vice site, then count me in. American Vice was an excellent site that deserved to out-sell Videobox. | |
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| 11-13-10 12:11pm - 5153 days | #5 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Maybe one of those pay-for-time sites could work for you. Just pay up front for so many minutes of viewing and/or downloading. No hassle with renewals or the usual crap one gets from the kind of sites you've described. | |
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| 11-13-10 02:57pm - 5153 days | #6 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Pay per view are ridiculously expensive in comparison to monthly membership sites, but at least they are more honest. Thing is a site doesn't need to have a million videos, as I said earlier. It just needs some decent porn without dirty tricks. The Toadsith Catch 22 thing applies, which is a shame because it prevents new video/dvd sites from developing a quality catalogue. Bad for customers. I hope wherever Reg is and whatever he's doing he's successful, because he gave the impression he worked his bollocks off. Good luck mate, in your future endeavours. Even non video/dvd sites are infuriating. The pre checked cross sells probably don't irritate people as much as they do me, and the same goes for regional discrimination. But if prechecked cross sells didn't work, in other words they earn more money than if they weren't pre checked, companies wouldn't do it. The conclusion from this is that members are tricked out of their money for services they do not want. I'm not giving my money to con artists. I'd rather rip them off. No apologies, in fact it makes me feel good. Edited on Nov 13, 2010, 03:00pm | |
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| 11-13-10 04:34pm - 5153 days | #7 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
I think we all share in your aversion for the unsavory practices from sites like you've brought up. And I suspect, like me, most have battle scars from dueling with them. Another popular avenue I'll toss out is that I've had some success with a few of those apathetic sites by having purchased through CCBill or PayPal. If the problem isn't technical, They'll likely make an effort to intercede on your behalf to get the matter resolved. They've stepped in on some issues I was doubtful about and took care of it. Of course, there's limits to things they can handle, too.  | |
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| 11-13-10 05:07pm - 5153 days | #8 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Yes agreed. But we hate the aggravation. I know I shouldn't be fighting other peoples' battles, but I feel disgusted for those who have been ripped off in the past, and for anyone who then has to fight to get those unknown charges removed. Most of us on here are very careful, but not only do I feel disgusted on behalf of others who have been ripped off and then had a fight to get their money back, I take it as a personal insult that a site should attempt to sign me up for something that I did not intend to sign up for. They know exactly what they are trying to do. They are trying to trick me into buying something I did not intend buying. I take that very personally. But yes Graymane, some of the more reputable billing companies do listen. We have heard cases where those who have clearly been charged for something they never intended to purchase, have had their money refunded. Those billing companies deserve credit. But this situation should never arise in the first place. Pre checked cross selling should be illegal. If it were made illegal, and was removed across the board, I am not sure I would pay a membership to those sites who have tried to trick people over the years. I would rather rip them off. I believe those like American Vice, who are honourable and reputable, should have our support. I think quite a few on here did support them. It is maybe the less well informed who missed out. I will join a site again, and it will be one that does not have pre checked cross selling or regional discrimination. The last site I paid money to was Karup's, who have always had a good reputation for customer service. Money well spent. | |
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| 11-13-10 09:13pm - 5153 days | #9 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
You must have me confused with someone else. I say, "Rage on! We're drowning in a world of complacency and apathy. Speak out when you feel the need". Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. Edited on Nov 13, 2010, 09:18pm | |
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| 11-14-10 06:12am - 5152 days | #10 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Thanks RB, I have always felt like I'm from another planet even in my own country. Apathy and complacency are what let the bastards get away with it all. I agree, RAGE ON! | |
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| 11-14-10 11:51pm - 5152 days | #11 | |
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anyonebutme (0)
Active User  Posts: 294 Registered: Aug 23, '09 |
Okay, ummm, so you have some serious anger issues that cannot be resolved by porn websites. Try taking a week away from the computer, away from the internet, away from porn, and most definitely away from partisan political rhetoric. You want to know the truth about how the American people treat Obama? The vast majority of Americans do not involve themselves in politics, do not involve themselves in the partisan bickering, they do not love Obama, they do not hate Obama. Most Americans wake up each morning and go to work, they do their daily job, they take care of their family, they keep up with relatives & friends, they seek out entertainment. And no, Americans most certainly do not sit around the dinner table discussing how much each of them hated Obama during the day. Okay, a little spillover from the politics thread, but seriously, reading all that, and everything in this thread, you need to learn to relax. I mean, you're going to sit there at your keyboard, and say you are excited at the thought of people being killed across the world, then expect sympathy raging over a porn site trying to sell a $20 cross-sale? You are trying to claim you are the better person here? I don't think so. Something has fucked up your perception of reality. Clear that up first, then come back and we'll discuss just how much we all need you to save us from evil. Edited on Nov 15, 2010, 02:09am | |
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| 11-15-10 04:58am - 5151 days | #12 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
justme, maybe you should go back to school before you start handing out psychiatric advice. If someone wants to blow off steam on these threads, if the PU staff allows it, why are you objecting? TheSquirrel raises some valid issues, like regional pricing and pre-checked cross sells, that many PU members dislike. Living in the U.S., I don't have to personally worry about regional pricing, but I dislike having to look through signup pages when I join a site to avoid these pre-checked cross sells. And I also believe regional pricing is unfair and discriminatory, even if it is legal. | |
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| 11-15-10 06:22am - 5151 days | #13 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
LOL - justme sounds as angry as I am, but in a different way! He is right in that I am angry and need to relax, but the reality is that isn't going to happen. I went from being an angry young man to an angry old man. I had better clear up one thing. I didn't say I got excited about people being killed, I just said it made it seem not so bad if half those who are killed are Republicans. ("I console myself with the thought that half of them are Republicans"). That's a bit different from being excited. It's good to relax and take things easy, but not so good to be apathetic and complacent. They are the reasons we are controlled by the media. I do think justme is correct in how a lot of the American people view Obama. Very similar to how the British view Government in general. The only difference is we are more cynical. Truth is I don't want to save anyone from evil, because I don't care much for human beings anyway. I go from wimpish Liberal, thinking about how unfair the world is, to not caring because those who are poor, would be just as big a bunch of bastards as the rich, if positions were reversed. But one thing that wont change is me being angry. I have no moral high ground either. What I say is in my own interest, and also that of PU members. I like Obama because I think he is a good man, which is good for me because I think he makes the world a safer place. I hate cross selling because those sort of companies are conmen who are trying to trick us. That's bad for me and bad for porn buyers. | |
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| 11-15-10 02:13pm - 5151 days | #14 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
First, I wanna' say that Obama is doing an excellent job --- and, given the support he deserves, would make rapid, giant and positive strides towards putting this country back on its feet. He inherited a massive, inept, incompetent, flawed legacy unsupassed in this Nation's history. God bless'em! During the Bush years, one could dub our White House as a posh outhouse of sort, wherein we citizens (constituents) represented the part that got hit with the president's and his Republician cronies' shit......reminents of which was left for Obama to clean up. As far as the mental state of one who wants people killed: I find it not unusual for heinous acts of cruelty that'll spir people to reach that point...as I did upon news earlier this year of the events perpertrated by a warped religious order stoning a young woman to death. Our honorable forum pundit (lk2fireone's) eloquent submission here calls for a tad of reflection while tossing stones around in glass houses: I'm alluding to a diatribe of unsolisted "psychiatric advice" he laid on me in one of my recent posts. | |
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