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| 09-13-15 07:49am - 3294 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
CFNM A Brief Introduction CFNM is an acronym meaning Clothed Female Naked Male. This is a minor porn niche and there are not very many websites with this type of theme. The appeal is to a very diverse type of porn viewer. It is mentioned in recommendations of porn for women, on gay review websites and appeals to straight males as well. Some things that are common on all CFNM videos is that the females are the initiators of sex and that the men are treated as sex objects. Nothing misogynistic here and the women are very much into the sex. Another standard feature is that the videos have a plot or a premise that makes it work. These are 180 degrees different from your standard gonzo. There are basically two types of videos. One kind is on US websites and appeals to straight men. The women are very nicely and elegantly dressed, with nice makeup, jewelry etc. The sites show women and often groups of women, who are the initiators of the sex, often hand jobs and/or blowjobs. Sometimes there is even vaginal sex, but that is uncommon. Female nudity is not featured, but you may see breasts or panties pulled aside vaginas. The focus is on male models as sex objects. An example is that a group of four very attractive women pass a construction site. One of the men gives them a wolf whistle. They respond by stripping him and then taking turns giving him a blow job. They are very enthusiastic and even vie for their chance. This is pure fantasy and it works for me. One site I rather liked was CFNMSecret from Reality Kings. Every scene has oral and vaginal and most videos are in 1080P. Another good one is CFNMSpot from Bang Brothers. It is still very small but has worthwhile videos. One I never joined is by Team Skeet and is called CFNMteens. An example of a different style would be DancingBear. It has a large number of women in a room celebrating a bachelorette party, graduation etc. Their newer videos come in at 720P and are very sharp, as are their older ones at 852x480. An interesting twist is that in each scene there are several male strippers, white, black and latino and the women are too. There are even a few Asian women as well. Each stripper goes around the room getting bjs from the women until one of them makes him cum. Occasionally there is a little nudity and even vaginal. Not all the women give bjs and I think that the ones who do are paid. There is a lot cheering and noise making by those who are at the party. A variation is on UK based websites, such as Purecfnm. The women here are outstanding and the sex is hand jobs and blow jobs. There is a great deal of story and acting and the performers have non sexual interactions as a result. Some of the females are UK porn stars and some are user submitted or genuine amateurs. This can get very hot as often in a group you will find women who do not perform any sex, but seem to greatly enjoy being on the set. It seems very real, not staged. The other type that appeals to gay men are femdom with humiliation. I am not into that at all, but our fellow Puer gaypornolover is and his favorite site is heylittledick. There are quite a few of these sites and they are primarily UK based. If this interests you, look up his name and the sites he has reviewed. I realize that this is not for everybody as there is little or no female nudity, but it can be a refreshing alternative to standard gonzo. It is interesting to see women empowered to be sexual. I for one would love the idea of being seen as a sex object. Edited on Sep 13, 2015, 08:00am | |
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| 09-13-15 03:32pm - 3294 days | #2 | |
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gaypornolover (0)
Active User Posts: 153 Registered: Jul 09, '11 Location: Birmingham, UK |
Hey there! Excellent review of the genre and it's nice to see my reviews, which do crossover a little into straight porn that way, get read by straight users. I have noticed a difference in American and British CFNM. The British CFNM stuff is generally more focused on femdom and humiliation, the American stuff tends to have the women more interested in pleasuring the guy. It's an interesting niche, and I am planning do get back into reviewing it with a review on CFNMTV soon. Thanks for the shout out and excellent post, mbaya!  | |
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| 09-13-15 04:00pm - 3294 days | #3 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
Its great to hear from you. It always seemed to me that your presence here was appreciated within the PU community. Maybe your being here will encourage more participation by gay members! Is there anything further you would like to add about how you see CFNM? The floor is yours. Edited on Sep 13, 2015, 04:15pm | |
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| 09-15-15 06:50am - 3292 days | #4 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User  Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
I must say I've always enjoyed the CFNM niche. It's very erotic (in my opinion) to see a naked man being ravished by a woman. The female form is beautiful, of course, but there's beauty in the male form too, and obviously a lot of straight porn glazes over that. It's pretty exciting to think about making a man's naked body your playground. | |
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| 09-15-15 07:02am - 3292 days | #5 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
Are there any sites that you would recommend? | |
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| 09-17-15 06:41pm - 3290 days | #6 | |
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WeeWillyWinky (0)
Active User  Posts: 243 Registered: Jun 03, '07 Location: Havasu City, AZ USA |
This genre is probably the one that pushes my hot buttons more than anything else, I guess because I can put myself into the position of the male, and the idea of several women discussing my willy and making me ejaculate for their personal pleasure is extremely exciting. How can it NOT be? Personally, while I proudly call myself a feminist and despise any degradation of women, I wouldn't mind being treated as a sex object by a group of attractive women, or by one woman. In fact, I'd LOVE it! Bring it on! That being said, if I were Mr. Handsome, and if I were in a situation where I were being objectified and degraded by one woman or a group of women, for REAL, and especially over a certain length of time, I imagine I would begin to hate it and despise the woman or women that were doing that to me. Bottom line: it's a great fantasy, but I have found so little of the videos I've seen to really work for me. The women seem fake, their words scripted, and the worst part, these guys are jaded, most likely far too accustomed to being objectified and pleasured in such a way, and this causes them to appear utterly bored. Here's an idea for a videographer or site owner: Select men who HAVE NOT undergone this kind of treatment, and get the female participants to be as honest and less "fake" or "scripted" as possible. This would make for dynamite content, for the most part. If I weren't a hermit, not to mention a struggling Christian, I would happily volunteer myself for such an experiment! LOL! But if this were to actually occur, I would decline. Besides that, I haven't been with a woman in ten years, so the scene featuring me and my poor neglected willy would be a very short scene indeed.  You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! | |
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| 09-17-15 06:48pm - 3290 days | #7 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
WWW, The best I think is Purecfnm as far as being least fake. If that is not adequate for you I have no better ideas. | |
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| 09-17-15 08:38pm - 3290 days | #8 | |
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WeeWillyWinky (0)
Active User Posts: 243 Registered: Jun 03, '07 Location: Havasu City, AZ USA |
Thanks, mbaya, any and all help in this is good. You could possibly have cut my search (and usually destroy) efforts down to a bare minimum. You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! | |
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| 09-17-15 08:42pm - 3290 days | #9 | |
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WeeWillyWinky (0)
Active User Posts: 243 Registered: Jun 03, '07 Location: Havasu City, AZ USA |
Hey gpl: Question here: I can't help but wonder how CFNM could be very titillating to a gay man, since there are women doing the naughty stuff to the "poor unfortunate victim." (LOL!) I would think that having a bunch of women around would detract from the experience for you, rather than add to it, just as it would seriously damage (in fact eradicate completely) my interest and enjoyment by seeing a bunch of clothed men doing naughty stuff to another man. ?? You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! | |
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| 09-22-15 04:39am - 3285 days | #10 | |
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Divinx (0)
Active User Posts: 45 Registered: Dec 29, '07 |
Many a CFNM site believes the genre is just meant for blowjobs and handjobs, some even believe it must always be POV. I love CFNM, bu for me it has to be just porn with clothed females. Why? Because women can look so pretty and sexy in the proper dress. Unfortunately, sites either just go for the cumshot, or have the women clothed in a queer way. A network with lots of CFNM content, because almost all of it is CFNM, but with variants, according to site, is Tainster. And it makes CFNM porn the way I like it; except I do not like very much their kind of clothing... I mean, women I see on the streets do not wear like that. Anyway, take a look at any of their sites (PartyHardcore, DrunkSexOrgy, etc.) and you'll see what I mean. They even have a site called FullyClothedSex (and another, FullyClothedPissing, which has the same action as the former, but with a pissing finale). For me, the clothing and colour adds to eroticism, and await in the hope to see more sites that offer it -some day... | |
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| 09-25-15 10:15pm - 3282 days | #11 | |
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WeeWillyWinky (0)
Active User Posts: 243 Registered: Jun 03, '07 Location: Havasu City, AZ USA |
Had a wee look at the site(s) you mentioned, but alas, none of it looks like I'd be interested or turned on by that content. It looks like Sodom and Gomorrah to me. ? That's not what I associate with clothed female, nude male porn. To me, true CFNM would have to incorporate certain essential elements: Clothed females! As in, the clothes stay on. Downblouse and upskirts would enhance the viewer's pleasure, but it shouldn't be the focus, or get out of hand. Nude males: they could be undressed slowly, or whatever, but should wind up either nude or half-naked. Women should be in charge, with no waffling or deviation from that. ie: No uppity men getting their testosterone in an uproar. Subservience and subjugation to the will and wishes of the female(s) should be adhered to religiously. There should be ejaculation. The classic elements of drama need to be followed, and no drama is complete without a climax. If the male orgasm is to be 'ruined', or non-existent, this should be explained in the text accompanying the video, so potential consumers will know what they are buying. **Note: CFNM doesn't, or shouldn't, have to be based on degradation of the male. Women could be in charge, as in have complete say in what happens during the scene, but the female(s) could express affection, adulation, even awe and amazement, which would require some suspension of disbelief, but could work very well. As long as the content isn't strongly steered into the unsavory and immoral, ie: making the females look like underage girls. That to me is a mistake, and can't possibly be a net positive in the long run, no matter how patently it's explained that the performers are of legal age and that the scenario is strictly in the realm of fantasy. On Literotica, and other fiction sites, an author CANNOT write about underaged participants. It is illegal, even to write fiction - meaning fiction that has the express intent of being for the purpose of titillation, NOT literary fiction, as in serious novels - which includes underaged characters engaging in sex, consensual or not. This is as it should be, IMHO. Short version: Nabokov can write Lolita and get away with it, because it's a work of serious fiction, and especially because it has a moral underpinning: the main character gets his come uppance. But, if one goes to Literotica and tries to post a story, intended as erotica, about an underage female with an adult male - it won't get posted, because, as far as I know, it's illegal in most countries to do so - and for good reason. You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! Edited on Sep 25, 2015, 10:32pm | |
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| 11-28-17 08:35am - 2487 days | #12 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I am reviving this old thread as I mentioned it in my reply to Jook. In recent years CFNM has had a dropoff in the number of sites. | |
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| 11-28-17 09:01am - 2487 days | #13 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
WOULDN'T THE CAUSE BE THE DOWNTURN IN THE ECONOMY WHICH ALSO AFFECTED THE PORN INDUSTRY? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT A LARGE NUMBER OF PORN SITES WENT UNDER SINCE 2008. MAYBE THE TUBE SITES CONTRIBUTED TO THE EFFECT, BUT I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN THAT LED TO A LOT OF PORN SITES SHUTTING DOWN. INTERNET PORN IS STILL A BILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS, I ASSUME. I'M SURPRISED YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF INVESTIGATIVE NEWS ARTICLES ON THE INDUSTRY. NOT PAINTING THE INDUSTRY AS EVIL, BUT JUST THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THE INDUSTRY, OR A HISTORY OF INTERNET PORN. | |
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| 01-16-18 08:20am - 2438 days | #14 | |
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Otrivine (0)
Active User Posts: 54 Registered: Aug 28, '16 |
Congrats with your brief introduction and personal contribution regarding CFNM mabaya. Keep up the good work please. Being active in the BDSM scene the CFNM niche is one of my favorite BDSM niches. Unfortunately, like mbaya stated correctly, the number of CFNM sites in general has dropped greatly over the years. For instance Brazzers discontinued their CFNM site within their network of sites after publishing only 13 galleries. I also noticed that many other great CFNM websites closed their doors in the meanwhile. Maybe this particular niche wasn't so popular as many websites thought it would be? Like Ik2fireone stated the international economical crisis could be one of the reasons. Maybe Tube sites contributed to the effect although there are many Tube sites which operate within the legal boundaries of the different webmaster programs to signed up to. The fierce competition between the bigger and smaller websites could be another reason. Operating a porn website requires a huge investment and it does give you any guarantee that the site will be popular. Let's not forget that the many ages of illegal uploading, distribution and downloading of copyrighted materials, which is unfortunately still ongoing, financially damaged many industries. | |
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| 07-01-19 02:04pm - 1907 days | #15 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I am reviving an old thread. Please feel free to comment. | |
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| 07-02-19 08:58am - 1906 days | #16 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
I've never read this before! Thank you for reviving  This was an excellent read! | |
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| 07-02-19 10:54am - 1906 days | #17 | |
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merc77 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 291 Registered: Apr 17, '16 |
Many moons ago it was common practice at many YMCAs, Community Centers and High School/Jr High School pools for boys and young men to swim completely naked. Many had nude swimming mandatory although some had it optional. Most of the young men optioned to swim in the nude. It also was not uncommon for the YMCAs and Community Center Pools to host family days of which everyone was invited to see young Johnny swim in the altogether. Aunts, mothers, grandmothers, sisters, cousins and the such could come and see the boys in all their glory. Such days have passed as we now frown upon such things. It is surprising they didn't have hang-ups about nudity as we do in today's society. There are many old articles about such events out there to check out. There are photos, but many are faked (which is quite common in the days of the interweb). Some are real and it is fun to try and figure out which is which. Just an addition to a formula/niche in porn that is not so new when one digs into the history of it. (I myself like the non sexual CFNM sites but they are hard to find these days.) "Dogs think people are Gods. Cats don't as they know better." - Kedi (2016) Dogs have masters; Cats have staff. | |
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| 07-02-19 08:26pm - 1906 days | #18 | |
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KayTBuffs (0)
Active User Posts: 4 Registered: May 27, '19 Location: Illinois |
The first site I joined with CFNM in the description was Party Hardcore. I have a membership to its network currently (Tainster). They have tried to make it more interesting by adding up to 4 different static cameras. You can download each of the different views. Those are the ones I could see really happening. I have not been a member of Dancing Bear, but I do think it is similar to Party Hardcore based on reviews. The audience for the male orgasm is there. We can even see it in hardcore scenes. Some of the female models are excited for the cumshot, some rub their bodies and others open their mouths. Not to mention any names, but a friend of mine is a female from the Philippines. She had never experienced what we call a "cumshot" saying Filipino men "cum in condoms". I could be wrong, but it is one of the only specific parts of a porn scene with hundreds of compilations on it. I like the empowered female ones. I would not be against the female being in an empowered role only to see the man seduce her into more of a submissive role. It seems like porn would know this. It worked for 40 years with the male being empowered. As much as men say they get bored of porn scenes being the same it should be worth a risk to someone to make a site that breaks that mold. I don't like the degradation scenes to either the male or female. The situations are very different too. The degrading male to a female is usually deep into the sex, the female is physically held by the much stronger male. She is the unaccepting submissive whose only choice is to give him what he wants. The degrading female to a male is usually like in the CFNM sites. The woman is sitting near the man, fully dressed and he is doing something to try and please her. Making him the willing submissive. In the degrading man scenario if he calls the woman an "ugly bitch" it would be exactly how he was treating her with the physical dominance. In the degrading woman scenario if she says, "Look at your little dick, you should be ashamed of that." It would not be like the situation was playing out. She's sitting and watching him play with it. She's not getting up and leaving out of disgust. It makes her insult look too much like the proof of her not liking him. The truly faithless one is the one who makes love to only a fraction of you. - Anais Nin | |
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| 07-03-19 03:38am - 1905 days | #19 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
It's not my intention to derail this thread but I just wanted to weigh in and say that a favourite niche of mine is one sort of like this but seems to be so rare it isn't even considered a niche. I like clothed male, nude female scenes. Even searching for CMNF comes up dry. Amateur Allure does this quite often but they don't even recognize it as a niche and tout it there. It just happens. Finding scenes where this occurs is just blind luck since it isn't tagged or listed. Like I said, it just happens sometimes. Okay, now let's get back on topic... | |
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| 07-03-19 04:05am - 1905 days | #20 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I have been a member of both sites, Party Hardcore and Dancing Bear. The content is very similar but DB is far superior. Unfortunately it also is no longer updating. To add insult to injury, it is not part of its network Bang Brothers, but only as a standalone site. I don't recommend a premium price of $30 for an archive site. Much of its content is not HD. i don't remember names, but I once saw a German site that was similar. It was a very long time ago and may not even exist or have HD quality. | |
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| 07-03-19 03:06pm - 1905 days | #21 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I think a medical fetish site would be of interest. Unfortunately, I have no suggestions as to which ones. | |
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| 07-03-19 05:26pm - 1905 days | #22 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
You're right. While I haven't found any specific sites that cater to the medical niche I usually check out scenes on any sites I join that seem to have a doctor/patient thing going on because those can often be CMNF. Photographer/model scenarios often have some too. | |
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| 07-03-19 05:44pm - 1905 days | #23 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
Special Examination is one. I reviewed it way back when. I have no idea how much of it is in HD by now. Gyno X is another. | |
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