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04-02-11  12:37pm - 4920 days Original Post - #1
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Disgusting!

A man like this is beneath contempt. I wonder what his leaks will do to the Porn industry in general but more importantly what they will do to the performers who felt safe behind their assumed names. Everyone's best reaction would be to turn a scornful back to this douchebag's site.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-200499...mp;tag=2547-1_3-0-20

04-02-11  01:01pm - 4920 days #2
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One unfortunate byproduct of the Internet is to empower the creeps. But that's part of the price of freedom. At the same time, I would assume that the man, or site he owns/runs, could be sued for different reasons, and probably be shut down.

04-02-11  01:18pm - 4920 days #3
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I see a serious lawsuit on the horizon. This is why I never sell my content to other sites and warn my girls to be careful their documents are not compromised. I keep the records behind lock and key and refuse to sell the content because of the legal 2257 requirements for secondary producers. This is absolutely despicable.

04-02-11  02:46pm - 4920 days #4
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


One unfortunate byproduct of the Internet is to empower the creeps. But that's part of the price of freedom. At the same time, I would assume that the man, or site he owns/runs, could be sued for different reasons, and probably be shut down.


I sure hope you are right, lk2fireone! At my age I should be cynical but guys like him still manage to shock me.

04-02-11  02:48pm - 4920 days #5
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Originally Posted by Yariana:


I see a serious lawsuit on the horizon. This is why I never sell my content to other sites and warn my girls to be careful their documents are not compromised. I keep the records behind lock and key and refuse to sell the content because of the legal 2257 requirements for secondary producers. This is absolutely despicable.


As I said to lk2fireone, I sincerely hope you are right about the law suit, Yariana. I know there are all kinds of creeps out there but this guy outcreeps them all!

04-02-11  04:44pm - 4920 days #6
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The man or men as the rumour seem to be implying could be sued in a civil court but what they have done is not illegal. It's very immoral and beyond decent. It's not that they have revealed the real names of thousands of porn performers but they have also revealed personnal information like the names of siblings and their home addresses. The porn world was already suffering because of the recession. How many girls will now want to do porn knowing that 10yrs from now some bastard will reveal their identity to the world??? Long live the Brown Coats.

04-02-11  06:38pm - 4920 days #7
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Another turd in the punchbowl of porn -- along with the pooper who leaked the AIM data and helped make it possible. I wonder how much that bit of sleaziness fetched. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

04-02-11  06:55pm - 4920 days #8
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I hope some sites/producers/companies back these women up so they can take action without having to put a substantial hole in their pocket and become broke. Like all court shit, this will probably take years to settle if it goes to court. This is why I dislike the court system, just like most cases in capitalistic countries, the rich get richer and poor get poorer...meaning the already somewhat poorer stars are going to have a hard time fighting this case if they don't get backup. I wish them luck though, this is a case that is actually worth a fight in court for. Sexted From My iPad

04-02-11  08:59pm - 4920 days #9
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Unfortunately this is becoming the new norm in the world, the attitude that the ends justify the means.

Remember when someone compiled the voting records of Prop 8 in California and overlayed them using Google maps?

Legislatures here in Chicago and in the Illinois state house have been trying to figure out clever ways to ban gun ownership since the recent Supreme Court decision on the D.C. gun ban canceled out Chicago's law. Their latest push is to have a publicly available map on the internet of all gun owners, where they live, and what guns they own. People who sit in legislatures want this to happen. (like currently it is legal to own a gun in Chicago, though it is illegal to hold a gun in Chicago, figure that one out)

Unions are canvasing Wisconsin towns demanding all businesses publicly declare sides on the state's budget repair bill. And they're refusing to accept neutrality. After all, as consumers it's our right to know who we're doing business with, correct?

"Freedom of speech" is supposed to protect those who wish to think, not to protect those who wish to hurt.

Ever wonder what the pricetag is on a ccbill data dump? Edited on Apr 02, 2011, 09:04pm

04-03-11  04:43am - 4919 days #10
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Unfortunately any nut with an agenda can do a lot of damage with the power of the internet.

Even if his ISP could be prevailed upon to shut him down, the damage is already done.

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04-03-11  09:44am - 4919 days #11
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Originally Posted by anyonebutme:


Ever wonder what the pricetag is on a ccbill data dump?


Now that is a scary thought!

04-03-11  10:56am - 4919 days #12
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I saw this on Gawker yesterday and checked out the site. That was before I read the article that the original poster linked here. At first I thought that the guy who created the site might be claiming some moral high ground or something, but after looking at just two pages it became pretty clear that this was the work of a really twisted person. I wouldn�t agree with it, but if a star�s real name was part of a page that provided useful information I could see someone thinking that was a fair use of the information. But on the two star�s pages that I looked at the only information is that the girl is a porn star and a �hooker.� And her real name is revealed. One linked the real name to another page that was even more degrading.

I really hope that this site gets shut down soon.

If not, I have a modest proposal. Given the links between porn collecting and the military, I can�t be the only PU here who wears a uniform. I propose a PU vigilante group to protect the young ladies who give us so much pleasure. I suspect that my combat boot up this guy�s arse might cause him to rethink his position.

Anyone else want in?

04-03-11  12:00pm - 4919 days #13
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This was an issue in the John Staglione trial. Staglione's side was arguing for the right of Lorelei Lei to testify under her stage name without having her "real" name (given that my family name was changed by customs officials when my grandfather got off a boat in the US, I have rather a jaundiced view of any names being real), the prosecution was insisting that she could only testify under her legal name.

04-04-11  02:40am - 4918 days #14
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Unfortunately, I've had firsthand internet experiences with Donny Long (he's really not a fan of Naughty America because they use a decent amount of crossover talent, own their own gay studio, and one of their producers is actually one of the more well-known modern crossovers). He can't win an argument to save his life, and when he loses, he goes the lowest route he can by either outing your identity if you're a performer, or attempting to take down your site (DDos) if you're a company, or just filling your inbox/message board page/whatever with random shit if you're a normal person. This site is just an extension of that, and he's been doing this for years (a couple years ago he got into an argument with porn agent Mark Speigler, so he then created a page that listed the personal info of every girl signed to Speigler's agency in an attempt to harass them and convince them to leave the agency). One of these days, he really is going to get what's coming to him. Let's just hope it's soon.

04-04-11  06:10am - 4918 days #15
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Anybody been able to browse that site?
It's pretty damn slow - but when I finally got to the stars and the "info" about them, it seems just sick/stupid.
How about this:
At most female models (I've checked) it's stated the same nonsense (I won't put names here):

"...(Real name)..turned into a WHORE and went by the name ..(...)doing porn degrading the whole family name being a pornographic WHORE and HOOKER. Find out more about this persons pornjob...ect."

And this line of helpless words is repeated over and over again for most female models.

This got to be made from a sick mind filled with hate and probably a certified psychopath. "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Apr 04, 2011, 06:30am

04-04-11  07:14am - 4918 days #16
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BTW - got to think about this after a cup of coffee ect.:
It's a very relevant thread messmer has put up here - and I think we all should follow this closely - and also think about another possibility: if this motherf..... should get the notion to look at ordinary guys like us and - like anyonebutme asks:
"Ever wonder what the pricetag is on a ccbill data dump?"
Agree with messmer: a scary thought...(too!) "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

04-04-11  03:07pm - 4918 days #17
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Man, what an asshole.

Whatever possible good intentions he has--and the site doesn't appear to have any beyond typical Internet gay bashing and rumor spreading--seem to be overridden by the fate of revealing identities and trying to genuinely harm others' reputations and lives. Like so many in the world he has an agenda that belies whatever high ground he thinks he is taking. And his agenda hopefully could send him to court or cost him a lot in legal fees. I mean, isn't the release of confidential medical information on those actresses and actors highly illegal?

Kind of reminds me of all the "pro-life" nutters here in the U.S. who call out abortion providers and doctors in the media, going so far as to publish home addresses and clinic locations...and then shamelessly retreating when a doctor is injured or killed in a subsequent attack.

Why is is it that privacy is suddenly not a right when it's other people doing "immoral" behavior but okay when you're doing said behavior? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Apr 04, 2011, 03:20pm

04-04-11  03:20pm - 4918 days #18
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Originally Posted by Denner:


It's a very relevant thread messmer has put up here - and I think we all should follow this closely - and also think about another possibility: if this motherf..... should get the notion to look at ordinary guys like us and - like anyonebutme asks:
"Ever wonder what the pricetag is on a ccbill data dump?"
Agree with messmer: a scary thought...(too!)


Don't you mean what's the cost to guys like us (as well as the few gals who've bravely stayed on as members)? I'm sure a lot of us have decent non-prude job security but others probably aren't so lucky, and I guess none of us are running for public office anytime soon. (Though will we one day see a presidential candidate who does a Clintonesque excuse for a past porn habit, something like "I did view the sites in question, but I never downloaded." ?)

Granted, you could always just claim identity theft, credit card fraud, etc., but that probably won't work if the records go back for years and seem to be fairly consistent. It all kind of sucks how the Internet has give rise to a sense of false privacy, where you only think you're anonymous and unknown but somewhere it's all being recorded and backed up...for eternity.

Or maybe in the next few years whenever you apply for a job or loan it'll just be assumed that we all have some sort of minimum level of porn usage and/or buying history plus some "acting" experience! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

04-04-11  07:00pm - 4918 days #19
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Anybody been able to browse that site?
It's pretty damn slow - but when I finally got to the stars and the "info" about them, it seems just sick/stupid.
How about this:
At most female models (I've checked) it's stated the same nonsense (I won't put names here):

"...(Real name)..turned into a WHORE and went by the name ..(...)doing porn degrading the whole family name being a pornographic WHORE and HOOKER. Find out more about this persons pornjob...ect."

And this line of helpless words is repeated over and over again for most female models.

This got to be made from a sick mind filled with hate and probably a certified psychopath.


Kind of reminds me of the original "Luke is Back" site - that site was all built on rumors and grudges and boring e-mails being quoted and cross-referenced ad-nauseum. How anybody ever had the patience to find anything to be offended by on that site was the mystery to me, it was so fucking boring.

Now, it's more establishment, but still fucking boring.

04-12-11  01:42pm - 4910 days #20
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Ok, I'll go out on the limb and act as devil's advocate.

Lets say they do have a ccbill data dump? Your fear of that says something about your image of the business and your participation in it. I know we hide behind screen names ourselves to hide our identity just like the porn stars do, but if you're going play then you have to ready to face the music of being revealed.

If you fear that, maybe you should not play in the mud.

I'm making no moral judgment here, just saying. While I don't think my family would be proud of it, it IS who I am. We are all going to die someday and then it won't make a dam difference.

The thing I was most disgusted with the aforementioned website is the venom with which this pecker head spews out his social commentary. It's possible his Viagra popped for a 10 hour ride and his blue vein-er is gone for good.

We all do risky things in our lives, we just have to live with the consequences, whores and whoremongers alike (which I include myself in the latter group). If you have trouble with that image, it's time to pack it up and do something else.

Porn Forum indeed. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

04-12-11  06:56pm - 4910 days #21
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jberryl69, as devil's advocate, do you live in the real world?

Do we have a right to privacy?

If you take a shit, and someone catches you with a hidden camera, do they now have the right to post that video on the Internet, for all to see? Or only for paying customers to see?

Medical records and a bunch of other information are supposed to be private. Supposedly, you have some control over who has legal access to that information.

To put it simply, what is confidential and/or private can be exposed. But governments and everyone else tries to keep at least some matters private.

Maybe you think that if you play in the mud people have a right to see that. Or if you shit or piss, since that is part of life, we all have the right to see that as well.

I don't agree. In theory, at least, we have a right to privacy.

04-12-11  09:50pm - 4910 days #22
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


jberryl69, as devil's advocate, do you live in the real world?

Do we have a right to privacy?

If you take a shit, and someone catches you with a hidden camera, do they now have the right to post that video on the Internet, for all to see? Or only for paying customers to see?

Medical records and a bunch of other information are supposed to be private. Supposedly, you have some control over who has legal access to that information.

To put it simply, what is confidential and/or private can be exposed. But governments and everyone else tries to keep at least some matters private.

Maybe you think that if you play in the mud people have a right to see that. Or if you shit or piss, since that is part of life, we all have the right to see that as well.

I don't agree. In theory, at least, we have a right to privacy.


Really - the world I live in is the world I accept being that my right to privacy can be and likely will be intruded upon, like last night when some SOB called me on the phone to take a survey - I'd been chosen. and while I mentioned to them to fuck off, it still happened. So, with all due respect, you live your theory life but don't be surprised if shit happens. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

04-13-11  01:08am - 4909 days #23
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For those who have checked out the site you might want to check the site out again they have just added a lot of new interesting information especially on their homepage they just posted it on April 12,2011 they talk about Sharon Mitchell, Movie Parodies, Legality, Sweden and a lot on 2257 it is almost the whole page. Edited on Apr 13, 2011, 01:17am

04-13-11  09:07am - 4909 days #24
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If there are many webmasters here who agree that this is disgusting - they could help. If there will be a few dozens of similar sites, claiming REAL names but filled with COMPLETE GARBAGE (with public/invented names and addresses of government offices to avoid hurting anybody) - it should limit the damage greatly (if on 2 out of 3 such sites you'll see that it was Margaret Thatcher who performed in AssLickers 2, credibility of such sites will go down greatly, and so will damage). Motto: "All niches except for boring one!"

07-28-11  12:32pm - 4803 days #25
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x Edited on Apr 19, 2023, 03:14pm

07-28-11  01:06pm - 4803 days #26
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


In case anyone is interested, the porn wikileaks website got taken down. Apparently the guy who ran the site was getting a bunch of his info from private medical files he had no authority to access.

Here's an article with more information on the topic: http://business.avn.com/articles/video/PornWikileaks-is-Down-and-Looks-Like-It-s-Not-Coming-Back-442353.html


Thank you, Wittyguy. A fitting and welcome end to this thread! Hooray for the good guys!

07-28-11  01:14pm - 4803 days #27
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Just read this for the first time, asshole's an asshole.

I can see how hard that might be for the families and so but what I seriously don't get is that how can anyone think they can get into porn and get away with it? All of sudden you start taking trips to California, Budapest or whatever your local porn valley is and all the teenage guys with network connection start staring at you in traffic lights. Porn is so wide spread that if you get into it, you'll be there forver.

07-28-11  02:08pm - 4803 days #28
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Originally Posted by RustyJ:


Just read this for the first time, asshole's an asshole.

I can see how hard that might be for the families and so but what I seriously don't get is that how can anyone think they can get into porn and get away with it? All of sudden you start taking trips to California, Budapest or whatever your local porn valley is and all the teenage guys with network connection start staring at you in traffic lights. Porn is so wide spread that if you get into it, you'll be there forver.


Granted, there's a certain risk of being recognized but isn't it also likely that if you saw Amber Rayne or Jenna Haze, without all that porn make-up shopping at your local supermarket you'd probably think .. boy, this girl sure reminds me of someone, rather than hey, that's Jenna or Amber!

07-28-11  06:52pm - 4803 days #29
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^In case you don't follow other forums then a guy called Mike south had a lot to do with porn wikileaks getting shutdown. Many people were hurt when personal information was released to the general public.

As for why anyone could think they could get away with doing porn. The answer may simply be that they don't think that far ahead. Just look at how many naked pictures of young celebrities have surfaced in the last couple of years? These are girls that have an image to proctect and yet here they are naked for all to see. If these young women with handlers and managers can't think far ahead than what makes you think that normal girls will have better judgement. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-08-11  03:00am - 4792 days #30
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These guys should be convicted. I have high tolerance for stuff like these but he just went overboard. An inventor is simply a fellow who doesn’t take his education too seriously.
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08-08-11  06:36am - 4792 days #31
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^There is very little than can legally be done against these people. Revealing personal information about porn performers and let's not forget normal people is immoral but not illegal. If someone got tested at AIM then there is a high chance their personal information was posted. Long live the Brown Coats.

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